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Post by gailp » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:48 pm

Hi

Sorry I havent been around much recently, I do always check to see how you are all doing though.

Kate sorry your first day at school wasn't great, especially with the news someone is expecting twins, life just isn't fair is it. Hope you don't have to go down the D & C route, sending big hugs to you. I bet you have a great time in Dubai, it will do you the world of good to get away.

Julie how are you feeling? Still enjoying the Ben and Jerry's!! I loved chocolate :lol:

Nicki sending big hugs your way, I am so sorry the way things have worked out for you at the moment. Have a rest from it enjoy time with DH, recharge your batteries and then see how you feel.

Jen I can't believe how fast your IVF seems to be going, I am sure its dragging for you but we are in September already so time will hopefully fly by until October. It's terrible that we start wishing our lives away! With frosties would you get to use them at a later date for your 2nd child :D Hope you are still enjoying your bed :wink:

Lisa how are you enjoying lounging around in your PJ's, I use to go back to bed in the afternoon for a sleep, it was heaven :D I use to have long soaks in the bath, with the cat sitting on the toilet watching. Now I have to have a quick shower and if I do have a bath Katie joins me which is fantastic but not relaxing as she loves splashing and she is as slippery as an eel! Hows the nursery? We have Millie and Boris in Katies and pale pink walls. I went completely off sex when I was pregnant and on the odd occassion I fancied it DH just didn't want to, dont worry that all passes and sorry if TMI :oops:

Good luck today Judy.

Katie is doing really well and sleeping in her own room which seems really strange, me and DH kept putting it off but finally plucked up the courage to move her, she loves it as she can roll onto her front and move sideways as her cot is much bigger than her crib.

Swimming is going really well and she starts swimming lessons this weekend. She is on solids 2 meals a day which is lovely, messy and fun :lol:

Better go and give my little miracle her bath :D
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Post by judyy » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:13 am

Thank you all for your well wishes. Unfortunately we didn't get the good news today :cry: :cry: And they didn't call until after 5 (I'm in Arizona, Pacific Time in the summer). So needless to say, I'm more than depressed. I have told myself many times to stay strong regardless of the outcome, yet when my sister called to ask the result, I broke down and cried.. DH whos' usually so positive in this is all just sitting quietly there. We have an appt with the doc on Thurs., see what's next.

Judy

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Post by Kate21 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:04 am

Judy,

Sorry to hear your news. Am sending you and DH hugs. Take time out to grieve, tears are good, then you can come back stronger for the next time.

Kate :D
Me 35 DH 44 unexplained infertility
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3# FET all BFN 4# BFP - no heartbeat @7wks - about to start the journey again!!

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Post by jen babes » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:20 am

Hi all

Judy (((HUGS))) to ya sweetie..sorry to hhear your news...as Kate said it's good to cry and let the feelings out. Be kind to yourself and do something special ( like Nicki go on holiday) It's a tough time. x much love x x

Nicki- how are you doing hun? You do sound more positive but i can tell your heart is still breaking...It's been a long an tough road for you..you are so strong...what doesn't break you , makes you!!! Your time will come and you will have a baby in your arms...Mystic Meg is never wrong! x x

Kate- What a nightmare your work sounds, and so difficult that a twin preg is totally in your face. sometimes i think the Gods just through all the shit of the day at us to see how we will respond. You girl are made of stern stuff and will wing it through. Hurts tho, and it will take time to heal. For me even to the expected birth date. Everyone is differant and as Gail said i do hope that everyting ends natuarlly and you don't need to go for a D&C. With your busy wok life i do hope you and Dh have some quality time out at Dubai. I have friend sthere but have never ventured It will be some great time away for you and DH. much love x x

Gail- Great to hear your news about your wonderrful life with Katie. Soon you and Lisa will be having long baby chats on here. That will be wonderful to hear you both comparing notes. Katie is a wee cracker tho and i love hearing about all her adventures in her new room. Must be hard moving her. you probably kept checking on her every 5 mins :wink: much love x x

Lisa- Hun time is marching on....2nd oct is nearing...Do you have any appojntments soon t check the baby is engaged??? How are you feeling about the birth? Excited with trepidation? whats the hospital like you are due to go into? Many questions i know :roll: Hope DH has finished all the Dad painting stuff and the 2 of you can spend some time together this weekend. x x x

Lucy- hope your enjoying your hols 8) 8)

julie- I am loving your full of Spirit posts hun. I am so happy for you and that you are loving your 2nd tri. although 3rd tri is soon...Is lazy boy doing any flips yet??? Whats your nursery like? As for ben and Jerry's i am a european at heart and Hagan Daz is my fav...mnnn a tub doesn't last long in this house. x x x

As for me ...i finish my antibiotics today..hurrah!!! I have been suffering from mega headaches which i have put down to the BC ppills but i do think the anti-b's aren't helping either. have been drinking tons of water but am struggiling and last night was in bed at 8pm with mega heaadache. I had a terrible time with down reg on 1st ivf mega headaches and thats why i went to short protocol as no down reg. Hate all this feeling ill stuff. Hopefully by week 3 end next week i will be getting some patches on and stopping the bc pills. that is the soonest time so fingers crossed for me girls that it's soonerr ratheer then later to start E2 patches .The pma stuff is still a stuggle ( arn't most things with a banging headache) but your words of encouragement and hope are helping. Thanks to you all for that. **cry** don't know what i would do without you pheonixes you all keep me going x x x x

Dh and i are going to Fort William this weekend...it's the mountain bike downhill championships...to tell you the truth i jsut want to sit down and curl up into a ball this weekend. :cry: ..but then i can do that in the motor home :D and read a book while DH does the boys stuff!!!! :wink: My home from home ( anad it has a memory foam mattress so very comfortable Jules)

Love to ya all
jen
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3 IVF's 2005/6 all BFNs
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Post by Julie2039 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:13 pm

Hi Girls

mega quick one...personals later

Scan was fab! Saw everything but resisted finding out the sex. Midwife said everything is perfect and he/she is very active. Flipping all over the place. Dont feel much often tho. I said my tum is so big don't think it can touch the sides yet!!

Was Brill x
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DH TESA 07/05 - BFP!!!
ICSI - Canc 01/07
FET 04/07 - BFP!!!
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Post by jen babes » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:17 pm

Julie
thats such good news on the scan...Lazy boy aint that Lazy after all...in 3 wks time he'll be all elbows and feet kicking you and get his own back...
Happy for ya hun :D :D good news is needed on this thread :D :D

love jen
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[b]2 natural preg,both ectopics.
3 IVF's 2005/6 all BFNs
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5th FET-Feb08 BFN
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Post by nicolamark » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:45 pm

Judy, sorry to hear about your BFN... (((((hugs ))))))
It sucks huh??
We'll cry together ok honey xxx I am still crying from the w-end, i didnt know i had enough tears but they keep coming from somewhere


Kate
How are you feeling now? Hope schools been ok and your enjoying your new job! (((((Hugs))))) to u too.


Jen
You need some PMA, and chill out time, dont stress about this tmt, you can do it and honey your'll be in the pregnancy group soon.... no fear, remember your odds ( they are high!!!) You prob hav headaches coz youre worrying, so why dont you go have some massage or something!!! (((((Hugs )))))) also you!!!!

Julie Wahoooo!!!!!!! you sound like your on top of the world..... Fantastic, to hear all was ok. and good on you for holding back on finding out the sex

Big hello to everyone else not mentioned above......

Me, just plodding on, still crying and worried about never having kids..... scared to try IVF after the OHSS and unsure about adopting, and just totally worried, about losing mark..... theres no issue with us but i am worried it'll tear us appart.......
Im off now xxx
IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
FET negative 2011
ADOPTED DAUGHTER 2014

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Post by nicolamark » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:24 pm

PREGNANT PHEONIXES ImageImage

Lisa – 36wks Image. had 4D scan and it's a GIRL!!! :D
Julie - 21wks Image
Kate - 7wks Image


PHEONIXES WAITING FOR TREATMENT
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Jen – Egg Donor in SPAIN - starts meds August/October ET
Lucy - fresh ivf Oct/Nov
Nicki- Taking time out from ttc, tmt etc.....
Souris- has left the boards but having an adoption review in Nov.
Judy - ??


ImagePHEONIXES GIVEN BIRTH Image

MLG - c/s baby girl - Margarida - Born 6th Dec 06
GAIL - c/s baby girl - Katie Hope - Born 29th March 07



SEPTEMBER Image

10th- Lucy back from hols in Turkey
10th- broc 1 year old :D
11th- Lucy ivf consultant review
22nd - Julie hols in sunny Wales
22nd - NICKI- Hols in sunny scotland
25th - Lisa'a dh's birthday!
?? - Jen- expected start eostrogen patches 2nd stage in tmt ????x x




OCTOBER Image

2nd-- Lisa's baby girl DUE!!!!
2nd -- Nicki's birthday
20th - - Lisa's birthday
???-jen's ET (16th at a guess)
31st – HALLOWEEN!!!

NOVEMBER
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DECEMBER Image
6 - Baby MARGARIDA (MLG's daughter) is 1 YEAR OLD today
8 - NICKI-weekend in Newcastle
14 - JULIE - Finishes work!!!!!
24 - Xmas Eve
25 - Santa Claus has been - Its Christmas!!
26 – Boxing day

JANUARY Image

Happy new year!!

10 - Julies baby due....Girl or Boy we will know NOW!!!! so exciting!!
FEBRUARY Image

MARCH Image

14th JULIE n JUSTIN - 12th Wedd Anniv.
24th MARK 'n' NICKI - 7th Wedding Anniv.

APRIL Image
Easter--- lots of choccie eggs!!
IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
FET negative 2011
ADOPTED DAUGHTER 2014

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Post by judyy » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:06 am

Hi all,

Thank you for the wonderful support, I feel much better now. What doesn't break you certainly makes you stronger. Hopefully after tomorrow's follow up appt, we'll figure out next step. For now, we'll try to relax and chill. With my mom and in-laws coming to visit next couple of weeks, it'll at least keep my mind off this.

Kate, saw what you went through, it must have been very hard too. Please hang in there, it is an uphill battle, but we phoenixes will win in the end! Dubai sounds like fun, please share your vacation stories when you come back.

Nicki, Hope you are feeling a little better. It sucks so much to hear the BFN. Why can't they spend some more time and get some real research into this to perfect this process? With the pain that comes with infertility, it really should qualify as a top priority in research funding. I hope they can have some breakthrough in this soon.

Jen, did you just start your treatment? I'm not sure what the E2 patches are.. Have fun in Fort Williams, in the motor home, reading your book :)

Julie, it must be great to see your little bean in the ultrasound! When are you due?

p.s. I'm going to check out the book 'Invitro fertlity goddess'. Someone in this forum mentioned it, supposely real funnly. I can take some cheering up now :)

Judy

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Post by judyy » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:07 am

Hi all,

Thank you for the wonderful support, I feel much better now. What doesn't break you certainly makes you stronger. Hopefully after tomorrow's follow up appt, we'll figure out next step. For now, we'll try to relax and chill. With my mom and in-laws coming to visit next couple of weeks, it'll at least keep my mind off this.

Kate, saw what you went through, it must have been very hard too. Please hang in there, it is an uphill battle, but we phoenixes will win in the end! Dubai sounds like fun, please share your vacation stories when you come back.

Nicki, Hope you are feeling a little better. It sucks so much to hear the BFN. Why can't they spend some more time and get some real research into this to perfect this process? With the pain that comes with infertility, it really should qualify as a top priority in research funding. I hope they can have some breakthrough in this soon.

Jen, did you just start your treatment? I'm not sure what the E2 patches are.. Have fun in Fort Williams, in the motor home, reading your book :)

Julie, it must be great to see your little bean in the ultrasound! When are you due?

p.s. I'm going to check out the book 'Invitro fertlity goddess'. Someone in this forum mentioned it, supposely real funnly. I can take some cheering up now :)

Judy

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Post by judyy » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:07 am

Hi all,

Thank you for the wonderful support, I feel much better now. What doesn't break you certainly makes you stronger. Hopefully after tomorrow's follow up appt, we'll figure out next step. For now, we'll try to relax and chill. With my mom and in-laws coming to visit next couple of weeks, it'll at least keep my mind off this.

Kate, saw what you went through, it must have been very hard too. Please hang in there, it is an uphill battle, but we phoenixes will win in the end! Dubai sounds like fun, please share your vacation stories when you come back.

Nicki, Hope you are feeling a little better. It sucks so much to hear the BFN. Why can't they spend some more time and get some real research into this to perfect this process? With the pain that comes with infertility, it really should qualify as a top priority in research funding. I hope they can have some breakthrough in this soon.

Jen, did you just start your treatment? I'm not sure what the E2 patches are.. Have fun in Fort Williams, in the motor home, reading your book :)

Julie, it must be great to see your little bean in the ultrasound! When are you due?

p.s. I'm going to check out the book 'Invitro fertlity goddess'. Someone in this forum mentioned it, supposely real funnly. I can take some cheering up now :)

Judy

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Post by Lis » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:39 am

Hi all OMG I've only been off for 3 days and so many posts to read!

Firstly Judy - WELCOME to our gang. :D Yes we are a lovely bunch, loads and loads of support on here. I am so sorry you didn't get the news you were hoping for. It sucks doesn't it? How is dh taking it now? I think blokes tend to internalise their feelings a lot. They are hurting just as much but just don't like to show it. ((((( HUGS ))))) your way xxxx

Nicki - as per texts, msn chats etc, I am thinking of you as always. Words don't describe just how disappointed & frustrated I feel for you doll. I think this break to Banff is just what you need. Long walks, country pubs, quality time with dh. You and dh will get through this as you are both strong. You just need time to get your heads together. You know where I am for more msn chats etc. Lots of love xxxxx

Kate - I am praying that af comes for you hun and you don't need to go to hosp. And so sorry to hear about you having to go thro the heartache of finding out about someone else's twin pg. Like Jen says, sometimes you wonder what the gods are playing at. I am also a firm believer of what won't break you makes you stronger. And you are one tough cokkie in the making :wink: Dubaii sounds just the ticket. Lots of love to you too xxxxx

Jen - sorry to hear about headaches :oops: but like always you sound as if you are taking it all in your stride. I'm really really excited for you that you are so near now to your dream and that precious bundle of joy :D So you'll be going back to IM in about 4 weeks for ET?? Is that about right? And next step is E2 patches? Make sure you take it easy this weekend in the motorhome whilst Adam does boy stuff! LOL! :lol:

Julie - fantastic to hear all went well with the scan. And well done for resisting finding out the sex. So lazy boy isn't so lazy after all!! Bet soon you'll wish he was lazy once you start getting knee'd, elbow'd and generally booted!! Glad you are handling the sister stuff well. Have you bought any more things yet or made any more plans for baby?

Gail - thanks for the info re jiggy jiggy :wink: It honestly made me feel a lot better as I was thinking "what if its always like this afterwards too?" so I am glad to hear its just temporary altho don't get me wrong, I know its not exactly going to be the first thing on my mind in the few weeks afterwards :? I can just imagine Katie rolling around in her big cot, thinking she's in seventh heaven :wink:

Lucy - hope you're enjoying your hols

Well, I sometimes think I'm busier now than when I was at work. :roll: I never have been one for lying about much (says me who today is still in her PJ's yet again!! LOL!). There just seems to be so much to do - I think its the nesting instinct and I don't think its really hit me yet that in no more than 5 weeks, dh and I will be parents. Scary! And yes Jen, we can't wait to meet her. The nursery furniture has arrived and the pram is in stock now so have to pick up those. Dh is nearly finished the hall so need to go and order a hall carpet. Need blinds for the living room and trying to catch up with my friends one last time before the sleepless nites start.

Dh and I went to an antenatal class yesterday, all about breastfeeding. I think its put my off! I so want to try but everyone I speak to seems to have major problems initially with baby not latching on properly and the jist is , that you don't get much support in hosp as the midwives are so short staffed. But I am trying to stay relaxed about it and see what happens.

Well I better throw myself (or rather waddle myself) into the shower now. Bump is gigantic (I will try put some photos from my phone onto photo bucket) and belly button is freaking dh out! Have started cooking and freezing portions of food for when the chaos starts so off to Tesco's soon

Love to all xxx
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6th DI Jan '07 ...... finally ..... OMG BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by nicolamark » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:16 pm

Hi peeps!!

I am still wondering how i'll ever cope, i guess the big tears have stoppped, but i am not the happy nicki you all know and love, i really feel like a piece of me is missing......
Yes, Lisa u are right, a holiday will be good, but the thoughts will still be with me, heck i am so fucked up right now, and of course work is doing my head in, which doesnt help and i cant help but think, no way can we adopt as we are settled oursleves yet.
Spoke to my boss 2day told het it didnt work, she was great about it, but really didnt understand, she's 33 and just doesnt want kids...... I wish i was like her sometimes, parhaps that would be easier......
I guess time will improve things but right now, yes i am feeling rather shitty!!!
Sorry for being so down, and dragging this happy thread down......

Jen,
you need so much PMA and i am really routing for ya to get Preg soon, and hope all goes well, at IM..... please dont take any negative from me, as i know you'll do it huney....... xxx

Love 'n' hugs to you all xxxxxx

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IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
FET negative 2011
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Post by jen babes » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:54 pm

Hi all

am still strugging with headaches so will be quick...defo an MS and bc pill related thing as finished antibiotics yesterday and still same pain today. Have booked cranial sacral work for tomorrow which helps with brain swelling an eye pain so hope it clears a bit ans wee ca enjoy weekend away...

nicki you will in time heal and Image again...I know it will take ages for you to get over this hearache but un pease don't give up on the future. Ivf will be better nxt time cos they know what dose tipped you into OHSS, and htey will give you more scans. Also it means that you will get loads of foliies nad eggs and can give to others in need x x x much love and hugs x x

love and many hugs to everyone catch ya all for perrsonals later..

love jen
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3 IVF's 2005/6 all BFNs
4th Nov07- BFP! lost @ 5wks 6d
5th FET-Feb08 BFN
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Post by Kate21 » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:43 am

Morning girls!

Nickie - I totally understand your pain and feelings about believing again, but it does get easier and like Jen said you will believe again. You just need time out to recharge the batteries and then you will come back better and stronger. It will happen, perhaps you can't see it at the moment, but I will keep the faith for you x

Lisa - how is the mummy to be? Has DH finished off all the decorating? Bet the next few weeks will fly by and then the little one will be here as will the sleepness nights!!

Gail - great to hear that you and Katie are doing well and that she is still aiming to be the next Olympic champion!!

Jen - sorry to hear about the headaches, hope you don't have to put up with them for too much longer - hopefully that treatment will help. What do the E2 patches do?

Julie - great news on the scan, well done you on not finding out the sex, that must have been so tempting? Not sure I would have been able to hold off!

Judy - hope you are ok?

Lucy - enjoy your hols!

As for me, school is manic (when isn't it?) but at least its Friday! AF is definitely on her way as I've had some spotting, so hopefully she will arrive sometime over the weekend. That has made me feel alot better as I really didn't want a D & C, so it looks like I may have avoided that!! Have a pretty hectic weekend planned, house warming party tonight and then another big party and BBQ on Saturday - I think Sunday may be spent recovering!! Will hopefully book the flights to Dubai as well over the weekend, so that is something to look forward to.

Lisa and Jen - can you recommend anywhere in Scotland to go? DH and I were talking last night and we fancy going around May half term (end of May) and staying in a cottage somewhere fairly remote (needs to be a pub within walking distance tho!!) but with stuff that we can do - canoeing, rafting etc? We would have a car with us, so driving to places wouldn't be a problem. Thanks

Hope you all have a fab weekend, catch you later

Kate
Me 35 DH 44 unexplained infertility
3# IVF all BFN
3# FET all BFN 4# BFP - no heartbeat @7wks - about to start the journey again!!

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