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Postby bonnie » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:17 am

First of all--thank you Kelly for your wise words--and for the beta chart info! that really helps...so i will find out on March 27 if it's a oney or a twoey, back in the waiting room :roll: this one isnt nearly as hard me thinks.

Hi Carolyn! Welcome. I wanted to share with you that i am using an ED. I will be 46 when my little one(s) come. this is my first round of IVF. My DH and I thought even with that teeney chance that it could work--we didn't really want to waste the time AND to be candid--money. We really decided to put one fresh round and whatever frozen we could and then "go find something else to do!" if it wasn't successful. It's such a personal choice--and if i was younger I may have been more likely to try for the slim chance of using my own eggs. After one miscarriage at 12 weeks and one at 7 from natural pregnancies--we just wanted to make a little one.

My ED was a first time donor. She is 22. She had 16 eggs retrieved, 12 fertilized, we implanted 2 good quality 5 day blasts and froze 6. I am now 15 days past my reansfer. You can see my beta nums below...looks good so far. I experienced one small time of cramping and teeny spotting the eve after my transfer--which makes me think ONE--my beta could certaibly be one or TWO--which scares the heck out of me :lol:

I'm glad you're here Carolyn--and I look forward to journeying with you.
me 45 1/2
DH 45--2 kids 15 & 10
adopted daughter age 20
1st IVF cycle w ED BFP!
9dp5dt beta 116! 13dp5dt beta 897!
20dp5dt beta 13,900
3-27-09 ONE HEARTBEAT!! 110
4-13-09 185 Heartbeat all is well :)
Posts: 40
Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:42 pm


Postby bonnie » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:24 pm

Oh--and here is a cool site for looking at beta numbers too!


me 45 1/2
DH 45--2 kids 15 & 10
adopted daughter age 20
1st IVF cycle w ED BFP!
9dp5dt beta 116! 13dp5dt beta 897!
20dp5dt beta 13,900
3-27-09 ONE HEARTBEAT!! 110
4-13-09 185 Heartbeat all is well :)
Posts: 40
Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:42 pm

Postby joyanna » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:28 pm

Hi everyone

Thank you for such a warm welcome. It makes such a difference. I am just trying to catch up with everyone so aplogies if I miss out on anyone.....

bonnie - huge congrats to you. Great betas.

Suzanne - twins...very exciting. You got a great response in your last cycle. Lots of frosties ....any tips on how to make the most of our egg quality???? I really noticed a difference when I did fresh cycle aged 37 and 39 (last year). I had no frozen embyros from my last ivf..... Also, thanks for input on the injections, I guess I have to just do it!!!

Sisi1 - I know that waiting to trigger feeling. I feel like I am going to explode so I hope that you get to move to the ER soon

Liam's mommy - Hi to you and thanks for all your tips and advice throughout this forum. I am hoping that my hubby will be around after the er and et for a bit. It is a hard one cos everytime I have gotten pregnant with ivf - I stayed on bedrest for 4 days after et .........so I feel like I am jinking it if I don't (after the FETs I just rested the day of transfer and not much after that)....but this time his work is a big pressure and with the economic climate in ireland it is hard to get much flexibility with work.

AKmon ....hi and thanks for welcome

NY4thtry - your fertility reports looks very good so pg you will get a bunch to freeze. You did the shots too .....so I am feeling more confident about being able to self inject.

Wishful27 - hello to you. I am using my own eggs this time but am very concerned about quality as pre my chat with suzanne above. do you have dates for er yet?

everyone else....hi.
Me 42, DH 44
Me - mild pcos, tube prob DH - ok
1st IVF July 2005 mc 7 weeks
2nd IVF Dec 2005 dd August 2006
3 FETs 2006/07-2007 all BFN
3rd IVF July 2008 mc at 9 weeks
4th IVF May 2009 mc at 9 weeks
4th FET Jan 2010 BFN
5th IVF April 2011 BFN
Posts: 125
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:42 pm
Location: Ireland

Postby Sisi1 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:13 pm


Finally trigger tonight!

I am soo relived!

Estrogen still rising nicely at 5944 CAN/1817 US. That appears to indicate I may have 8-10 mature follies by Friday!

Can't wait to have it over with, it's gonna be long 2 days........
41, unexplained (plain old) fsh 4.7
DH 55 lots of good swimmers
3xclomid BFN
First and last IVF:
A) canceled due to low response on day 3
B) Negative beta April 06/09
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:05 pm
Location: Canada

Postby Suzanne18 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:33 pm

:arrow: joyanna... the only tip I can provide is my RE's belief that he gets better responses for over 40 and /or poor responders using the ESTROGEN PRIMING PROTOCOL... I don't think it's possible to change the quality of eggs at this point (perhaps future infertility findings will change that!), but I think the thought is that the greater the response to stimulation, the better the chance to retrieve some good eggs (i.e., more eggs = a greater possibilty of some good ones)... does that make sense?

no other tips... I always thought some of it was luck, and if it was meant to happen with my eggs, then so be it... if not, DE and adoptions were fine options as well.
Suzanne, age 41

IVF #1
(12) eggs retrieved/ (9) fertilized normally
(5) Gr. A embryos transferred - Day 3 - 01/28
(4) Gr. A embryos frozen - Day 5 - 01/30
betas (dpER) 14: 383; 16: 1244; 22: 10038; 30: 46800; 44: 207,553 (2 heartbeats!)
Posts: 44
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:17 pm

Postby teachertam » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:35 am

Welcome Joyanna and Caroline!

Sis1: Good luck on your ER this Friday!

NY: Wow, 15 fertilized eggs! That is great news. When will you
proceed with the FET?

Bonnie: Your beta is a strong healthy number!

Renee: Good luck on your upcoming move. Please get back on the boards when you can.

Hello to everyone else.

Take care all,
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
Posts: 896
Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:37 am
Location: Indiana, USA

Postby Liam'sMommy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:49 pm

NY, awesome news. How are your embies doing?

Sisi, 8-10 eggs. You are rocking. Congrats.

Hello to everybody else. I am getting the list out today. I have a bit of a procrastination problem. :oops:

PLEASE post any updates i need to include in the list.

Kelly 42
DH 50
DS 11/03/06
Posts: 337
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:50 pm

Postby Liam'sMommy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:16 pm

Okay, a couple of announcements first. The group is getting rather large. I will not be including many personals when i post it. I will keep up with them along the way. Also, if we don't hear from you, i will temporarily remove you from the list. When you come back i will gladly add you back on. FYI, for some of the new ladies, I am only including IVF attempts for the baby you are working on presently. Any other info you would like people to know about you can be placed in your signature.

Is there anyway to remove the advertisements when you are reading the posts? They make me nuts.

I will be traveling to St. Louis next week for ER. If you don't hear from me don't worry. I promise i will return. :wink:

babyluv, good luck on your beta tomorrow. I rethought adding you to the list and have decided not to because the list is getting so big. Also, i want reserve it for AMA patients, as that was my original intent. But please feel free to post on here whenever you want. We will still support you and welcome your input.

joyanna, i know you have developed a little superstition about BFP as it relates to days of bed rest following ET. However, many people don't rest at all after ET and are successful. Most rest for a day at the most. IF you transfer a healthy embryo you will get pregnant. Try not to worry about that. I know, easier said than done.

, you are not alone. You will be the 4th lady using DE in the group. I don't recommend transferring 3 or you may end up like Elida did.

Natashamom, i just wanted to tell you that i am sorry for your loss. I saw it posted elsewhere.

kat, what's up?

Lynnnie, what's new?

NJ, i can't wait to see how you respond to meds. You should up an running in a couple of weeks or so. I bet you are getting very excited.

Biddy, any news on your beta?

Tammy, did you start femara on day 3?

Sisi, what time is your ER on Friday?

Santa, any concrete plans?

and Sue, you have your first US on the same day. How exciting!!


Rinnie 43, bfp after ivf #3 switched to iui. EDC ?

Elida 41, DE ivf #1 11/08, triplet girls. EDC ?

Helen 39, ivf#3 11/08, twins. EDC ?

Lynn 42, ivf #4 11/08, singleton, amnio 2/26, EDC Aug. 18,2009, We are all praying for you.

Rhonda 40, natural BFP 12/08 after failed ivf in Nov. US 01/16 shows singleton. EDC ?

41, ivf #1 2/09, first US 2/16 pregnant with twins. US #2 2/24 saw 2 HB, US # 3 again saw 2 strong HB. EDC?

Missy 41, ivf #1, ET 2/18 2 embies, beta1:high 600s at 17 dpo/er, beta2:1695, beta3:26000, US 3/11 HB 119 YIPPEE!!!! EDC 10/30/09.

SueQiwi 39, ivf #3, ER 2/18 2 day 3 embryos, 3/1 beta:1 151, 3/3 beta:2 675, beta:3 12,188. US 3/27

45, 3/2 ET 2 DE blasts plus 6 made it to freeze. 3/12 beta1:119, beta2:897, US 3/27


Santa 42, ivf # 2 transferred 3 embies 2/23, + HPT, 3/6 beta1: negative, Chemical pregnancy, regrouping, Hoping 3rd time is a charm.

Cougarkat 41, second attempt at ivf #1 2/28 transferred 3 blasts and froze 3 blasts, beta1: negative, regrouping, Hoping 3rd time is a charm.

Biddy 42, IVF #3, ET 3/6 2 embies, officially PUPO and in the 2WOH. Hoping 3rd time is a charm for you!!!

Sisi1 41, AF 3/6, has 8-10 follies in play, trigger 3/18, ER 3/20. Congrats!!! I hope things continue to go so well!!

NY4thtry 40, IVF #7 banking/CGH cycle in progress, ER 3/16: 21 eggs, 17 mature, 15 fertilized. CONGRATS!!! Stellar performance.

42, ivf #2 banking cycle, US 3/13 10 follies, started ganirelix then stims 3/16.

njurga 44, IVF#1, US 3/11 3 follies, started stims?

, Second try for IVF # 2, starting estrogen 3/15 and stims in April.

Kris 41, ivf # 3, starting estrogen in March and stims in April

wishful27 40, IVF#3 4/09, DE cycle in Prague

joyanna 40, ivf#4 2nd fresh cycle after 2 FET, ER ~4/23


Tammy 44, 12/08 IVF#3 BFN, currently TTC naturally, after this cycle will start tring with femara.

Renee 41, trying naturally when she hooks up with husband in April. Then will do IUI this summer when DH is back from the mainland.

41, taking a break. Taking a break. Will try again soon. Hoping 3rd time is a charm for you.

Please tell me what i need to add or change. I hope you all are doing well.

HUGS, Kelly
Kelly 42
DH 50
DS 11/03/06
Posts: 337
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:50 pm

Postby NY4thtry » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:54 pm

ok guys heres my update

All embies are grade 1-2
5 8 cells
5- 7 cells
2- 6 cells
3-4 cells

All but the 4 cells were biposied for CGH now we just have to see how many make it to blast
Me 43 dh 65
6 cycles 3 chemicals
13+ banking cycles. 2 failed transfers to Surro
12/9 transfer 2 hatching blasts to surro beta 12/ 15
Posts: 553
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:34 pm

Postby wishfull27 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:01 pm

hiya - thanks everyone for your warm welcomes :lol:

I need to get my head round where everyone is before I start doing personals - hope your not offended :o

I took last BCP last night and am now waiting for AF to start taking drugs to prepare me for ET - hopefully Af should be here by weekdn and then looking at ET around 5-7 April .. as we are travelling from UK to Chezch republic I am just getting stresed that cannot book flights till know when AF is here :roll: - we are very lucky though that on holiday in October we met a couple from Prague - who can you believe it have had fertility treatment at clinic we are using and we stayed with them in jan when went for inital consultation and are staying with them for ET too - just meant to be :lol:

huge hugs and love to all you amazing ladies out there - will read properley over weekend and do personals justy bushed from stressful days at work :roll:

carolyn xxx
Valued Contributor
Posts: 1580
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Location: UK

Postby AKMom » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:53 pm

Hi there ladies.

I have an appt with my RE March 28, Saturday, I am compiling a list of questions If any of you have any helpful questions that I should ask, please pass it on. thank you.


Me 41-DH 27
DD: 11/16/91
DS: 12/03/93- 3/22/94 SIDS
DD: 11-13/95: DS: 08/13/97
NON Reversible Tubal Ligation
1st IVF canx Hyper stim 40+ Follies
ET 2/28 BFN ET 5/28 Beta: 06/09
Posts: 103
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:26 pm

Postby Liam'sMommy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:32 pm

NY, your results are fantastic!!!! Your time has come. I just know it. By the way, did you use a different protocol this time?

carolyn, that is an amazing story. Yep, i would say it was meant to be.

Kat, i will try to think of some. But it is hard to think of questions for somebody else. Is it your new RE or is it your WTF meeting with the old RE?

Kelly 42
DH 50
DS 11/03/06
Posts: 337
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:50 pm

Postby njsurga » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:51 am

Hi Ladies!!! Still cycling, I have my 2nd ultrasound tomorrow on the ole ovaries. I wanna get started already!
I'm on day 15 of my cycle so I guess my RE will have to make a decision soon on what protocal he's goin to use. I'm hangin in there!! I'll give an update soon as I know. Oh, and welcome to all the new ladies!!!!!
Posts: 81
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:52 am

Postby MsPink » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:12 am

Hi Ladies,

Just wanted to pop in and introduce myself.

Am new to this site but sadly not new to IVF as you can see from my signature.

Have just started yet another cycle and am on day 3 of FSH. Names of drugs and levels are very different between Australia and the States..so I hope you can be patient with me.

Have joined this site to learn. If my cycle fails, I think I am going to get on a plane and try the States. I don't think there is much difference between protocols.. but I do think your Labs are far more advanced - and truly believe this is where all the action is - so to speak.

Please give me a little time to get to know you all.

Wishing you all the best of luck..
Lulu (43)
1xIUI (due failed IVF cycle)
10 full IVF-ICSI, 4 FET's
PG Feb 2007 twins and miscarried April 2008
Posts: 6
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:05 am
Location: Australia

Postby MsPink » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:28 am

Hey Suzanne,

Can I ask you to briefly explain the Estrogen Priming Protocol please??
Lulu (43)
1xIUI (due failed IVF cycle)
10 full IVF-ICSI, 4 FET's
PG Feb 2007 twins and miscarried April 2008
Posts: 6
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:05 am
Location: Australia


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