Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Kerri_789 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:09 pm

Hi girls,
I have been depressed for a while. Just had my 40th birthday. It is time to face my problems again.
The consellor shared our new plan this morning. The plan consists of Progynova (estradiol valerate), GnRH analogs, Menopur. The plan looks like this:
1. start taking Progynova (2mg) on the last day or the first day of my period and continue taking it until notified
2. 10 days after taking Progynova, do blood check.
3. after confirmation by blood check, start stimulation
4. Only inject Menopur for the first 7 days of stimulation then add orgaluran for the rest of stimulation
5. 2 days before pickup, inject 0.2mg of Decapeptyl and then take blood sample in the next morning
6. After confirmed by blood check, inject 5000IE of Pregnyl a day before pickup.
7. a day after pickup, take Utrogestan and progynova for 7 days
It looks very complicated and very different from my previous protocols. Has anyone used this protocol? Why did your doctor recommend it? What was the outcome?

I will start the preparation around 12/12. We expect to have pickup and transfer during New Year holiday :D HAPPY NEW YEAR :D
me:40; DH:42
ttc 10 years
9/2010 IVF#1: BFN
11/2010 IVF#2: chemical
1-2/2011 IVF#3: BFN
5/2011 IVF#4: BFN
12/2011 IVF#5: no embies for ET

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by rosie84 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:57 pm

Hi guys, I have some pretty exciting news to share today - I got a faint 2nd line this morning at 6dp5dt! Today a year ago I was in the hospital miscarrying. I still can't believe it...it's totally surreal. I was crying so hard, DH thought something horrible had happened. I have inserted a picture for your inspection :D My E2 is very low, so today I started estrogen pills...I hope it will be ok. My beta isn't until Sunday, and I have such a looooong way to go, but I am trying to be positive!

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me: 28, DH: 36 dx: unexplained
IUIs #1-6 = 5 BFNs and 1 loss
#1 IVF = BFN
#2 FET = BFN
#3 FET = BFN
#4 IVF = BFP, Naava and Aminadav, born and died @19w5d on 3/7/12 due to pPROM
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Sunshine1576 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:07 pm

Rosie, I see the line, please please post us more positive hpts all the way up to your beta! I live for good news and will get my butt out of this chair and dance around the room with my labradors for your BFP!
Married 13 yrs
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1 natural pg- m/c at 7 wks
(2010-2012) 4 IUIs, 2 IVFs
FET cycle 2/25/2013
Beta: 95, 390, 1361
3/27 HR 140
4/10 HR 184
4/17 Released from RE
6/21 Found out we are having a BOY!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Gina1976 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:15 pm

Rosie- Hoping and praying it continues to get darker!! We def need some good news on the boards!!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by rosie84 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:15 pm

Kerri - I think I have heard of that protocol as the "estrogen priming protocol" or "EPP". I think many ladies who haven't responded well in the past have good success with it - I hope you will, too!

We - You and your whole family are in my thoughts and prayers today. Big hugs.

Samantha - So, so sorry for the BFN :( Thinking of you.

Julia - You aren't going crazy - IVF BFNs are really traumatic. To answer your question, I am quite sure the embryo isn't any bigger than a pencil point at this point, so I don't think there is really anything that would be visible to the naked eye. If you are concerned about what's going on (i.e. is it AF, is it not AF, etc), definitely call your clinic and see what they say. Thinking of you today.

Leora - Your song lyrics made me teary. They are so fitting. So many good vibes for tomorrow. I hope all goes smoothly and flawlessly and that this time tomorrow you are PUPO, with the -UPO part removed next week! I love your rainbow photograph. We are all waiting with you, so excited for your rainbow after the storm.

kala - Good luck! Yay for the beginning of your cycle!

Sunshine - Thinking of you as you move forward. It sounds like the consultation yesterday went well. I will try to pull my weight with positive pregnancy tests :)

bodie - Good luck tomorrow!!
me: 28, DH: 36 dx: unexplained
IUIs #1-6 = 5 BFNs and 1 loss
#1 IVF = BFN
#2 FET = BFN
#3 FET = BFN
#4 IVF = BFP, Naava and Aminadav, born and died @19w5d on 3/7/12 due to pPROM
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by SamanthaRae21 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:17 pm

Rosie: I see the line too!! So exciting, even though I didnt come up with the same result yesterday, I am so thrilled for you on your happy news!! Enjoy this moment and keep the faith girl!! Yay!! :D
Me 24- Polycystic Ovaries, but not PCOS. Ovulate normal, Normal AF every month.
DH 26- No Issues...well not fertility wise, but can be a nerd at times. ;)
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ER- 10/26 11 eggs
5 day ET- 2 viable embies
1st BETA scheduled for 11/14!
Result: BFN :(

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Julia73 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:28 pm

Rosie! I am so excited for your news! Keep us posted!

I called the clinic, it is af. Nurse said expect it to be worse than usual (which is bad always) and the embies are microscopic. I asked about possible late implantation and she says not likely. Mil/sil sent flowers. They are so great...excited to possibly start again in january and trying to find acupuncture near me.
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DH-51
Ivf#1 BFN
ivf#2: 2/12, beta : 4/6. Good Friday! Bfp!! Beta 4/6: 542, Beta 4/9: 2343, Beta 4/11:4102, 4/16 U/s, hb 100 bpm. 4/23, u/s : hb 136, 4/30 u/s: hb 167, graduated from the clinic!
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Post by jayne321 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:13 pm

Good morning~ geez so much has happened. I've worked 26 hours the last two days so that is why I have been MIA. Busy days. Sad depressing stories at the hospital. Always brings me back to reality that my life is not that bad.

Julia~I'm so sorry. I know how much you both wanted this and how hard the emotional roller coaster can be. I'm thinking of you.

Rosie~ Yay! Finally some good news. Very reassuring to see a line this early. I think for a lot of pregnancy tests, your beta level has to be 75 or greater before it spills in the urine and it registers on the HPT. Maybe they both took since you are positive so early. You gve me hope to maybe try one last time with my own eggs.

Kerri~Oh wow. That is quite the protocol. I've never heard of it. I really hope it works for you. I always like trying something new though. Good luck and keep us posted.

Samantha~So sorry for the bad news. After all of this bad news on this board, I am starting to get depressed that this never works. I had to read some of the baby board last night to give me hope (and of course, rosie's good news helps too). I can't remember... do you have frozen embryos?

Leora~ oh my. Today is the day. Wow. I'm hoping for a great thaw and a healthy transfer. You deserve this so much. I'm sending you warm wishes today. Please let us know how it goes...

Kala~ Happy that AF came. Now you can start the countdown. I love checking things off of the list. And yes, you may need to bring benadryl. My son (only 3.5) has been on 11 round trips flights. I always have benadryl in my bag. Never given it but I bring it to make me feel better if I'm desperate. Now he's a professional traveler though. He's super good on flights. Probably better than me.

Dogzrule~So nice to hear that a low beta resulted in a healthy baby. They say that can happen and it's nice to hear a story to confirm it.

Bodie~ I hope your U/S goes well. Good luck. And yes, we do need more good news.

Neffi~ That is a tricky situation. The co-parenting thing wouldn't work for me either. I'm hoping the best for you.

Becca~ good luck on your beta.

Maria~ OH no! I am so very sorry. I was 8 when my dad was killed in a motorcycle accident. I still remember the day when I woke up and read the note my mom left for my sister. It read... please take care of your brother and sister today. Dad has been in a bad accident and I am at the hospital. Ugh. Tears in my eyes just re-writing that and it was about thirty year ago. No one can replace a loss of a parent. I am so sorry for your son's loss. Please know I am thinking of you.

Blessed~ I hoping for a nice double number on your next beta. 46 is pregnant. I've been in beta hell before so I know it's no fun.

Kerpuddles~ Yay for AF. That's a tough question. one or two. Not sure what I would do. And as far as scuba diving... isn't it great? I have not been to Cano island before. I've been to Costa Rica but never been diving there. I'm in love with Costa Rica. It's one of my top 3 countries to visit.

Fruit~ looking forward to getting to know you.

AFM~ I have appt with RE today to figure out our next step. 1. Another fresh IVF 2. surrogate? (I have a friend who is willing) 3. donor eggs

I'm waiting to see what the new criteria is on the adoption from India. I hate to waste time and money on paperwork if we don't qualify. I'm hoping they release the info by the end of the year.

Now, I'm off to find a laundromat. Our washer is broken. What a drag!
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Me38 DH41
M/c 21wks 12 oz DD
Jan 08 DS
IUIx3 all BFN
ClomidX2 1natural; 1IUI both BFN
IVF#1Apr 11 BFP OHSS Low hcg u/s 6w3d; blighted ovum:D&C.
IVF#2Nov BFN
IVF#3Apr 12 Failed ED cycle
IVF#4Beta30510dp5dt 62712dp5dt own eggs; 2 heartbeats

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by becca5m » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:43 pm

BFN for me

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by blueeyedreamer » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:20 pm

Becca- so sorry for the bfn.

Rosie- :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I'm super excited for you. That is a beautiful line. Keep posting them please!

Maria-Thinking of you today.

AFM-Keeping it short right now. Just got home from the d&c. It's over, finally. Catch up with you all later.
Nicole 35, DH 42
IVF 1 BFN
FET 2 BFP twins, M/C 7 weeks.
FET 3 BFP, chemical beta high 81
IVF 4 BFP, chemical beta high 707
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by jayne321 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:58 pm

Becca~ I'm so sorry.

Blueeye~ Ugh on the D & C. Not a fun process. Thinking of you. (((hugs)))
Me38 DH41
M/c 21wks 12 oz DD
Jan 08 DS
IUIx3 all BFN
ClomidX2 1natural; 1IUI both BFN
IVF#1Apr 11 BFP OHSS Low hcg u/s 6w3d; blighted ovum:D&C.
IVF#2Nov BFN
IVF#3Apr 12 Failed ED cycle
IVF#4Beta30510dp5dt 62712dp5dt own eggs; 2 heartbeats

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Post by Julia73 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:12 pm

Becca, I am so sorry. I know nothing I say will change the sadness, but I'm thinking of u.
Me-38
DH-51
Ivf#1 BFN
ivf#2: 2/12, beta : 4/6. Good Friday! Bfp!! Beta 4/6: 542, Beta 4/9: 2343, Beta 4/11:4102, 4/16 U/s, hb 100 bpm. 4/23, u/s : hb 136, 4/30 u/s: hb 167, graduated from the clinic!
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by kerpupples » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:24 pm

Blessed - do keep us abreast of that next beta. I've got high hopes for you! My first beta with DD was 90, not a really high number and she is absolutely perfect.

Julia - so sorry for the BFN. Your cycle sounds an awful lot like my very first IVF cycle ever - looked like there would be a lot of eggs, but few retrieved, only 2 made it to a 3-day transfer, and none to freeze. In my case most of the eggs were not mature enough to produce good embryos. For the next cycle the only thing the RE did differently was have me stim for an extra day, and it made all the difference in the world. Something you may want to ask your RE about during your consult.

Rosie - that is such a lovely line! :) The 2ww is craze inducing indeed. so hope you keep getting darker lines!

Becca - sad face for you :(.

Blue - don't be afraid of painkillers after your D&C! Hope you recover quickly, physically anyway. The other part, well I can't say there's anything that really fixes it except for time.

LYD - ouch! Hope you get some yoga in - that helps so much.

Ninde - it's your turn for AF now!

Neffi - thinking positive thoughts about that birth mom. Let us know. This is the first I've heard of Viagra for your lining. Very interesting.

Bodie - I luvluvluvluv True Blood! I'm with Leora regarding the teen drama of VD, BUT I loved Ian Somerhalder on Lost so I can absolutely see the appeal.

Christy - so nice of you to try to cheer people up. Hope it helps with your own PMA as well. Our RE put my DH on a cocktail of Vitamins C&E, Coenzyme Q 10, Lycopene, and a men's multi for 8 weeks. It didn't work for him (seriously low counts) but you might give it a try. My clinic is supposed to be one of the best in the country.

Kala - hooray for AF! Mine is really heavy too. My clinic isn't disclosing my protocol until we get the genetic testing results back, next week or the week after. Your schedule looks great! Boy do I hear you on the wind - DD and I nearly got blown away on Saturday morning. I bet you get it really bad where you are at.

Leora - Man do I miss those pre-TTC periods when I too was on BCP. No more than 2 days of very light bleeding. PGD results won't be in until next week or the week after, so looking at a December FET. Hope that little embie thaws perfectly for you tomorrow!

Samantha - so sorry about the BFN. Be gentle with yourself these next few days.

Jayne - we talked about it last night and I think we'll go for two. DH is actually getting excited at the possibility of twins. I never pictured myself with more than 2 kids but I think we'll manage. We love Costa Rica too, have been on two separate trips there. Are you leaning towards any one of those 3 options for your next cycle?

AFM, nothing interesting, just a heavy AF day. We won't know our exact FET protocol until after we get our PGD results back. Hoping that can happen before Thanksgiving but won't expect it until after.
Amy
Me: 39 DH: 41 Male Factor
3yo DD from FET
IVF PGD clinical trial, FET Jan 2012 Beta 1/14 447, Beta 1/16 1161 U/S 1/30 it's twins!
Graham and Audrey born 9/5/12. 37w4d, no NICU time!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by kala0704 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:31 pm

leora-Yes, I love celebrating Christmas. Serbians are Muslim and Orthodox. Most celebrate Christmas on Jan. 7 and we will be back in the U.S. by then. I am super bummed about being away from my family during Christmas. They will actually be in Germany with my brother who is in the army. I'm praying I have a little New Year miracle. Wow! your FET came up quick, I'm praying all goes will with defrosting and sticking :)

Julia- I'm so sorry hun...It sounds like a good idea to take a little break for the holidays and start back up in January. That is kind of the mentality wit others. Enjoy your DH and family and let's hope for 2012 miracles!

Samantha-I'm so sorry for you too. I'm glad you have a supportive and loving DH to help you thorugh this difficult time.

Becca-Im so sorry....we were all praying so hard for you! Im praying that you and DH can heal during this hard time.

Kerri-Im not familiar with that protocol. From your history, Im glad your RE is changing things up for you. It sounds like you have your timeline set. I hope we both get our NEW YEAR BFPs!!!!

Rosie-YAY for your +hpt!!! I have everything crossed for you!!! Praying for high beautiful beta!!! Keep POASing and keep us POSTed!

We- how is your son doing today? We are still praying for ya'll!

Jayne
-Im glad Im not the only mom to think of benadryl...i feel kinda guilty. Hopefully there will be one of those pull down crib things on the plane. I really dont know how Im going to do this. What a wonderful friend to volunteer for serrogacy. I would love to it for someone...just got to make my own babies first. Good luck with your next step!

Blueeye-thinking of you during this difficult time. I hope you can get some rest and relaxation during this week. So sorry!

AFM-Bloody hell! This AF is awful! Im going through maxi pads like crazy and gave up on tampons. I wish DH was here to help with DD. Im so worn down from losing so much blood. Maybe I should take an iron supplement. Thanks for all the well wishes. I am really trying hard not to stress about this FET.
Me-29 ok
DH-32 paraplegic
#1 IVF-10/09 BFP--Lejla Christine born 6/28/10
#2 FET-12/11 BFN
#3 FET-6/20 BFP--Betas:7/3-380, 7/5-1495
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Ninde » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:05 pm

Evening ladies - I have just spent 40 mins doing personals and instead of hitting submit I hit save draft and now I can't bloody well find it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone know where they save themselves?!! And please forgive me for not reposting if I can't refind them! I'm thinking of you all - particularly you Julia and also Becca x

Ninde (who is going to throw her laptop out of the window!!!!!!!!!!!)
Ivf # 1 aug 2011 bfp. M/C 9 weeks
Ivf # 2 Mar 2012, beta Apr 12: Bfn
Ivf # 3 Aug 2012, another heart breaking bfn
Ivf # 4 Feb 2012

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