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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by JenMink55 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:09 am

Leora-- I can relate. I am going through the same thing right now. I am praying for both of us honey!

No time for personals just an update- Seems like Leora and I are in the same boat tonight. I had a transvaginal U/S on Friday and about 3 hours after I was spotting pretty bad. The spotting dried up within an hour and then no blood to be seen until 230am this morning. I woke up and peed and noticed my urine was a little red, maybe more spotting?? Drank some water than went back to bed. Woke up from cramping about 30 minutes later and peed again. Way more blood and a big piece of mucus that was covered in blood came out. Cramping stayed pretty intense for about 2 hours than I was able to rest a little. Since that 2nd bleed I have had nothing but I am honestly waiting for it to kick in again. I paged my RE this morning and she called me back. She thinks that my Uterus or Cervix was highly irritated from the U/S and told me to rest and increase my PIO from 1 x per day to 2 x per day saying that would calm down my Uterus. She said it's highly unlikely it's a miscarriage since the bleeding stopped and I wasn't passing clots and having intense cramping. So far no bleeding but I am still a little crampy. It's mostly in my back and an occasional shooting pain in my lower abdomen. I am hoping that it's just the twin that stopped growing passing and not my little jelly bean with the heartbeat. I am PRAYING this isn't taken away from me.

Why can't this be easy SHIT!!!! I am so sick of all the losses and heartbreak. I am just SO OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by bonnieucwv » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:40 am

leora--- So sorry to hear about your struggles :( I pray that everything turns out ok tomorrow!
ninde--They are def doing the extraction on tuesday!! One step closer and a little more frightened!

Good luck and positive thoughts/wishes to all you ladies!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by jayne321 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:53 am

Leora~ no no no. This was supposed to be the stress free easy pregnancy that you deserve. I hope the ultrasound brings good news. I'm thinking of you.

Jenmink~ When I was pregnant with my son, I was pregnant with twins and lost one at 7-8 weeks. I bled for a day or so and then it went away. The rest of the pregnancy went well. I hope your little bean is OK.

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2. Favorite Hobby or Sport? Hiking
3. Favorite food/chocolate? Bread and butter and rum nougat from Sees.
4. Best all time movie? Evita, Bridesmaids, Ides of March (first that came to mind).
5. Your dream vacation getaway? Climbing to base camp on Everest.

Off to sleep because my 5:30 wake-up call from work always comes early.

Amanda~Our hospital has been CRAZY too! Too many people eating too much and having heart attacks and too many drunk drivers! Can't wait for flu season...
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Tess69 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:40 am

Leora - f*ck!! What is with this! You absolutely CANNOT have your happy bubble burst! Grrrr! Hang in there...I know you're strong enough to deal with whatever comes your way but it really is time for your turn to have something good happen.

Jen - ....and you are going through the same. i'm really hoping that it was little twinnie passing through.

Enormous amounts of positive vibes heading over to Leora and Jen....

Gina - your niece sounds like a nightmare and so ungrateful for what has been given to her. It really makes me feel quit sick when I hear about young people like this getting pregnant. Let's just hope that a baby will straighten her out!

Blue - I laughed reading your post. I'm from New Zealand but the term 'dressing gown' is British I think. Ninde knows what I mean :)

Ninde - yes it's early Summer here and I'm lapping it up. My vegetables are growing madly in the garden, the birds are busy getting at it, and the days are getting warm. Love it! 3 degrees sounds frickin freezing. If you need to lose weight in a short space of time, perhaps go for weightwatchers or Jenny Craig. I'm not a believer in either method of weight loss but if it means you get to do an IVF cycle, then go for it. Then you can concentrate on lifestyle changes when your preggas from that IVF. :D

Bodie - your 11 wks already. Time is flying by. Is it for you?

Amanda - it sounds like you do an amazing job. I can't even begin to imagine what it like in an ER. It definitely takes a special kind of person to do it...

AFM - 3rd beta today. It's rising at a snail's pace...is now 55. The clinic said it could be chemical or ectopic so I've got another bloodtest on Fri. I guess if my numbers are still rising, they will do a scan to see if they can find anything. So I'm to look out for severe pain...okay...will do! Pretty hard to miss I imagine.

Has anybody else had an ectopic pregnancy? If so, would you mind sharing your experience?

I'm feeling fine now and just looking forward to a few weeks break with no IVF. It's been one shit of a year or two and I only hope that next year is a bit more forgiving!
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Tess69 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:57 am

Oh by the way....

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Dream vacation = a six month trip via USA, Canada, Malaysia - Sabah and Sarawak, Vietnam, Ireland, Greek Isles, Egypt, Morocco, a couple of Scandanavian countries...the list could go on.

Yay, it's almost time for bed. I woke up at 3 am this morning with the local voluntary fire brigade alarm going off. Not sure what had happened but I didn't manage to get back to sleep again.
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by leorira11 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:08 am

nothing on the u/s.

At this point, we've always seen a gestational sac with a yolk.

My lining is still thick and my cervix is still closed, so no apparent signs of a miscarriage. No apparent signs of a pregnancy either though...

they tried to reassure me that it might just be too early... but we all know that's bullsh*t.

They took blood for another beta. Based on my last number (690 last Thursday), to be within the realm of normal, I should definitely be above 1000 -- but above 1000, there should definitely be something on the u/s.

If the beta comes back as lower, or as risen but only a little bit - then this is over. If the beta has risen normally (doubtful), we'll have to follow up with another u/s in a few days.

I'm sitting at work - dying for them to call me back.

I feel numb inside. I can't believe this is happening...
8 IVF+6 FET=6 BFN+8 BFP =

-b/g twins 22w (12.09)
-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

last attempt - donor sperm - baby girl born healthy July 2014

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by leorira11 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:42 am

Beta is 1187. crap.

DPO ----Beta ------Doubling time from previous test
13 ----21-------------(none)
16 ----122 --------28.36 hrs
19 ----690 --------28.80 hrs
24 ----1187 ----------153.32 hrs

That should be closer to 4000 and doubling at least every 72 hours.

Also - but about 1000-2000 iu/ml you should see a gestational sac on the u/s (and usually earlier).

They are trying to reassure me that it's still early and that maybe things could be fine, but we are totally crushed.

crap.

I'll probably have a follow up u/s and blood test scheduled. They'll want me to wait until next week, but I'll push for Thursday. I want to know...

we are totally numb. David stayed home from work. I'm at work, but not doing anything productive...
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8 IVF+6 FET=6 BFN+8 BFP =

-b/g twins 22w (12.09)
-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

last attempt - donor sperm - baby girl born healthy July 2014

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Ninde » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:49 am

Just checking in quickly

Leorira:oh no, I'm so sorry, this is horrendous. I really thought with your numbers doubling so well you were in the clear. I'm so so sorry. What happens next, will you have another u/s. I cant imagine how yourself and david must be feeling. Ill be thinking of you both.

Jenmink: oh mydear, what an awfully worrying time for yoy too. I'm so going that its your other little twin passing although I know that's horrible for you. Get lots of rest and I hope you get more reassurance from the re.

Ladies I'm really sad for you both and I'm thinking of you with all my heart

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Ivf # 3 Aug 2012, another heart breaking bfn
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Post by anton » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:19 am

Leora- NO! NO! I am so sorry you are going through this my friend! I, was sure and prayed that this pregnancy was uneventful one for you. Don't get your hopes down! your little one might just be a slow grower..... I am going to continue and pray that in your next u/s you get to see your miracle! my thoughts and prayers are with you and David. Hang in there ((HUGS))

Jen- I am sorry for you too honey! same with Leora, keep up your pma and hope for the best. My thoughts and prayers are with you as well. ((HUGS))

I sent to you both sticky and positive vibes!!!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by greekchick » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:47 am

Leora--ive gota a feeling everythin will be ok sweetie and things r just to whey to early try ur best to wait till next week..at least ur beta is rising..im sending alll the sticky vibes ..goodluck sweetie..x

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by leorira11 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:15 am

I go back on Wednesday.

The nurse I spoke to said that my doctor doesn't think it's all over yet... there is still hope.

we'll see.

I'm not even upset/sad --- I'm just numb.
8 IVF+6 FET=6 BFN+8 BFP =

-b/g twins 22w (12.09)
-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

last attempt - donor sperm - baby girl born healthy July 2014

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by fruit » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:50 am

Jen & Leora - Im so sorry about what u r going through, im praying that this will pass and that u'll continue to have healthy pregnancies. (((HUGS)))

Everyone - im sorry for being MIA, i always check the boards from time to time but all these bad news recently make my heart break! i can't read about miscarriage or BFNs it always make me sad, i can feel ur pain through my screen, through ur words and it always break my heart...
i know how much each and everyone is strong and actually i took the courage and the will to keep going in this journey from YOU ladies....
Love u all....

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by WeHaveHope » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:30 pm

Leora-don't loose hope. I'm continuing to pray for you.

Tess-I'm so sorry. Sensing you a big hug.
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by WeHaveHope » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:35 pm

UPDATED 12-5-11 @ 7:32am EST

I have not been able to update the board since 11-12. Please assist me in updating the board by posting a quick update on your status. Also if you know the status of anyone else on the board that I need to correct, please let me know. With everyones help, I should be able to have the board updated in a few days. Sending you lots of xoxoxo.


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Kendra_n_Michael-estimated ER 9-20-11
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Catdempsey-Fall/2011 ER end of October
Pinkboots11-PUPO. Beta 11-7.
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Cheri76-Fall IVF
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Gina1976-will schedule appt w/RE in several months for 1st IVF
Hopefulmommy-Nov/2011
Ninde-ER 1/2012, ET 2/2012
Sunshine1576-Feb/2012
Julia73-Feb/2012
Lyd10-on Lupron and starting Inj 12-3 for ER 12-16 or 12-17
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Tuffy4u-PUPO on 9-24-11 (2 blasts). BFP 10-3 Beta=205, Beta 10-5=519, 10-25 u/s twins 2 HB's
K8ielovett-PUPO 9-19-11. BFP 10-3 Beta=953, Beta 10-6=3403
Toniaa-PUPO 9-24-11(2 blasts). 10-6 +HPT, No Beta waiting for u/s
Counsel13-PUPO(4 embies). BFP 16dpo=470, 18dpo=2060
Bodie1011-PUPO 10-7(2 embies). 10-14 +HPT, 10-16 Beta=248, 10-18 Beta=725, 10-25 u/s twins, 10-31 2 HB's
Jen8675309-PUPO on 10-14(2 embies). 10-27 Beta=46, 10-29 Beta=59, 10-31 Beta 105
HopeThisWorksM-PUPO(2 embies). 11-1 Beta=146, 11-3 Beta=284, 11-8 Beta=886, 11-10 Beta=1653, u/s #1 HB, u/s #2 HB 120bpm.
JenMink55-PUPO 10-29(3 blasts). +HPT, 11-7 Beta=135, 11-9 Beta=320, 11-28 u/s 1 HB.
Leorira-BFP 13dpo=21, Beta 16dpo=122, 19dpi Beta=690, 24dpo Beta=1187
Tess69-11-27-11 BFP Beta=29, 11-30 Beta=33, 12-4 Beta=55
Blessed143-PUPO FET 11-3(2 embies). 11-10 +HPT, 11-14 BFP Beta=46, 11-16 Beta=89, 11-18 Beta=239, 12-2 u/s 1 HB.
Nac-BFP 11-28 11dp5dt Beta=42, 12-1 14dp5dt Beta=165

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Kerri_789 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:47 pm

Leorira,
I am happy that it is not over yet. I first read your message to Ghost and felt terrible for you. It now turns out that we still have hopes. Feel a bit positive now.

Tess,
My first pregnancy was ectopic. It was a natural pregnancy. The ectop was confirmed 3 days after the pregnancy was identified. I had been feeling wired for a while and my colleague told me I looked tired. Out of curiosity, I took a pregnancy test and it was positive. After I told my DH and we saw the doctor, it started cramping the next day. I felt really sick and vomited a couple of times. It was at a weekend so we called our family doctor. She thought it could be a spontaneous miscarriage and suggested wait and see. We waited and finally decided to call on the emergency room on Monday morning. A U/S found the embryo in the tube and it was 7.5 week old. They concluded the embryo was too large and decide to call an emergency operation. They took one of my tubes, which appears to be not necessary according to a senior surgeon.It was my story and also the start of my fertility treatments. I hope it is of help.

Another story may be more comforting. One of my sister in law has also been through IVF. Her second child was from a FET. She had also a slow beta increment and the doctor suspected an ectop or chem as well. As she later recalled, her gut feelings told her that the doctor was wrong and she refused any exam that may disturb her womb unless necessary. 9 months later, she gave birth to a beautiful boy, who is now 5 years old. It happened and may happen to you too. Keep your PMA!

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I could not hold my PMA anymore. I need to vent my negative feelings.
It was a family reunion to celebrate my father in law’s birthday yesterday. It was the first reunion after my DH ‘s youngest brother announced their pregnancy. I fortunately escaped the announcement but I cannot escape all family reunion. We were the first couple who arrived the parent’s home. It was fine. We talked about food and my job seeking. Everything went just fine. I felt all right. Then the children and his younger brother arrived. Children are always the center of the family. I am used to it so I can still manage it. Then the youngest couple arrived. We sat around the table and conversations started. The older couples with children told stories, good and bad, about how they brought up their children, all in small details. I had nothing to talk about. I tried to dream away from the conversation, just like I always did but for some reasons, I could not this time. I think I secretly still dreamed about having kids of my own and I want to know how people bring up their children. They talked about how they trained the children using toilet, how they dealt with sleepless nights, how to using pumpers, etc. They talked and laughed but I couldn’t related any of these. What's worse, when the thought of never be able to experience these, my wall fall apart. At this point, “positive thinking” is just a cynical way to blind myself from things that I cannot fulfill. I feel I am an alien in the world.
I sometimes wonder whether withdrawing myself from this attempt is easier? An Oestrogen priming protocol starts 13/12 and a pickup around New Year.
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9/2010 IVF#1: BFN
11/2010 IVF#2: chemical
1-2/2011 IVF#3: BFN
5/2011 IVF#4: BFN
12/2011 IVF#5: no embies for ET

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