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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Sunshine1576 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Bonnie,
We're not sure what that means, but regardless keep drinking plenty of water. I am counting down with you girl.

Ninde,
About the acupuncturist I hope she returns your call soon and can get you in around ovulation. How are you liking acupuncture overall and is mainly used to help increase blood flow?

LaureN,
I have ALWAYS wanted to visit riverwalk in San Antonio, seriously every since my brother told me how fabulous that place is it has been on my "places to someday visit" list...I would be in awe to see some pictures posted.

Neffi,
Like you said one way or another you will have that sibbling just as long as you never give up! I will be praying for you and dh, as we know how hard this journey can be. We must stay strong to prevail and get through this!

AFM: Finished baking last night, feel like a zillion things to do before we talk off for our family's Christmas, presents to finish wrapping and packing but I am getting excited to see everyone! Merry Christmas to you all! :D
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by bonnieucwv » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:15 pm

@ lauran- i am only doing the progrestrone IM inj nightly and daily aspirin
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Post by Gina1976 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:13 pm

Thanks Laura! Looking forward to getting back on my medications I should be on. Well except Meformin lol. I'm enjoying my AF's being more reg BUT without Ovulating it doesn't really matter I guess! I desperately need my Thyroid medication. I lose so much hair it's horrible. I clean out lots of it from my hairbrush every 2 days! :( It's always on the shower, bathroom sink, floor etc....you can def tell I've visited somewhere.

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Post by LYD10 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:53 pm

I just poased to make sure the Internet tests were working and I am glad I did. The line - detecting my trigger hCG - 6 days after the trigger - was very faint. And it took a fairly long time to come up. So now I know what to expect form these tests. And I guess I almost missed my trigger. I thought the trigger was supposed to hang around for 10 days... I guess we ll see. I'll try again in a few days to see if it's gone.
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Ninde » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:29 pm

Evening ladies :D

Christy: fantastic recipe, I've never used peanuts in my rocky road but ll give it a go :D In agree with you about your work situation and your colleague, she should really get her issues out in the open with the overall boss. How many of you work together? Gotmy accupuncturist!! She apologised and blamed it on her disorganisation!! Apparently the Accupuncture boosts fertility in general (if that's what the needles are being used for) also helps egg quality hugely and makes the womb more responsive. So i have it around day 5, around ovulation and day 21ish. I'll have it around transfer too I think

Lyd: its really interesting the american clinics check estrogen levels, mine doesn't. I'll ask this time I think.how are you feeling?

LauraN: Did you really like sherlock? I lived the first one but was quite bored this time. Mission impossible isnt here yet, january 2 I think. Im like you re tom cruise but I liked the mission impossible. How are you feeling?your baking sounds lovely!!!

Neffi: its great you have other options but this one isnt over yet I really hope x hang on, is still very early x

Bonnie, hmm that's odd. How bad are you feeling?

Leorira, antonina, Tess, blessed, julia, bodie, julia, how are you all?

Maria: I hope you had a restful day.

Afm: full day! Went grocery shopping, had a training session, got my hair cut and baked and iced chocolate cake, made mincepies and gingerbread :-) now watching tv!!!

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by kbillsy » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:07 am

A bit of a crazy day. I have lots to do to get ready for the holidays. I've been trying to alternate between activites and resting. Been feeling pretty crampy today. Then early this evening when I went to the bathroom there was a little blood - I went up to the main bathroom to put a liner on and in the 30 seconds it took me to get up there, there was a lot more blood. I called the on call nurse and she didn't seem concerned. She just said to wear a pad and to let them know if it gets a lot worse or if there are large clots. I asked if I needed to come in sooner for my ultrasound but she said to just wait and see if it goes away. She said something like 90% of women have spotting in the first trimester. Since then I've been trying to just lie down and keep my feet up. I just went to the bathroom again for the first time and there was more blood. It's not a full on flow but no question that there is blood. I'm trying not to stress over it too much but it is hard not to worry when you are bleeding :( I think I am going to try to get my ultrasound early - waiting until Thurs is going to really drive me crazy now!

LYD - Congrats on being pupo! Sounds like you have some healthy embryos in there! I've been on baby aspirin - my office had me start taking it at the very beginning of the cycle and I've continued with is post transfer and post BFP. Although I wonder if that is why I am bleeding now...

Happy Bunny - thanks for your post on spotting - it was one of the first I read tonight and it made me feel a little better.

Laura - congrats on your solid beta! That is excellent news mama!!!

I'm going to put the computer away and try to relax... I'll try to catch up more tomorrow. Good night!
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by Sunshine1576 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:37 am

***Warning venting like a mad woman tonight***
So proud of dh for the way he responded to everyone pulling us in different directions. Told him I had enough of accomodating everyone in the family and when he said that I better get ready to do ALOT of traveling. I was like what do you mean...Yes we are driving 7 hours to visit his parents and then 45 minutes to dinner one night to visit his oldest brother+family,I can handle all that, but then he said the next day we are traveling up to Georgia 4 hour total drive to see his other brother+family I was like no that is ridiculous they are out for Christmas vacation they need to be driving to see us. :roll: So dh called his parents back and told them we wouldn't be able to make the GA trip, afterall our visit to Alabama is very short like 48 hours altogether and I must visit my 92 yr old grandmother in the nursing home. Our family needs to undertand that just because we don't have kids doesn't mean they can expect us to always be accomodating to their needs with their kids or whatever the case may be.

Anyway I was so glad dh took control tonight with his side of the family.I love them to death but must understand we live the furtherest away, and yes I wish we had a babyseat in the back of our car maybe then they would be more understanding. As far as I'm concerned, we should just skype each other if they are going to be this difficult. I mean seriously when my SIL told me the 45 minute drive wasn't feasible b/c she has to work the next morning, I about lost it. I'm only asking for one evening, it's not that we come up to visit everyday! Sorry I'm venting and raging tonight. It always helps... But then I remember nobody talks to us, because we have no kids so usually dh and I take that long walk around the block. It's ridiculous and sometimes we even feel invisible sitting at the table listening to them go on and on about the kids...Anyway I have to stop talking this way and get modivated to pack. I do look forward to seeing most of my side, and maybe hold my nephew for the first time if I can do so without maybe myself or dh depressed, we shall see how this weekend goes! But the plus side is my big brother is having everyone spend the night at his house, so we won't have to be driving everywhere to see them at least. Next year is going to be so much different, but I'm glad for now we don't have to make the extra 4 hour drive...our traveling is already long enough!
So who else feels like booking a cruise with me and getting away from all the holiday family craziness? :P
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by bonnieucwv » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:16 am

my muscle aches continue to feel worse!!! Mostly in my upper abd arounds my ribs and my lower back!! I feel very blah,... i have thought about POAS tomorrow since we will be 7dp5dt tomorrow,.... but my dh wants me to wait till the blood test so that i dont get excited or worried until we know something for sure,... i am also having a hard time sleeping and having bad dreams,.... this med is gonna kill me!!
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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by leorira11 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:10 am

Sorry that I'm usually MIA over the weekends - somehow I'm much busier when not working than working! 7:30am on a Sunday morning -- and sitting at my desk at work. I don't really have much work to do - so I have plenty of time to catch up with my gals!

Amanda - well, too bad that a 'natural' cycle didn't work (even though I guess you knew it wouldn't - I also always 'try' even though I know it's pretty hopeless) - I'm glad AF is here. Image D&C is this week on Wednesday? Good luck. Have you ever had one before? Will they put you completely to sleep or with local anesthetic?

kbillsy - I've always seen a hb at 6w2d or 6w3d (depending on which day I went for my u/s) - but it's a bit early. If you wait just a few more days, you'll definitely see a heartbeat. I'm sorry about the spotting. It really can be fine -- ask Barbara or JenMink - both of whom have a ton of spotting but things are fine. I had bleeding (heavy heavy bleeding) with my boys and they were fine. Maybe go for an u/s early and see what's going on. There isn't much anyone can do in any case. Bleeding is always scary -- hugs Image

Maria - Dec 30th is so soon! I assume you are taking your estrogen already? Or are you doing a natrual FET? How is your lining looking? Right on track? (Can you move me back up to "trying with IVF"? I'm just waiting for my beta to drop - hopefully this week - so I can start my new cycle)

Laura - your clinic puts a catheter to drain you? I'm supposed to lie down for 30 min post transfer with a full bladder! How awful! I've learned not to completely fill my bladder -- with my first transfer, I had a really full bladder and 10 min after the transfer I got up to pee because I was going to EXPLODE! ---- Great beta number, btw! Image How many days post transfer is that?

Patricia - sorry that AF showed up. That b*tch. Only one more month until you start! You have frozen embryos or will you be doing fresh again?

Tess - still going up? That sucks. I totally understand losing the PMA. I'm crappy company most days, but I put on a brave face. I just found out that an IVF buddy of mine got a miracle BFP (triplets from her first IVF, a miracle pregnancy that ended with full term stillbirth - then 7 failed IVF cycles - now a miracle pregnancy again). I'm super happy for her -- but *I* should be the one due in August. God knows, I'm working hard at it. Ugh. I need to fight the little green-monster.

Shari - I'm so sorry. Image You are limited in how many cycles you can do a year? I've never heard of that before here in Israel. I can do as many as I like (although, I've never tried to do more than 4 in a single year)

Neffi - I'm so sorry. ImageCan you go for a beta early (like now!) to get a definitive 'no' answer? We are also looking into 'foster to adopt' and it's super scary.

Gina - it's so scary to commit so much money to something that doesn't have a guarantee. I hate gambling - and this would feel like the biggest gamble of all! At least you are promised going through with the whole cycle. My doctors have me on an antagonist cycle - I start the stims on CD3 and then add Ganirelix (or Cetrotide) when my follicles reach a certain size (usually after 3-5 days of stimming) and continue until the trigger. The advantage of the antagonist cycle is (1) shorter than the Lupron cycle and (2) if you get too risky to overstim, you can trigger with Lupron. After a Lurpon trigger, you can't transfer embryos (it messes with your lining), but if you get too close to overstim with a Lupron cycle, you can only cancel. No way to get the eggs. PCOS has more risk to overstim, so my doctors do this. I've had great results with it, but I've never tried Lupron, so I can't compare. (We've had a few threads talking about agonist vs antagonist in the past -- try searching for them)

Barbara - glad you have a reason for the spotting and so many women have a placenta previa move before delivery. I totally hear ya though - I was warned that getting pregnant again so soon after my C-section made me much more likely for another C-section -- I don't care!

Amy (kerpupples) - I always feel that way! I always feel so optimistic -- I'm not going to buy a new box of tampons, because I'm not going to need it! I'm going to throw away those last few pills in the BCP pack because I'm not going to need it! I hope this is your last BCP ever too!

Lydia - 7 out of 7? That's amazing! Congrats on being PUPO! Image I can't wait to hear your next POAs adventure! (and I also pee out my trigger... you aren't crazy!) My clinic never tests my e2 again after my last SnS before my trigger. Weird that your clinic does - I've never heard of that.

Bonnie - good luck POAS! I can't decide what is better, POAS or waiting for the blood test. I totally see pros/cons to each -- but I can never wait!

Christy - oy! Holidays in retail - sounds like a horror movie to me :D I'm glad your husband stood up to his family about the ridiculousness of your traveling. I live really far away from my family, and we don't see each other very often, which sucks, but it's just soooo far to travel. We waste half our vacation time just traveling.

AFM - ugh. I thought I had stopped bleeding (no bleeding at all over the weekend) but it seems to have started again - maybe because of our <ahem> activities last night. Ugh. I just want this to be OVER already! I'm dying to start my new cycle.

I'm debating when to get my next blood test. The nice thing about Wednesday is, that if my beta is zero, I can do baseline on Thursday. My clinic is closed Fri/Sat, so if I do my beta on Thursday and it's negative, I have to wait until Sunday.

BUT --- all blood taking labs are open only for 'urgent' things on Wednesday -- all the doctors offices are closed because of Chanukah (only the first day, which is Wednesday). So... is my follow up beta considered "urgent"? If I show up, will they do it? Should I not risk that, and just go a different day? Which different day, Tuesday (when it's more likely not to be zero because it's earlier) or Thursday (when I couldn't start until Sunday)?

I guess I'll go Tuesday.... Fingers crossed that it's super super super low - or even zero!
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-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
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Post by blueeyedreamer » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:38 am

I will be more active for these next couple of weeks because of winter vacation! Thank goodness for that. I think school districts do it so the teachers keep their sanity. I'm so tired! I am looking forward to cleaning and baking. Oh, and I should mention sleeping! I got all of my christmas shopping done for my family on amazon. I'm almost done with DH. I know what he got me because I was present during the purchases. He worries so much that I won't like it so he preferred that it was done this way. I told him he could surprise me with actually getting me a card this year :roll: I would like one that addresses me as wife. It is our first Christmas married! It will be our 4th Christmas together.

I am desperately trying to avoid going to the in-laws for Christmas day. I just really can't take that. My SIL is pitching a fit that we need to be there mostly they don't have to deal with MIL themselves. I don't really care. MIL comes home from rehab on the 23rd. She is doing quite well. She would have been home already if they lived in the US.

They still don't know about the m/c and the last thing I am interested in dealing with on Christmas is that in any way shape or form. DH knows and seems to be respecting that. He is still trying to figure out when to tell. I suggested it should be some time before I will need to be stuffing my clothes.

It also bugs me to go there for Christmas and have dinner just like any other dinner. It's just like any other day but with more food (they will add some western food to the table). They are Buddhist. They celebrate Christmas as a way to get together but it isn't what I was raised with-no tree, no gifts, no typical Christmas celebrations. Their big celebration is the Chinese New Year, which we do attend and it is quite fun. I don't need gifts and that isn't the point. I guess I'm just whiny right now.

Alright, off for now. I still need to get a picture of our tree and mantle.

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Post by leorira11 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:27 am

Nicole - your husband STILL hasn't told your in-laws? How awful! Does your SIL know? I see you changed your signature -- you are starting your FET now? Any idea what the timeline on that is?

COULD THIS WEEK BE ANY LONGER?
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I'm tempted to do a beta today, just because. But I won't... There is a place right near my work where I can do blood tests, so the nurse at the IVF clinic gave me a bunch of undated beta referrals so I can use them now while waiting for beta to reach zero without having to drive all the way out to the IVF clinic. I'm hoarding my undated referrals for beta blood tests -- I'd rather use them during my 2ww! The fewer I use now, the more I have for when I want them. I know my beta is probably not zero yet, I can wait until Tuesday to check. I'm so evil... Image

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-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

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Post by Gina1976 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:49 am

**Venting and supporting Christy!** :)

Christy- Good for your DH!! All the traveling takes a lot out of you! We deal with that all the time too. We have always lived closer to my family than his. Although it was about even when we lived in Ky but still a little closer to mine. Last summer we only had about 2 days with his before moving on. It was because we flew Space A, $7 and landed the closest we could get, Baltimore. I know it's wrong but I always put up a fight when he wants to visit there. I love my In laws but they have never been the Grandparents to get on the ground and play with Michael. Now he's 12 and his Dad stays in pain so he can't now. My MIL never takes days off but maybe 2 out of the week or two we'd be there. They never want to go anywhere with us.

Being in Germany I know it's hard to visit but they could if they wanted. However when we lived in the states they could def have! They did come about 4 times out of the 6 years(not in a row) we lived there. My parents came a lot, and my Mom won't fly so she isn't coming here. I understand that. Don't want her freaking out and jumping out of the plan! lol. My Dad has visited though. His parents. Nope. No one in his family that can easily will either. Heck his cousin and his wife may be coming to Italy this summer and aren't sure if they will make it here?? Really!?

I told him once we are back in the states. They can all come and visit US! Now if we end up in GA or AL I know that's easy for my parents but his can drive down or meet them in the middle. Just don't like every vacation traveling to see someone. We like to go places ourselves. When he retires we'll finally be to go off other than just twice a year which is what Soldiers get...summer leave and winter leave. No more needing passes to get approved either!!

My Mom will ask me before summer vacation, winter vacation, spring break...are ya'll coming? I want to say are you?? lol. I know they miss us but it's expensive to fly during those times especially, around $3k for the three of us. They don't offer to pay for tickets or some and I'm not asking. I told her we are not coming this summer especially if DH's retirement papers are approved. He's trying to save his leave. The more days you have the longer he'll have before needing to start a job! Ugh!! If he do the IVF in the states...there goes 3 weeks! lol

So I completely understand how you feel and I think it's worse when you have a child! lol. Just ready to be done with this! When he's done for good we are having Christmas at OUR HOME! And Thanksgiving and so forth!

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Post by Gina1976 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:52 am

Nicole- They should def be told now. It's going to make things worse expecting a baby is coming. It isn't fair to any of you. I can understand why you don't want to be there though!

Leora- Hang in there!! It isn't far off now! I agree save them for your 2WW! Smart idea! :)

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Re: Fall/Winter Board Combined (Sept2011-Feb2012) This is it

Post by WeHaveHope » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:11 pm

Leora-praying that your Beta drops quickly. I know how frustrating that is all too well.

AFM-thanks for asking. I was on BCP before my D&C and endometrial biopsy. Im on 2 Estrogen Patches right now and go up to 3 patches tomorrow and then 4 patches two days after that. I go for lining check on 12-23 and start PIO on Christmas Day 12-25. IM injections for Christmas, just what I've always wanted. We are leaving for our trip on Christmas night and will return on 12-29. If all goes a's planned, transfer is set for 12-30. I'm pretty numb to this whole process this time. I feel like I'm just going through the motions. I guess it's just a protective mechanism because of all the dissapointments. I had my repeat blood work for the Type II Protein S Deficiency, but the Hematologist is convinced that the first test was accurate. She said that she's never seen a resultthat low that hasn't been a true Protein S Deficiency but repeating the blood work is just part of the protocol. So if an when we get a BFP, the plan is to start Lovenox 40mf SQ Injections daily.
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Post by Neffi211 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:31 pm

9dp5dt--Negative. I have stopped my Viagra and will call RE tomorrow to see if I can stop my meds.....I know they will say to wait until my beta Tuesday but doing the PIO shots for no reason is so awful!!!!!
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