Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

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Re: Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

Post by kynlee » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:57 pm

Jayne- Wow that is awesome # that is your 1st beta right? If so I say twins... :)
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Post by LYD10 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:03 pm

Patricia - I am so sorry about your BFN! It sucks big time. I admire your attitude in dealing with it.

Nicole - I am sorry about your chemical. It's awful!

Jayne - congratulations on great beta! I think it's twins! My beta with twins was about 200 as you can see from my siggy and I also had mild ohss to deal with. That s how I knew I was pregnant :)

Kay - that's a tough choice. I feel for you! I am confident you will make the right decision for you.
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#2 FET DS born
#3 IVF ectopic
#4 FET BFN
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Re: Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

Post by WeHaveHope » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:09 pm

Kay-my heart breaks for you. I am at a loss for words. Please know that I am here for you. I wish there was something I could say or do to make this horrible pain go away. We all love you and are here for you. I will pray that God guides you and provides for you and DH during this very difficult time.

Jayne-Congratulations on such a great Beta !!!
Mrd 11y TTC 8y
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DS14pr mrg
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IUI 12/10 BFN
IVF 1/11 OHSS
FET 5/11 BFN
FET 7/11 MC
FET 9/11 MC46 XY
FET 12-30-11 BFP 15dpo=266,17dpo=727,22dpo=7125,25dpo=19076,1-20 u/s 2HB's. Our 2 little miracles born on 8-15-12@35w/3d
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Post by blueeyedreamer » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:59 am

Kay- I don't even know what to say. My heart aches for you and your dh. This road we are on can be so cruel. I really am at a loss for words. I just wish I could hug you and make it all better.

Ninde- how are you doing?

Jayne- congrats on that awesome beta.

AFM- I'm impatiently waiting for AF to start to finally end this cycle. I'll go for a beta Friday to monitor the drop. I was supposed to go today but couldn't deal with going there. I've had a migraine today that keeps varying in intensity. I am cramping, but my other pg symptoms are mostly gone.

The good news is that my endo surgeon wants to see me before we do anything with our last embryo. Maybe I have more endo that is screwing things up.
Nicole 35, DH 42
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FET 2 BFP twins, M/C 7 weeks.
FET 3 BFP, chemical beta high 81
IVF 4 BFP, chemical beta high 707
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Post by Ninde » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:44 am

Nicole: im doing ok, the angry hormones have set in which im struggling a little with but I'll get there. Im not surprised you couldnt go to the clinic, your migraine sounds awful and with all that's going on waiting for af, dealing with this loss and the possibility of more endometriosis it sounds quite overwhelming. Have you any time to rest?

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Post by jayne321 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:54 pm

Ninde~ I think I will worry every minute until I have a baby in my arms. I have had so many disappointments that I feel like it can't be me with a normal beta/positive test. I completely understand the anger feelings. I remember after my second IVF, I was in target and there was this horrible mom being so mean to her kids and I honestly felt like saying something to her. I was so angry. Life seems so unfair at times.

Kynlee, LYD, and Maria~ Thanks and yes, I am slightly worried about multiple babies. And I know I'm not one of these ladies with high HCHs either because when I was pregnant with my son (and the vanishing twin), I didn't test positive on a HPT until I was 3 or 4 days late. Yikes.

Nicole~ I want to say thank you to you as well for being a cheerleader for me when I know what you are going through. It is not easy. I hope AF comes soon so you can put an end to this misery. When I had my chemical pregnancy, I waited for two weeks for AF with no spotting/bleeding until I was told I would need a D & C. Miserable. I'm really hoping they can help you with the endometriosis so the frozen embryo transfer goes smoothly. You are an amazing woman and have been through so much. Thinking of you.

Kay~ I was thinking of you all night. I am so sorry you're in this position. Very difficult.

AFM~ Just a question, when you get your progesterone checked, do they actually give you a number? My clinic just says it's over 40. I feel toxic on it and wish I could do a smaller dose. I have been tested twice and both times my number is greater than 40 but they say they don't want to reduce it since 1cc is their minimum dose. Next beta tomorrow.
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Jan 08 DS
IUIx3 all BFN
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IVF#1Apr 11 BFP OHSS Low hcg u/s 6w3d; blighted ovum:D&C.
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Post by Waitingkay » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:37 pm

Jayne - It is a very high beta, mine was 267 15 dpo. I knew my progesterone level and it was the high progesterone level that made RE worry we were having twins. But you never know until your U/S, and progesterone higher than 40 is good. I guess you are suffering because you are still having the OHSS, but I really think it will fade away when you are around 6 weeks.

Leora - Thanks for everything you wrote, the problem for us is that 95% of docs we met after the loss don't think the loss was as a result of a cervical issue (even though I had a procedure some years ago. So this makes it hard not to say frustrating that the reason we were told to have the reduction is because of their fear the cervix is involved.

Kynlee - Thanks for your prayers and warm wonderful words as always, you are such a good friend.

To_have_fun - Ethically and emotionally of course we would naturally think not to do the reduction but we don't necessarily feel that it would be emotionally or ethically better to knowingly put both babies in danger after what we heard yesterday. On the contrary, after experiencing 1 late loss the thought of another one and the guilt we would feel - I don't know "which guilt" is "better":(

Nicole - Thank you so much for everything you wrote, you are amazing me, you are so strong and determined! I'm inspired just by listening to you already planning your next steps.

Wehavehope - Thanks for understanding. How weird is feeling so attached to both the small ones when they're just 10 weeks? I made something wrong when I kept on talking to the little one convincing him to grow and catch up with the bigger baby. I should have remembered what this would mean for us.

Lyd - Thank you! Is there a choice in such a case that really feels right - ever?

Andsasha - Thanks, I am truly blessed with all the support I get here I don't know what I would do without it. My husband seems to be dealing better than me this time, maybe because for men it does take longer to bond with the LOs when they're still so little.

Ninde - Thanks for everything you wrote, I do feel more responsible when considering the need for a decision all day long and thinking of all the wonderful women I met on our journey. I don't only consider this decision in terms of us wanting to have twins after such a long time trying and numberless losses, I think of the LOs in terms of babies, not just ours, and how precious they are and that feeling is all the more stronger because of all of you here.

RE called me back, he remembered our birth story and he thinks we should attempt to keep them both with a cerclage. I told him a cerclage was the plan even with a singleton because even though it didn't seem to have anything to do with my cervix nobody knows for sure. He gave me the name of another specialist and said we should at least discuss it with her. He was indecisive and although he understood me totally when I explained my hesitation of having a reduction because of just how terrible a thing it is, he said something from his point of view that I should also try to keep them because it takes so long for us to get pregnant in the first place. I was shocked, I was sure he would immediately say we need to go with reduction. So I'm trying now to schedule a meeting with this other specialist, but i know that even if we chose to try and keep them both - is it really the more ethical thing to do? If she will tell me the same as our MFM from yesterday, I think I also have a responsibility not to risk the life of both babies, while trying to save them both "for our sake" mostly.
Me - 35 (found about APS after PTL)
DH - 34 (0% morph)
10/10 # 1 IVF (ICSI) - chemical
12/10 # 1 FET - chemical
02/11 # 2 IVF (IMSI/ICSI) - BFP - PTL at 22 weeks 5 days
11/11 # 2 FET - BFP - no HB, D&C
02/12 # 3 IVF - BFN
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Re: Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

Post by to_have_fun08 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:54 pm

Jayne - Awesome beta CONGRATS!! did you do a 5dt or a 3dt.. could be twins, can tell more when we see how it doubles.. Good Luck!!

Waitingkay - this is a situation that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. You just have to do what's you feel is right for yourself and your family. ((HUGS))
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Post by kynlee » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:19 pm

Kay- I am glad you are getting to see another specialist, maybe they will have the answer... I will be praying for you and your beans... xxxx


AFM_ confused I had my progesterone checked yesterday and it is only 30 and I am suppose to stop the PIO shots tomorrow, I dont know what to do... Does 30 sound ok to quit the shots? Or should i try to argue it out? I am afraid when I stop the shots I will drop to low... Any advice?
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Post by Waitingkay » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:56 pm

Kynlee - I'm going to write more the minute I can but for now - researches show that here isn't really a direct correlation (during your stage of pregnancy) between the level of progesterone shown on your BW results and the actual situation in your uterus. That said, I'd still ask to continue with the shots - they do good things regardless, and if I could get my hands on them I would...they even ease up the pressure on your cervix! Hugs and thanks for your prayers, I (we) need them. Sending you love and hugs back!!!
Me - 35 (found about APS after PTL)
DH - 34 (0% morph)
10/10 # 1 IVF (ICSI) - chemical
12/10 # 1 FET - chemical
02/11 # 2 IVF (IMSI/ICSI) - BFP - PTL at 22 weeks 5 days
11/11 # 2 FET - BFP - no HB, D&C
02/12 # 3 IVF - BFN
04/12 # 4 IVF - BFN

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Post by WeHaveHope » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:02 pm

Kay-I am glad you. Will be seeing another specialist. Please know that you, DH, and your LO's are in my prayers.
Mrd 11y TTC 8y
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DS14pr mrg
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IUI 12/10 BFN
IVF 1/11 OHSS
FET 5/11 BFN
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Post by LauraN » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:34 pm

Jayne- Congrats on the awesome beta! Totally could be twins or a really solid singleton! Can't wait to hear the next beta. How many betas does your clinic do?

Waitingkay- I am so sorry about the position you are in. I will pray for you and your DH and pray that God gives you the direction to take and give you peace with it.

Blueeyed- it sucks, nothing more can be said but that it sucks.......that is good that you will get checked before your next round with your frosty.

Ninde- I feel for you so bad! I know your heart is hurting and you are such a strong woman.

AFM- So we have 8 frozen embryos. My initial reaction was to quick, let's find the money and do it now.....well, I've calmed down a little and realized that what we have been doing hasn't been working. As some of you know, that I've cycled with before, I am petrified of needles.....like have anxiety attacks scared. I've been told several times to look into acupuncture, but have never seriously considered it. Well, after some soul searching, I made a consultation with a fertility acupuncturist for tomorrow. They won't be poking me tomorrow, only discussing diet recommendations, herb suggestions and then give me a recommendation on how many pokes I need and when they think I would be ready for a FET. I'm scared to death about getting poked by the needles. I'm hoping that if I decide this is a way to go, that I won't freak out and not let them poke me. Anyways, I will keep you posted.
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DS- 20 & 18 (previous marriage)
IVF#1- Aug 2011-Chemical/MC at 4 1/2 weeks
IVF#2- Dec 2011- M/C at 8w1d
IVF#3- April 2012- BFN
IVF#4- Aug 2012 DE 8/17 ET, beta 8/31- BFN(have 8 frosties)
FET#1-March 11,2013, beta 3/22-

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Post by Pocos » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:41 pm

Jayne – Congratulations!! So happy for you!

WaitingKay – I think I would look for a second opinion as well, specially after you heard that you would need a reduction, then you hear that you wont need it, it can be confusing. Praying for you.

Kynlee – I think you should ask them to be sure. I have no ideas what the numbers fro progesterone are supposed to be at 12 weeks, its better to ask to be sure.

Nicole – Happy you are seeing your endo surgeon before doing your FET! Good luck!

AFM – My cycles are usually 28-30 days, and I am on my 32nd day today. Last month my period arrived before the BETA and now its late (this has never happened to me)I wonder if it is because of the failed IVF, the hormones could still be in my system? Although I had failed cycles before and AF didn’t arrive late. Any of you had longer cycles after a failed IVF? Thanks ladies.
Me: 31-PCOS, endometriosis, adhesions, abnormal blood flow to the uterus, rare cystic fibrosis mutation)
DH: 43-1% normal sperm
TTC since Feb 2010
3 failed IUIs
3 failed IFVs
April 2013: Laparoscopy to remove endo & adhesions
Sept 2013: Natural BFP!

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Re: Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

Post by andsahsa » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:18 pm

jayne321 wrote:And the number is 305. Any thoughts?
That looks like an awsome number to me!!! :D

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DH - 34
DD 18- Prev M
DS 15 - Prev M
DD 7 - Adopt - my husbands 2nd cousin
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TR - 9/06
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Post by kynlee » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:54 pm

LauraN- I think that is a great plan, I never did accupucture but have heard great success stories from it and also that it didnt hurt :) Good luck

Kay- Thanks Girl, I tried to talk Dr into letting me get a refill and he said NO my body is above what it should be they like to see it around - 15-20 and mine is 30 so he said my placenta is full force now and I dont need the meds :( So I am moving away from the needles Friday please keep us in your prayers, I know God is know all the medication I need and my trust is in him with the rest of my pregnancy :) I have been thinking about you all day, I wont stop praying for our beans till the day we deliver :) huge hugs
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