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Postby babyhope1 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:21 am

Spoiler Alert:

Yes Tiger, I read that article also, it said something like he proposes to Melissa, she says yes. Then from November to January every other weekend they (she) flew up to see him. Meanwhile every other weekend he was seeing his "real" fiance Molly.

Then he officially dumps Melissa on the "after the final rose" taping in January (which goes along with your thoughts on him answering if he is engaged and the answer being "no" prior to January.) and reveals he is engaged to Molly or else proposes to her on the show. Most dramatic, goodness!!!

Can you imagine, by then you know they are being affectionate with each other...to have your fiance be cheating on you...or being the girl who knows your fiance is cheating on her? Or, getting back with the guy who dissed you to begin with, the whole thing is wrong. I am a bit upset and am bracing myself for the finale. I felt so empty at the Bachelor "Brad" finale, I didn't see that comming. I guess better then than a few months later.

Can't wait for Monday night!
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Postby hrobinson » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:42 pm

Okay if all this is true, I am very upset. I don't think it is fair to either girl that it happened that way. While I wanted him with Melissa, I really don't think it will work with either one of them.
What a slap in the face. It really makes me look at him differently:(
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Postby CT_Michele » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:28 pm

I know if this is all true (which we will find out soon), then it makes perfect Jason look bad, but it will really depend on how he handles the situation and why he realizes he made a mistake. What if he truly thought things would work out with Melissa and her parents reject the relationship. I know that I could not be with someone without full support from both families, family is too important. In that situation, I would be suprised Molly would even want him after being rejected at the final rose.

And how long after the rose does he change his mind? Is it almost immediate, or did he try melissa for a little while and then go back to Molly? In that situation, if I were Molly, I would still not want him back, because we all know what "trying" probably involved.

In any case, let's not jump to hating him just yet. Maybe for once, he is the one bachelor who realizes his mistake and wants to make it right, and he may come out of this looking good. Maybe he realized Melissa just wasn't right for Ty, and that would make any parent rethink the situation.

So, in other reality shows-

I watched the race last night, and was annoyed by the asian siblings, well the brother to be exact. I was so frustrated he would not listen to his sister. I would have been so mad at him if I were in that situation. And as far as the couple who went home, I felt bad for them, because they truly went home due to circumstances they could not control. I am still routing for Luke (deaf son) and his mom.

I did watch the celebrity apprentice- and I was mad because my dvr stopped recording right before he fired someone. I had to look up online who got fired, and I was glad it was Andrew Dice Clay. I don;t like arrogant, sexist men, who think they are better than everyone else. He kept bringing up what a huge celebrity he is, but I don't know him, so he can't be that huge! Dennis Rodman could have done a better job. I think my opinions about some of these celebrities might be changed over the course of this show, Joan Rivers seems like a sweetheart even though I never thought that about her before, I have always liked tboz and tom green so I am sure I will route for them, and I think I am going to like scott hamilton who just seems like such a happy and nice person, and Jesse James, who I know nothing about. He seems pretty honest and down to earth.

Still not too much to say about survivor- I still do not like coach and hope he goes soon. I think by next week I might have some favorites, I can't remember their names now.

Whew- Thats a lot of reality stuff, well, bachelor will be over this week as other shows keep starting. Oh, one more thing about the bachelor, I know they hinted towards Jillian as the next bachelorette, but if Melissa really gets dumped, she will become the new DeAnna- and what I mean by that is America will feel really bad for her and want her to be the next one. I think abc would really want her too, but it may come down to whether or not they can get her family to participate...what do you guys think?

I can't wait to see...but my poor husband is mad, 3 hrs tonight, plus another night tomorrow, all I could say to him is "but then it is over."
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Postby esperanza » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:37 pm

so, what does everyone think about last night's Bachelor drama? I was shocked :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: AND I was hoping Molly would say "no" OR at least give him a hard time with something like "we'll see!" "I'm not sure"...hmmmm. I felt bad for Melissa, to be dumped like that on national tv, hurtful, and embarrassing.
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Postby NY4thtry » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:27 am

i dont even watch the show.. but happened to see it last night...

I think this guy must be a maladjusted loser... i feel terrible for his little boy.. and for the girl he decided to ed up with.. i hope she figures it out... soooner rather than later
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Postby hrobinson » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:48 am

Oh my gosh!!! I have been seething all day long (and night). So, I guess what everyone heard in advance about Jason ending up with Molly was correct. Then, Michelle tried to say, let's give him a chance. However, after last night....I was glad that Melissa called him a *******. That is exactly what he is.
I read somewhere that what actually happened, was that Jason was always going to go ith Molly, however, ABC came to him and begged him to pick Melissa and then they would have this grand "After the Rose" ceremony. They needed a boost in ratings. So, he agreed. However, after a few months and seeing that Melissa was falling hard for him he had to call it off.
Not sure if I believe that or not. Either way he is a total *******.
AND I cannot believe, if it wasn't planned, how quickly Molly took him back. Melissa is hardly out the door and Jason and Molly are making out. I was mortified. I am not sure I will watch another season of this. That was not fair to Melissa at all.
Thumbs down to ABC :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby CT_Michele » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:43 am

ok, I was thinking the same angry thoughts last night, but I had to see all sides of it. I taped Jimmy kimmel live so I could see what Jason had to say for himself.

He said that none of it was a setup, it was all his real life. What he did say was that him and melissa were not together last night, she knew all of this before going on after the rose, but that abc made it happen this way because he agreed, good or bad, to air his relationship. Jason even said there was discussion before the taping of after the rose of whether or not melissa should wear the ring because they were already broken up.

So I do believe melissa is upset and angry, and I do feel badly for her, but everything we saw last night I think was mostly scripted or acted with melissa. I do believe that molly did not know and her reaction seemed real, complete shock. I agree HRobinson- I am suprised she was so quick to take him back. I think I would have to think twice about someone who rejected me on national tv.

I know everyone wants to be mad at jason, but I think he did the right thing. I think he should have picked molly from the start, and all of this could have been avoided, but he, like almost every other bachelor, chose wrong. I give him credit for realizing his true feelings instead of stringing melissa along. I don;t think it was appropriate for Jason and Molly to kiss though. I am sure there was much more time than a commercial break between the 2 girls, but still, he should have known it would make him look bad.

I think Melissa will be offered to be the next bachelorette as long as her family agrees to participate, if not, I think it will be jillian. I do think Jason and Molly will last, I thought they were awesome together, and I hope on Part 2 tonight, that Jason gets to clear the air a little.

I am curious to see what will happen tonight. All I know is Jason might go down in the record books for the quickest decline from being the most adored man in america to the most despised.
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Postby hrobinson » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:54 pm

CT-Michelle- You are such a kind, caring individual. I am still having horrible thoughts for and about Jason. No matter how you look at it, I really think what he did to Melissa ON NATIONAL TV was horrible. She may have known it was over (which seeing her come out Monday night, you knew she knew), but all the other Bachelors made it more of a private thing. I don't think he and Melissa ever would have lasted, but still.......

I do hope he and Molly make it forever. I did love Molly, she was an awesome girl. However, I did not feel being a mother came naturally to her. She was not as good to/for Tye as was Melissa.

I just think Jason is a horrible Man. I will admit that I did not watch last night, so I am not sure what happened with that. I didn't even watch Biggest Loser....too tired. Will probably watch them this weekend.


Amazing Race- I was laughing my tail off with the asian brother/sister group. I felt so bad for the girl, she knew what she was talking about, but she had to fight for what she believed in.
I hated the couple that got voted off....they seemed like such a great couple. I was hoping all the way to the end that they would be able to pull it off.

Survivor- I know what you mean about Coach. He is a total loser. However, I understand his feelings about how they are performing. My dh is a coach and would probably react the exact same way that Coach did. I am hoping something big changes, or the one team will continue losing until there is no one left.
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Postby tigersuz22 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:23 pm

Hi everyone!

I wasn't shocked by what happened on the Bachelor but I was shocked HOW it happened. I thought Jason did a really poor job of explaining his reasons. I definitely understand that its' a stressful situation, you get swept up, and it isn't impossible to fall in love with two people at the same time. But if you're still on the fence right before you're about to see the two women - why propose???? Why even put that kind of pressure out there if you're not sure? And his only response was that at that moment, it felt right. Can you imagine what would happen if we all threw caution to the wind and just did what we felt like when the moment feels right??

Being a father and what I thought was a responsible, respectful man, I was really disappointed. I thought Melissa's reaction was pretty accurate. And I don't blame Molly for getting back together with him - I do think they're a good couple. But I can't imagine that's going to bode well for their future - what an awful start to the relationship! And poor Ty! I wonder how much interaction he had with Melissa while they were still together. After all, they spent the holidays together - that has to be confusing for him.

I didn't watch the end of the Biggest Loser - I keep falling asleep! I'm planning to catch up tonight. Who remembers life before DVR???
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Postby CT_Michele » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:00 pm

Tiger- I completely agree with you about not proposing. If he wasn't sure, he should not have proposed. I think abc puts a lot of pressure on them, I mean, they obviously get a gorgeous free engagement ring and it is the perfect setting for the most romantic proposal ever. I was engaged before meeting my husband and it didn't work out, so sometimes people are swept up in the euphoria of engagement, but he has been through this twice before, so should have been more cautious this time.

I watched the part 2, and they seemed very happy. I think some of the girls who came back from the season were ticked and wanted melissa to be the one. Melissa did not participate in part 2. They did announce the next bachelorette and it is Jillian, I think she will be good, I am sure I will watch it.

I am so mad at the biggest loser. I hate when shows do an unexpected "to be continued." My guess is that they reached their goal as a team and no one will be sent home, but maybe not. I thought it was awesome of mike to give away his grocery prize, it makes me want to route for him so much more. I am really starting to notice all of the differences now. They showed some clips last night of when they first arrived on the ranch and I can't believe the difference in 9 weeks.

American idol- I just want to say that I can not believe they are giving Tatiana another chance. All I can do is pray she will not make it into the top 12, I find her really annoying. And Jorge needs to get his eyebrows done, I like his singing, but was very distracted by his eyebrows. My favorite so far is still Danny Gokey from week one, but I like Lil Rounds from last night too.

HR- Thanks for thinking I am a kind person for not having bad thoughts about jason. I thought you guys would hate me for my opinion. I guess I find it hard to hate him because I liked him so much last season with deanna and just think he deserves to be happy. Kinda like Stephanie from this season, I don;t know if she could do anything for me to dislike her.

Ok, survivor tonight, should be interesting, oh, and I think idols are tonight too, the 8 wildcards sing, but I have no idea how it is going to work. I looked ahead at my guide and there is no more idol until next tuesday when the top 12 sing, so how is the vote working? Will the judges poick the 3 wildcard winners tonight, or will america vote and they will be revealed tuesday before everyone sings? I don't know, I am confused. I guess we will see.
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Postby CT_Michele » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:02 pm

ok, I know the bachelor ended, but I also know alot of you are watching other reality shows, so let's see if we can keep this going!

Dancing with the stars starts tonight, and it is rumored that Melissa from the bachelor is taking over for one of the injured contestants. I am curious to see if that is true. Do any of you watch dancing with the stars?

I watched Race and apprentice last night. I was dissappointed in luke/mom's decision to uturn the team for the benefit of another team. I could see doing it if you are in danger, but I think they will have backlash from that decision, and I liked the couple that came in last because of it. I was sad to see them go.

The apprentice- man Tom green was annoying, but he was totally right about the name. It was all scott's fault and I think the right person got fired. I just know that Tom is really going to have to redeem himself next week and from the previews I don;t know if that will happen.

Survivor- I watched on thursday and I already forgot what happened. I do like the secret exile alliance though, I hope it works out for them. I think sandy, the old lady got voted off, and I think that was the right decision for the team, although I think sydney, the blonde, is more of a threat.

Idols- top 12 this week. I am so glad tatiana did not make it in the wildcard round.

Ok, hope I still have some reality fans with me, I really enjoyed this thread and hope it still continues, I wish I could change the title to attract some more people, but I don;t think I can.
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Postby hrobinson » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:43 pm

I am so glad you are keeping this thread going.
I do not watch Dancing with the Stars, so you will have to let us know if Melissa did in fact take over. I think Melissa will be on several shows here in the near future.

Survivor was pretty good this past week. I do think they made the best choice for them. However, I do think they should have gotten rid of the brunette who just isn't fitting in with them right now. I can't say there is really anyone that I am so drawn to to win the whole thing yet. Not like seasons past.

Amazing Race- OMG!!!!! I could not believe Luke and mom did the blind u-turn. That was just cruel. The thing of it is, everyone will find out who did it and I think it will bite them in the butt's here pretty quickly. I don't think they used it wisely. The first time is never the time to use it.
I felt the people who they u-turned though, handled it really well. I was hoping it wouldn't be a kick off night. I was disappointed to see them go already:(

Didn't make it through apprentice, so I will watch that tonight to see what happened.

Biggest Loser- I can't wait to see what happens with the weigh in. I am guessing someone from both team goes....thought I could be totally wrong. The web site was also talking about the next challenge and it sounds really interesting.

Have not been faithfully watching American Idol. Though I heard Tatiana didn't make it through, which I am so glad about.

I cannot wait for Big Brother to start this summer (hopefully). I think that is my favorite REality show.

Hope everyone is doing well.
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Postby babyhope1 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:05 am

Dancing with the Stars-I watch it, I think I am a bigger fan of the dancers than the "stars" I don't even know who some of them are. Perhaps I have heard their name but don't know what they did or what they look like etc. Its great to see their real persoanlities however and not what they are on television etc. Melissa from the Bachelo is on there! She did really well.

American Idol-interesting, I think I am starting to lean away from it however, its the same coments and "types" of performers. I always fall asleep, gosh, what is up with these two hour reality shows that start at 8pm?

Biggest Loser-OMG! What happened to the black team? They knew they were being followed by the cameras, whos idea was the tequila shots anyway, sorry but that totally wouldn't tempt me, I know they needed to blow off steam but goodness. Now what about the young man, is he even old enough to drink? Poor guy had to hang out with drunk adults all night, they never really showed him living it up like the others. I can't believe they did it all however, you know the eating thing would be there but the drinking, smoking, drunk snacking...goodness, show some self control!!! I was shocked.
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Postby CT_Michele » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:17 am

Babyhope- I agrre about liking some of the dancers more than the stars. They have all become stars since the show has gotten so popular. I am suprised to see melissa there and she did awesome, it has to be her background as a pro cheerleader, she can get the choreography quick and has dance training. I like steve-o, think he will make the show interesting.

I am watching idols, even though it will probably be slow for the next couple of weeks until they weed out all the bad ones. I still really like danny gokey (the widow) and adam (rocker/goth kid) is really good. I think those 2 will go far.

Biggest loser- I can't believe they partyed it up like that either! But the scale totally reflected it. Alcohol is a big no no on a diet, I think they could have cheated a bit with the food, but the alcohol is the worst. It was sad to see the sisters have to choose between each other.

hrobinson- big brother is one of my favorites too. I didn;t know it was coming back this summer, but now I am excited for it.

I hope to watch survivor tomorrow, but I have to see how I am feeling, I have my polyp removal in the morning, so I may be sleepy from anesthesia, but I will definitely watch it by friday so I can chat with you guys about it.

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Postby babyhope1 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:36 pm

CT_Michele - I had the polyp removal surgery in October. It was scary as hell but not that bad when it was all said and done, minimal pain. I had complete anesthesia, nothing like my IVF with more of a "twilight" during ER. I woke up much faster then. However, waking up was the hard part, you are just soo sleepy.

They gave me vicadin but I didn't use it past the first day. I felt awesome that first day, my DH said it was because of the drugs. There was the Dr, the surgical asst, the anestist, nurse etc. all the people made it scary, they wheeled me into the surgery room which was freezing, I was shaking scared but the operating bed was heated! I recovered very well and did IVF thereafter, imagine if I had never known the issue and continued TTC with polyps, it may have never worked so I am grateful I had it done.
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