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Re: New

Postby Waitingkay » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:15 am

Hello all,

Amanda - I hope your back is better, it really isn't easy with bed rest. Miss you here!!! Waiting anxiously for your news.

rph - so good to hear from you again!
Telling the family was quite an issue for us. Since DH's family is very big and mine really isn't, I generally told my mom we were having problems but didn't specify. Telling my DH's family was a totally different thing though. Because the physical problem was only his there was some embarrassment on his side. Although I didn't feel good knowing that his grandparents were awaiting their first great grandchild and wondering what's wrong (prolly assuming it's me cause "it''s always the woman"), I chose to look at it as a couple's problem not his, and agreed to not telling because the positive aspect of this was that then I didn't have to face the pressure of THEIR expectations, of what THEY were thinking of listening to their advices, because ppl always have so many advices on everything. After going through the IVF round in October though, we came to the point we felt like we had to tell them. When I tested my HCG levels (Beta HCG the "implantation" or pregnancy hormone) we knew immediately the pregnancy was not okay because the number was very low, and combined with my other hormonal values it was obvious it was chemical. RE instructed me to repeat the blood work every other day but instead of just dissolving properly the hormone sometimes went up, sometimes down - there was even suspicion of an ectopic. After several weeks when suddenly it went up again, we were instructed to go to Emergency for an assisted (syringe given) m/c. At that point DH wanted us to tell his family, and I went along with it. Because of the long time of TTC and because of our age, they assumed of course there was SOMETHING going on. I honestly don't know if it helped in any way to do tell them, I think at that moment it was a relief for DH so it was worth it. Eventually, lucky for us, two days afterwords my HCG levels dropped to less than 2, and it ended naturally. So I don't know how it is for you, what kind of connection you have with the two sides of the family etc...
Anyhow about tomorrow!!! I'm crossing my fingers for you! I wish Amanda will be here during the day, she just had her ER and can add to my view that it really isn't so bad! I experienced almost no pain afterwords, and whatever was disappeared before leaving the clinic 2 hours after the procedure. Plus!!! You will finally see the good results for everything you went through.

Dee - my 3'd injection went much better too, and I feel much better this morning.

Kamina - Now I see about the special diet...well, if you must then the positive aspect is that you won't be getting any MORE junk in, except for the hormones. Which is great. Maybe I should too get a restriction since all I did the last two days was eating chocolate and cookies. Like you, I'm a sweet tooth :lol:

K
Me - 35 (found about APS after PTL)
DH - 34 (0% morph)
10/10 # 1 IVF (ICSI) - chemical
12/10 # 1 FET - chemical
02/11 # 2 IVF (IMSI/ICSI) - BFP - PTL at 22 weeks 5 days
11/11 # 2 FET - BFP - no HB, D&C
02/12 # 3 IVF - BFN
04/12 # 4 IVF - BFN
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Re: New

Postby Trusting » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:34 pm

HI ladies,

Life has been a little hectic I am trying to catch up on my two classes that I am taking in college toward finishing my bachelor degree in Accounting, I will have three more classes after these two and I didn't want to overlaod myself while going through this. This is my catch up weekend since I go back to work and classes tomorrow. My back is much better now that i can stand up and strech out! I went to Church this morning with my pregnant friend who really tries to be positive and uplifting but she got pregnant on accident and just doens't understand how difficult this entire process is. I feel like I have been more emotional in the last 3 days than during all of this, I know that the Lord has a perfect plan for me I just wish I knew if that included being a mommy!!! I promised myself and hubby that I would not test before Friday 4th and I'm not going to it will just make me even more emotional. When I went for my lab check on Friday they told me my estradoil was still over 3000 and that my estrogen was 148???? like I know what that is suppose to mean???? They did tell me that I was to start taking the prometrium pills orally twice aday and I am still doing my delestrogen and progesterone shots in the evening with three 300mg progesterone suppositories everyday. I haven't really felt anything, seemed like some mild cramping but nothing really to mention, so I don't know and I'm trying to focuse on everyting else I need to get done but it is really hard!

rph- I wish you many blessings tomorrow and that all your follicles are mature. You will be relieved once they are out and the next step is in sight are you doing a 3-day or 5-day transfer? The ER isn't anything to be worried about you will be more worried about the eggs being mature than you will be about the discomfort from the ER. I think the most stressful parts of this process is the time waiting to see how many are mature and how many fertilize and then of course the 2WW!!!!

K and Dee- glad injecting is going well and I will continue to cheer you both on!!!! K-especially glad DH is home for at least a few days it does the heart good to be with our love!

Kamina-hoping all is well!

Loupylou- HI!

Trusting
Me= 34 Endo
DH= 37 Low, Morph
TTC= 7 years
Chlomid= 2 BFN
TI w/Repronex= 2 BFN
IVF #1= BFN
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Re: New

Postby Dee24 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:50 am

Hey Yall

Im like Trusting in college trying to catch up on my school stuff before my ER comes up..I did my 4 th injection tonight and it was the best one so far and I didnt even scream:-).... Im heading for an U/S in the morning so they can give me a date for my ER>>> I pray its Wed... or Thurs.. keep prayers going up. Thanks RPH>>>> for the info on the injections.... i had a sharp pain in the middle of my chest last night only lasted a short sec but kindy scary.... I would love to sleep again.. maybe soon... i miss it...Good Luck tomorrow on ur ER!!! Let us know how it goes...be thinking of you!!!! Everyone in my family knows and very supportive some of my friends can not understand but thats ok,,, we do and thats all that matters!
I think of you gals often and glad I have this to share my worries, and stress and I pray happiness with!.... talk to yall tomorrow!!!! BTW>>> where is everyone from????
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Re: New

Postby rph » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:05 am

So do you think it's the drugs that are keeping us from sleeping, or is it the excitement/nervousness/stress of this whole thing?

Tomorrow's the day.....I'm nervous mostly about if we'll have eggs, and if they'll fertilize, and if we'll get pregnant, blah blah blah, but also I get freaked out about stupid things like: what if I fart when I get put out? Honestly, why do I care about these things? And then I'm worried because I'm not going to do progesterone shots (but thankful)--only suppositories. So many different ways to do this!

DH really wants to tell people and he told his mother (who had to go pick up some medicine for me), and my sister went through this so I told her, but....I guess I'm private. I go back and forth as to if we should tell or not.

K-
What a horrendous ordeal to have to endure WEEKS of fluctuating levels. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
But for now, grow eggs grow!

Amanda-
I tried to look up the lab tests and I couldn't find anything either :( It's so confusing! Glad you are up and about. I don't think people can understand what it's like to go through this unless they've had to do it themselves....we were out with (pregnant) friends who were complaining it took them a whole THREE MONTHS to get pregnant and last time they landed on the first try--yeah, really rough guys. Hopefully we will do a day 5 transfer, but if we don't have many embryos it will be a day 3. Does day 3 mean, like, if you do the ER on Monday, is day 3 Wednesday or Thursday?

Dee-

Grow eggs grow!! I live in California.

Kamina-
What is the special diet? I had an ice cream cone AND bread pudding today....I feel sick. I enjoyed it at the time though!

Loupylou-
Hi

Sending all of you wonderful thoughts!!!!!!!!!
"Unexplained" Infertility
4 failed IUI's
---1 natural (2 follicles)
---1 clomid (3 follicles)
---1 clomid (1 follicle)
---1 injectable (4 follicles)
IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2: Starting NOW + growth hormone
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Re: New

Postby Trusting » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:56 pm

rph- hoping for good news my ER was on Fri had ET on Mon and so i guess yours would be on thursday since they r taking them today.

Praying for Mature eggs and all to fertilize!
Have wonderful day everyone!
Amanda-living in Clarksville, Tn but from Columbus, Ohio Go Buckeyes!
Me= 34 Endo
DH= 37 Low, Morph
TTC= 7 years
Chlomid= 2 BFN
TI w/Repronex= 2 BFN
IVF #1= BFN
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Re: New

Postby rph » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:18 am

So we had 8 eggs retrieved, but their quality was "concerning". I guess we'll find out more tomorrow. I'm a little upset to hear my eggs didn't look so hot, but they didn't have much to tell us. The procedure wasn't too bad--have some cramping and stuff--hope I can make it through work. I stand up all day and it's too late to call in now!

Sending you all good thoughts.
"Unexplained" Infertility
4 failed IUI's
---1 natural (2 follicles)
---1 clomid (3 follicles)
---1 clomid (1 follicle)
---1 injectable (4 follicles)
IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2: Starting NOW + growth hormone
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Re: New

Postby Trusting » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:41 pm

Where is everyone? hope all is going well for all!


rph,

I will be praying that you will have some grade A quality eggs that will fertilize perfectly!
Wow, you are a strong woman I didn't even think about working the day after the ER, I hope your days goes fast and you can get home and get some well earned rest!

Blessing and prayers your way,
Amanda
Me= 34 Endo
DH= 37 Low, Morph
TTC= 7 years
Chlomid= 2 BFN
TI w/Repronex= 2 BFN
IVF #1= BFN
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Re: New

Postby Dee24 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:07 am

RPH

Praying for you chick!!!!! It only takes one good egg....think positive.... sorry to hear about you having to go to work... I hope you are doing well... I went yesterday for] U/s and they moved my medication up a dose...said that the medication is working but they would like to see more action:( ..... im very moody....and not sleeping and craving ice cream....what the heck????? i go back Thurs Fri Sat n Sun... they think Sun is my day... im doing PGD... so my eggs will not be back in until 5days..... so looking at friday...... i am ready to get this over with..... :-)

Talk to yall later and have a great day
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Re: New

Postby rph » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:28 am

Where did everyone go??

So, this morning they told us that no eggs fertilized. Then I got a call at 1pm saying that 2 eggs had blastospheres which means they haven't fertilized yet but might, and 2 of my eggs that were not mature are now mature and they did ICSI with those today. So basically, we still don't know much, but there is some hope.....so please, if you believe in prayers or energy or anything of the like, please send some toward making our embryos grow. It was hard to keep it together at work, but I think probably better so I didn't just sit and wallow. I'm pretty upset, but I'm trying to hold onto hope that tomorrow will bring better news.

Amanda-
Thanks for the prayers I need them! I'm counting down the days to your pregnancy test with you...

Dee-
Sunday is coming soon! I know the mood swings are rough, but indulge in some ice cream and perhaps you'll feel better :) Can I ask how you guys decided to do the PGD? I feel like I'm not making many decisions and just doing whatever the RE tells me....
"Unexplained" Infertility
4 failed IUI's
---1 natural (2 follicles)
---1 clomid (3 follicles)
---1 clomid (1 follicle)
---1 injectable (4 follicles)
IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2: Starting NOW + growth hormone
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Re: New

Postby Waitingkay » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:34 pm

Hi ladies,

Sorry I've been busy, but I was feeling much better and tried to stay active as much as I could to take my mind off things.

Dee - how are you feeling? If I understand correctly we have totally different protocols since I think I won't be having my ER in less than two and a half weeks. Hope you're feeling well and am waiting for your good news!

Amanda - How are you dealing with the coming end of your 2WW? I would refrain to testing too soon for a couple of reasons - though maybe others would disagree. If you took trigger shots right before ER, those can still leave traces of HCG and therefore give a false positive even as late as 14dpo. Another thing is that HPTs tend very often to give false negatives (if not positives due to triggers) for such early testers like IVF girls. As an example, both my trials I actually WAS pregnant but the HPTs showed that I wasn't because the beta was very low. Betas are low when tested early also in completely normal pregnancies, and all one should care for is that they double every 48 to 72 hours. A woman not going through IVF and not trying particularly to conceive (an Oops lady) wouldn't normally take an hpt until some days not getting AF. So - I am SO crossing my fingers for you and so wishing that whenever and however you do test the answer will be the one we're all praying for you.

Rph - I don't know what happened since you wrote, of course we pray for you. I know I am. We all want it so badly for you because we truly understand. I hope for the best of news and want to let you know I'm here to listen and share in the future also when you're already gonna be a mom!

Kamina - what's up girl? Are you alright? Miss you here!

Take care, thinking of you all from afar!
Kay
Me - 35 (found about APS after PTL)
DH - 34 (0% morph)
10/10 # 1 IVF (ICSI) - chemical
12/10 # 1 FET - chemical
02/11 # 2 IVF (IMSI/ICSI) - BFP - PTL at 22 weeks 5 days
11/11 # 2 FET - BFP - no HB, D&C
02/12 # 3 IVF - BFN
04/12 # 4 IVF - BFN
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Re: New

Postby Dee24 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:45 pm

hey Yall
RPH- Girl Im sending prayers up for you!!!!!! and I have a friend prayering for you to sista!!! Keep having faith and never stop!!! God has a plan for you!!! We did PGD because my DH has a issue with one of his chromesomes..number 21:( that one keeps us from getting pregnant and higher risk of miscarriages...and this way we can tell which one might not need to go back in. We really prayed about this and felt that God moved us to do this...so that is the journey im on.... still taking injects...now im up to 6 and 2 in one shot.... :-( but whatever I have to do...

Kay--- I guess we are different path right now but that ok...we will both have us a baby on the way soon....
Im feeling pretty good today i got out n went to the mall , retail therapy always makes me smile:)
im trying to stay busy...still not sleeping and still craving icecream!!!

Hey girls..
Any of yall have a facebook??? if not or you dont know what it is....look up www.facebook.com its a great way to chat, I have one..... let me know who has one and i send you my user name to find me!!!

Talk to ya later
Dee-)
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Re: New

Postby Waitingkay » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:08 pm

Hi Dee,

I'm on FB and would love to put names to faces:)

I didn't write anything about PGD before. Actually since both embryo transfers I had implanted to then turn chemical, RE explained he suspected some chromosomal issues in the sperms. But when I offered PGD he dismissed me (sounded like he thought I was stupid to even mention it and said it was only for DISEASES such as CF that we knew we couldn't give our kids cause at least I am not a carrier). Eventually this is why and how RE suggested IMSI saying it was enough with a good magnitude to select the better sperms and improve the chances of ICSI. It's a wonderful thing you get the chance for PGD...such a feeling of assurance afterwards I guess and hope. I'm not feeling for ice cream, yet every tea hour becomes tea and biscuits, chocolate, then whatever's sweet and in the fridge:( Not good enough with the lazy fit-ball work out I did today. But like you, I feel fine and so much better than how I was physically during the same stage at IVF # 1.

Today SIL said something so incredibly sensitive (she always amazes me). She just asked straight out, "Why don't you use a sperm donor?" :twisted:

Prayers and thoughts to you all from afar,
K
Me - 35 (found about APS after PTL)
DH - 34 (0% morph)
10/10 # 1 IVF (ICSI) - chemical
12/10 # 1 FET - chemical
02/11 # 2 IVF (IMSI/ICSI) - BFP - PTL at 22 weeks 5 days
11/11 # 2 FET - BFP - no HB, D&C
02/12 # 3 IVF - BFN
04/12 # 4 IVF - BFN
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Re: New

Postby Dee24 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:07 am

Kay.... I love love the devil face after that comment... I would have felt the same way chick!!!! Dont let her get to you...if you let her get you upset thats one minute in your life you cant get back.... what a waste right...lol that was not nice n im sorry.... hey im going to send you a private message with my real name and maybe you can find me on face book... send me urs too!!!

Ladies.. if you have facebook let me know:-)
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Re: New

Postby Trusting » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:05 am

Hello All,

I was so hoping to see a good news post from rph by now we are still praying that those two that matured fertilized!!!! I know it is so very stressful to just be waiting for them to call!!
Dee what are you going to school for if you said already I missed it?
Glad the day is almost over for me and only one more full day left until I find out, yahoo!!!!
Kay glad you have had a few days of high energy and got some things done those days are few and far between on these cycles at least for me they were/are!
My emotions are really high and I don't know if I want to laugh or cry most of the time everything I read says that this is when my Beta would be on the rise along with my emotions but this would also be the case if my period was coming so I don't know!!!! My friend and I went to church service at 6 and we were supposed to be back so I could do my shot by 7:15 and she says hey lets just stop by this restuarant I like so I can get something to go and they were packed so it took 45 minutes and then we didn't make it back home until after 8:15 and you know how our minds work when it comes to all this stuff they say do everything within an hour everday of the same time so I always do my shot between 6:30 and 7:30 and I didn't do it tonight until allmost eight thirty and it's not that I think that will cause me not to be pregnant it is just the principle if my friend told me that she had to be back by a certain time I would not do anything that would make her run late for something especially not something this important! Maybe it is just my hormones????

Hope all is progressing well for everyone!
Blessings, Amanda
Me= 34 Endo
DH= 37 Low, Morph
TTC= 7 years
Chlomid= 2 BFN
TI w/Repronex= 2 BFN
IVF #1= BFN
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Re: New

Postby rph » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:35 am

Update: The 2 that were immature fertilized today--if all goes well we'll be putting them back in on Friday. They aren't going to check them tomorrow (don't want to move them), and they'll give us a call Friday morning if it's a yay or nay. Odds aren't as good since the eggos matured outside of my body--they aren't as strong--but we still have a chance! Please keep the prayers/good energy coming--I am sending them out to all of you! This has all been more difficult than I anticipated; none of us expected to end up here, did we?

Kay-

I think staying active helps! I can see it both ways (taking it easy), but for me I have to stay busy or I start to feel sorry for myself, and then I feel guilty for feeling sorry for myself because I have so many wonderful things in my life, and then I feel worse--awesome cycle. I hope you were doing FUN things! I still want to punch your SIL in the face. Seriously, someone needs to have a talk with her. Is she stupid, or is she intentionally hurting you? Or both? Arrgh :x

Dee-
I have these huge hormone swings and then become convinced I need new clothes, or shoes, or something and I feel a ton better :) I haven't been allowed to exercise for what seems like forever (a few months)--that's how I used to relieve stress. Now I have to replace that with shopping. Oh, and I bought a whole package of those chocolate drumsticks for my freezer at work and I've been having them everyday. I LOVE ice cream!

Amanda-
Yippee! One day I can't believe it! Sorry you got home late for the shot--I'm sure therapeutically it won't matter at all but I understand you getting upset.

Ladies, it really helps having you all to vent to! I'm on facebook--just please don't mention anything about IVF cycle stuff--I haven't told people and want to keep it private.
"Unexplained" Infertility
4 failed IUI's
---1 natural (2 follicles)
---1 clomid (3 follicles)
---1 clomid (1 follicle)
---1 injectable (4 follicles)
IVF #1 BFN
IVF #2: Starting NOW + growth hormone
rph
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