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Sita
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Post by Sita »

Hi Girls,

I am so glad we can all share our experiences with each other.

Tina,
I can understand how difficult it can be when in-laws interfere and try to take over our lives. What I always try and remind my self is "I can not change them as they are so set in their ways". The only thing I can do is to change my behaviour and not let them rule our lives. If they suggest something, I now just say that DH and I will need to think about it and we do not give a conclusive answer. This way, they know that we will only do what ever we want to do. They get tired and give up sometimes. I also do not diclose too much information. I tell them about things after the event so that they can not dwell on issues. It is our life, so we must try and be in control. :)

You are lucky that you are on the other side of the world. My cousin who is also going through similar issues with in laws, just puts the answering phone on when she knows her in -laws from India call. This way, she does not get stressed when they speak to her and say hurtful things.

One thing we can learn from all of this is, we must never be like our MILs when it is our turn to be MILs. We know what it feels like and also experienced how hurtful words can be. So, there is a positive from all of these experiences. :)

I see you are also starting acupunture. I hear this really helps, I am sure this will also helps us in our journey to be successful with fertility treatment.

Chel,

Yes, I think we have similar issues with relations. I too try and avoid them, this way I do not get so stressed. If I do meet them, I always tell them that we like to travel and see the world or that I am concentrating on my career.

I too work in a stressful environment as a Finance manager and am doing higher studies. I used to work long hours but forece myself not to any more. I realised recently that stress has a lot to do with how your body reacts to fertility mediaction. I feel I miss period because of stress. Apparently you can also get infections, headaches etc because of stress which can also have a direct impact on our fertility. We must try and take it easy and be as relaxed as possible. I am taking time off when I am on my 2WW so that my body has no tensions. Hopefully, this should help me to get pregnant this time. I understand acupunture also prepares your body for the embryos. Fingers crossed, everything should go well the next time for all of us. :)

Wishing you loads of good luck and PMA. :)

Love,
Sita
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3 IVFs -July 05 -ve, May 06 (OHSS), May 08 -ve
2 FETs - Dec 06 -BFP (MC) and June 07 -ve
4th IVF - fresh cycle - BFP :-) Beautiful DD is 4 yrs
5th IVF - Oct 13 - BFP - MC at 7 weeks :(
6th IVF - June / July 14
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Post by tinaviju »

Hi Chel and Sita
Thanks for tips on handling the inlaws!I need all of them! Chel how were you able to keep your ivf secret from your inlaws when you wwere living with them.It must have been very stressful,especially after the -ve.You didn't get any pampering.I was with my inlaws for my 1st ivf.They knew we were doing it.But my MIL inspite of that would tell me to help her with cooking and other stuff whenver dh wasn't around..It was all light work.but yet I thought if it was her own daughter she wouldfn't make her do anything.(Maybe that's just the way I think!)And when dh would come back from whereever he went ,she would say "I told her to rest and lie down"!.Actually the timing of the ivf was wrong as dh's younger sisters marriage was at the same time.So it was very chaotic and busy.I realized later it was not a good time for ivf.Chel it is amazing how you can empathize with your MIL for not having a grandchild over your sadness of not having a child.Hope she knows that.I don't think I could ever empathize with my MIL.(I am a mean DIL!)I have to forgive like you.

Sita "I loved your qoute of how we can't change them,we can only change ourselves.I will keep that in my head.Also like you said ,my experience will make me a good MIL someday hopefully!
chel what part of your cycle are you on.Sita Have you decided when to start?
Take care girls,Love Tina
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Post by Chel »

hi sita and tina,
I 'll b starting my cycle in May06, sita what stage are u in now? Me 2 thinkin of taking 2 wks leave after ET.

Tina,
I'll tell u, it wasnt that easy to 4give my MIL, I kicked a lot of fuss b4 I could do that. U know wat? I didnt talk 2 her for nearly 1 yr after my failed ivf for some reasons which i still cant explain to myself. I would advice that u should learn to say "no" at times esp when she asked u to help with cooking after ET. I did it on my own will as I did not tell her abt ivf, if I had told her I wld hav not done anything. I m not telling you to rebel against her but just to stand up for yourself. To do that first you should get your husband's full support, to get his full support, never complain abt his mum to him directly but just let him know what she is doing without hurting his feelings or making him guilty. However, its just my opinion, at the end of the day we should know what is accepted in our society and wat is not, cos we still hav to be part of it.

Thank god, i dont hav SILs, may be if i had had one, I wld hav not managed to reconcile with her. Oops! wat happen to me, being so mean? he he, i think its okie to pour our feelings out.

Sita,
sorry we hav made this thread into "MIL & IVF".

Keep us posted how the tmt goes.

All the best, let this gorgeous angel bring good luck to us.
Chel
me 30 DH 37
1st ICSI -ve 2002
2nd ICSI in May/June +ive (BFP) praying hard for a smooth 9 months
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hi girls

Post by shez »

hey... i went to my appointment lastweek so should start ivf in april... i pray to god it works this time! :?
if u guys dont know me... im 23 doctors say i have very mild PCOS and my husband is 25 he has a low sperm count so thats why we are doing ivf for the second time!
i got married 12 july 2003 and have been with my husband since april 2002... we wanted a baby right from the start so i have never used anything to stop me falling pregnant... this time last year i started ivf i found it very hard to be honest i live with my inlaws and my mother inlaw wasnt very understanding she use to make me do the hoover,cleaning and cooking so i got no rest!!! my husband is really mashallah good to me but he doenst have it in him to say anything to his mum... we have just got a new house for me and my husband and should be moving out in the next 6 months... but this time round i have told my mother in law that i am not doing anything!!! im having bedrest during my 2 week wait...
i work full time at a mortgage office... my husband is a chartered quantity surveyor and he also works full-time. i have a appointment on the 6th april then i will find out when i really do start for sure...

sorry for longing... but take care and i wish u all the very best

shez
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Post by Chel »

hi shez,
U r like the rest of us too. Why dont these MIL be a little more understanding? Well, I bet they hav no idea what it is like to be unable to have a child naturally. Shez, good that u told her that u wont be doing anything after ET, it is very important to draw lines at times. You are very young and I m sure you will be holding your bundle of joy soon, of course the rest of us too Ha ha ha!

All the best to u! keep is posted when are u starting
Chel
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1st ICSI -ve 2002
2nd ICSI in May/June +ive (BFP) praying hard for a smooth 9 months
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Post by tinaviju »

Hi Girls,
Nice to read your replies.Sita like chel said,Sorry for turning this into the "My MIL is very mean :twisted: " thread! I take full responsibility!
Here I go again on the juicy topic!
Chel, you are right about saying "no" to MIL.I am working on that part.My mil is very dominating and imposing.I become nervous,begin mumbling and speak senseless words in front of her.later I feel like kicking myself for the way I acted.So I do need your coaching on that!

Shez,Good for you !You are so young ,yet are able to stand up to your MIL.I can learn from you also.By the way I would love to know her what her reaction was when you said that! My dh is like yours.He is very loving and caring ,but used to hesitate speaking up for me.I used to feel very bad and alone when ever I was at my inlaws.It's like I was alone against everyone else.I have 2 SIL'S who are MIL's right and left hand! My DH is such a good son.He takes cares of his parents financailly,emotionally and every way possible,He never says ":no" to them even if he can't do it.My Mil is very greedy and uses guilt tripping and fake tears to make dh fulfill all her demands.Before my dh would just agree to everyone they said or wanted ,without discusinng anything with me.It made me feel very left out and worthless.Now after nearly 5 years of marriage my dh has slowly started underatnading my side and does stand up a little for me.That means a lot,even if it is a little.Hope it will continue to improve.

Shez hope you get to shift into your new home before the ivf,If not get teh rest anyways.My first ivf cycle was very stressful as I had all the MIL issues to handle at the time.So it took me a month to recover from that -ve.But this time when i did the ivf away from inlaws and without anyone else knowing it was a beautiful experience.My retrieval felt like a day at the spa!It was on my bday which made it extra special.I had almost no stress untill a few days before the test(which is expected).Even though a got a -ve,i was able to recover emotionally very fast within a few days since it was such a good experience.

We all invest 100% both financially and emotionally into an IVF cycle without any guaranteee of whether it will work.So stress levels will be very high.So invest 100% in pampering and calming yourself as well.This is a very important time in your life.Focus yourself on you and hubby.As hard as it is don't focus on the outcome .Will it work ? What will I do if it fails ? Will I ever become a mom? (This is difficult as by default we think all these thoughts automatically! But try not to obssess over it)This is what causes the most stress as,everything being out of our control ,makes us feel helpless and frustrated.
Just think of it like this.There can be only 2 outcomes to this whole process.Either you get pregnant,stay preganant and have the baby or on the flip side you don't get pregant or miscarry..If you get pregant and have the baby it's great! You have reached the finish line.If not ,it is horrible,it sucks,it is unfair and it will hurt a lot.But it is not the end,it's just another bump in the road.A stronger you will emerge.
Like Sita once told me "What doesn't kill you ,will only make you stronger!"
We have already gone miles and miles on this stormy,bumpy infertility journey.What is few more miles or even a hundred more? We can handle it all.We are SUPER WOMEN! Our perseverance and faith will fianlly land us at our destination where clear skies and God's perfect little creation awaits.
Take care girls,I am ending before I get too poetic! :lol:
Love Tina
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Post by Chel »

Aw my tina,
wat a fantastic writer u r! believe me it was very calming to read your advice on ivf, simply superb!

I remember reading that you are from Kerala,am i right? does your parents live nearby? was ur marriage arranged or love? sorry for being busy body, just curious to know. About myself, our is arranged (but we are far relatives and have heard abt each other from young).

I wonder why are u so nervous about your MIL (sorry I m honest about it)
sounds like she is really very clever and cunning. Probably she is too proud of her authority over her family. Is your DH the only son? How about ur SILs are they married? If not, be happy their married life wil teach ur MIL a good lesson.

Are u working? I think the MILs treat their working DILs different from non working DILs. I m not sure whether u agree with me but it is true in my case, when I first came to singapore i was not working for almost 2 years and thats when I went through HELL with her. Once i started working things started to change, esp after my education i was promoted and my MIL started to treat me totally different all of a sudden.

take care all
Chel
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1st ICSI -ve 2002
2nd ICSI in May/June +ive (BFP) praying hard for a smooth 9 months
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HEY GIRLS....

Post by shez »

when i first got married i found it so hard... living with my mother inlaw but when i started working it was much better... i see her frist thing in the morning and last thing in the evening!!! i have a sister in law that is my age she has 1 little girl that is 2 and has just found out she is having her second!!! all my mother in law cares about is her... which is sad cos she doesnt give a shit about me...
sometimes i think am i asking for too much all i want is a baby...
hey its life!!!
anyways how far is everyone in there treatment?

takecare all

shez xxx

oh who watches hindi films? or star plus/zee tv?
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Post by Chel »

shez,
I can understand how u feel abt the MIL & SIL thing, I'll tell u wat, don't care what she thinks of u or how she treats u. We will only end up hurt if we expect something that these people don't have. Just tell yourself that disappointments come only when we have expectations. I am not saying that we dont have any expectations in life but just avoid those concerning others esp. ILs and indulge your mind in something you would enjoy.

I was crazy abt Hindi movies during my teenage time but after marriage I didnt get to watch much. My favourite actor is "sharukh" I love him. Shez where are u from?

love all
Chel
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1st ICSI -ve 2002
2nd ICSI in May/June +ive (BFP) praying hard for a smooth 9 months
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hey chel...

Post by shez »

im from london... but got married in preston...

yep i have given up on my inlaws... i dont care what they do as long as they leave me and my husband alone!!!!

im going round my mums over the weekend a guy is coming round to see my sister... so cute... those were the days :lol:

i do love watching films... these days i dont get time... cos of work and hospital appointment!!!

im going to ask for some time off work today... when i have my 2 ww... see what boss says!!!

what r u up 2?

from shez
im 23 dr say im fine nothing wrong with me mashallah...married... my husband 25 has a low sperm count
ivf with icsi - 2005 but failed
ivf with icsi - 2006 oct 06 BFP with twins Due date 29-06-07


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Post by Sita »

Hi Chel, Tina and Shez,

I am glad to see that we have a nice support group with regards to issues concerning MILs and IVF cycles. Family pressures are so linked to IVF cycles and our PMAs.

Chel,

I used to live in Chennai when I was young and have good childhood memories. Do you visit there often ? I will love to visit there soon.

I am ordering all my medication today and will start my 5 week injections probably in the 2nd week of April when I hope to get my period. Hopefully, everything should go as planned. When is your next attempt Chel ?

Shez,

It sounds as though we have very simlar issues. I too have polycystic ovaries and my DH has a low sperm count. I am starting acupuncture this week to help with my 2nd IVF try. Hope it helps !! :)

I was also organising a house move during my last (1st) cycle and was stressed out dealing with the solicitors. I hope all the stressful bits with the house move will be over when you are having your cycle. Pls try and be as relaxed as possible. Glad to hear that you stood up to your MIL. It is very important for her to know what she can and can't expect from you as her DIL.

Tina,

I agree with Chel. You can express yourself very well. I can understand that your MIL is playing guilt tricks with you and DH. Pls remember that there can only be ONE QUEEN in each house. Try and make it clear to her that you and DH will only do what you like to do (easily said than done .. I know but please try). When I get frustrated with my MIL, I always speak to my DH and let him know how I feel. It took him a few years to understand, but he now realises that his mother can be annoying at times. I ask him "Do you want me to speak to her ?" to which he always replies "No, I will do it ". This way, he always has a quiet word with MIL and tells her where to stand. I think it is better that the bad news comes from DH rather than me.

I avoid speaking to her sometimes and she knows that if she upsets me, she is also upsetting my DH. She trys to make up afterwards when she feels bad. I forgive her sometimes and I think our relationship gradully grew.

I must say that I have never stayed with my ILs expect for a few weeks when I first came to UK after marriage. I told my DH that I wanted a seperate place even before we married. Ours was a proposed marriage by the way. I admire you girls for putting up with the housework and everything else. That is amazing !!

Until next time.. take care of yourself and remember that YOU ARE THE QUEEN IN YOUR HOUSE... NO ONE ELSE !! :)

Lots of love and Good luck,
Sita
Me=37, Hubby=42 (Male and Female factor)
3 IVFs -July 05 -ve, May 06 (OHSS), May 08 -ve
2 FETs - Dec 06 -BFP (MC) and June 07 -ve
4th IVF - fresh cycle - BFP :-) Beautiful DD is 4 yrs
5th IVF - Oct 13 - BFP - MC at 7 weeks :(
6th IVF - June / July 14
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hi ladys

Post by shez »

i have a masi in chennai.... my parents go there once a year... and i was thinking of having ivf there next time if this one doesnt work... as i will get lots of rest.... :?

who is doing treatment now? just chel?
chel:
I remember ordering all my medication last year... so cool... i wish u the best....

from shez
im 23 dr say im fine nothing wrong with me mashallah...married... my husband 25 has a low sperm count
ivf with icsi - 2005 but failed
ivf with icsi - 2006 oct 06 BFP with twins Due date 29-06-07


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Hi Girls,
Thanks for your replies,I am not much of a talker,I always end up being the quiet person in a group.But when I write I can go on and on.I communicate best through writing,but if I spoke to you on the phone I wouldn't know what to say.That's me!
Chel I also had an arranged marriage.My husband is my 4th cousin ,but never seen him or heard of him ever before till the proposal came.Yes it's shameful that I am not assertive in front of my MIL.She is very dominating.After my marriage my inlaws wanted to keep all my jewelery in a locker which was in their name.(They feel everything the girl brings goes to that family.These are the same people who said they will never ask for dowry.That's funny because they did ask about that also!)I told dh I want the jewelery to be in our locker.My MIL created such a big deal over that saying I don't trust them at all.My dh said his father felt very bad after I said that.Like I said dh cares so much about his parents feelings.I was just married a week that time and I cried so much.The gold ended up in their locker.I need to get it back to my custody,because it is after all my gold.Any ideas?
That was a bad start to the marriage plus there were many incidents like that btw my parents and inlaws before and after the marriage.My parents are not the quiet kind and will defintely speak back if my inlaws do something.This is good in one way ,but at the same time it creates new problems.My mom gets angry at my dh for not speaking up.SOMEtimes she is so angry she won't speak to him.She tells me he is not smart,a coward,a fool etc..(She had a bad inlaw experience ,so is trying to protect me from that)I become defensive the minute anyone says anything about dh,even if they are my parents.That causes tensions btw my mom and I.Because of this I hesitate to tell my parents everything as they will get all charged up!Sometimes we just want our parents to listen and give us support and not charge in and create more conflict.

I told my dh that we are the ones suffering in the end from all these inlaw and my parents interference.He needed to stand up to both the sides.Now he has slowly started doing that.My MILs feels it is her sons duty to fulfill all her wishes because she used to take the bus to drop him at school!She's kind of brainwashed him!My dh paid for his younger sisters wedding and dowry inspite of all our expenses with these treatments.But they didn't even say thanks or tell anyone he did that.She knew all our expenditure for the treatment and his siters wedding but yet she asked him to renovate the whole upstairs of the house though there is no one to stay there even.(she knows he won't say no)What bugs me is that the things she asks for are all for show to others and not out of necessity.My dh feels if he says "no" he isn't a good son.I told him now we have no more money for her .But still he very dutifully sends his parents money every month.I sometimes feel it is good that we have all these expenditures for treatment,so that dh will feel he has to think about us also.Now he is feeling his wallet getting light and is thinking more.

My dh is the only son,so I don't have co sister for support.My 2 SILS are both married.But both have uninterfering inlaws.(how unfair).But whenver there is a little tiff btw them and their inlaws I am the one most happy(mean me).My MIL told me I should get a job so that I can pay for expenses.(It is okay for her to spend all our money,but I should work to pay for all that!) My MIL praises my Sil saying she studied her M.A.I only studied till B.SC. That motivated me to get my masters and now I am studying for my MBA.I might even get my PH.D just to spite her further!She likes me working because it means more income for her.She doesn't like me studying as her sons money is going for that.!
I am looking for a part time job now just to help a little with all the bills.If I get a job I plan on telling MIL that I needed a job because we are having money problems.(So that she will know dh is not some bank).
Sita,Thanks for making me realize she is trying to be the queen in my home also!I've got to take back my throne!
I'm sorry If I bored all of you with this MIL gossip!
Sita,Chel and Shez glad to know you all and have your support and advice! It means a lot.I forget about the tensions of trying to have a baby when I get to chat with all of you.You are all strong and beautiful people.I pray all our dreams come true.Take Care,Tina
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Post by Chel »

Hi girls,
I kinda like this thread soo much,he he. It really helps us to pour out the frustration of infertility and its effect on ILs.

sita,
Good luck on your treatment , I m starting my treatment in May, now trying to prepare my mind and body.

Which part of chennai did you stay. Yes, I visit my family in india once or twice a year. I really miss them. DH is very supportive, he will come with me whenever he gets leave. How abt you where does your family live? UK? or Srilanka?

Shez,
I m starting my tmt in may, Good luck to you.
What is 'masi' sorry for being 'blur blur' (in s'pore sometimes we speak singlish which is a kind of english spoken only by singaporeans)

Tina,
You seem to be a very submissive person whom every indian man would dream of marrying (correct me if i m wrong). My DH and MIL initially thought that i m very submissive (may be I was submissive at that time). My DH did not take it for granted but he tried to change me into someone strong and independent (I still thank him for changing me). But MIL really really bullied me during the first year. she would treat me differently from her other DILs who are singaporeans. during the first year i used to complain to my DH abt his mum but he will just listen and wont say a single thing abt it. He used to be very happy chatting and laughing with his mum while I m crying in our room thinking of the way she treats me. To him, his mum is innocent, she doesnt mean what she says but to me she is a mean monster especially when she talks bad abt my family or India.

But later he realized what his mum was doing but requested me to tolerate as he cant talk back to his mum. We ended up quarreling a lot everytime we spoke abt her. From then on he advised me to tell her off if she hurts me. I tried that and was shocked by the way she reacted to it (one day she almost broke every single thing in the kitchen and banged her head on the wall non stop). after that incident I stopped talking to her for almost a year. It is only after i stopped talking to her he realized how much she had hurt me.
In four months time we bought our own house and moved out. He kept asking me to talk to his mum and forget everything that happened but i did not. Finally it was MIL who spoke to me. From then on whenever she says something that I dont like I will simply change topic without listening to wat she is telling me. Initially she felt that I was rude but later got used to it and now she know what i like and what i dont. Of course I hav also learnt what will hurt her (turning her son against her).

Like sita said it is best not to talk your MIL whenever she makes u angry, so that she will know what she is doing. But for your case your mil seems to be really difficult to handle. I think u should let your DH know how you feel through writing (I think you can touch his heart). We all are adults we have the right to live our life the way we want it. Its good that you are studying. working part time will give you time away from MIL and some money. My mil is also horrible when it comes to spending she will spend money like water and always ask my DH o this do that for her. DH wouldnt like me telling him not to give too much to his mum so I told him I will spend the same amount on my family in india and I really did it. Even though I spend my money and not his money he started to realize what I mean. Thats why it is important to work.

I really dont know what to say abt the jewellery, i have not heard anything like that in real life but in indian movies. Tina, I think its time you speak up for yourelf. Dont let her rule your life. Like sita said, we should be the queen in our home. why dont you tell your dH that you want to wear them and do not want it to be locked up.

Do you and DH tell MIL all the u both are doing? We dont, because if we do, that will give her all the right to poke her nose into our business.

Tina,
dont take all the advice I give you, take only what is relevent to you.

Ok girls, think I had too much to say today. take care all.

Sita, thanks for starting the thread its nice to meet people who have similar problems.
Chel
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Hi girls,
think we are on different time zones,When I get up in the morning I see all your messages!How are all the queens doing?That's what we should call ourselves!
Chel thanks for all the coaching.It helps me see things from another person's view.I am not submissive when it comes to dh or parents.I have a short temper :evil: and get very emotional.But in front of myMIL I am opposite.I hesitate to do all that fearing what the consequences will be.That';s what holds me back.She is not one to keep quiet.i f I say something she will yell and cry in front of her son and daughters.I feel I will be totally alone against all of them with no support.My dh also told me if she says anything to her,speak back.No NEED to bear anything.I think she uses the fact that I am submissive to her advantage.So I have to change.Next time I got to Inida I will either bring all my gold here or put it in my name even if they don't like it.My inlaws let me take gold from there whenever I want,but it so wierd as each time my FIL will come with me like a body guard.I don't have any freedon.They always will know if I want to take or put anything.My dh tells me "what difference is it if it is in their locker or mine." I get so irritated.I have written many letters to dh as I can write my feelings clearly without getting crazy.He does try ti understand a lot ,but also doesn't want to hurt his parents in any way.He is also like me in some ways.He hesitates to speak back to people if they say something.We both need to change.MY inlaws knew about the first ivf as it was in their place,but don't know about the 2nd ivf.If they knew I'm sure they'll say there must be something wrong with her for it not to work!
Chel is your MIL Singaporean or Indian?I was little confused.Good for you,your silence made oyur MIL come to her senses.Thanlks for sharing your experiences with me! Please continue to do so to help me change!
Sita,What's up with you,Did you go for your accu yet?I might stick with the same lady since I didn't find anyone else.Let's see how it goes.
Shez ,read in another thread you were also looking into accu.Did you find a good place?Hope things go well.
Take CARE ALL,Love Tina
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