The Over 40 Crowd

[AMck]

Hello all, happy Tuesday

Tammy what fab news! Good luck with ET tomorrow.

Gail, keep smiling. Not long now to a BFP!

Debra, my advice?.....do what you want to do. If you don't feel like going to the hosptital don't. No need to put yourself through that! Look after yourself, you have just been through a horrid time!

Hi to Lola, feel free to but in anytime! hope you are Ok. Is it EC soon for you?

Hi to Lara, how are you today? I totally agree with what you said to Debra.

Bev, hope you are OK. Haven't seen you post for a while. Busy packing?

Hi to Jo, Robyn, Kat, et al. PMA to all

I'm just waiting for dp to come back from footie training for my first injection......wish me luck!
Bye for now
Keep smiling
Anna x

[gailbunny]

Debra I agree with the others if you dont want to start up contact then looking after no1 is the best policy.

I cant think of anything worse than going on to a maternity ward whilst enduring a m/c. Not only have you been through the ivf rollercoaster you have the added emotional loss too.

Ps hope your snow starts to dwindle - you could send it here!!

Gail

[randa2006]

Congrats Tammy! What a great ET you'll have tomorrow.

Our list
New 40+ Mommies:
Alette (own eggs). Son Nov 05
Jude - twins (DE) 05
Joy - twins (DE) 05
CarolineP - Daughter Nov 05
Squew - twins 05

Ladies in waiting:
Debbieed - own eggs, BFP August 05. EDD - April 06?
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 - EDD 15/08/06 praying hard
DPerry (Donna). DE. BFP July 05
Lara - BFP, history of m/c, hoping all OK

On meds:
Tammy- bumper crop of follies, ET Wed 22nd March
Gail - ET Tuesday 14th March on 2ww

Preparing:
Kat - deciding next step
Amfy - FET March/April
Bev- Off to Kiev 30th March for tmt DE
Jen - Taking time out then, next IVF in May...
Robyn - 2nd IVF cycle in March
Anna - starting short protocol soon!
Lisa - FET May 2nd
Jo - 2nd IVF cycle esd 28 March
Randa - bc pills start March 22 for April stim
Debra - Will start a medicated FET after April AF

[BevT]

Hello everyone,

Randa, nice to see you back with us. Are you looking forward to starting again next month? Wish you loads of luck!

Debra, bless you. Don't put yourself through a visit to the maternity unit to see someone that you are not all that bothered about re-connecting with! You are going through enough of your own to certainly justify not splitting yourself in two to support someone else!!!

Jo, looking at the list, your 2nd IVF cycle - what does "esd" mean? Good luck with it anyway.

Lisa, how are you doing?

Robyn, hope you are going for IVF (my humble opinion). Have you seen the threads "it only takes one"?

Hey Kat, still thinking of you. Hope you're coping ok.

Gail, not long to go now on the 2 ww. Half-way through. Hugs.

Wow, Tammy, good luck today with your ET. You go get those babies!

Lara, how's things with you. Have you done the dreaded "test" yet? Hope your little embies are hanging on in there. Lots of love to you.

Hey Anna, I'm still here, lurking around in the background. Have been a bit busy last few days, what with sister arriving at the weekend, finally made myself clean the spare room/bathroom! The rest of the house was full of crap though, but at least they had a clean and tidy little haven to sleep in!!! Hope all is going well with your cycle. Thank goodness you are at long last able to get underway! Fingers crossed.

Hi Lola, thanks for sending us your sack o welsh pixie voodoo for dream-com-true-ing-ness occurrences! Chortle, what a mouth full!!

Went to London yesterday with DH's 4th formers on a coach trip. I was making up the adult numbers as they had timetable issues, and one teacher had to stay behind to cover! Off we went to the Design Museum, then a river-boat trip, then to London Eye. Needless to say, I did not go up - hate heights. What a day, so tired, not used to getting up at 5am, spending all day with 38 14yr olds. They never shut up!!!! Still, nice kids on the whole, and they all behaved themselves. AND we didn't lose any. Thank goodness.


Hi to anyone else I've missed, but hope that I have caught you all. Oh no, nearly missed Jules honey! How was your scan? Did I hear on the grape-vine that you have an idea of what "variety" you are having. Nearly half-way now aren't you. Great and well done.

LOL to all our girls!
Bev xxx

[teachertam]

Good morning girls:

Thank you for all your support! I'm off to the hospital now, as my appointment is at 7:00pm and the drive is 1.5 hours.

Take care all,
Tammy

[Jo1962]

Morning everyone

It's actually sunny outside today! Bev - esd = estimated start date

AF should be due this weekend, so would have a scan on monday and start meds immediately. Although, just like the flowers on the daffs in my garden, so far no sign whatsoever. my boobs are normally sore by now. expect the last treatment has mucked up my cycle...

[robyn]

Hi Everyone
Hope you are all doing well!
Some of you have some very exciting things to look forward to.
Tammy I guess you are going for ET?? PMA esp during the 2ww.
Gail Hope you are coping better with 2ww. lots of PMA
As far as I am concerned I just feel so shitty!!!
Now I only have one follie. There is this woman Dr at the clinic and I just met her for the first time today and she says i will do your EC....So I ask her are you happy to do the EC without anesthesia? She proceeds to go on for a full min about how it is easy and i'm only out for 5 min and it is easier for her and for me, blah blah blah so again i ask her so would you be happy to do it without anesthesia? she finally asked me if i don't want anesthsia and i said i'm sure it is in my file but yeah i am more afraid of anesthetics, my mom always hallucinated from them and blah blah blah. Finally as if she was doing me a huge favor said i'll do it w/o. Then i asked if my husband could come in? well that was it she said no husbands ever come in for an EC......Well i started to feel very sensitive. It is so impersonal. I gently said last time Assad allowed my husband in and she said in the coldest stern voice YOU ARE A VERY PERSISTANT WOMAN!! Well that was it i am now thinking about cancelling this cycle. I have at most one egg and she told me it wouldn;t be of very good quality add that to the fact i now require ICSI i have less than a good shot in hell! So i feel so let down and so upset. I don;t know what to do. any suggestions.......Robyn

[gailbunny]

Robyn - the clinic doesnt sound very helpful at all. My DP has been to both my EC as I assume many other ladies have their DH present too. I think you are well within your right to be persistant.

I went with my EC because we have been told by my consultant that she wont run another Program with us unless it is with a donor egg. She has always been very good with us and said that with the poor response to high drug dosage that if we did run again we would probably get less than this cycle so she said we would be better using our money on a donor.

I am sure this wont be helping with your very difficult decision. I know that I needed to be able to trust my consultant and have full faith in the fact that she was doing her very best for me. However, she can be very blunt and to the point sometimes.

I really do hope you make the right decision and I am thinking of you. Sending you big hugs and lots of PMA.

Gail

[gailbunny]

Tammy good look with ET.

Gail

[DebraP]

Oh Robyn, what a horrible meeting.

I'm gobsmacked to be honest. I've only heard once before of no DHs at EC and that was in Italy. Everyone always has their DH there don't they? or maybe only with sedation vs. GA. I've never had GA so it's never been an issue. If another Dr at the same clinic allowed DH there before, insist on him being there again. So bloody what if you're persistent, what's wrong with persistent?? This is THE most important thing for you right now, there's just the one follie, you're going to want to do whatever you can. What the hell does she know about the potential egg quality at this stage? she doesn't know anything about it yet or does she? Bugger what's easier for her, it's not about her. This is your EC, within their clinic rules, get whatever support you can. She sounds very unsympathetic.

I can't give you good advice on cancelling or not, my gut says go through with it but if it means you not having to pay and then having a new cycle later, maybe that would suit you better?

Sorry it's such a crappy day for you too. I had to leave uni as I couldn't stop crying. Not howling and sobbing, just non-stop tears.


Tammy, you're our light right now. Let's hear good news later please.
Gail, I hope another day from your 2ww zips by smoothly.
Lara, sorry you've so much stress at work. That can't help at all.
Bev, 38 x 14yr olds?? are you mad? I can't imagine anything worse.
Anna, good luck with those shots.
Jo, I hope AF shows up on time.


Hi to everyone else, there's lots going on.
hugs
Debra.

[Jo1962]

YOU ARE A VERY PERSISTANT WOMAN!!.Robyn

and then you should have said "AND YOU ARE A VERY UNFRIENDLY AND HELPFUL DOCTOR"

[Kat]

I think it must be something in the air giving us all shitty days, I cried all the way home yesterday for some reason after trying desperately not to burst into tears during the day, just felt so sad. Not upset, upset is too temporary, I mean deep down sad.
Had a good long talk with DH when I got home (poor man having to put up with me) and reminded myself how much that helps rather than bottling it all up.
I think we both know we won't try again although we haven't really acknowledged that decision properly. We don't know if we should go for adoption, don't know if we should just change direction completely and make a life without a child. There are so many things we could do, places to see, that we couldn't do if we had a child. I suppose we'll make a decision eventually. Just wish I knew why we had to go through this, shouldn't we have something good happen soon? Must be about time...

Hope things get better for all of us
love
Kat xx

[Jo1962]

"AND YOU ARE A VERY UNFRIENDLY AND HELPFUL DOCTOR"

obviously I meant UNHELPFUL...

I didn't even ask if DH could be in egg colllection. Didn't occur to me. And they didn't offer. And I know that DH wouldn't have enjoyed it... far from it. Anyway, it's a surgical procedure, don't they have protocols about that kind of thing in the UK?

I asked about the GA too, as not keen on them myself, but the doctor said "you wouldn't thank me for it". And was SOOO sore afterwards was very glad I wasn't awake - think it would have been awful.

To reassure you, Robyn, anaesthetics have come on a long way, and for the EC it's a very light one indeed, and you just feel warm and woozy when you come round, as if you'd just had a really good sleep.

[DebraP]

Yes Kat, something good is long, long overdue.

So sorry to hear you were hit with a sad-wave yesterday. I was starting to doubt if I'd ever cry again before today. Tears are a normal part of grieving and recovery, they do us good in a weird kind of way. Glad to hear you can talk to DH about options and that it's not too raw to discuss.

Here's a ((hug)) and I hope you feel better today.
Debra.

[DebraP]

....just read this and cried again. I feel ashamed to complain about what's going on in my comfortable, safe life.

http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs2986


Debra.