THE FIRST CONCERN!!!!!

tony · Post by **tony** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:53 am

today before our first ultrasound my wife whent for her blood work
and at 3 pm as usual an ivf nurse call my wife back with the results....
so after her fift week pregnancy her hcg level is at 720....progesterone is at 43 and the nurse told her that the Beta level whent down just a bit
to 1276...now i have no clue what this beta level is and i don't know were it was at.... so with this concern she called the doctor and he say not to worry,is usual for the beta level do go up ur down.....does this make any sense??can any one explain it to me ??is this very normal??and what is this beta thing?? tjhank you a million...........................Tony

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:57 am

hey tony i can imagine you got really worried i know this little one is so precious to you both, what did your clinic say about a retest?

there are many women on here whos levels wernt the norm both up and down and are way along with there pregnancy... did you ask your DR what the reasons could be if not call him back and ask it will save you worrying....

love hugs Debz

tony · Post by **tony** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:19 am

Debz HEY...HEY...HEY... i'm getting a little confuse here .....so i check out the website ..i sended to my wife email...is pretty mutch self explanatory...
and yes the doctor told us that is normal for this level to floctuate a little...he sayd that the ultrasound this morning looked really normal and there is nothing to worry about...well easy for hem to say....

tony · Post by **tony** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:38 am

ok beta level....last thursday was at 1290
today was at 1276.....i found this website(curtesy of Debz)that they talk about this but i'm still little confused.......

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:41 am

hey there, yeah i carried on reading some more sites...cant help it im a little anal...LOL and a lot of them said they stop doing the tests as they put pressure on #'s that really done mean much because they fluctuate so much normally ...so my bad for posting in haste till id really read up im sorry

i am with you on the Dr can say dont worry thing.. i hope you get a post from someone whos had this happen i think thats the only thing can really help... and hey your scan was great so thats a big fat positive sign

i hope you get news to ease your mind

hugs debz

tony · Post by **tony** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:47 am

well debs....you know i'm just an overreacted dude... LOL

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:17 am

No way Tony im sure if it was me id react the same way ...it would be nice after all we go through to get pregnant if we could cut a break and have some easy months wouldnt it.... seems we are really made to work for our little ones doesnt it....

not saying there not worth it .... lots of luck to you both

Ghost · Post by **Ghost** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:35 am

'hCG" and "Beta" are the same thing. It's a large molecule called beta-hCG. hCG stands for human chorionic gonadotropin. It's one hormone that the embryo produces as it implants. It signals the corpus luteum of the ovary to continue producing progesterone, which in turn prevents menses. hCG is the embryo's way of telling the mother "I'm here, don't have a period now!!!"

We test for it in the blood or urine to identify pregnancy. Just about any detectable level can indicate pregnancy. At a given point in time, the level can be used to roughly predict the number of developing embryos.

The levels are monitored in order to infer the status of the pregnancy. hCG will roughly double every couple of days for most healthy pregnancies. If it does not, then either a faulty measurement was made, or else something is wrong with the pregnancy. Typically it means the pregnancy is spontaneously aborting.

However, I've seen it drop a little, like you are talking about, and then resume rising. Not common, but it happens. I often wonder if this reflects losing part of a multiple pregnancy. Suppose three initially implant, and two fail, would this cause a brief drop in hCG, while the third can go on to delivery? Believable, but who can say?

Another thing that "abnormally rising titers" can indicate is an ectopic pregnancy. That's a pregnancy that attaches anywhere besides the uterus. These are commonly detected by lower than normal hCG values. Your doctor will be surely keeping an eye peeled for this possibility.

Jackie A. · Post by **Jackie A.** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:50 am

Hi Tony:

I just wanted to say thank you for replying to my other post. That is so wonderful that the one embie worked for you guys. So there is hope and you guys are examle of it.

I also think you must be such a great husband to be so concern with all this IVF stuff and so supportive of your wife, baby........

Wish you best luck! I will be transfering my "ONE" embie tomorrow morning.

Jackie

Zed2003 · Post by **Zed2003** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:23 am

Hi Tony,

Try not to worry too much - I know it's difficult but I'm sure your dr would tell you if he/she was concerned.

If it's any help, I was told that the numbers are in GUIDELINE bands. My EPU clinic told me that they've seen lots of women whose numbers don't double every few days, or even whose numbers are low and who have gone on to have perfectly normal babies. The same goes for the other way. It's a waiting game I'm afraid... Good to hear the first scan went well though

Take care
Zoe

tony · Post by **tony** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:44 am

hello all and thank you for your info's...my problem is that i'm analizing to mutch and i get my self worryed eaven more.....
ghost yours was some explanation ....little scarry but good ,are you a doctor??
Jackie A.. well once again good luck today and let us know....
Zed
hi.....you know what .....i think that this is eaven worst than the 2ww
LOL!!!....but like you say ....is nothing more than a waiting game.....
the only thing that i can do is give my wife confort and progesterone shuts
and pray of course.......thank you all again...

hi debz ..how are you today??positive as allways???i'm thinking of you
good luck

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:04 pm

Hey Mr & Mrs Tony..how are you feeling, im great i have to say im expecting a neg tomorrow not being down or negative about it but i feel nothing now not even sore boobies zip diddlie squat....so im a little prepared my hubbys still got a spring in his step so im more worried how he will react to it hes a wonderful man who deserves a baby....

any way i wanted to say Ghost what a shocker...i love your posts your a wealth of information and usually you manage to put minds at ease but that one was a doosie ... most of that doesnt apply to them they had a scan they know there embie is right where it should be they had one put back and that one is snuggled in the right place the golden word is most not all rise and continue to rise without a dip i have read on here of several women whos #'s dipped a little and are still carrying healthy babies.... could it be that the progesterone shot was incomplete in some way would this affect the #'s i know i have missed bits of mine after hubby stuck me wrong with the needle (in a bruised area)and i pulled away?????

have a great day.... hugs debz

Ghost · Post by **Ghost** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:30 pm

tony wrote: ghost yours was some explanation ....little scarry but good ,are you a doctor?

I'm not a physician. I am just a scientist who works on optimizing IVF procedures.

Sorry to have been so blunt, I was a little pressed for time and had to go pick up my daughter. So I posted something I should have edited some more. Aunty Pebbles is right of course. People come to this board more for support than for information.

You posted that your hCG dropped slightly, 1290 to 1276 in a 4-day period. Theoretically, should have risen to about 5,000. This is some cause for concern by your physician.

That said, please don't worry about these details of hCG ("beta") values. Let the doctor do all of the worrying. Your job is to relax and follow the doctor's instructions. Worrying does not help, and the physician has more than enough tools to figure out exactly what is going on at all times.

tony · Post by **tony** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:37 am

ghost..hi wow 5000??that is a lot....i don't know what the hcg is today...but our next test is on july the 10th so to my opinnion lot can happen by then....is it ok to wait this long ??or i really should start to worry and ask the md's for an early hcg test??what if by the 10th is really low?? if so well it be to late ??
but our md. told us not to worry.....well once again it is easy for him to say....

Zed2003 · Post by **Zed2003** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:56 am

Hi Tony,

Of course it's easy for him to say, but you must try and follow his advice. Keep positive and enjoy the knowledge that you know a baby's in there

Zoe

THE FIRST CONCERN!!!!!

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