HELP! Whether to egg collect or not!

louli · Post by **louli** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:44 pm

Dear All, Have posted a few times on the site over previous poor response cycles.I am 39, dh 30, ttc 3 years. I have had 3x laparotomy, the last to remove both Fallopian tubes, have endo, only one ovary and pelvic adhesions. We had 2 cycles that did not get good enough response to go for egg collection but decided to try one more time only using clomid. Surprise!Surprise! have managed 2 follicles and they are both growing, lining is thick enough BUT oestrogen only 770 and apparently should be more than 1000. However clinic seem to think it is worth trying to collect so am to inject tonight. I just wondered if anyone out there had ever had eggs collected with a relatively low oestrogen level. What do you reckon girls? Cheers Lou

Grace · Post by **Grace** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:29 pm

Hello Lou Don't have answers, but just wanted to say hello and wish you luck. I think you have to go for it though...the old cliche it only takes one etc and seeing that your lining is thick too is a good sign. Oestrogen will probably rise during today and tomorrow anyway. I guess you will be injecting at about 10pm. As always wishing you the very best Lou. Will be thinking of you very specially and really, really hope everything works out, Don't forget to let us know how it goes. Love and lots of luck to you both Gracexxx

Traci · Post by **Traci** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:39 am

Loui GO For IT, otherwise you will always be wandering "would it have worked?". also if the clinic say go then take their advice. I had bad responce and ended up with 3 folllis and got 4 eggs so you never know! and on fertility friends a girl had her sisters eggs and ended up with 2 eggs , both fertilised and she is pregnant, I havent heard of doing it with clomed , if my TMT fails this time (Had donor eggs from my cousin) then I will be having 1 more go with my own eggs . This could be good for me too. Quality Not Quantity!!!! Good Luck Let us Know Trace x

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:14 am

Hi Lou - just wanted to agree with what Traci and Grace have said, and wish you all the very, very best. I'm currently with Traci on the 2ww and hope you'll be joining us soon. Lots of love Alison x (Fellow founding member of the inner tubeless society!)

louli · Post by **louli** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:37 pm

Dear All, Thanks for your replies. Feel a bit of a poor participator in the site recently. I think it is just because I have felt so negative that I did not want to spread any badness of vibes, even the cyber variety! I was quite shocked when they told me that we might be going to egg collection as I had just geared myself up for it to be just like the other times. I am slightly concerned about the procedure as I know that I have pelvic adhesions and am probably at slightly higher risk than others. They are going to scan me first tomorrow morning to make sure that the 2 follicles are still there. I had my jab at 10pm last night and we have to be at the clinic for 7.30am tomorrow. Can't believe Alison and Traci, that you are both on the 2ww - the time has raced by since I first remember Traci talking about this egg donation from her cousin and since Alison joined the inner tubeless society!! Grace, good to hear from you. I have been following you on the other part of the site but did not feel right about posting there during this cycle.How are you doing? I have just had my Mum to stay on her way to Oz to meet her first grandchild - not very easy. I think I spent most of the visit crying but I feel better this week and am hoping that by the end of the weekend I will at last have got to embryo transfer. You were soooo!! right about Marie Wren, really approachable and on the level. Thanks for that, Good Luck all, Lou

Traci · Post by **Traci** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:29 am

as I write this you would have probably had egg collection, I do so hope there are 2 eggys there for you , I lit my candel for you this morning and it is still burning. Let us know how it all went . Trace x

louli · Post by **louli** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:45 am

Dear Traci, Grace and Alison, Thanks for your messages of support but I am sorry to say that there were no eggs collected. Naturally I am gutted but we had to go through with the egg collection to know for sure. I am slightly annoyed that the clinic do not give any reduction in charges even though there is to be no embryo transfer procedure and no further work forthe embryologists. Not sure what to do now. We may get a donor egg in approx April. I do not know whether we should try one more time or whether I just have to accept that I can never be a genetic parent. Think I can understand why gamblers put £2500 on black / red at roulette now! Nick and I are off to France today for a wedding anniversary party so at least that should take our minds off it for a couple of days. We are investigating egg donation in USA but it may just be too costly. Keeping everything crossed for Alison and Traci on 2ww. The BIG BLUE LINE may only be days away!!! All the best, Lou

Traci · Post by **Traci** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:55 am

Lou I have got up especially early today to find out if you made it or not and as I sit here can feel how gutted you are , now all I can say is that the thought of Donor egg to me was devestating at first but now I have them inside it doesnt feel any different THEY ARE STILL MINE. Have a good time away and Ill be here if you need me {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Trace x

Grace · Post by **Grace** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:54 pm

Ah Lou, I am really sad for you and really feel for you. I can understand too that you must feel cross with the clinic re the fees - it just adds salt to the wound does n't it. I suppose all you can do is take a bit of time to plan ahead. April for the donor is n't very far away really. I know it is a big step but I can imagine that once the embryos are inside you it will your and DH's baby. Perhaps you could try again with your own in the mean time. All these decisions are so difficult Lou. Your analogy of the roulette wheel is very apt I certainly feel like that too. Seriously though,you have been a wonderful support to me during my last two cycles and I really appreciate all your kindness and words of support. Please keep in touch and know that I will be here to support you in any decisions you make. It has been a difficult time for you with the new baby in the family etc,again I can really relate to that. Sometimes it is just so very hard. I hope the two of you manage to in someway enjoy the trip France. Don't forget we are all here when you get back. Love Gracexxxx PS Glad you liked Marie Wren she is very straightforward and I do value her opinion.

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:58 pm

Lou - I am so sorry to hear your news. The "rollercoaster" cliche just doesn't come close to describing the ups and downs of it all. Hope you have a good break in France - don't rush to make any decisions, I'm sure at some point you'll just have a strong feeling that there's only one way to move forward from here. Keep in touch, love Alison x

louli · Post by **louli** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:23 pm

Dear Grace, Traci, Alison, Thank you all so much for messages. It was a good thing to go away for the weekend although we did share accommodation with two sets of friends who have three children between them and it was tough at times. I was very overly sensitive to some of the comments made about parenting skills that I know were not intended to be hurtful but they did sting a bit. However, dh and I really enjoyed the party which was a 40 th wedding anniversary of my best friend's parents. We stayed in the most incredible chateau and of course indulged in all the naughtiest French food and wine. Now we have to decide what to do next. I am not sure whether to give it another go on natural cycle or whether that is just clutching at straws. We did advertise for a donor but no positive response. We have investigated going to the States as there are donors available at a price, and I just do not want this to drag on and on because it is really affecting our lives and I feel that I have put too much of myself on hold. We have to do a cycle to check out the effects of the drugs in preparation for the donor eggs so hope to do this in Jan. Still keeping everything crossed for Alison and Traci and big blue results. Must be any day now!!!! Good Luck and thank you all, Lou

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