Clinic Question

[Guest]

Hi all

I am slowly but surely coming to terms with my negative. I am keeping myself sane by planning my next treatment.

For those of you who don't know my I have just had a DIVF after my poor DH biopsy failed to find any sperm for our ICSI.

Anyway now that that has failed I am supposed to do DIUI as from a gyne point of view I am 100%.

My questions are:

I am feeling very negative as to whether anything will work at the moment but don't relish the thought of 10 DIUIs..............is it worth just sticking to DIVF?

Secondly how much to things differ from clinic to clinic? I know I am still looking for someone to blame but out of nineteen eggs collected, only nine were fertilized and only 2 made it to six cells.........this seems very low to me for someone with healthy eggs??

I have check out the HFEA figures and my clinic does not look great from a DIUI point of view, but then their numbers of people having DIUI are quite high..........perhaps those with better successes but much lower numbers of people would be different if they had a high number of people doing it??

Sorry for rambling...............Im desparate!!

I am just speculating and writing what I feel...........please help me out here all you guys in the know!

Love

JenFxx

[Traci]

Have you made a follow up consultation with the clinic if so do it soon and while you are waiting write down all your questions you want answered. If you dont feel that you have your answeres then find another clinic near you and go to one of their open evenings and see what they are like , also they sometimes have a few mins to ask questions after . We did this and moved clinics, it cost us £25 to get all our notes transferred.
or just ring the clinic near you and ask if you could have a chat with one of their consulters. It is very hard to get answeres and your head will go round and round untill you go mad , we need crystle balls !!! anyway another idea would be to join Fertility Freinds and they have a gyne person that will answere your questions for you but you might wait a few days .

Hope this helps

Trace x
Cant wait to see my consultant on the 26th

[helenlouise]

Hi Jen,

whereabouts in the uk are you?
I had 24 healthly eggs and donated 12. Of my 12 all 12 fertilised. 6 were frozen on day 1 as they have a better chance to defrost healthily in the future. All the other 6 multiplied and the best 2 which were grade 1/2 were put back. The others weren't developing as well so they decided it wasn't worth freezing them. What i'm trying to say is my clinic were great at explaining everything and i was impressed with them. The embriologist made a special point of coming to see us after EC to explain what would happen and then she called the next day.
Our clinic was in Buckinghamshire, so if you are within an hour or so of there i could recommend them if you felt like changing clinics.

best wishes, helen

[millie19]

Hi Jen, so sorry about your negative - have posted to you on the DI Pals thread.

Having read your experiences regarding the high number of eggs and low number of good embryos, it seems very similar to what happened to me. I am reasonably young (if you can call nearly 32 reasonably young!!) and egg quality really should be good, confirmed by my consultant who said this was not an issue as I have had a child. I produced a high number of eggs on both my IVFs - 24 collected first time and 21 second time. In both cases approximately half fertilised which I didn't think was great at all and on both occasions I only had 2/3 good embryos to put back and none good enough to freeze, in fact many of the lower grade ones arrested completely! Having said that the ones that were put back were good but to me to only have 2/3 good embryos and none to freeze out of 20+ eggs is crap ! Obviously its not the sperm because they are donor and checked out thoroughly and I had different donors on both occasions. The only explanation they had for me was that some women's eggs do not like being manhandled in the lab and my consultant said that if the second IVF followed the same pattern, which it did, we should return to IUI.

Perhaps you could ask your consultant whether he feels this applies to you, or maybe he'll have another explanation. I know how you feel though as my consultant had more or less told me I would have no problems getting pregnant with IVF and it was sooooo disappointing.

Millie x

[millie19]

Sorry, meant to ask another question Jen - you talk about 10 DIUI cycles - has this number been recommended to you? I'm never sure how many should be undertaken as there seems to be different opinions on the subject. Before my two IVFs I had a total of 7 IUI's and I asked the clinic if, having transferred to a new local one, they would allow me to continue with the IUI and they said that they definitely would because even people who try to conceive naturally can take months and months to actually fall, even with no known problems in that area.

Millie x