What are the chances?

[*Ert*]

Hi,

I recently had my second miscarriage after IVF. Both times the exact same thing has happened. We saw a heartbeat at 6-7 weeks and then shortly after it had stopped. Also both pregnancies were considered cornual. They were both in the upper right side of my uterus. Luckily both D and C's were able to get eveything out safely with no damage to my uterus. Now my doctor wants to find out why they keep implanting there and why I loose the baby at 7 weeks. Are they related or two seperate things going on? He did an ultrasound guided D and C so he is sure he got the tissue from the fetus to test this time. Last time we had the tissue tested and it came back normal female so they are not sure if that was my tissue or not. In six weeks I am going to get a HSG to see if there is anything wrong with my uterus. I had a saline ultrasound already and that came back fine in the past.
I am worried it is a genetic problem and that would be the end for us for a biological child.
Has anyone every had anything like this happen?
I can't go through another loss as I am sure you all understand how hard it is. I just want an answer because if we don't find one I can't put myself through this again.

[gi]

Ert my heart is breaking for you. To go thro. infertility then suffer a miscarriage is awful but 2 is just devastating and cruel. My best friend has lost 4 pregnancies in a row including twins and all were lost between 6-8 wks she is now currently 12 wks pregnant with a healthy baby, believe me it is tough but we can and will get thro. it. I had my miscarriage in May this year after 5 attempts so i understand some of the pain you are going thro. Take some time out and get your head together, grieving is a natural process and will make you stronger. I pray you will get your little baby soon xxxxx

[jenice]

I'm new to the board I have also lost 2 pregnancies and my third pregnancy is now a 4 year old daughter. Just keep on trying things have to go in your favor eventually that is what I always told myself. I was never a mathmatician but I figured I had to have a positive outcome and I am so glad I kept on trying!!!!! Now I can't conceive for the last 2 years so I'm doing IVF had 2 cycles cancelled so far. To get motivated sometimes I even purchase cute baby stuff sometimes I think I'm just torturing myself but I always know pregnant people so I can always give it away. Isn't that ironic when you are trying there are always pregnant people around you???

[*Ert*]

jenice and gi,

Thank you for your kind words and stories of hope. I keep telling myself I can not get ahead of myself until we get the test results back. Each day gets a little better but each day I also have my crying session. I am a teacher so I have the summer off. The hardest part is the morning when my husband leaves for work. I just want to be with him. I have been doing something with my mom each day and that has helped.

I will keep you guys in my prayers too. Thank you again for responding.

[jenice]

Ert, are you going to do a hsg or a hysterscopy? I have had about 3 of those tests where they put dye through your tubes and it spills in your uterus. My girlfriend had the hysterscopy where they put a scope and can see into the uterus I think. Maybe you should do a spa day it might help you relax. I know I had a massage once and it does help I really thought it wouldn't but pedicures are awesome Just try and stay busy I know it can be hard to think about trying again but don't give up. I remember back how I felt before having my daughter and it can be hard to see the light @ the end of the tunnel. Even now I feel like giving up cause I have a child but then I have the guilt of not giving her a sibling. It never ends!!! I couldn't believe I couldn't get pregnant after being pregnant 3 times before. I thought IVF would be easy for me cause I have a daughter but 2 cycles later cancelled. I told my hubby we would continue until all the insurance is gone. My daughter is now asking for a brother or sister. I feel bad for her cause sometimes she has to go with me for blood draws and the meds make me irritable.But in the end it will be worth it. The pain of all we went through we always be there but will get easier to deal with. If you ever want to talk just give me a holla back

[gi]

Ert i was the opposite i just wanted to be on my own to get my head around it but someone was always there if i needed to talk, crying is a great way to release your emotions and gradually you will feel better. Please dont give up it will be worth every tear and pain in the end when you hold you little baby in your arms just allow yourself some time. I always believe there is light at the end of the tunnel you cant see it yet cause it is around a bend but someday when least expected you will turn that corner and there it will be. Keep your head up girl you will be in my prayers.

Jenice you sound like such a fighter too and some day you will have a little sibling for your daughter.

gi xxx

[*Ert*]

Thanks ladies! I went to the doctor yesterday for a post op check up. He showed me the pictures from the laproscopy and explained everything. He is thinking it is either a chromosomal problem or that I may have a septate in my uterus. Either way we will find out in the next month. If it is the septate it expains the early and reccurent miscarriage. It also explains why the pregnancy goes to the right corner of my uterus. That can also be easily fixed. When my first RE did a saline ultrasound she said I had a slight dip at the top of my uterus. This doctor said we will be able to take a closer look with the HSG test and see if it is more than a slight dip. If it is a chromosomal problem he said we should go PGD. I felt better after seeing him because it does not seem like it is over for us yet. I also feel like we are getting to know him more since we have seen him so much lately and it is becoming more personal. Between me feeling better about yesterday and you guys encouraging me on I feel I can get through this and there is still hope.

gi- I hope that in these last two months since your miscarriage each day has gotten better. What does your doctor think? After my first miscarriage they just said it is a freak thing and they don't think much of one but I know how scary it is.

jenice--I hope your daughter will have a sibling soon. It is unfair that you would have to go through so much to have one child but then again to have another. But just think you never gave up the first time and look what happened.

[gi]

Hi Ert,

Glad you are feeling better. Hopefully you will get the answers you need from these tests and then put a plan in action. They dont test for recurrent miscarriages in Ire till your 3rd! They also think mine was just one of those things, the sac and yolk looked great and in right position but baby measured 1wk behind and had weak heartbeat at 1st scan, died following wk I opted for d&c for next day as was told my body still thought it was pregnant and would prob. take 3 mths for miscarriage - i could not deal with that once i knew it had died i needed to get "rid"of it, though i kept my pregnancy stick as a reminder.
Thanks for asking i am feeling great, it has gotten much easier to deal with and i am at the stage where i am grateful to have gotten pregnant at least now i know i can do it its just a matter of when. I have already started taking my meds for my FET as of yesterday and i am soooo excited, so fingers crossed my 2 little frozen babies will survive the thaw and transfer scheduled for about 2 wks time I am one of these people who dont like waiting around and on the day of d&c me and doc were already talking about the fet!! Come hell or high water we will get there, its a battle that we will win. I am always here if you need a shoulder to cry on or just to rant and rave as sometimes our families and friends dont really know what we are going thro. and its hard putting on a brave face.

gi xxx

[jenice]

Gi, sorry to hear about your miscarriage.It can be heartbreaking I had 2 tubal pregnancies before my daughter. I had couple of surgeries.Now I can't get pregnant IVF here I come!!!!! Two cancelled cycles so far, so this one should be in my favor.What is the saying good things come in 3's.Good luck with FET cycle you sound excited and you should be.I'm thankful for being a mom. I think when you go through so much you really appreciate being a parent. Even my hubby was very involved in everything which some Dads I hate to say aren't . I figure the more I try the closer my dream will come true Keep in touch and tons of baby dust to ya

[jenice]

ERT, I'm glad your starting to feel a little better.Just take one day @ a time. Sometimes I get overwhelmed with emotion and then take some deep breathes it seems to help. I'm glad your feeling comfortable with your DR. I trust my DR with my life!!!! She actually caught my tubal pregnancy before it ruptured.She is very compassionate and always listened to me.After my daughter was born I sent her a letter thanking her for my miracle and enclosed a picture of my daughter. I am very thankful for this technology we have today.Good luck with your tests and wishin you lots of baby dust!!!!!

[elles]

hi ert

i know how you are feeling. Isufferd from infertility for 8 years and it was really hard. to make matters worse IVf is not available in my country so i depended only on nature and prayers and let me tell you that it paid off. On 13th April 2008 i gave birth to My little miracle name kerryl- maria and she really is a prayer answerd.
So please let me reassure you that you are in my prayer everyday. I am convince that oneday you will post a reply telling your great news that a miracle has happen.
so all the best to you and your husband.
elles

[*Ert*]

elles--- Thank you for sharing your story. I know I have to keep the faith and hope that it will happen for us. When I get down I just remind myself that I am going to be a mom. Whatever way that happens that is a for sure. I am so happy for you. You must enjoy and love your daughter so much.

gi- how is your cycle going? Have you had your tansfer yet. I am praying for you!

jenice- how are you doing? When will you be starting your ivf cycle.

[gi]

Thanks elles nice to know miracles do still happen.

Ert thanks for asking i am doing a fet and on my 2nd week of meds hopefully transfer will be thurs week (fingers crossed they survive the thaw) i am excited but time is flying by j and i are on a small hol in Kerry and really relaxing - had a hot stone massage and a facial this am and it was bliss!! Have a scan on monday so should know more then. How are you doing?? J gave me a gold angel necklace yesterday when we arrived at the hotel to always remind me of our little angel and i cried for the 1st time in ages, its good to cry sometimes and i am sure it will get much easier. Will keep you informed about my transfer

gi xxx

[elles]

hi ert

i am happy to hear that your spirit is up and you are no longer feeling too sad. like i told you i was like you and at times i even told my husband to go and marry someone else because i was unable to have children. But he was very understanding and loving and he stood by me, now when i look at baby kerryl-maria i am so happy that we stood by eachother.

yes you are right , i am really enjoying my little miracle to the full. I know one day you will email me and tell me that your prayers has been answerd . I will keep my finger cross for you.. If you want send me your email adress and i will send you the photo of my little miracle.
god bless you

elles

[elles]

hi gi

nice to hear that you are on a holiday. Make the most of it. You are in my prayer every day and nice to hear that you believe that miracle do happens. My little miracle will be 16 months on thursday and she is a real hand full. But i am enjoying everymoment of it. have a nice break.

elles