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gem
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Post by gem »

Hi buddies
Hope everyone is ok,I'm having a negative day today I dont feel any pg signs and just keep thinking I dont think I can cope with another negative :( Soz guys I'm feeling sorry for my self today I will try to find my pma and just think I've got another week to go I think I will be grey by then.I had an acupuncture session yesterday and it was really relaxing I think I fell asleep which I dont usually do so I'm hoping that as done some good I have done so much extra like chienese meds and acupuncture and I 've been taking asprin since ec I stopped caffiene including choc when I started injection so if this doesnt work I dont know what else to try.Sorry to be down and I promise I will shake myself and pull my self together,I think as we are on our 4th go I'm getting a bit dishearted.Sorry again I had to get it off my chest as dont want to put my negative thoughts on to dh.
I will be back later to catch up with everyone but my brekkie is calling
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Amithis
You poor love
I know you cant do anything RE: the out burst so now you will have to try and be positive and find a way of copeing with it , cause at the moment your relationship with your DH Matters especially now cause this is your time to support one another , Im sure he wouldnt have done it on purpose, perhaps he needs to tell people so that he can talk about it and get PMA as he dosent go on a web site . after you can shout :lol: I have always been open with friends and family and my staff ONLY:
1 I am a Boss and I didnt want them to think I was in a bad mood all the time and I also needed people to cover me when scans came up (do my clients )
2. All my friends have had their children and I didnt want them bugging me on "isnt it about time"
3. Same with Family

I have to say that it was the best decition I could have made as I find noone pitties me they support me , they stay out of my way but are there when I fall and they dont make a big deal of it so that it isnt the topic of conversation every day they only talk about it if I bring it up, honestly if your friends are good friends they will be there for you not pitty you and when your pushing your babies down the street people that dont know you that well will think theres the girl with the precious miricle isnt it great.

You need to focus on your cycle now kill him later!!!!!

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Hi buddies,

Jaye - Sorry you got a negative test but you shouldnt have done it till Wednesday so it may still work for you. Lots of girls test early and get negative only to find a positve on the proper day. Have some faith - your fortune teller needs to get the other bit right as well! I havent told anyone at work esp by Boss and sometimes wish I had done just so he unerstands. You are lucky to have a female boss as more chance her her understanding than most of us have.

Sue - Well done on 3 x Grade 1 embies. Hope you are keeping a PMA for the 2WW. When I was having assisted hatching I ended up not getting to ET and this time I have Donor eggs so probably wont need it.

Gem - Sorry you are feeling a bit negative. I know what you mean - we are on our 4th go as well and no success so far. Try to be positve - there are lots of people who succeed after multiple failures. There is always a chance.

Dagny - I am pleased to hear you are almost ready to start again. Hope it all goes well for you this time.

Traci - Does it feel strange knowing your donor is stimming? I think I will find that odd when I get that far. Is it you or her that has a scan on Friday? Does your clinic tell you how she gets on? Mine has said they wont until the end so it will be like the 2WW twice.

Caz - 12 folies so far is good. Hope EC goes well. What day will it be? I can understand how DH feels re the donor thing. I am in the same boat with donor eggs and I wanted them to tell me there was 100% no chance with my own eggs before I went the donor route. They couldnt - just told me I would have a much bette chance. Anyway I finally made that decision and i am now hoping it will work out for me.

Bronagh - Good luck with the sniffing.

Nickie88 - Hope the next week goes quickly so you can start d/r.

JenF - It sounds like good news that you have two new follies at 13 just int he last few days. Hope todays scan goes well too.

Staci - Chocolate Martinis - sound lovely but i will (hopefully) leave them for 10 months or so. Sorry that DH told eveyone at the Christening Party. I'm sure he thought that was the best thing. We told no one for the first couple of time and have recently told more people and it feels a bit like a weight of my mind. The donor eggs issue hasnt been shared but family and some friends know the rest. I hope your neighbours will be supportive.

Anyway - My af has finally arrived albeit 10 days late so I am very relieved. My d/r scan is Friday so hoping all Ok so donor can start on her stims and me on my HRT.

Keep smiling eveyone.

Love Allison.
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Post by Sue25 »

hello Girls
Well Ive not posted for a few days but I been on reading all the time .Our ET was on Thursday and the medical staff where just great dispite our early problems we had which admin staff at the start . The ET went well one egg the other two did not divivied, well it only take one so fingers crossed I off work this week but I,m not sure if it a good idea I have quite a psysical job and I know what would happen If I went in. But I keep cry a anything just watched trisha ,what trash all thoughs people who have children and don,t want them and here we are .I think I need more PMA
We was asked last night to a family Christening next month ,by text i think thay are avoiding speaking to me ,we have not told them about this ivf but thay know about the past I was really hurt to think thay can,t even speak to me ,like I some kind off sad freak DH say I,m getting thing all out off proportion well it is niece,s baby, DH said maybe thay are busy, the text came for her mum .Well I sure their are a lot more importent things in life
Gem & Sue I think our test days will be about the same, mine is on the 30th April
Trace hope you are well and felling positive again
Bye for now Sue xxx
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Hi Girls

Staci - I woud have been annoyed at DH for saying what he did......we had a similar situation during treatment and DH was going to go to the Christening on his own (turned out neither of us went as af arrived and we were both miserable) but he was just going to say I was ill....but as you said yourself, he has been good and there is not point getting yourself more upset by arguing about it.......tell him how you feel and how you want him to act in the future. And lets face it..........men are literal beings and dealing with emotional subjects is never their best subject..........forgive him on account of being a man!!

Caz - how are you feeling?? My thoughts are with you this week girl!

As for me..............well can't believe it, todays scan showed three good sized follies, so all being well...........I will have my DI after all!!! Yipee!!!!!!! so its likely to be tomorrow or Wednesday and then the 2ww........which I intend to turn into the 2w forget about it.........

Traci - Hope you are good...... you're damn right about the alcohol, it must have been the champagne and port that did the trick!

Love to all

JenFxx
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Post by Tania »

Hello everyone

Well today, which is a few days into my injections, I am having a few pains, sort of around myovaries. Just wondered if this is normal. I have felt find on these injections so far but I feel quite uncomfortable today.

Stacis, I really understand all you were saying about your DH telling everyone. Mine didn't do that exactly but he went out with his dad and got upset and blurted it out. I got a bit annoyed later, and I know I shouldn't but I told him that we could have discussed it first if he wanted to tell his Dad. I then felt that i should tell my dad (both our mums died a while ago) as I didn't want my dad to think later that I hadn't told him but had told DPs dad.

NOw a few people know but luckily they don't say too much as they realise I don't want them to keep asking questions, like 'has it worked yet?' I also don't want everyone looking at us thinking 'you poor things'etc but we have had to cope a lot with so much 'don't you want children?' It gets to us from time to time, especially because a lot of people I know have got pregnant, 'by accident'. I have a lot of friends quite a bit younger than me and they don't seem too careful and now at this stage it gets annoying.

Anyway, thats enough of that. I have my scan on Wednesday to see if I have enough follies or, which is what I am worried about, that they will say I have overstimulated.

Good luck to you all

Tanya
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Post by Allison »

Hi buddies,

Sue - I had been wondering how you got on. Am I right in thinking you had one embie to go back and the other two hadnt divided? Hope that embie is burrowing in well and you will get a BFP in a couple of weeks time.

Its a good idea of take some time off work if you have a physical job. Will you go back to work next week or wait until after your test? I know what you mean about watching daytime TV. Programs like Trisha are awful as they invariably have people having kids by accident and most of them seem inacapable of being proper parents at all. Its so unfair when you think of what we all go through to have a child.

What were the problems you had with the Clinic to begin with? I must have missed some of your early posts.

I know how you feel about the christening. We had an instance a year or so ago when my friend had her little boy christened. She told us when it was etc and told us to keep the weekend free then....we heard nothing - got no invite etc at all. I was so upset as I know all of our other (fertile) friends went but I suppose infertile people were not welcome. I havent talked to her about it as I dont think I could without getting upset. Maybe she thought she was doing me a favour as I would find it hard???

JenF - Glad your scan went OK and good luck for DI tomorrow or Wednesday.

Tayna - I think a lot of girls get pains nr the ovaries so I dont think it is unusual. Talk to the nurse if you are concerned. Dont worry about overstimulating - they will check your scan/bloods regulary to check that this isnt going to happen.

Love to all
Allison
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HI all
Well - I want to tell my family and friends but DH doesnt want anyone to know - so thats a bit of a nightmare! As it is my mum, sister and my boss know. And they are have all been fab - v pleased they know.

My ovaried starting to feel pretty bloated now - have last injection at 10pm tonight and ec Wednesday. DH has TESE tomorrow. He is SO nervous and we keep bickering -which is just stupid. Dont think I'm being that supportive at the moment - just so focused on myself - which is a bit screwed up. TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH this bit eh?

Jen - SOOOO pleased that your DI is going ahead - PLEASE GOD, if I get that far - we'll be on 2ww togther!

Tania - Dont worry about the sore ovaries (like stitch/ bruising??) that normal. Remember they are growing LOTS!!

Gen - try to be more +ve , but I know its SO tough. I keep trying to think of all the nice things we can do if I dont get PG - to try to cheer myself up. Not sure it helping tho.

Gosh - feels like we're all a bit down today. we all need a choclate martini or 5 I reckon!!

Love to everyone else.
Will catch up with you tomorrow after DH's TESE - please pray they find some!

Cazxxxx
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Caz and dh hope everything go ok tomorrow with the TESSE,I'l be thinking of you both.
All our family know and our close friends and some people at work,I find it easier esp at work re having time off for scans and ec then I akways have the 1st 2ww off,this will be the 1st time I've had all the 2ww off,work have been lovely about it with us the longer we have been having treatment the less we lie its like the "norm" to have ivf now,but to other people who dont know I always say may be next year!

I was wondering what you guys would do...
On Weds its dh's cup final he plays in a sunday team and it sthere cup final on weds,dh is really looking forward to it as he says hes 29 and never played in a cup final,the team have got a bus on and my mum,dad and brother are going and dh's mum and dad but because I only had et on friday I like to rest and stay in the house for a week after et,so we've said I wouldnt go,I'm really disapointed as I havent really seen dh play footy and I know how important it is to dh and I dont want dh's team mates to think his wife isnt there to support him,but I dont think I 'm up to it I hate being outside for the 1st week I know its sounds stupid but I feel really valuable (fragile) if thats makes sense,and its not as though I'm just sitting in some ones house you've got to jump up and shout and support the team,so I know I've rambled on but what would you guys do would you stay at home and rest or would you go and support dh,dh is really understanding and said he know its too soon after et and if I go and it doesnt work then I will blame myself for going and it not working.
Sorry I've rambled on and on.....
Just like to say me an dh have been together 8 years today-oh my god!
Oh my god a week tomorrow and we will know if it as been 4th time luckly for us or not.
Hope everyone else is ok
Catch up with everyone tomorrow
Love Gemxxxx
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Hello everyone! I am new to this, having just discoved this great website. I am on my second cycle of IVF - day 4 of my injections already and my first scan is tomorrow. I have to start prednisolone too in a few days as my NK cell count was borderline. I have already begun to feel bloated - water logged acutally, am drinking lots through out the day, but I am still not looking forward to the steroids! Is anyone else taking them? How do you feel??? Is it really uncomfortable :shock: Also, does anyone know about excersise, ie how much is OK or helpful for the stims?? Also, I'm getting acupunture once a week to get an 'energy balance' - is anyone else finding this helpful? I would really appreaciate anyone's vews on this. Thank you!!
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Hi girlies

Caz - Love hugs and lots of luck for tomorrow and Wednesday!!

Gem - It is a difficult one...............its what you feel comfortable with. If it were me and I wanted to go, well then I would........I feel that if treatment is going to work then it will.........if it is meant to be. Just take care of yourself as much as possible but try to let life go on as normal as possible, doing things to take your mind away from it all can only be good as the mind and hormones are a powerful combination!

Sorry to preach on........Its just me, I've tried the do nothing approach and I think it only made me worse!!!

Look after yourself

Love

JenFx
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Hi Zeena

Welcome to the site. I found it on my 3rd cycle and I wish I had found it sooner. Everyone is so helpful and supportive and you will find it invaluable. Good luck with your treatment. Some girls have been told not to exercise too much during treatment especially near ECand ET. Something to do with the blood flow to the uterus.

Let us know how you get on.

Caz - Good luck for your DH tomorrow and you both on Wednesday.

Gem - Perhaps someone could video it for you. I know it wont be quite the same but you will see when DH scores a goal :D I know what you mean about not wanting to go out. I had to go to my DH's brothers 50th party the same day as my ET on my 2nd treatment and I felt crap and should have been lying down.

Good luck one and all 8) Be positive. PMA, PMA, PMA.

Love Dagny xkx :wink:
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3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Hi all,

Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences with telling people/people finding out and for understanding exactly how I was feeling! We did tell family from the start. It was kind of hard to avoid since they had all been asking us what we were waiting for regarding having children and the old "we're working on it" excuse was getting rather lame after 3 years. At any rate, they've all tried really hard to be supportive but kind of border on annoying because I can't talk to a single one of them without being asked what the next procedure is or how the shots are going or some other well intentioned question which just serves to annoy me! I suppose that at least the people in our neighborhood will not say anything to me about it. I decided just to try to forget about it. If there is a next time, then I will make sure I agree with DH in advance that we are not telling anyone!

Well, anyway....

Jaye,

Sorry about the -tive but Allison is right. I was told that there is a period of a few days between the HCG hormone shot they give you leaving your system and your body actually producing it on its own so don't give up hope yet. When are you do to go in for your test?

How did you boss end up reacting to your e-mail? I hope she was understanding? I have to give you a lot of credit for being able to work through all this.
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Gem,

I've read in a number of places that one of the common symptoms of pregnancy is actually no symptoms so try to stay positive.

The situation with your husband's game is a tough one. How many days has it been since your transfer? A lot of clinics here are of the opinion that, if implantation is going to occur, it will have done so after a few days. They say that after a few days there is not much you can do to jeopardize that. It it has worked, it's worked and there's no harm in going back to your normal activities. My clinic is pretty strict but even they just require me to stay for 20 minutes after the transfer then remain on "light activity" for 5 days. That means no lifting anything over 10 lbs., no exercise, no strenuous house cleaning, etc. It is fine if I leave the house to do errands, etc. and they have no problem with people going back to work or traveling the day after the transfer. That having been said, if you are entirely uncomfortable with the idea of going then just follow your instincts. I'm sure your DH would love for you to be there but that he would fully understand if you don't go.

Perhaps if you asked your Dr. or a nurse at your clinic if they thought it would be safe for you to go and they were to tell you yes, then you would feel comfortable enough to go?

Just a thought.
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Jen,

I'm so happy things ended up working out! Good luck with the DI tomorrow (or Wed.).

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Tania,

I'm not feeling anything in my ovaries yet, but I just started the stims Sat. night so maybe it's too early. I go in for my first check tomorrow. I'm just hoping I'm where they want me to be so I don't have to raise any of the doses.
The one thing I am having a problem with is huge welts on my legs being caused by my Repronex shots. The nurse said that, if it continues, they'll have to switch me over to IM injections :(
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Zeena,

Glad to have you join us! It looks like you are at about the same place I am. I started stims Sat. This is my first (hopefully last) IVF. Did you use anything to downreg first (like Synarel or Lupron)? I'll also be on steroids but only for 4 days after the EC. Regarding exercise, that was one of my first questions on this board too! I have been working out everyday for years (occasionally take a day off) so not being able to will drive me crazy. Anyway, my clinic told me not to do anything that gets my heart rate up after the 4th day of stims...something about blood flow getting cut off and this problem called ovarian torsion. Other people's clinics seem to say it is ok up to EC but just to keep your heart rate below a certain level. I think I'm just going to base things on how I'm feeling. I'll continue exercising but just cut down the intensity to whatever feels comfortable.
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Caz,

I guess your DH is probably needing some attention right now and I can certainly understand how you just don't have it to give. Is there a recovery period after a TESE? Is he going to be able to bring you to the EC?

My DH hurt his eye badly yesterday and was complaining about it all day today (which he never does unless he is really in pain). Meanwhile, I was feeling horrid. My legs are completely swollen from the shots which doesn't help matters and it seems like I've had a headache for 2 weeks straight now. He said something like "you know how it is when you have pain somewhere that makes you unable to think about anything else?" I really felt like saying "Yes, HELLO? I've had it for days now!" But, I forced myself to keep my mouth shut and tried to be attentive to him. It's hard having both people in the relationship down at the same time during this. It's like you really need one of them to be completely strong and I guess it usually has to be the man since women are the ones that have to deal with most of these treatments.

Anyway, I hope things go ok with your DH tomorrow and for you on Wed. I'll be thinking of you!

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Well, it is getting late here and I have to get up early for my Dr. appt. (I forget what it's like to sleep late since starting this).

Hope everyone is doing well and that we are all in better, less stressed out moods tomorrow!

Staci
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Post by zeena12 »

Thank you Dagny and Staci for your advice. I did downreg with Syneral - really horrible but only for the first minute or so afterwards!

Staci, I will definately ask at the clinic today but I think in any case I will stay off intense excercise for now. I find that I'm quite exhausted in the evening when I get back from work anyway! Will you be taking Heparin as well as steroids? You're so lucky you need them only for 4 days, mine is 12 weeks (if successful) - but apparantly it is only a very low dose!

I've got to go to work now, but I'll post tonight when I get back from my scan.

Love,
Zeena
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Hi Girls,

Sorry I haven't joined in much, it's been hectic, but I am reading the board and keeping up with you all. I'm on 6th day of down regging so a while to go yet. Just had news that one of my best friends is 3 months pg, this is her second! Feeling that it's not fair at the moment what with my sister just giving birth - I was the one who was trying before any of them and still not there!! It's very hard sometimes to think that I should have produced the first grandchild and perhaps when mine does come along it won't be as special!! :(

Caz - just wanted to say good luck for tomorrow buddy - looks like you have a nice crop! Hope your DH isn't too bad, you'll have to cut him some slack, you know that what he is going through is 10 times worse than you!............he's a bloke and its the whole cold/flu thing!!! At the end of the day it's difficult for everyone and you just have to be as gentle on each other as you can.

Let us know how it went, I be thinking of you.

Good luck to everyone.
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me 38 DH 47 - TTC - 3.5 years - tubal infertility
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