Anyone cycling July/August 09?

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tortillachip
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Post by tortillachip »

Thank you, thank you, thank you for ALL the wonderful words. You gals are truly inspirational. I do have a question: Why do you think my BETA number is so great? I don't really understand what the number itself means. Any explanations?

Katie: I'm so sorry! You will get there,yes! Have you tried acupuncture? It really helped me and it is supposed to increase bloodflow to the Uterus and help your body absorb the fertility meds. Hang in there!

Penny: I started to feel the meds about a week into them, but be grateful you'rwe not feeling them yet. I felt like I wanted to cry all the time!

Dillysgirl: I feel your pain. T I think this has happened to most of us. I just rode it out and finally got some relief.

Lisa: Good luck with your transfer. Lay low. Stay positive. Relax and try to keep yourself busy in bed...read a book, watch movies, talk on the phone. Every hurdle we jump gets us to our goal!

Nicole: The doc said to put some heat on my butt after the injection and lightly massage it. this helps distribute the progesterone and gets rid of those pesky bumps.

Babiesgalore: Good luck with your third BETA! What were the first 2?

Annissabug: I'm so sorry! It sounds like your hubby is having a hard time with it too. Going through this process is so emotional and draining for us, I think sometimes we forget about them. You're in my prayers!

Faith: I'm all about positive thinking and prayer! The last 2 times I did this my mindset was different. I constantly thought, what if it doesn't work? This time I thought, It WILL work!
ME: 41, hydrosalpinx
HUBBY: 39, Perfect!

IVF 1 & 2 BFN
IVF 3 July 2009 BFP! BETA 1: 207 2: 376 3: 932
IVF 4 & 5 July, Sept 2012 BFN

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Post by Faith9455 »

Hi all,

Katie-so sorry for you cancel :( What a bummer!


I had my BW/US after 5 days of stim and had very litle growth from 2 days ago :( My lining looks great, but I still only have 6 follies that are measurable. Two are measuring 10 and the rest are 9 and below. They told me this is typical with PCOS patients, starting slow and then gaining momentum. They have to be carefull with the meds because I have 20-Something small follies that are as of yet unmeasurable. I hate to be paranoid, but I'm really scared this is going too slow and I'm not responding the way I should. have any of you started out slow and then gained momentum in the last half of stims? Can the unmeasurable ones really catch up?

baby dust to all!


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Post by BabiesGalore »

I got the results of my third beta and it is a whopping 10,669. Tortillachip, my numbers are in the signature line. Finally sinking in though being cautiously optimistic. I go in for my ultrasound on the 19th. Hugs to all of u.
Me-40; DH-42;
IVf 1&2 3/08 5/08 BFN; FET1 10/08 BFP: lst baby boy at 17.5w. IVF3:7/09 BFP!! Beta 947; 4689; 10367; U/S 8/19: h/B!!! Baby girl born on 4/6/10
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BabiesGalore: Those are HUGE numbers! Does that mean multiples? One of the nurses said that a first BETA over 350 usually meant multiples!
ME: 41, hydrosalpinx
HUBBY: 39, Perfect!

IVF 1 & 2 BFN
IVF 3 July 2009 BFP! BETA 1: 207 2: 376 3: 932
IVF 4 & 5 July, Sept 2012 BFN

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Tortillachip: I am not sure. I think it also depends when u're first beta was done Mine was 12dp5dt while u'rs was much earlier. But when i plug in these numbers on http://babymed.com/Tools/pregnancy/hcg/Default.aspx it shows up as slightly above the high for singleton pregancy but i have been told that only the u/s will be able to tell if it is multiples. Either way, i just want a healthy pregnancy. When do u go back for your 2nd beta?
Me-40; DH-42;
IVf 1&2 3/08 5/08 BFN; FET1 10/08 BFP: lst baby boy at 17.5w. IVF3:7/09 BFP!! Beta 947; 4689; 10367; U/S 8/19: h/B!!! Baby girl born on 4/6/10
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Thanks for all of your kind words. I think my meltdown is done now. I was trying to have a nice cry, but we have a great dane & english mastiff pup who will turn into canine clowns when you are upset. With the 2 of them trying to sit on your lap, how can you cry? Its a riot because they're both huge but dont realize it. I spoke with the nurse coordinator to make sure I have it all correct, I did hear him right, start BCPs today. So I started the day on Aug cycle & by the afternoon am on Sept. cycle? Ok then, I sure cant say that they left me hanging, can I? I knew something was wrong when my 1st E2 was just 20, then the next was 177 real low! & today they said I didnt even break 400. So I'll assume its for the best. I've been trying to cycle with michele since June , but jeez! OK so I guess now I'm Sept / Oct cycle. What can I do but go along for the ride? :wink:

dogz / tortilla / gi - thanks guys! your words really touched me! xoxo

babies - thanks! He said its due to low ovarian reserve & wants to think more about the next protocol. Girl, you are so lucky!!! Your beta is no doubt multiple blessings!!! I'm sooo very thrilled for you! - xoxo

sunny / julie - Are you guys ok? I think we are all a bit worried about you two. We are here if you need us - xoxo

babydust - how did it go for you today? I'm hoping better than mine did! - xoxo

lisa - tell DH to shush with talk like that! Jeez! men! - GL with ET!!

penny - its early for you to feel much yet, enjoy it now. Soon you will feel like a popcorn maker must feel! xoxo

dilly's girl - one word - colace = lifesaver!

michele - Well it seems that I do get to cycle with you after all!!!
We'll get there, soon - xoxo
DOR/ hydro tubes removed
IVF #7 -FET with donor embies 2/10 -BFP!
DS born 11/10
Trying for a sibling
4 FETs with donor embies - all BFN
FET with donor embies - one last try.. Feb 2013 - BFP!
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Hey ladies,
So this Saturday is the big day, my ER. Im super excited. I take my HCG shot tomorrow which Im freaking out about, I just cant get over the fact that its a butt shot in my muscle. :shock: But I will get it done. So I pray all goes well, I have another bw/us tomorrow morning.

CT_Michele: can you please change me on your list. I have ER Aug15th.

Anissabug: I'm am so sorry to hear that. We may not know it sometimes but our DH feel a great deal of the pain also. You guys just need to supprt eachother and know that its not the end of the road. God has a plan for everyone and everything believe it or not happens for a reason. Keep the faith. We are all here for you.

Katie: its hard having to start over but you are right behind us. Just hang in there and know that you will get your precious gift.

Babies: Those numbers are awesome. You definetley have some bunS in that oven lol. That is wonderful. Congrats

Julie/Sunny: R u guys ok? We are all thinking about you.

Penny: im on day 7 of stims and feel so full and heavy, you can literally feel a lump near my ovaries and its very sore. You will feel it soon.

Lisa: GL with your ET, one step closer to your goal

Faith: Try and stay positive, give it a little more time to grow. It will get there.

Keep everyone posted tomorrow. Baby dust to all
Me-24
DH-26
1st IVF July09
Started Lupron 7/25
Started Menopur/Follistim 8/6
ER Aug 15
ET Aug 18
Beta #1 229, 8/30
Beta #2 501, 9/1
Beta #3 2,150, 9/5
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Post by lw918 »

tortilla: go to :
http://babymed.com/tools/pregnancy/hcg/

Plus in your HCG numbers and it will show them in comparison to the norm.

My first beta was 125 9dp5dt and my second was 317 11dp5dt. They both measured above the high end of normal for a singleton, but low for twins. The nurse said it can really go either way.
Beta's are really hard to judge. Anything over 5 is a maybe and anything over 25 is usually definitive.
However, everyone is different- I ran incredible high with my daughter and some theories suggest girls start off with a higher HCG level. Some women have a 30 something for a really healthy pregnancy and some women have 300 for the same :) All your HCG can really tell you is if you are in fact pregnant, and if that pregnancy is progressing.


Here is a chart that I found at http://www.bobrow.net/kimberly/birth/hcglevels.html. You'll see how vastly different HCG levels can be.


from conception from LMP (mIU/ML or IU/L)
7 days 3 weeks 0 to 5
14 days 28 days 3 to 426
21 days 35 days 18 to 7,340
28 days 42 days 1080 to 56,500
35 - 42 days 49 - 56 days 7,650 to 229,000
43 - 64 days 57 - 78 days 25,700 to 288,000
57 - 78 days 79 - 100 days 13,300 to 253,000
17 - 24 weeks 2nd trimester 4060 to 65,400
25 wks to term 3rd trimester 3640 to 117,000
After several days postpartum nonpregnant levels (<5)"
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Post by tunieczka »

CT_Michele: I forgot to ask you to add me to the 2ww list with my BETA being on the 21st.

Well today is only my 2nd day post transfer and I am still experiencing so mild cramping when I move or walk.

Since my dh is working full time during this week, we both decided to move into my parents place, so that I can take it easy.

My mom is so over caring, that I was instructed by her, that I have to be on bed rest until next week.
So I am really taking it easy with my mom looking after me in the day and my husband when he comes home. Hope that all of this at-least helps because I am slowly getting bored of doing nothing.
I also doesn't help knowing that it is over 110 degrees outside and parents pool in the garden is just asking to take a dip in.

Any way, good luck to all
Me 28 - PCOS
Dh 34 - perfect
1st ivf
Et 10th August

BETA 21st August
14DPO beta -187
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Post by Anissabug »

Ladiebug,Tortilla,Amandamae,Babies,Gi Thank you ladies so much for your kind words and prayers! Unfortunately, I am not pregnant! :cry: I received another BFN! the office said that they don't know why it just happens even though every thing was perfect!?

My DH is very caring and supportive and I have to remember that I am not the only one that is in pain. He will do what ever I want to. We already talked about a FET in Sept.

I will check in later and stick with all you ladies. Thanks again for all your support!

Michele - please change me to BFN! Maybe I will cycle with you next month :)
ME - 34 DH - 36
IVF #1 - March/April 09 - BFN
IVF #2 - July/Aug 09 - BFN
FET #1 & #2 - BFN
IVF #3 - April/May 10 - BFN
IVF #4 August/Sept 10
ER 8/30 ET 9/2 5 embies
1st Beta 9/13: 394 BFP!!
2nd Beta 9/15: 831
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Post by Iamhopeful »

This is my first attempt at doing multiple personals...hope I do not screw it up.

BabiesGalore: speaking of multiple...WOW!

Katie99 & Anissabug: Sorry about the news both have you have received. Hang in there...we are all tough but sometimes need to have a good cry and feel sorry for ourselves and that is more than FINE! Sending <HUGS> to both of you.

ladybug99: So excited for you to be going for ER on Sat. I will definatley be thinking about you and praying for a GREAT outcome with this next step.

In the past when I have used HCG (Ovidrell) my RE gave the stomach as an option. Is everyone else triggering in the behind?

Lisa10: I LOVE stay-cation, Good Luck on Thursday with your ET. Take it easy and loads of sticky dust headed your way.

tortillachip: - Congrats on your BFP...CELEBRATE!

Penny: I am right there with you girl and sometimes think I am over analyizing everything..but it is soooo hard not to and seems to be the thing to do around here. Wish there was a little window we could peak in there and see what the heck was going on.

AFM: PUT ON YOUR DANCIN SHOES LADIES...I need the grow follies grow dance big time! Went today for BW&US and after 5 days of stims I only have 4 follies around 13 (2 on each side) and 5 others on each side that are small. Hoping I can get these little ones to catch up quick. Estrodial was 237..which the nurse made no comment on. RE wants to transfer 3 embies and I was hoping to have some to freeze......HELP!
ME=39 Tubal Reversal
DH=31 No Known Issues
#1 IVF (Aug09) - Chemical
#2 IVF - Oct. 09 - BFP!
3rd U/S - Dec. 16th

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Iamhopeful: Thx so much, I wish my RE gave me the choice of getting the HCG in the stomach, mine is in the booty :cry: I am doing the dance for you right now lol. GROW FOLLIES GROW, I pray those follies grow. I have some small ones to so they are making me do stims for 1 more night, (Thank God, b/c that Menopur burns and is the worst) I hope I have some left over to freeze to b/c Im sharing half of my eggs I pray I get good quality eggs.
Me-24
DH-26
1st IVF July09
Started Lupron 7/25
Started Menopur/Follistim 8/6
ER Aug 15
ET Aug 18
Beta #1 229, 8/30
Beta #2 501, 9/1
Beta #3 2,150, 9/5
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Post by dogzrule »

hopeful - my trigger was in the stomach

Anissa - I am so very sorry hon. :cry:

ladybug - best of luck on your ER!!! Can't wait to hear how it went and how many ferts you get!
Me-36,DH-43
1st IVF July 2009 - BFP! 9dp5dt: 31;11dp5dt: 77;14dp5dt: 214; 18dp5dt: 548; 21dp5dt: 1883. DD born 3/30/2010
1st FET July 2011- BFP! 8/3 beta: 178, 8/5 beta 455. DD born 4/4/2012
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Hi ladies. I am home from my ER and they got 40 eggs! Now the wait until the fertilization report tomorrow. It is a freeze all cycle. I will transfer in a few months when life isn't so hectic (haha- wishful thinking right?)

Faith- I have PCOS too. I was with a previous doc who wasted my time and money. I had 3 cycles with her- 1st: 19 eggs- OHSS, no transfer- I was nearly hospitalized. Of 19 eggs i barely had 2 to freeze and that FET was BFN. 2nd- only had 2 follies, not worth it for ER, but she didn't even try IUI. #3- 9 eggs- only 2 fertilized. Needless to say, after all that I changed RE's. PCOS is a tough one. You really have to go to a doc who knows it WELL. My first cycle with my new doc resulted in 36 eggs, 25 fertilized- NO OHSS- felt fabulous the next day. It was a freeze all. FET 1 month later resulted in my daughter. PCOS's patients DO NOT respond well to the HCG trigger. This cycle too was a freeze all- I use lupron as a trigger only. You can't do a fresh transfer with lupron triggers, it is not advised. It is also not possible to OHSS with the lurpon trigger. Stats show that BFP rates are higher from FET's that we a freeze all cycle. Just something to consider...sorry to ramble! PM me if you have any more Q's- I know this IVF/PCOS stuff like the back of my hand!
IVF/ICSI 3/07 Froze All 36 eggs
FET 5/07 BFP; DD born early (26 weeks) 10/07
IVF/ICSI 8/09 Froze all 30 eggs
FET 11/09 BFP! TWINS from just 1 frostie! YIKES.
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Iamhopefull- I'm basically at the same place you are. I have 6 follies growing that are all 10 and below after 5 days of stim. I do however have 22 small ones that could wake up. My doc upped my menopur from 225 units to 300 units for the next 2 days to get things going. The nurse seemes optomistic and explained that we just need the right dose and enough time. It's still hard to go in hoping to see a big jump and then nada.

rikares-

I'm actually participating in a study they are doing on PSCOS/IVF. Half the people are on Follistim and half are on Menopur. I do trust the clinic and feel they understand PCOS, but it's hard for me to understand. WOW 40 eggs for you, that's amazing!!! I'm hoping for at least a dozed :)

Thanks for the info!


So now I just fix up more vials, inject and wait....
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