OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

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Hi all...can I join?

Post by ajdec »

Hi all - I've been reading your stories over the past few days, and wanted to see if it's okay if I post once in a while? I'm VERY new to the whole IVF world. I'm reading your stories and realize how incredibly brave you all are....and I am hoping I can be as brave.

A little background...I am 30, my DH is 35. He has two children from a previous marriage, and I have no biochildren. DH had a vasectomy more than 8 years ago...thus here we are trying IVF for a baby of our own. So...given that, I am going into this with high hopes for a BFP given we don't have any other known fertility issues other than his vasectomy.

I just started my stimming meds last Friday. My initial concern is, after reading your posts, I'm wondering when the bloating feelings start? I am on menopure and bravelle. I think I'm worried about not moving along like I should be...

I am really looking forward to continuing to read your posts to provide a network of support. Only my DH and two close friends know that we are going through the IVF process...which can make it very difficult to not have anyone who really understands to talk to.

Thanks all! And I'm definitely saying prayers for all of you!
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Goodness, I took 3 days off and you gals added like 3 pages! Sorry I have been out of the loop but for good reason. First of all, I had injection training on Thursday 9-25 - fun fun! I got to stick myself in the belly and DH got to poke my backside. He was shaking. Anyway, it went well, if you can even say that.

What didn't go well was the basic tests the next morning. I flunked them so I can't move forward with IVF at this time. I had the HSG saline ultrasound. Looks like I have two tumors or polyps in there. I now will have surgery to remove them. I pray its not cancerous. I will keep you posted. I am waiting for a call today to schedule surgery this week.

I was supposed to start stims tonight. Looks like yet another obsticle in the road for me. I still have hope...

Babyhope

P.S. as far as updating on our history and present status, can't we just add it to our own sigs, we will all be responsible for updating ourselves. Will that work? I just don't know how to "activate" my signature.
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I figured out how to add my signature...and update.
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Welcome ot all the new ladies since i last posted!!

Melo_P The fact that you already have a DD from IVF should give us all hope that this crazy process works, so welcome - you are among friends here :D

babyhope1 So sorry to hear you are now going to have surgery... I've seen others have polyps, fibroids etc removed so i'm sure you will be back on track real soon! Surgery is never nice, but i had surgery in early July (tubes) and was on the bcp's end of July, and stimming in August so once its over you can look forward to getting started right away.... Keep us posted x x x

Well i went for my second accupuncture today and she put in a lot more needles than last time - again some hurt but the majority i didnt even feel at all. Its quite relaxing and i nearly fell asleep. SHe also put a heat lamp over my abdomen and told me that after AF i should so the following:

Locate the artery in my groin (kind of in my panties line inside my leg) you can feel it pumping if you press down, and i should press hard with both hands until i feel my leg go numb(about a minute and a half) then let go and repeat other side. She said it diverts blood from the leg to your reproductive organs and gets all the blood flowing to the uterus..... I'll be honest, i said i would do it (AF should be here next week) but i'm a bit skepital (and scared) to do it.. Has anyone EVER heard of this???????
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hi all. welcome melo and ajdec- my arms are open to anyone reaching out on here..and i find past success stories of IVF inspirational also.

kas- can't help you with the AP qustion, but i hope you figure it out.

for anyone new on here- to add data to your signature, which helps us all know each other better, go to your 'profile', (which is just above 'log out and your username'), and scroll down to signature to update.

as for me, i'm about to order my meds as i start stims in about 3 weeks. i'm FREAKED out. i get scared at this stage and kinda disconnect or just get bitchy. i'm so scared of failure that i almost don't want to try. but i've made some steps and reached out to old friends i've been avoiding because i'm too embarrassed to tell them about IF...and WHY am i embarrassed anyways?? i didn't do anything wrong. it's so illogical. i don't want to be a prisoner anymore- i don't like telling some people, but sometimes i don't like the other option either. i've been struggling with this for 4 years and have lost friends and connections with people as a result.
baby hope- good luck with your surgery and i hope you get the support you need as i imagine even the mention of 'cancer' and i'd be scared.

to everyone else- wishing you the best of today... i'm off to a massage appt and trying to keep busy....... karen
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First, my husband and I have been TTC for 11 years :cry: , the whole length of our marriage.

We recently found out that my husband's new insurance will cover expenses for one IVF cycle and one FET.

So, we are now at this point in time.

I have to have my tubes taken out before IVF. The surgery is scheduled for October 8th. A little over a week away. :!: I don't really know what to expect there, but I'm told it shouldn't be a big deal. My OB/GYN will be doing the laparoscopy(sp?).

I too don't know much about the IVF process. My RE said to call him once my surgery was done and we'd go over my IVF timeline.

We are going to do IVF before the end of December for sure, for insurance reasons, but I'm praying we can start the process in November. Whatever that process is.

I'm hoping that we are done with all tests and I can start the IVF meds soon.

I have to be honest though. I'm a little nervous about the idea of shots in the stomach :shock: every day, which the RE said I will have to do.

Well I hope to be in the November cycle with you ladies!!!

Baby dust to everyone!!!
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

Hi All,
I am having board withdrawls. I haven't been on since last night. We had a pipe bust at work onto our equipment so we didn't have Internet all day. :cry: I am lost without the internet.

JennLB25 -- Welcome to the board. Sorry you have to be here. I haven't had my tubes taken out so I don't know the process but i know there are several ladies on here that have been through that. The IVF process seems very scary before actually starting a cycle. I have learned just to take it one step at a time and it isn't as bad as it looks. The stomach shots are not bad at all, it just take time to get used to them. Believe me there have been lots of ladies on this board that were afraid of shots before IVF and now the shots don't even phase them. For me I am looking forward to the shots because that means I am one step closer on getting my BFP.


Karen - Don't be freaking out about starting stims. Just think of it as your next step toward getting PG. I know all the meds are a little over whelming but you have done this before and you can definatly do it again. Yes, you have a 50% chance of failure but you also have a 50% chance for a BFP. I am also kind of worried about my cycle. I am afraid of getting canceled again but there is nothing I can do to change the situation so why stress over it. Also, don't be asshamed or imbarressed about your issues and having to do IVF. It isn't your fault. That's kind of like being imbarressed because you have cancer or some other illiness. You didn't wish for it, it just happened. It makes you a much tougher lady and I think most people would commend you for trying so hard.

Babyhope - So sorry you are delayed and have to have surgery. I know it is a let down but maybe you will have a better chance of getting PG after the surgery. Keep us posted on what you are doing.

Kas - I have never heard about pressure on the atery of the groin to push blood to the uterus. i have never done acupunture so may that is why. I might even try it too, heck I ate the core of a pineapple last time to try and get a BFP. This sounds like a lot easier then that. :lol:

ajdec - Welcome to the board, glad you can join us. I don't know if it is so much that we are all brave but it is that we all want a baby so bad that we would do most anything to do it.
How are the stims going? When is your first u/s and b/w? I didn't feel any bloating to 4 or 5 days of stims. Depending on how many follies you have might depend on when you will start feeling something. Are the drugs driving you crazy yet? When I was on stims I caught myself trying to start fights with DH all the time. I had to bite my tounge and keep my mouth shut a lot. Keep us posted.


So mentioning bitting my tounge, I am going to do it now. Here is the story. I have a friend Mike, he is DH's best friend and a really good friend of mine. Him and his wife have been trying to get PG for about 3 years. Though 9 months out of that they were just off birth control, didn't actually try because they were planning their wedding. Anyway, she was on clomid for a while. Last May I was whineing on the boards that I was afraid she was PG and I couldn't take it if she was PG before me. Plus we were going on vacation at the end of May. She is one of those people that is always sick so I am sure once she get PG she will always be complaining. So I also didn't want her to be PG becuase I didn't want her crabbing all the time and ruining my vacation. I know I was being selfish but I have been trying to get PG longer then her, plus she is younger and has a lot more time then me. So long story short she wasn't PG and still isn't. They went to an RE a couple of weeks ago and now this week they will be doing an IUI. Now I asking all of you to send some P&PT's for them that this or one of their IUI's work for them. I know I will be devastated if she gets PG before me but I don't wish IVF on anyone so I am going to suck it up and wish them the best of luck that the IUI works for them.


Sorry about the long post.

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So far I'm not feeling much of anything from the stimming meds. Which of course freaks me out a bit! I feel like if they were working, then I'd be having some sort of reaction. I swear...I'd probably be complaining if I WERE having a reaction and here I am complaining that I'm NOT having a reaction! But, I'm going tomorrow for my second b/w and u/s. So I'm excited about that. I definitely want to hear the results and see if things are progressing.

I definitely understand the embarressed to talk about IVF thing. Literally only two people in my life know...two of my girlfriends. DH and I haven't told anyone. I think part of my reason is because I still want a PG to be a surprise...especially to my parents who don't have any biological grandchildren. I also don't think I want to have to explain everything about this process to everyone. I mean, if you're trying to get PG the "old fashioned way" you certainly don't tell everyone that you had sex last night! lol But at the same time...it makes it hard too. With really no one to talk to other than DH and my couple of friends, who really don't get it because they haven't been through it, it can be difficult.

On another topic...do you all journal about your IVF experiences? I have been really really feeling the draw to be writing down my feelings and emotions about all of this. I bought a journal today and am going to start tonight. And even further...I feel like I want to write to this baby that doesn't even exist yet. It's like I have all these feelings and hopes wrapped up in this process...it's like I'm already PG. And that simply makes me terrified of getting a BFN. The idea of mourning that negative is overwhelming... But I'm trying to stay positive...and I'm really acting/talking/telling myself that a BFP is on my way! :-)
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ajdec- i think journalling is a wonderful idea, the way you spoke of it- was inspiring, and i believe we should do whatever we feel compelled to do to help us through this. for me, i journalled through my last cycle, and often wrote letters to God, as if i was talking out loud to him.. it helped. and i also believe this is part of why i got PG last time; because God knew from me and from all our loved ones praying for us, that we REALLy wanted a baby. i figure if i tell the universe LOUD AND CLEAR that i want a baby...maybe it will come.

even though i had a m/c and was beyond devastated. i DON't regret getting PG and the short time i was PG. having that experience is what inspires me to continue right now on this quest..maybe that's god's plan for me- that i have to work at getting PG so that i will be a grateful, loving mom.. i have to admit, i've been a bit of a career, fiercly independent woman...so if this hadn't happened to me - maybe i'd have unwittingly been a less-grateful, selfish parent.

sometimes i can find meaning in what's happened so far with IF, but i'm not sure if i could if i never have a baby. i fear i'll become a bitter, jaded person if this doesn't 'work out'

chris- good for you regarding your friend..it's so tempting for me to be bitter. i was harboring bitter feelings towards an old work friend who immediately got PG a while back and seemed to always have the 'perfect life'..so last week i found out that her husband cheated on her and they broke up.. it took me hearing of ugly details of her imperfect life to want to get in touch with her. so i think 'how shallow or awful of me' . but y'know, this is just where i'm at alot of the time and i need to give myself a break too.

love you all, karen
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Hello Everyone!

I can relate to your story too Chris. A great friend of mine from high school (a guy) and his wife just found out they are having a second baby. I was so devastated. Now two of my sister-in-laws are pregnant and when the one found out I was so upset, but the other I was happy for. I don’t get the emotions that run through me sometimes with this. I know I should feel happy for the fortunate ones, but it just seems that they are the ones that seem to be so ungrateful for having children. Sometimes I feel like I am being punished for something. I know that no one can understand what we are going through unless they have been through it, but it still hurts. My DH just says if it wasn't meant to happen at least we still have one another. He believes that some of the people with children were probably given children to compensation for something else they are lacking. Well I am lacking a BABY so where is mine!!!

Sorry just a little moody today about this whole thing.

I do have a question – how long do we take the prescription medications before we do ER?
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foreverlove- what prescription medications are you speaking of? I took an Doxiciclin antibiotic from the day of starting stims till the day of ET. Also took medrol (steroid) for the day of ER to ET. I believe I took 81mg aspirin everyday after ER till I got my BFN. Gosh I was taking way too many drugs. Can't wait to do it again.

ajdec-I never thought of doing a journal. I spend most of my time after my BFN yelling to no one on my way home from work. Also once in awhile when I was in my house alone. Maybe a journal would have been a little more productive. I wouldn't worry too much about not having symptons on stims. Pretty soon you might be posting how crazy they are making you and how bloated you feel. Enjoy the normal feeling while you can. I don't think I felt normal from around the 5th day of stims till a week or so after my BFN.

Karen - Letters to God sounds also therapeutic. I am not a religious person so it would feel really weird to me but at this point I want to try whatever I can to get PG. I know it doesn't help at all when speaking of your M/C but there is a good thing that came out of that which shows that your body does know how to get PG. I have heard so many times that sometimes it just needs a kick start and once the body figures it out then you have a better chance next time. I really do believe that as long as you can produce a few good eggs then you will get your BFP.


Hope everyone is having a good day. Only 2 more days to go before the weekend. :lol:

Chris
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Chris: The medication I was talking about was the mediation the doctor will give me once it is time to start - the Lupron and Gonf (I think those are the two I will be doing). I feel so lost when I think about it because I really haven't comprehended what this is going to entail. :oops: :oops:
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foreverlove-I can't help you too much it all depends on what protocol you are on. The lupron is usually used to kind of put your ovaries to sleep before you begins stims. For my cycle I will be on lupron for about 2 weeks before beginnig stims and then while on stims I will have a reduced dosage of Lupron. Lupron will prevent you for O'ing on your own while the follies grow. The gonal f you will be on is a stimming drug. It will help your follies grow. Most people stim anywhere between 6 and 14 days. it will depend on how well you respond to the drugs and how much of a dosage you will have. If you don't stim long enough or you stim too long, it can effect egg quality. Hope this helps a little. When ever you get your schedule it might look a little more clearer to you. Are you going to be taking BCP's?

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So I went for my b/w and u/s today and got good results! I have 19 (plus several small ones on my left ovary) follies growing! I'm guessing that's a good number. I'm progressing well and are to keep the same meds dosage and get to go back Friday for another u/s and b/w. I'm feeling very happy today and hopeful!

I may have gotten a peak at how the meds may be starting to make me a bit moody. DH was being his normal funny/sarcastic self and I just couldn't handle it! I totally snapped at him. Although I'm also extra tired today having lost sleep last night due to not feeling well and having to get up extra early to get to my appointment (my DR office is an hour away). So...going to bed early is high on my list tonight!

Karen - I think that is a huge fear of mine: that I seem to be able to find meaning in what steps we're taking to have a baby...and I worry about not being able to if I end up not getting PG. I just honestly didn't think this process would bring out so many different emotions and thoughts in me. Definitely all new...and still figuring it all out. But I'm definitely loving reading all the posts on this mesage board! A HUGE help!

Have a nice night!
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