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[rph]

So they added prometrium on to my regimen (along with suppositories 3 times a day that I was already on)--this 2ww is pretty lame--started to feel a little negative but I think it's all the extra progesterone and estrogen I'm pumping in to my body. I wish I could know NOW (and have a glass of red wine if no embies attached). I'm working a lot so even if I'm not on the site I am thinking of you and sending out prayers for embryos and eggs and houses selling!

K-
Wish I knew when we'd be there next--paying for IVF is leaving us cashless. I've always wanted to do a safari too--DH is not at all interested--maybe we'll go together one day! Our vacations have been rather tame lately--wanting to visit Brazil and India, but can't get yellow fever vaccine or take the malaria meds right now.

Dee-
What a great report! Can't wait to hear how all the little 'yos are growing! How much longer do you have in school?

K-
The 11th is almost here!!!!!

Amanda-
I think Germany is sounding like it's going to be great for you--I'm so happy!

Talk to you all soon!

[Trusting]

rph-I know it is hard to stay positive, but remember you are PUPO pegnant until proven otherwise!!!! Praying you are doing well and that those embies are implanting/implanted!!

Dee-was hoping to hear how the embryo report was from today?????

Kamina-I hope you got a postive friday and you have just been busy celebrating??? I hope all is well.

Kay-you should be getting your first follicle growth u/s soon right???

AFM- Just waiting for May and then Sept!!!!!

Blessings to all
Amanda

[rph]

Hi all!

No news from me--was just checking in to see if anyone had any reports--

K-
follicles?

Kamina-
BFP??

Dee-
Embryos????

Amanda-
Packing up your house yet?

[Dee24]

hey yall
been sick with the mediacation they have had me on...ugh.. Tomorrow is the big day for me...and wht a great day it is... Valentines Day.. Love Day:-) I pray this is it..... Last I heard we still had 8 eggs!!!! Please say a prayer for me and my hubby..... we start at 1130!!!!

I will check back in tomorrow afterwords and let yall know how it goes... how is everyone??

[Waitingkay]

Hey everyone!

It has definitely been very hectic for me here. DH has yet to return since his business trip was prolonged until Wednesday at least. As long as he is here in time to give the sample!!! Amanda, you are a good example to me, when I start feeling sorry for myself and alone I just remember how you manage so much on your own! I have injured myself a few times with the injections. It's mostly because I'm careless, unlike the first cycle when I was totally obsessed with doing it all so perfect. Today I made a gift to myself in the form of a bumpy blue hemorrhage,that was bleeding like a volcano at the side of my stomach. Always the antagonist shot hurts the most when as the preloaded stim doesn't hurt to inject but gives somewhat zombie like effects the next morning:) Joy and pleasure.
Tomorrow I will have a blood test (LH, Prog., and E2) and u/s to see what's going on with the follies over there. Weirdly enough I felt pre-ovulation symptoms today but chose to overlook cause I'm only 8d after the beginning of this cycle. Tomorrow I'll prolly have a date set for the ER and IMSI! I am praying for DH's safe and fast return home now, and for this cycle to work. But so differently than cycle#1 - I don't hope so much. I don't dare. I know you ladies might criticize me for it, but I can't bring myself to consciously hope and imagine the good outcome. I somehow feel like I'm injection for no purpose. Do I sound totally crazy???!!!!!
Amanda - we have owned the place for only 3 years now, but decided to sell and move out of the center, get more room for kids, a bit more green etc. and last but not least! - Less noise. I looooove silence. Many potential buyers who came to see our place this week weren't serious but it seems like there's one couple who considers it seriously enough - please please hope and pray for us, I so much want to have more certainty in my life at least in SOME areas...

Dee dear - Hopes and prayers your way. Your success is ours. With all my heart I wish you to continue with your wonderfully positive attitude!

Kamina - any news girl? I wish you the very very best of luck! And good blessings your way!

rph - yup...then a trip here should have to wait I guess. There are many good sides to having the treatments done in Israel like your DH has told you, we just have to pay nearly nothing. Once it's a true diagnose, the state is taking responsibility for it, so at least we're not worried about this aspect. Just medically worried to know we have such a severe problem. And that we are sent to use a new technology augments our feelings and worries about : "Can this really be solved"?

I need words of wisdom, I do.
Kay

[Waitingkay]

Hi ladies!

My E2 for today is 1991! Is this an okay number? I'm too tired to google. Anyone?
I'll know about my follies' progress tonight (afternoon for crazy time-zoners!) Will prolly know also my ER date...

Dee!!!!!!! Anxious to hear your news!

K

[Dee24]

well im still very sleepy from my big day... but i was kindy upset to find out that out of 8 eggs only one embroyo made it! They said it was very strong with lots of cells n felt very confident so we are trying it...they gave us only 33 % of itmaking it.. i know thats low but I have all my faith in God tht he has this!!!!! Kindy bum wanted more but this is what God gave me and thats what I ask for was his will be done..... I hope all is well for everyone.. Kay= very proud of you for doing all of this by yourself while your DH is gone... you are doing great....and i admire you. I felt the same way of am i doing all of this for nothing?? i think the shots and stress gets us this way.... goin back to rest n talk soon... hope to feel like my old self tomorrow...lots of love

Dee

[Trusting]

Kay- Estradiol numbers sound great they say generally that for every 200-300 of estradiol points is one mature follicle. So if the theory holds true then you should have about 2000 divided by 250 = somewhere around 8 mature follicles????????? Or since they are not quite mature yet you could have 16 maturing follicles????? It sounds really good though, I will be praying for you and your growing follicles!

Dee- That is right girl it only takes one! God can make it happen no matter what the odds are!!! He is wonderful like that! It sounds very good though, you have a strong fighter already! Will be praying for you and sending sticky vibes your way and bunches of baby dust and prayers!!!

Accounting Exam tomorrow morning not alot of time......
Blessings to all,
Amanda

[Waitingkay]

Ladies!!!!!!!
I would wish so much you'd be awake to talk to me now, but am afraid you're all asleep when as here in Israel it's 8AM.

Dee, congrats on your fighter!!! My prayers and thoughts he/she has your spirit and good will!!!

Yesterday night I went to RE. Had to wait in the line for an hour to then have the u/s. I was so sleepy I was afraid to crash the car on the way there! Well, it's a weird situation. Amanda, you seem to know a lot about it - it seems like I have 3 follies on in my left ovary, sized 10 and 12 and four sized 10 and 12 in the right one. What does this mean? First cycle I think I had many more by this stage. Then, bottom line - RE said my LH number is already too low and may drop and he prescribed me Menogon. Does any of you girls know Menogon? I read it is produced of post menopausal women's urine ( )and just freaked out! Help! RE is afraid LH number may drop below 1 by Wednesday. It was only 1.7 yesterday! I thought I was loosing it. This is our second IVF and the first one seemed to go so perfect at first to end with 2 ET's and no viable pregnancy out of 23 eggs. This one took from me so much energy and emotions and doesn't even proceed right already? So basically today I have to inject as usual half an antagonist and 150 Gonal-f (my sweet stim), tomorrow morning I have to get blood work (RE was also afraid my E2 levels will make a huge surge by tomorrow like during my first cycle at the same stage) - and then RE will call and will tell me how to use the Menogon and what about the rest of the drugs. I'm so afraid! Any knowledge from you girls will be HIGHLY appreciated.

Finally, DH is supposed to come tomorrow. We had a non romantic Valentine's as he was so busy at work and I was busy with blood work and 2 visits to the clinic and injections and feeling sorry for myself. I hope you all had a lovely day though - Dee - It's a GOOOOOD day to have ET done

Bye for now, hope to hear from you all soon.

K

[rph]

My Valentine's Day consisted of my parents flying in to visit for 2 weeks (my poor DH), me working a 13 hour day, my husband breaking his finger, and my dad starting a fire in my oven. My beta is tomorrow. I took a home test today that was negative, and though I know I have to wait for the official word, I'm pretty down. I was hopeful for this cycle but knew my odds with eggs that had stopped dividing. At any rate, I have those same doubts I think we all get, about if this will EVER work, and what I'm doing to my body by putting all this crazy stuff into it......sigh. Do any of you know if they let you go right into another cycle or if you have to wait?

Dee-
My cousin had only 1 embryo make it and that is her 3 year old son! The one that made it is the strongest! Lots of prayers your way.

K
I think menogon is the same as menopur, the one I took. It's really the same side effects as the other stims--not different, but it burned going in for me. I am sure that this will help with the follicle growth and such. Don't worry about what it's made from--there are diabetes drugs made from lizard spit and menopause drugs made from pregnant horse's pee (I'm not kidding about this).

Amanda-
Hope the exam went well!

Who else had facebook? I'm not on much, but it's be good to "see" you!

[Waitingkay]

Hi everyone,

I'm not so worried about the side effects of the drug, I'm just worried that all of a sudden my hormones need adjustment - up until now my hormones have always been fine and I am surprised that I need to try a new drug and that the follies number is so low. I checked and found that low or high LH during IVF normally predicts a bad outcome, so of course I'm worried. I'll know if I have to take the Menogon this afternoon, after receiving the results of today's blood work. DH said on the phone something I later on checked and found out to be true - that starting the antagonist cycle a few days earlier than last cycle - thus injecting it 12 times before even beginning with the stims may have caused low LH (of course, since LH is the hormone connected with natural ovulation). I also feel upset that I insisted on having 150 dosage of Gonal-f and not 112 like RE initially wanted me to (after last cycle's OHSS). If I'd have take only 112 my follies' number would be even lower, and it bothers me to think RE wasn't more careful! We wanted to change RE after the last time, but our RE is one of the main ppl that are familiar with IMSI and we also thought it could actually be helpful since he knew us already and knew my body's reactions to the treatment without it being only numbers. Worried and tired of this all.
rph - any news? I HATE hpts. To me, they always turn negative.
Maybe I should change my user name to Frustratedkay?
K

[Trusting]

Hi ladies,

Sorry been crazy for me lately so many things to do with the big moving coming.

Kay--sorry that your hormones are not doing what they are supposed to do. It is so hard to be possitive with all this IVF stuff and then for something else like our hormones to cause another issue makes it even more stressful. But, remember God does His best work in the middle of the valley (or against all odds) just to show us that it is His power and grace that allows life to begin. What was the word from the Doctor, Menogon or not??? Any more news on selling the house? I don't even go near HPT they just mess with our minds when we certainly don't need it we are usually so stressed anyway that I just avoid them altogether (I plan to take one after I am confirmed pregnant by blood test (some day) just to see one say positive for me, kinda silly but I just want to see a positive pregnancy test for me!) Did you have another ultrasound yet? Do you know how I would get covered by German insurance once we are there do I have to work at non-military base job in order to get the german insurance or would I even be qualified since I wouldn't be a german citizen???

rph--Sorry your Valentines Day was so crazy!!!! I hope your DH is ok broken fingers are very aggrevating makes everything so much harder to do. I hope the oven survived and that the visit with family is going well! Are you celebrating I know your beta was today I hope you got wonderful news!!!!!!! I do think that they allow you to do a cycle right after another one but just my opinion and I certainly don't know the statistic or anything but my body is so out of wack with all these hormones and such that I would wait for at least one normal period before doing it again but like I said I have not researched anything about doing cycles back to back it could have really good statistics?????

Dee--hope you are feeling well and praying for your little embryo.

AFM--I will find out about my exam tomorrow morning think it went ok, I don't think I Aced it but I know I didn't fail it either so it will be ok. Awaiting more news about moving to germany and finding a house and all that fun stuff. I know we will have to live off post because all the housing on post is full so they will refer us off post which is great to me the housing off post is usually much better than the on post housing.

Blessing to all,
Trusting

[Dee24]

This is the longest two weeks of my life!!!!I have faith but sometimes my moods from all those medications so depresses me and allows me to think the worst sometimes.. I must stop this.... hope all is well....Any one have any good news?

[rph]

BFN

Trying to decide to go into next cycle or take a break....they are adding growth hormone and upping my meds (I was already doing 300 Follistim and 2 Menopur powders!!!!).

Did you all take BCP for your cycles or not?

Thinking of all of you. Will write more, but for now, going to bed.

[Trusting]

rph--Hugs-sorry to hear the news......
I did take BCP before two of my cycles once when it was a timed intercorse cycle and we were on Repronex for stiming and that cycle went pretty good as far as my levels of everything we obviously didn't get a BFP but all my levels were where they expected them to be. Then when we did this IVF cycle I did the BCP's and Lupron with the same stim (Repronex) and my levels did not play fair like they had when I wasn't on the Lupron it took 3 times the Repronex to get my levels where they were supposed to be!!!!! I kinda knew our chances were lowered because of having to take so much of the stim but was hoping this was going to be one of those times when God would grant His grace but anyway......hopefully next time.

Dee--my DH is going to finish his associates degree before he gets home from Afghanistan and that is a miracle in itself!!! He always said he wouldn't go to school but thankfully the Lord worked in his heart to show him that just his retirement from the Army would not be enough. My mom is also doing well in her rehabilitation program from her stroke so we are very grateful for that and even though a stroke is a very horrible thing to have to go through I don't think my mother would have ever given her life to Christ if it had not happened so there is something wonderful that came from her stroke!

Blessings to all,
Trusting