Just sending a bit of PMA to all you ladies on the 2ww. Put your feet up and let your DH/DPs treat you like queens for the remainder of your wait. Hope it goes really quickly for all of you.
Best wishes
Heather
July 2WW - chat
Hi all, just quick note from me - haven't been on for ages because I've been in such pain - I've had a really bad reaction to the progesterone (again - like first time) and I'm so weak with dioreeah (can't spell it) and sickness it's unreal - I feel absolutely dreadful - much worse than ever before. I therefore am preparing myself for the worst - I know I need to keep positive but I also want to be realistic about things. If my body is rejecting the progesterone so violently then it's unlikely to be able to support a pregnancy. My embies weren't too good this time - 2 grade 3s and the embryologist says there was a chance but she would only refer to them as average - below average and they only froze 2 other Grade 3s because I was so upset (stupid really because they told me they had very little chance of surviving the process). There were two first timers either side of me with a great batch of excellent embryos each - both singing and being very loud - I must admit to feeling a huge pang of jealousy - I just can't seem to produce good quality embies and they're getting worse with each treatment. However - huge lesson learnt - while I was wallowing in self pity, I overheard the embryologist talking to a lady who'd just come back from EC and she only had one egg collected. How dreadful did I feel!? I promise to love my little embies no matter what and I will feel proud of them however long they last. I refuse to be envious of anyone else anymore because I don't want anyone elses babies - I want to be blessed with mine and my husbands therefore there is nothing to be envious of. Of course the next day (Thurs 7th) brought a very different mood and all my little 'issues' faded into nothing in the light of the London events. It reminded me of how much I have to be grateful of and really brought me down to earth. However long it takes I'm going to get there in the end - whether it's our own child or an adopted child and I'm going to be grateful for every little milestone that we reach.
Feeling very humble and very grateful for everything that makes up my life,
Love, hugs and best wishes to all 2wwaiters.
Cherylxx
Feeling very humble and very grateful for everything that makes up my life,
Love, hugs and best wishes to all 2wwaiters.
Cherylxx
Third ICSI July 2005 BFP and praying it continues!! 6, 8, 12, 13(Nuchal) 20, 25 and 28 week scans successful! Emily Ann Cane born 8.4.06 - more beautiful than we could have imagined
Cheryl
Oh sweetie, you are allowed to feel annoyed when things dont go as well as you planned/hoped but things sound good for you - we always say it only takes one little strong embie to come through no matter the grade. You made mesmile when you said you want to have your babies, not someone elses embies. To keep me going, when I see a baby, I dont feel jealousy because I dont want THAT baby!! I want my own!!! It's sort of a protection thing .......of course all babies are beautiful etc. etc.
On wed/thurs I was fussing about DH not being here for test date, and then the bombings put all that into perspective.
Anyway, the thing we have to remember is we are not in control of our feelings due to the meds etc. Keep up the PMA and I hope you are feeling better. Do you take progest. shots? Your illness sound s pretty yucky but try not to worry - little embies are strong and we get obsessd with making everything right for them, but most people dont even know they are pregnant yet and would be drinking coffee/alcohol/partying late/eating junk....think of the pregnant women who do that for 9 months!
Really take care
Lumi xxxx
Oh sweetie, you are allowed to feel annoyed when things dont go as well as you planned/hoped but things sound good for you - we always say it only takes one little strong embie to come through no matter the grade. You made mesmile when you said you want to have your babies, not someone elses embies. To keep me going, when I see a baby, I dont feel jealousy because I dont want THAT baby!! I want my own!!! It's sort of a protection thing .......of course all babies are beautiful etc. etc.
On wed/thurs I was fussing about DH not being here for test date, and then the bombings put all that into perspective.
Anyway, the thing we have to remember is we are not in control of our feelings due to the meds etc. Keep up the PMA and I hope you are feeling better. Do you take progest. shots? Your illness sound s pretty yucky but try not to worry - little embies are strong and we get obsessd with making everything right for them, but most people dont even know they are pregnant yet and would be drinking coffee/alcohol/partying late/eating junk....think of the pregnant women who do that for 9 months!
Really take care
Lumi xxxx
me 31 DH 33
3rd FET...BFP...TWIN GIRLS!!!
[img]http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/1;21;34/st/20070119/dt/5/k/e204/preg.png[/img]
3rd FET...BFP...TWIN GIRLS!!!
[img]http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/1;21;34/st/20070119/dt/5/k/e204/preg.png[/img]
Kim, thanks so much for the reassurance. AF pains are so recognisable for me, completely different from, say indigestion, that I can tell instantly that it's coming from my womb. Because I normally only get any kind of pain coming from there when it's AF, that's what I associate it with. But it also makes sense that anything going on down there could cause that pain. Now I think about, smear tests have occasionally caused a twinge like that. And don't get me started on my HSG!! So I just have to keep telling myself that these pains are just my womb telling me that something's going on in there.
Cheryl, I'm sorry you've been having such a rough time What does your clinic say about your sickness? Could they change your medication? Remember that when you feel as rough as you do now, it's hard to stay positive. I was sick after EC and went bonkers imagining the worst - in my case OHSS. There's nothing to suggest that because you're sick you can't get a positive. A friend of mine was sick for the entire 9 months of her pregnancy and has a lovely little girl, who I'm going to go and see this afternoon. Keep positive. How much longer have you got to go? I think you test about a week after me, so was ET last week?
Heather, thanks for the good wishes. I see from your sig that you were planning on doing ICSI in June/July but haven't spotted any updates on your treatment. Have you delayed it? Hope things are going well for you.
Lumi, hope you have a lovely last day with DH before his work trip.
Caroline
Cheryl, I'm sorry you've been having such a rough time What does your clinic say about your sickness? Could they change your medication? Remember that when you feel as rough as you do now, it's hard to stay positive. I was sick after EC and went bonkers imagining the worst - in my case OHSS. There's nothing to suggest that because you're sick you can't get a positive. A friend of mine was sick for the entire 9 months of her pregnancy and has a lovely little girl, who I'm going to go and see this afternoon. Keep positive. How much longer have you got to go? I think you test about a week after me, so was ET last week?
Heather, thanks for the good wishes. I see from your sig that you were planning on doing ICSI in June/July but haven't spotted any updates on your treatment. Have you delayed it? Hope things are going well for you.
Lumi, hope you have a lovely last day with DH before his work trip.
Caroline
me - 44, DH - 48
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.
Thanks Lumi and Caroline for moral support - I've stopped both ends projecting but I think that's just cos I haven't been able to eat anything. Clinic wasn't very helpful - just said take some paracetamol and go to bed. I think I'm goiing to see my doc tomorrow if I still feel this bad - I might have picked up a completely unrelated infection or virus. If I'm not on for a few days I'm thinking of you all but I'm struggling to stay out of bed at moment,
Cherylxx
Cherylxx
Third ICSI July 2005 BFP and praying it continues!! 6, 8, 12, 13(Nuchal) 20, 25 and 28 week scans successful! Emily Ann Cane born 8.4.06 - more beautiful than we could have imagined
Cheryl, I think it's a good idea to see your GP as your sickness could be completely unrelated to IVF. Get plenty of rest, make sure you get some fluid intake and relax and try not worry as much as is possible (I know, I know, easier said than done).
Be thinking of you
Caroline
Be thinking of you
Caroline
me - 44, DH - 48
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.
2WW - NEW TO THIS SITE - LOOK FORWARD TO CHATTING WITH YOU
Hi
This is my first attempt of IVF.
I had egg collection last Monday, they collected 21 eggs, 18 of which fertilised. I had embryo transfer last Wednesday and 2 embryos were put back and 12 are being frozen.
I am analysing every little twinge and keep thinking that it is PMT. Is it normal to feel very negative after IVF convincing yourself that it hasn't worked. I keep telling myself that it is too early to get symptoms of PMT or pregnancy at this early stage but I can't get it out of my head. I got a spot come up on my chin yesterday, I know it sounds daft but I felt really down thinking oh my god is this because of Aunt Flo. My stomach is really bloated but it has been like that for about 3 weeks now and also I have to drink 3 litres of water a day due to high amount of eggs collected and risk of OHSS. I have had sore boobs since egg collection but have been told that is due to the progesterone suppositries.
My hospital told me to test 2 weeks after embryo transfer which will be Wednesday 19th July - a friend of mine is at a different hospital and was told she could test 2 weeks after egg collection!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else felt like this and still got a BFP.
Lumi thanks for helping me find this thread.
Karron
This is my first attempt of IVF.
I had egg collection last Monday, they collected 21 eggs, 18 of which fertilised. I had embryo transfer last Wednesday and 2 embryos were put back and 12 are being frozen.
I am analysing every little twinge and keep thinking that it is PMT. Is it normal to feel very negative after IVF convincing yourself that it hasn't worked. I keep telling myself that it is too early to get symptoms of PMT or pregnancy at this early stage but I can't get it out of my head. I got a spot come up on my chin yesterday, I know it sounds daft but I felt really down thinking oh my god is this because of Aunt Flo. My stomach is really bloated but it has been like that for about 3 weeks now and also I have to drink 3 litres of water a day due to high amount of eggs collected and risk of OHSS. I have had sore boobs since egg collection but have been told that is due to the progesterone suppositries.
My hospital told me to test 2 weeks after embryo transfer which will be Wednesday 19th July - a friend of mine is at a different hospital and was told she could test 2 weeks after egg collection!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else felt like this and still got a BFP.
Lumi thanks for helping me find this thread.
Karron
Hi Karron
welcome to the boards. I test on Thursday, which is 2 weeks after ET, whereas Lumi and Sammy, who had ET on the same day as me, test tomorrow - it's just different clinic's policies. Do you have to use a home pregnancy test (HPT), by any chance? Just wondered from the way you said "they told me to test" rather than you going in for a blood test. That may account for the difference between you and your friend. I'm using a HPT and I think they may not be as sensitive as a blood test, hence the slightly longer wait. You don't have to say if you don't want to, but are you at Bristol? HPTs seem to be their policy but I don't know of other clinics that use them.
It's completely normal to analyse every twinge and every symptom. I think the uncertainty is so unbearable that we look for any way of regaining some control, even if that means convincing ourselves it hasn't worked. I was doing fine until I got AF type pains on Saturday, which I've had on and off since. Not very strong, but definitely "this is your womb calling" type pain. I have heard from various people that this is completely normal and could signify that anything at all is going on down there, but I have to keep conciously telling myself that, because in the past that pain has always meant AF.
Ironically, I felt better when I had absolutely no symptoms, until I read a post from someone who sounds like she's almost certainly got a +ve (did an early HPT), who is feeling tired and sick. So now I'm worried that I have my normal amount of energy and don't feel sick!! It's torture the mental games we play on ourselves.
In terms of your symptoms, the bloating is 100% normal, especially after having so many eggs collected. Your ovaries must be really swollen, as all the empty follicles fill up with fluid. So I wouldn't worry about that one at all. The sore boobs and the spot are almost certainly due to the drugs. You've got over a week to go, so try not to torture yourself too much (I really do know how much easier it is to say this than to do it!). One thing that I've found helps calm me down is to get really relaxed, put my hands over my tummy (or my husband's hands) and visualise the embryos nestling in, safe and sound.
Anyway, we're always here when you're driving yourself nuts.
Lumi, Sammy, Cheryl - hope you're all doing fine.
love Caroline
welcome to the boards. I test on Thursday, which is 2 weeks after ET, whereas Lumi and Sammy, who had ET on the same day as me, test tomorrow - it's just different clinic's policies. Do you have to use a home pregnancy test (HPT), by any chance? Just wondered from the way you said "they told me to test" rather than you going in for a blood test. That may account for the difference between you and your friend. I'm using a HPT and I think they may not be as sensitive as a blood test, hence the slightly longer wait. You don't have to say if you don't want to, but are you at Bristol? HPTs seem to be their policy but I don't know of other clinics that use them.
It's completely normal to analyse every twinge and every symptom. I think the uncertainty is so unbearable that we look for any way of regaining some control, even if that means convincing ourselves it hasn't worked. I was doing fine until I got AF type pains on Saturday, which I've had on and off since. Not very strong, but definitely "this is your womb calling" type pain. I have heard from various people that this is completely normal and could signify that anything at all is going on down there, but I have to keep conciously telling myself that, because in the past that pain has always meant AF.
Ironically, I felt better when I had absolutely no symptoms, until I read a post from someone who sounds like she's almost certainly got a +ve (did an early HPT), who is feeling tired and sick. So now I'm worried that I have my normal amount of energy and don't feel sick!! It's torture the mental games we play on ourselves.
In terms of your symptoms, the bloating is 100% normal, especially after having so many eggs collected. Your ovaries must be really swollen, as all the empty follicles fill up with fluid. So I wouldn't worry about that one at all. The sore boobs and the spot are almost certainly due to the drugs. You've got over a week to go, so try not to torture yourself too much (I really do know how much easier it is to say this than to do it!). One thing that I've found helps calm me down is to get really relaxed, put my hands over my tummy (or my husband's hands) and visualise the embryos nestling in, safe and sound.
Anyway, we're always here when you're driving yourself nuts.
Lumi, Sammy, Cheryl - hope you're all doing fine.
love Caroline
me - 44, DH - 48
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.
2002 ectopic (natural conception)
2004 1st IVF cancelled following brain seizure
2005 June/July 2nd IVF - negative
2005 Nov FET - postponed cos my Mum died
2006 - Feb FET planned, but neither frostie survived the thaw.