Aussies and Kiwis!

[Xrayem]

HI guys,

Annette - thanks for the info but my cycle is like clockwork. 28 days every month. I can even tell you which ovary I ovulate from on day 14 - as I get alternating pain and again its like clockwork! All my hormone levels are bang on the money and DH has excellent sperm, so it really is frustrating. In total, it has been 5 years since we have used any form of contraception.

I guess thats why I really want to go to IVF. The IUI's aren't giving us any more info about whats wrong. I know we may never know...

Clomid is evil! I feel awful....like I have a hangover. All headachy and queasy. The headaches are possibly tention headaches as I got myself all worked up when I rang the clinic this morning to tell them AF had come. I asked for an appointment to discuss with the doc about doing IVF next cycle and the only appointment she had was after next AF is due....which will be too late. I was so frustrated! She has promised to sort something out for me...but I'm not holding my breath.

Bel - thats good news about Annie not needing surgery..and congrats on finishing work...it must be so lovley to have more time with Annie.

Annette - your daughter sounds so cute! And smart! You are very lucky.

Suzanne - I hope your embies are snug and happy in their new home and that you are feeling well.

I am booked for bloods and a follie scan on monday morning so will have more news then. I know it seems like I have given up on this IUI already by trying to line up an IVF cycle, but I trying to save some time. I am over waiting!

Well, have dinner to cook,
Em

[ozstock]

Em,
I can really feel for you- 4-5 years of trying with no legitimate reason why it's not working. You guys must be so frustrated and impatient for something to happen. With unexplained infertility you're almost hoping it's endo or something so you know what it is and how it can be treated.

Sorry to hear you've been having bad side-effects from the Clomid. I was a bit confused about how your IUI is working. When I've had Clomid in the past it's been a daily tablet from days 5-9 (and you mentioned that AF just arrived). I never had Clomid with my IUI but had mild daily injections, the scans, trigger shot and transfer. I can also understand your desire to go straight to IVF- we decided after 2 failed IUIs to go to IVF, even though the clinic initially talked about 3 IUIs.

Don't give up on this IUI yet- this may be the month that everything turns around and the magic finally happens! Good luck with the scan and bloods on Monday. It would be great it you could make it happen without having to go through the whole IVF thing- which is way more taxing on the body.

Bel, you must be relieved about the results from Annie's test - that's great news. Only a month to go now- in the home stretch!

Suzanne, how are you feeling? Hopefully no signs of OHSS and the embies are hunkering down for the winter, spring and summer...

Have a great week guys.
Annette

P.S. Can't believe we have to wait until Feb 2007 for next episode of Desperate Housewives- can see why Bit Torrent is so popular!

[suzannes]

Hi All,

No sign of the OHSS it settled quite quickly, so it must have been very mild. I am a little worried though that because it didn't flare up again after ET that we are heading for a BFN.

I am still feeling quite fine, no real spotting or anything like that. Still quite tired, and tender breasts remain, so maybe a BPF - who knows!

Feeling a bit flat and emotional today. but tomorrow is another day, so will hopefully bounce back then.

I'm really struggling between being optimistic and keeping PMA, but not getting my hopes up too high if you know what I mean. DH and I want to be parents so badly, we will just be devastated if we get a BFN, but there is every chance that we will - what's a girl to do?

Sorry to hear you're having a tough time with the Clomid Em, and I understand about needing to have a plan B. I find myself thinking about how soon we might be able to do a FET if this cycle doesn't work, and so on.

Will be back with a better attitude tomorrow I hope.

Be good everyone

[Xrayem]

Hi Annette,

With the IUI cycles, I have to take Clomid from day 3 to 7. I have heard other places do 2-6, etc... the only constant being that it is only taken for 5 days. I assume the results don't vary too much. This is our 3rd and final IUI. I hope it is our lucky one....

Suzanne - Hang in there...not long to go now. When is your test date?

Em

[BelB]

Hi guys,

Em, I reckon that "third time lucky" has a good ring to it..keep up the positive vibes!!

Suzanne, god the 2ww draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags doesn't it???..I reckon you're coping fantastically. Take each day as it comes and, like Em, keep up the BFP type vibes!!

Annette, we saw the ENT today and he confirmed that with a good hearing test and clear ears that he saw today we don't need to take things any further which is wonderful, so wasn't looking forward to the thought of surgery / grommets etc. Thanks for asking after my girl!!

All good here, my mum is up from Sydney and Annie is BESIDE herself with joy at having "nanny" around..god bless her cotton socks.

Take care all
B

[suzannes]

Hi all

Suzanne, god the 2ww draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags doesn't it???..I reckon you're coping fantastically. Take each day as it comes and, like Em, keep up the BFP type vibes!!

Sure does Bel - not coping so well today, but just plodding along.

Annette, we saw the ENT today and he confirmed that with a good hearing test and clear ears that he saw today we don't need to take things any further which is wonderful, so wasn't looking forward to the thought of surgery / grommets etc.

That's excellent news Bel - really pleased for you, and the adorable Annie!

When is your test date?

Not till next Tuesday, the 8th Em. Soon enough I suppose.

I am spotting today, and fear AF is on the way.

Have a good day everyone.

[ozstock]

Suzanne, spotting could be implantation bleeding, you never know. It's only when it becomes heavy that probably means AF is rearing her ugly head. Let's hope it's the former. Must feel like an eternity - keep your head up and keep yourself occupied- go for a walk, watch a movie, read a book, grab a coffee with a friend.

Bel- must be so nice to have your Mum around. Enjoy the time.

Em- let us know how the tests go today.

Cheers
Annette

P.S. Anyone heard any news from Tiger, Bella? MIA...

[suzannes]

P.S. Anyone heard any news from Tiger, Bella? MIA...

I was thinking the same Annette, hopefully they are just busy having fun!

[Tiger]

G'day G'day!!

I am herererereerererererererre. Sorry I have been away MIA. Work has been hectic lately, running around like a blue bottomed fly moi.... but things are settling down a bit so hopefully less MIA from now on .

Bel, less than 1 month to go buddy!! Can't wait to see Ellie. I hope you are making most of this quite time before Elle's arrival and no going to work . Glad to hear that little Annie is having a fabulous time with her nan. Is your mum gonna stay with you until Elle's birth?

Suzanne, how are you feeling? Day 9 today? Day 9 since conception . I reckon by now your embies have find a nice cushy place to settle for next 40 weeks in your tummy, thus your spotting. I am sending you tons of that baby-stick stuff on your way just to help them really stick!!PMA PMA PMA.

Em, how did the test go? I too hope this is the third-time-lucky cycle for you and your DH.

Annett, hiya. Your daughter must be very bright. When are you going to tell her??? I never got into Desparate Housewives btw, is it that good? is it as nasty as say Nip-tuck??? Brits don't import much US shows here as we do in OZ. They do make enough of their own so I guess they don't need to?

I am doing ok, work is tad busy and it is doing my head in a little. Other than that, kind of ok. Something did get me down fair bit recently though, I received an email from a friend two days ago, she had her twins in mid-July. The way she worded the news, and how ecstatic she is about life (with her new twin girls and her daughter) ......MADE ME SICK (I felt nauseous. I am not kidding). And the fact that I felt that way - made me more sick . Yea I know, life was never meant to be easy... but...

Take care all. Cheers, Tiger

[ozstock]

Hi Tiger,
Nice to have you back- sounds like work has been keeping you out of trouble.

Can completely understand your feelings about your friend's announcement. On the one hand you want to be really happy for her but the overwhelming feeling is "It's not fair! Why can't that be me!". I felt like that when a friend of mine told me she was pregnant a few months back (after she went through a miscarriage). My initial reaction was "You've got to be kidding! Everyone and their dog manages to get pregnant these days except me! Oops, hold on, I need to be happy for her- that's supposed to be my overriding emotion here! She completely deserves to be pregnant. What am I thinking?" You don't want to become bitter and resentful but sometimes it's perfectly natural. Good thing you heard the news via email rather than having to react in front of them. That way you have some time to reconsider what's going on in your head. You know that your time and day will come when you will be able to share good news with all your family and friends. Hang in there!
Annette

[BelB]

Hi guys,

Tiger, I know exactly where you're at. The fertility journey (I refuse to use the word "infertility" its just so bloody negative) is remarkably hard going and I think it's completely natural that this would impact on our ability to respond and relate to the "good" news of others. And yeah, it is good news that she had her twins and that's all fabulous, but she will never have any idea of what it's like to not take having babies for granted if you know what I mean. Don't beat yourself up, we of all people understand where you're coming from and quite frankly think you're goddam fabulous..so don't forget that!

Gotta run guys, want to spend some time with my mum (she goes on Monday and then will be back for Ellie's birth around the end of August).

Take care all
B

[Tiger]

Hi Annette, Hi Bel,

Thanks guys for your kind messages. you made me feel so much better. I know I am not alone - thank you. I didn't mention this last year but this is the same friend who said to me right in my face (while I was on my tmt) "Sounds like a hell of a roller coaster ride this IVF - good luck. But what would you do if you do get pregnant and then doctors tell you that there is a fault with the baby.... Now that would make you think, wouldn't it???" AGHHHHHH! Lights are on but there's nobody home !!

Cheers, Tiger

[ozstock]

The way I see it- sometimes friends are like clothes...

Every few years or so, you need to go through your wardrobe- some clothes don't make you feel good or aren't as flattering anymore, others you've outgrown or are a bit too rough around the edges to keep... so you make a trip to St. Vinnies. Although sometimes, there's the outdated sweaters that were handknitted by your grandmother and although you will never wear it again in a lifetime, you just can't part with it for sentimental reasons.

[suzannes]

Hi All,

Em - how's the Clomid going? Hope you are feeling OK. I'm thinking of you.

Tiger - I hear you sister! Everyone around me is pregnant at the moment, my 'thoughtless' friend has her perfect baby boy at home, sleeping through the night at 2 weeks old, and another friend whinging about putting on weight - she's all the way up to a size 10 since she got pregnant - imagine the horror eh! All the while I'm crying myself to sleep at night because I'm spotting and my poor precious Dh feels helpless.

As well intentioned as the people around us might be, no-one can ever really understand what we are all going through, unless they have been through it and I think your response is absolutely completely understandable. And I agree with Bel - we think you're pretty damn cool girl!

The longest 2 weeks of my life continues, hope everyone else is well.

[Xrayem]

Suzanne - Oh sweetie! Hang in there! I am praying that the spotting you are getting is fom implantation and that you will get your BFP on tuesday.

Tiger - Some people have not a clue!!???! I got told by a patient (who didn't know my situation luckily) that all these silly young girls are running around having sex with every man and his dog and then wonder why when they get older they can't have kids......I couldn't beleive my ears! Is that the belief of the fertile population? I didn't realise PCOS and endo were sexually transmitted diseases.....

Bel - only a month to go? You must be so excited! I'm incredibly jealous but in a good way, because I know how hard fought this pregnancy was!

Annette - I love that about old clothes....its soo true.

Well, the Clomid-nightmare is over and I am just waiying for my scan tomorrow to see how many follies I have. I had a sneaky-peek yesterday and could only see one that looked like it had potential (11mm on day I'm disappointed as last time I had 4. Perhaps by tomorrow I might have a grwoth spurt.

Trying to keep up the PMA, but its hard.

Em