The Over 40 Crowd

[cmg]

Hi all

haven't been around for a while and have just caught up - Kat I'm so pleased that things went well in Barcelona. Good luck for the next few days.

My news is not good. My period is due any day now, so I should be starting the ovulation predictor kits in less than 2 weeks and FET should be in maybe 3 weeks. But unfortunately my mother is really seriously ill - bad enough for my sister to fly over from the other side of the world in case this is the end. I can't do my "last ever, this is the final chance at motherhood FET" in the midst of all that. It's just too much to deal with. So looks like I'll have to put it off for a while, depending on how things go. Maybe January?

I may not be around for a while as I focus on my Mum, but good luck to those of you in treatment and look forward to coming back soon.

I've updated the names:

Kat - Fresh/donor cycle end Oct, 2ww, test Tues 8th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev in November.
Caroline - November FET postponed because my Mum is seriously ill
Amfy - started downregging Thurs 5th Oct
Anna - Down reg inj 3rd Nov, 1st scan 16th Nov
JudeM -
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan
Heather - FET November sometime


love Caroline

[LittleP]

Caroline

I hope that everything turns out alright and your mother makes a full recovery.

Keeping everything crossed for you.

Little P

[amfy]

CMG - I hope that your mum is OK. Are you sure that you have to pull out of your treatment? I'm not sure what stage you are at, but what things do you have to do that would take you away from your mum for any significant length of time? I'm not meaning to nag or anything, just trying to put an alternative perspective on this because I know that if my mum fell ill right now, her biggest worry would be that she was messing up my chances. I know she wouldn't want me to stop.

If this was the November buddies thread which is full of much younger women, I might not be saying this, but this is the over 40s thread.

I really hope that this post doesn't sound unsympathetic, it just might be that we on this board are the only one's around you who can be objective enough to even allow you to think of putting yourself first. The reason you can think it is because I bet your mum would always want to put you first too.

[amfy]

AMck - I have told my boss and he was great about it. I am currently also considering telling my deputy, and possibly my whole team. My reason is that my mood is completely erratic and I'm starting to think they deserve some kind of explanation.

[Kat]

Hi all

Caroline, so sorry to hear about your mother, I can't imagine what you are going through but I understand that you wouldn't want to be trying to concentrate on your fet at the moment. Take care of yourself and your family.

Anna, I am lucky in that I work for a company run by two women and they are very sympathetic and have never had a problem with me taking time off. I know some people aren't as lucky. I have told a couple of other people too, closer work friends but not on my own team.

Jackie, my hairdryer has come out in sympathy with your tumble dryer and gone to that big Comet in the sky so I have a ball of frizz on my head especially in this rain.

Me - up & down, you know how it is on the lovely 2ww, every little feeling could be good or could be bad and doesn't really mean anything. I really don't feel I know one way or the other this time. Maybe that's a good sign, who knows. I am so bloated I can't do my jeans up but that is obviously the medication (1 patch every 4th day + 3 pessaries daily). Trying to take one day at a time. My acupuncturist would be well impressed at my stress management.

My GP refuses to do the blood preg test next week, said a hpt will give just as clear a result. When I explained why & that I have to send the results to Spain he said Spain would probably have a different way of measuring things so wouldn't make any sense to them. Does he think I am stupid or something?! Thinking of changing GP...
So I have to try and get my old clinic to sort out the blood test, hopefully they will be able to do it.

Anyway, enough from me, time to do some work
Take care everyone and speak soon
Lots of love
Kat xx

[AMck]

Hi Kat, good to see you are still Ok. Your GP sounds like a very frustrating person to be dealing with.

I saw Katie at Roehampton today. She was very helpful. She gave me a scan before my prostap jab today. I had ovulated which is good news. BUT I still have a cyst so it will have to be drained before I start stimming. The saga continues. I get so fed up. Every time I have an appointment it never goes according to plan. Am beginning to lose heart if truth be told.
As me and DP have unexplained infertility the only info we really need is how good my eggs are. We can't seem to get to this stage.

Am waiting for AF now, perhaps I'm feeling low because she is on her way (Please!)

Good news is that my FSH level is 7. I am thrilled about that.

Keep going with the stress management!

Bye for now

Anna

[AMck]

Hi all, just thought I'd post the list again. It took me a while to find it!

Kat - Fresh/donor cycle end Oct, 2ww, test Tues 8th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev in November.
Caroline - on a 6 week health trip before November FET
Amfy - started downregging Thurs 5th Oct
Anna - Down reg inj 3rd Nov, waiting for AF and cyst drain
JudeM -
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan
Heather - FET November sometime

Hope all is going according to plan for everyone. Lots of PMA to all
Bye for now

Anna

[randa2006]

Hi all,

Actually, I think Caroline had updated her info recently and it was left off of the list above.
I'll give a try with the latest changes (I hope):

Kat - Fresh/donor cycle end Oct, 2ww, test Tues 8th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev in November.
Caroline - November FET postponed because my Mum is seriously ill
Amfy - started downregging Thurs 5th Oct
Anna - Down reg inj 3rd Nov, waiting for AF and cyst drain
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Heather - FET November sometime
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan

Caroline - I agree with Amfy completely. Her words were my first thoughts as well when reading your post about your Mother. Months are precious at our ages, Dear. Also, please know my heart goes out to you in this time of concern. I have lost a parent and I know how scared you must be. I pray she has a full recovery.

Well, have no idea if our "natural bidding" (sounds so British) was fruitful this month. Not getting my hopes up too much. You may remember I said that dh was skeptical at trying at this time because of health insurance. I gave it little attention and have proceeded as though he never said it. Several times during my calendar days of ovulation we had sex. I think he forgot, is relying on me to say that I'm ovulating (as I have always done in the past, but didn't this time), or maybe he has decided what the hell! I certainly have! We only have two ovulations between our last round of EC and the next full IVF cycle in Jan and I plan to make the most of them!!! To hell with the insurance! I really don't care at this point! I'm forty-freakin-four for God's sake! We gotta get movin'.

Thanks for bearing with me. Had to vent a little. Don't feel in the least bit preggars, but then I've read that women our age have a lower level of hcg during the early time and therefore less symptoms. ??? May or may not be right.

Having fun in Arizona. Up to 90 yesterday, and I LOVE it!
I'll try to check in again before heading home to Seattle on Sunday.

Hugs all around - Randa

[Kat]

Hi all,
Still fretting over every symptom or non-symptom. Still, not long till Tues. Have arranged blood test with old clinic who said oh yes we'll post you the form, just take it the hosp on the day and they'll do it no problem (Anna - Katie is a marvel!) So that's sorted. Hurrah.
Apart from that, trying to banish negative thoughts when they appear (frequently) and not get stressed.
Take care all, speak soon
Lots of love
Kat xx

PS the hairdryer resurrected itself, so I no longer look like Crystal Tipps

[randa2006]

Kat,
Keeping fingers crossed for you, Sweetie! YES! Your 2ww is almost over!!! How are you feeling physically, I mean other than the puffy tummy that your jeans can't wrap around? Boobs tender at all?
Come on Tuesday!!!!

[AMck]

Caroline, so sorry to read about your mum. It's really hard at times like this. Take care of yourself.

Anna

[JackieT]

hi all
caroline. so sorry to know your mam is sick, when we were going through our 2 goes at i.v.f my dad was dying, they had giving him 6 weeks and he lived for 4years and 6 months, we got a bfn on 1st go, but had madi on our 2nd go, my dad died one month to the day after madi was born and still in neo-natal as she was born at 27 weeks.
he was so happy for john and i, but never got to see her as he was too ill near the end, but he knew she was here and o.k.

i know you will get so many different stories from diff people, and you will do what you think is right for you in the end, i just knew that it was right for us to keep going, i wish you luck in your decision.
i wish you strenght and peace ,
we went to madis clinic yesterday and are to come back in 2 weeks to set a date for her next op. my dreaded b.p. is on the rise again and the part for my tumble dryer wont be here for week.
does anyone know how long before the symptoms appear from sniffing synarel?
kat- glad to see your hair dryer is behaving, i couldnt live with frizzy hair, wet clothes -maybe but not the bad hair days.....
hope everyone elce are o.k.
speak soon
love jackie xxx

[Kat]

Hi
Glad it's Friday! Not sure if I am glad the 2ww is nearly over or not - if that makes any sense - at least I can pretend I'm pg for the moment.

Symptoms - some af type cramps in the afternoons for a couple of days now, I know they could mean it has gone either way. Pain the last couple of days in what may be my right ovary or not, never quite sure where they are, could be my intestine, don't think that's a good sign (or could be completely unrelated- my acupuncturist said it was in the wrong place for my ovary and was most likely just stress on my intestine or something like that but that was Monday and now it's moved & just feels like it does when af is on her way)
Keep thinking maybe my boobs feel different but it's probably wishful thinking and they are definitely not sore, just I am more conscious of them.
I am trying not to stress and trying to think positive. Felt a bit queasy after dinner last night but could have been that I ate too much. Have had some good and bad days this week, I remember from previous attempts I felt really positive in the first week and then it gets nearer the time and I am convinced it hasn't worked. Damage limitation maybe, preparing myself for the worst. Am I just being stupid trying to convince myself it might still be OK even though I feel like af is coming? I know the symptoms are the same but it really feels like she's on her way properly.
I think I will have to do a hpt on Monday night as I don't think I can wait until Weds to get the blood test results without knowing, and I definitely don't want to take that call at work without knowing - surely Mon night will be OK if the blood test is scheduled for Tues am, will it make that much of a difference I ask myself? Is that really bad?
I'll keep you posted - sorry for going on a bit, hope everyone else is OK
lots of love
Kat xx

[DebraP]

Hello there lovelies...

Kat, the twinges suck don't they? best of luck for your test. I'll be watching on the big day

Randa, what's 'natural bidding'? BD stands for 'baby dance' (aka.sex). lol...enjoy that Az sun.

Hi Heather and Nicola...lovely to see you here.

Welcome Anna, we didn't get to meet but you're in great company.

You know, I've only been gone what, 2 weeks(?) after being here for 2 solid years and the board is FULL of new faces, seems a bit sad really. I'm still in some sort of dead zone. Neither DF nor I have had any real emotional reaction to the final -ve. I've had a sad distraction though, my best friend has a terrible pgy dilemma. I know how callous this sounds but it's helped me in a way. I can appreciate that one good thing of tmt being over for us is that we will never have to face what she's dealing with now.

I've given myself the rest of this year to phaff about, working p/time etc. but by Jan 01, hope to be organised and ready to go (forward).

I promise not to burst in again too often, this is your thread now. Best of luck and you know you're all in my thoughts.

hugs
Debra.

[Smita]

Debra,
DO look in often..we miss you when you're not on the boards.
Can fully understand about wanting to get away from the boards though.
Wishing you DF and Maya lots and lots of love, luck and laughter always!

smita

Kat,
Rooting for a BFP for you.