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Discussion group for all topics related to infertility including preparation for pregnancy, causes, investigation and treatment of infertility.
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Tracey S
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Post by Tracey S »

Dee Dee

Phew what a relief it's you! Do you remember those mad threads - you, me, Nikola and Helen all in HR and recruitment. After Oliver died I left Hays and now have set up on my own - well Jan and have done sod all since - Nikola has stopped her business for the moment with twins and Helen S does not come on here anymore as too sad for her - she finds it hard - has had 5 tmts now and no go! But she still continues with her dream!
Good luck
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Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Hi DeeDee

Just wanted to welcome you to the board and the JCS's :D Wishing you lots of luck and hope you get a BFP soon.

Hope everyone else is doing just fine. My drugs are being delivered tomorrow morning - yippppeeeeee :P

I am now deliberating whether to tell my Mum and Dad that I am starting tmt :? I want to surprise them if it's a positive and if it is negative I wont have to worry about them getting upset too. Oh what's a girl to do???

BB is on soon so must dash :shock:

Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Post by AMITHIS »

Dagny,

I don't think I've seen anyone so excited about taking drugs....at least not this kind!!

I am dreading the day my drugs show up. Don't get me wrong. I want the +tive outcome. I just really wish there was a different way to get it (don't we all I suppose?!).

As far as telling your parents, that is always a tough one. I have to say I wish I didn't tell mine and I don't plan to when I do the FET. They all know I'll be doing it eventually but have no idea when and I've led them to believe it will be many more months from now. My mother in law was completely intolerable so I have to make sure DH doesn't tell her anything about when we're doing it. In your case, I guess it depends on whether or not you feel you might end up needing your parents for support as you go through the process. Is your mother someone you generally turn to when you are having problems? Do your parents live near you? Will they be offended at the end that you didn't tell them? I guess that if it works they will probably be so happy, they won't even think about it.

Anyway, hope everyone else is doing ok today!

Staci
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Hi Staci

I know, I do seem rather excited about the drugs don't I? Maybe I am a sadist that loves jabbing needles in my legs 3 times a day and making them bleed :evil: Perhaps I am just weird.

My parents live 200 miles away from me so it is possible to do it without their knowledge. I speak to my Mum most days but I can be economical with the truth. I just want to surprise them even maybe wait till after the scan if it is positive :? She will be cross, especially if things go a bit pear shaped but I really want to do it quietly.

What's the weather like in the States today?

Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Post by DebraP »

Quick slap needed. I'm wallowing and making myself very unhappy. I'm usually pretty good at keeping myself from dipping too low.

I think I might be on the board too much and letting it all get to me. I'm asking Q and not liking the answers. I now feel I've not been preparing properly. Not eating well enough, certainly not enough protein. Not been treating DF well enough if you know what I'm referring to? I'm at least 7lbs, if not 10 overweight. Not been exercising either....there are so many things I should be doing differently.

Why put myself/us through this again?

Slaps/advice needed!
Debra.
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Debra
My clinic well in fact both the clinics I have been to have NEVER given any advice to prepare ONLY to stop smoking if you do but other then that they have both said be yourself otherwise your body will go into shock :shock: and it wont work as well !!! also I asked about alcohol and they said it is far better to have a glass at night then be stressed , a high % of people get PG when they are absolutly Hammerd! I think Myself that caffine should be looked at and try and eat not too spicy stuff that would upset your tummy and generally try and eat relitivly healthly without going over the top. Now alot of people might disagree with what I have said , this is only whay I know !!! and If I exercised then I would probably do it and then stop during the 2ww.

Hope this helps

Trace x
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Hi JCB's

Now Debra - Don't you be wallowing girl. We need you and your advice. Like Traci said if you start doing dramatic different diets before tmt you will feel crap. Your body will go into shock :shock: wondering what the hell is going on! I know what you mean about reading so much about what everyone else seems to be doing with diets, acupuncture, vitamins, etc, etc. I feel I should have sorted vitamins as more of a priority. I only got my copy of Zita West the other day :roll: I wish I hadn't left it so long. I am off to Holland and Barratt (health food shop) to see what I can get but I think it's a bit late in the day. I know I haven't started yet but it's imminent.

Don't worry too much about how you treat DF I am sure he understands
it's not a walk in the park for you. My DH is very quiet and never argues but if I have a wobbly he is just there in his own way comforting me. I have said some really hurtful things in the past especially about him having a daughter and he know's I don't mean to be hurtful I am just stressed.

You don't need a slap you need a big {{{{HUG}}}} and we are all here for you 100%.

My drugs arrived this morning, so now it's really happeneing - Eeeeek :shock: They are in the fridge and just waiting for AF :twisted: to arrive now!!

Dana - any news????

Love and hugs and buckets of PMA and babydust.

Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Tracey S
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Post by Tracey S »

Dagny

Didn't tell anyone when we had FET - it's so hard for them - especially my dad who has to see his daughter go through it again - told mum the day I got a ++++++++ and told dad after the scan when it was twins on Boxing day as an extra chrissie pressie - he was over the moon. Just a thought............... Glad you have the drugs!
Debra - what are you like? Stop giving yourself a hard time - you are just fine the way you are and need not to prepare - for any of you not prepared as you call it then SOD IT quite frankly - the worst thing you can do is worry about it as this is even worse. Debra go and get some Zinc and some Vit E on top of a multi pg vit and then off you go. As for you DF then I am sure he understands but talk to him so it's out in the open and tell him you are feeling guilty - does he like footie because soon he will not notice what he is missing - sorry no indictment on you!
Good luck to you all
love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Post by DebraP »

Oh you lot do make me smile :lol:

I am doing some things right - no alcohol, gave up smoking 5 years ago, no caffeine except the bit in tea. I take a folic acid and Vit.B complex every day. I'm trying to drink lots of water but just feel I should be doing more. I felt like this last time I remember.

As for footie...Euro 2004 beckons and he'll be rapt but I just need to think TLC a bit more often.

Traci (lovely to have you back - we missed you!) my clinic are like yours - they say v. little except 'continue what you do normally' but if I push, they'll agree on alcohol and caffeine. Definitely not on aspirin though, so like yours on that Staci.

Off to read what I can about zinc, I'll try and eat it naturally if I can, given the price of vitamins here.

hugs to all,
Debra.
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Post by loopylou57uk »

hi buddies,debra i hope your feeling ok today,we do beat ourselves up about what to do and what not to do and its hard enough going through this as it is,i still exercise but not as much as i should and i take pregnacare with folic acid and i dont smoke 3 weeks on sunday! :lol:
dh takes zinc and vit c,and i havent had choc for a while now,1 cup of tea a day,but when im on 2ww i have some flavoured tea to drink with no cafeine.just do what you feel is right.we will get bfp this time! :D
great that you can start soon dagney,i was like you i too must like injecting needles and bleeding,i cant wait to start stimms next sat now,i will feel like its really getting going then.
hi dee dee,did you used to be in brookside :? only kidding.welcome to the site and best of luck i shouldnt be far behind you.
kel,hope the stims are going ok and hope your scan goes wel,
i havent had any hot flushes this time i usually do unless im getting mixed up with that happening with the stimms?
take care im off to buy some tropical fish that have lots of babies.
love loopy.
brona hope your ok.
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Dagny,

Weather here in the states (well, in Florida where I live anyway) is on the cooler side today at 86 degrees (that would be 30 celcius...I think). I know that probably sounds rather hot but it is actually much cooler than it has been the past few weeks. Needless to say, I have been staying indoors in the air conditioning most of the time!

Debra,

If you are worried about not doing things right then I should really be worried!! Before my last cycle, I continued to drink alcohol (didn't get carried away...just one light beer a night with dinner) right up until EC. Then, I stopped for the rest of the cycle. I cut down from around 3 or 4 cups of coffee a day to just one up until ET then I didn't have any. I continued exercising up until EC (even though my clinic told me not to due to my ovaries being enlarged). I did cut down on my exercise (I kind of had to as it was too uncomfortable to do very much). Then, after the ET, I started doing very light exercise from the 3rd day on. Again, my clinic told me not to but I read enough that I felt comfortable it wouldn't hurt my chances and figured that by that point, there wasn't much I could do or not do to influence the outcome. Plus, not exercising at all was making me very stressed out as it has been part of my normal routine for as long as I can remember! As far as following a special diet, I just ate the same way I always do (which is generally pretty healthy). I stopped eating sushi with raw fish after the ET. I usually have it several times a week. Oh, and I got DH to clean the cat litter box after the ET. Those are really the only changes I made (needless to say, the cat litter cleaning duty was the easiest thing to give up).

I did take prenatal vitamins and have continued taking them. Other than that, I'm really not doing anything special right now to prepare for my next cycle and I don't plan to make any drastic changes. This whole thing is stressful enough as it is without trying to change around one's whole lifestyle on top of it. I've seen there are plenty of women who end up with +tives who didn't change their daily routine at all and there are plenty who have avoided anything which might be remotely harmful, followed special diets, done accupunture and the whole works and end up with -tives and vice versa. I guess it just comes down to a person doing what they feel comfortable with. I mean I know there are many women who believe they have to stay in bed for several days after the ET in order to increase their chances. If that's what they believe in then it certainly can't hurt and at least their minds will be at rest that they did everything they could. Even though I got a -tive, I certainly don't blame it on anything I did or didn't do and I guess the choices you make just need to be based on your being able to feel that way at the end.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded message. I did just have a cup of coffee!

Does anyone know what happened to Dana? I don't think I've seen any posts from her since she went on the 2ww?

Hope everyone else is doing ok today!

Staci
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Debra - I feel awful, I'm so sorry, I really hope I didn't put that on you with the protein thing?? I feel really bad.. All the girls have given you such good advice, and the thing is with me, my system has alwasy been really sensetive when I don't eat well, but that's just me and only reason I do that is because I have always got colds but I know I am in the minority, AND this is my first go at IVF so I am just diving into every bit of research I find as I have no experience, where you have proof that it works the way you need to do it!! And that goes the same for all the wise girls on here, I am jumping in with no experience at all!! The thing is also everyone seems to respond differently to every part of this process don't they? and my clinic never advised me anything about food anyway they just said about the caffine thing.. Really sorry if I worried you, please don't!
Kel x
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Hi buddies,
Hope everyone's ok? Just wanted to let you know that my scan went fine on Friday thankfully as was quite worried - follies are now between 12-14mm. Just means that my EC will now be Wednesday 16th instead of Monday, so will re-scan on Monday just to check all ok..
Hope you are all ok and have a good weekend,
Welcome DeeDee..
Kel x
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Kel,

Glad your scan went well and good luck for EC on Wed!

Staci
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Thanks Staci!
I am looking forward to no cat litter duties too!! HAHA!
How is Florida today? 8)
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