2nd trimester bumps!!

[Jackie S]

Hi everybody

Hope you are all ok and enjoying the sun.

Elizabeth & Jen -hope your pains are easing and you are able to find some relief.

Kim -how is married life? Did you video the day, we must have watched our video at least 10 times before we went on our honeymoon 3 days after getting married.

SophieJ -Hope you are ok and relaxing as much as possible. Don't know how you are managing to do a degree at the same time as being pregnant, I'm permantly shattered.

Valli and Toni -Hope you are both ok and progressing nicely.

John went out last Saturday to get his haircut and came back with a pig moneybox for the baby complete with name on the side, only problem is WE hadn't decided on a name. He had actually chosen the name I wanted but he always been so against it I couldn't understand why. I also felt cheated which is silly because he had just wanted to do something really nice for the baby, I know it was out of love. Didn't stop me wanting to kill him though!!!! It is nice though because he has started to call the baby by this name now instead of 'Stitch' although he does slip occasionally.

We had the 4d scan on Friday and it was amazing. John told me afterwards that he had tears streaming down his face (I have only seen him cry once in 13 years) his mum came with us and said John hadn't stopped smiling since we picked her up 2 hours earlier. The pictures are brilliant to actually see a face and know that is our son I can't explain the feeling. We got 10 pictures on the day, a vhs video and a dvd. Baby is definitely a boy and now weighs 1168g. He decided he wasn't willing to play too much and I was sent on a 15 minute walk to try and activate him. We got a beautiful picture of him smiling and it totally overwelmed me. Spent a couple of hours yesterday capturing frames off the dvd on my laptop so now have an extra 279 pics saved as bitmaps (nice and big files) and I converted 45 to jpeg and John as set up an online photo album and uploaded these and our scan pictures. He has sent links out to a lot of his friends so they can view online too.

I saw a depression in pregnancy specialist a week ago last Friday. She put an urgent request in for me to see a reflexologist who I saw on Wednesday for 2 hours. She came to my house and I will have a further 5 sessions with her. Her aim is to try and help me sleep. Specialist said when the baby is born I will stay in hospital for at least 5 days on sleeping tablets to make sure I am rested and able to cope with a new baby. Obviously the lack of sleep is taking its toll on me now so it is very important to try and relax. I will probably start taking antidepressants the day after the birth although we haven't made a final decesion I have 5 options for when.

We went to France overnight on Monday, I don't think 'Stitch' appreciated the 170 miles trip each way to/from Dover followed by a ferry trip and then even more travel in France. I think John drove over 550 miles in 24 hours. 'Stitch' started kicking about 2 weeks ago and hasn't stopped since!!! He is at it constantly and I feel like there is an alien inside of me. He is really messing with me as everytime I call John over to see my mutant tum he stops moving and as soon as John walks away he starts up again. Our dog comes over first thing every morning and licks my tummy when we ask her where the baby is. One of my cats was sitting on my tummy the other day when baby moved, cats ears shot back and she started shaking and looking very distressed, took me ages to calm her down -now she just sits there moving up and down when he moves.

Well that all our news, enjoy the rest of the weekend

Jackie

[Kim]

Hi Jackie

It's good to hear from you. Married life is fab and I go all soppy everytime I look a our photos. DH's brother did a video for us and although the rest of his family have seen it we haven't yet - they assure us it's really good though !!! ( Cheeky lot !! )
How can men go all out to do something really nice and thoughtful and get it soooo wrong ? I think I'd have felt a bit deflated over the piggy bank episode but then again I can be a bit of a control freak I'm afraid. Still, like you said he did it out of love for you and the baby and it was a really sweet idea.
The 4D scan sounds amazing and a wonderful, wonderful experiance for you all !!
Sorry to hear about your lack of sleep and depression but it sounds as if you're in good hands and getting lots of help and support from the medical profession.

Hi to all you other girlies hope there have been no panics this weekend and you are all keeping well.

Luv

Kim

[Toni]

Hi Girls

Well, i know ive been away for a bit but i had the most horrendous week last week - mostly not pregnancy related thankfully! the main thing that happened was that my computer broke - somehow i lost windows explorer and without explorer - well, you're pretty much stuck without a computer. no one would/could help me and as i was stuck at home on my own it became MY job to fix it! i couldnt back anything up, i had loads of photos and documenst on there that are now lost as i literally had to reinstall everything from scratch - even reconfiguring my harddrive! i am not a computer brain unfortunately, so it was hellish for me trying to get it sorted and took me 2 days to get it right - while i was suffering with back pain and (believe it or not its come back!!) sickness.

Secondly after a visit to the doctor i was told there is a possibility that i might be allergic to wheat, or have a minor wheat intollerance.......and i am so messed up about that as i love everything thats carb based, and cannot imagine giving up bread or pasta, cakes, biscuits, pizza, so much stuff. i have tried cutting it out a bit this week but its really difficult, as when you fancy a snack where do you run to? the biscuit tin - or the toaster - or you make a quick sandwhich. Plus im now worried that if i do have to give that up whether my Babies will not be getting enough nutrients to support them........

I also had a touch of bleeding at the beginning of last week - but i am trying to not let that bother me as it was very dark and only a touch - it didnt come with any cramps, and the constant kicking tellss me that the babies are getting steadily stronger. plus i havent seen anything since.

Enough moaning - how are you all. It all sounds like things are fine and dandy with most of you? The 4D scan sounds amazing Jackie! we get another scan next week which i can't wait for, but i know it can't be anything like your 4D experience must be!! and now you have that treasure to keep forever. wow!! Have you stopped grinning yet. i am sorry to hear about your depression - at least they are doing something to help you - i hope it all goes well. and i have to say - i couldnt help giggling reading about your cat - mine both definately know something is going on with me. My girl cat comes and lies on the bed with me every morning, but she stays away from lying on my tummy now - she just lies with her head on it like its a (very mountainess!) pillow. im sure she can sense something going on as she never showed any interest in that area til i got pregnant! during the 2WW she used to lie on my belly every morning as if she was some how helping to make the little embies at home - we used to joke that she was incubating them!! Does anybody else have any pets acting like this?

Jen those pains sound awfully familiar to me. the first time i had them it was horrible and i panicked - i felt that something really bad was happening! but everytime since (only a couple more times) i have relaxed a bit more, as i think now it must be normal. I don't know if they are braxton hicks but i guess its possible - maybe a bit early for me tho?? i hope they are easing up for you a bit?

As for ordering baby stuff - my hubby is now starting to give in! (don't they always!? ) Hes still wary about ordering stuff - but at least we are going to places and looking, and have made some decisions. he is gonna have to cave sooner or later - but his main mission seems to be to get the Nursery finished right now. i went out with my SIL on Saturday and bought the border and curtains while he finished painting. Its all yellow and cream and is starting to look really gorgeous............. and Geoff has got some holiday next week, so thats gonna be a really good time to get ourselves a bit sorted. i know its still early but we have to snatch what time we can before a) i get too big and need a crane to carry me around and b) Geoff works silly hours alot of the time so holidays for him is all the time we have for getting stuff sorted.

Like i said earlier the babies are still kicking away and im loving every second of it. I went to a very important Football match last night (Leicester V Derby - anyone who lives in Leicester or Derby will understand................. ) and the babies were very responsive to the noise. Plus Leicester won 1-0 and one of the babies started to get very agitated wriggling about just before the goal, as if he or she (I personally think it was our boy from where he was lying) pleased their Daddy no end and he is now convinced we already have a die-hard Leicester fan (like him) on our hands without all the post birth brainwashing he had planned! Poor kid............. its the first match i have been to all season, and the only one i was really determined to go to. Tho i didnt half suffer with my back!! I only have myself to blame mind you...............

Well thats pretty much all my news - i have stayed away for so long as i couldnt bear to look at my computer when i got it sorted for more than a few minutes last week - but now im back.

Sophie-J, Valli (where are you?), Elizabeth, Kim, and everyone else, hope you are all well - 3rd trimester thread soon - yay!! im waiting with bated breath.........................

Take care of your bumps all........................


love and kisses as always
Toni xx

[sophiejane]

Hello, I'm back.
Wow you lot have been posting away. this is just a quickie from me. My degree portfolio has to be in on Wed aaaaggghhhhh.
I still have one assignement to finish and am away in Cornwall all weekend, so very stressed. On top of this I am working full time.
I am so so so tired, that all I am doing is working then going to bed. The other day I burst out crying at work (for no real reason other than I was due out on an inspection and I was so tired the thought of it just made me cry). So my boss sent me home and I stayed in bed from 1pm to 9am the next morning.
We haven't even started the nursery yet. All we have ordered is the pram and car seat. I'm now getting a bit stressed about that.
I've also been getting stressed about baby movements. Some days she is really active and other days really quiet that sends me into panic. My pains continue and sleeping is a nightmare.
Jen .. my tummy is really hard sometimes that I can't even walk properly.
Sorry no time for personals but glad to see Elizabeth and Jackie back posting.
All the best from Soph
(shall we start the 3rd trimester thread next week?????) - 3rd trimester bigger bumps.

[Guest]

Hi Girls

Sophie.........your post could be mine........as usual!!! I have days when there is so much movement I think that he/she could not possibly be sleeping at all..........other days I am poking it and drinking ice cold water to try and get it to move............the whole thing drives me nuts......just want to be able to physically see he/she is ok!!

As for the hard tummy and cramps thing........that is still going on with me too.........must be Braxton Hicks!

Try to destress about work a bit...........I know where you are coming from though as I got myself in a right tizzy the other day about my degree..........just know I am not going to get it finished on time........the thought of never getting it finished made me cry too.......then I thought to myself..........realistically even if it is only doing 2 hours at the weekend for the rest of the year when DH is around.......I WILL get this done. Also, my biggest most happiest priority is in my tummy and that is truely all that matters.........no point in me having my degree and still doing my 7th or 8th IVF........i would be a hell of a lot more stressed if that was the case!!

3rd Trimester thread sounds good.........can't believe I am 31 weeks on Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Toni and Kim........glad you guys are well..........Toni sorry to hear the sickness has returned.........how weird!?? Good luck with the pre-natel football lessons!
Kim - still on cloud 9!

Valli and Jackie......hope you guys are well!??

We did get our stroller the other day.........makes me soooooooooo nervous.......but there was supposed to be an indefinate delay on them so I thought I better order the damn thing..........two days later it arrived!!!

We went for the Quinny Buzz, Cabrio Car seat and Dreami carrycot.......main reason being it is sooooooo easy to put up and down as it runs on a gas hydrolics system or something like that......you can put it up with your little finger. Funny thing is the dog hates it........she has been shaking every time she passes it since it arrived and won't sleep in her bed as the pram is sitting opposite her!!

Take care

Jenfxx

[Kim]

Hi girls

Blimey - one minute no-ones posting then loads all at once !!

Toni - What a nightmare with your computer !! How heartbreaking to lose photos and personal documents - had you saved any to disks ? Then on top of that the allergy, you must be doing your nut !! I can now totally sympathise with the backache as I'm suffering as well - still it'll be well worth the aches and pains in the end.

Sophie and Jen - What are we going to do with you pair ?!! I think Jen hit the nail on the head though when she sort of sat herself down and looked at the bigger picture, and lets face it none of us would swap being pregnant for anything no matter how tough things can be sometimes. Saying that I still let work and silly things stress me out - we're only human after all !!

Jackie, Valli and Elizabeth - Hope you're all well

Luv

Kim

[Toni]

hi again

Kim - You are totally right! No one on here would swap their pregnancy for the world, I sometimes feel really guilty for moaning, but we are only human like you say, all i can think is im not someone who takes too well to pregnancy. Maybe its just cos its difficult with 2 as well?? who knows i have never had the opportunity to carry one to see what the difference is............. can you believe some people actually go through the whole thing not even KNOWING they are pregnant? How you can not feel a thing i have no idea!?!

I take it you are still flying high from the wedding?

however although the sickness has come back its not too bad - i didnt have much in the way of actual sickness during the first trimester.......... mostly just horrific 24/7 nausea for a long time. only if i got up too early was i actually sick..... its a similar sort of thing now tho it more comes and goes. maybe its cos i cant keep up with the babies demands for food.........................................

My PC was horrible - luckily we had all our honeymoon and wedding photos on disk which is the main thing i guess............ but i cannot find the Egypt photos from last year (our last 'proper' holiday for a while) anywhere and that has made me cry , and since then we have moved house so it possible that any of the disks we had could be boxed up in the attic or got lost in the move.

I am the same as you guys, Sophie-J and Jen, with the movement i have one baby who is totally active, kicking away and wriggling around. and then another one who is so lazy she just gives me a boot every now and then (maybe once a day or so) just to let let me know she is still in there. Yes, thats right, I am convinced that is our girl as she was the one right down the bottom during my last scan. And our boy is the footy star along the top!

Good luck with your degrees you guys - i have soooo much admiration for you going through that on top of everything else!!!! Don't know how u manage it.........................Good on ya!!!

love and kisses

Toni xx

[Kim]

Toni

Don't ever feel guilty about having a moan, believe me I've been moaning like hell about my backache to DH ( poor thing. ) Still, the good news is I get lots of back rubs !!

Luv

Kim

[Toni]

Kim

Lucky you!! my poor DH has been working really long hours lately i hardly see him .... he doesnt get in til about 9/10pm a lot of nights, so im not getting much attention with my back. I have found long baths are good, but the funny thing is im now too big to get out. we have this fabulous deep clawfoot bath which has been fantastic for wallowing in and easing the backache, but i cant lift myself out!! - i have to make sure my DH is around to help lift me out!!!!! so him working long shifts doesnt help my bath times as by the time he gets in im usually either already getting into bed or im too tired to start running a bath!!!!

Maybe i should get one of those Male Au Pair type people to help me ......

Toni xx

[Kim]

Hello girls

Hope you all had a good Bank Holiday weekend.

We did some more shopping for the nursery and I couldn't resist getting a baby name book even though I love the names Thomas and Jessica that we have chosen.
Having read most of it I think we'll be sticking with Thomas for a boy but I found a girls name, the meaning of which, brought tears to my eyes.
Evelyn ( there were various spellings ) and it means ' wished for ( child ) ' which I think is lovely.
So if we have a girl we'll have to choose when she's born.

Luv

Kim

[Guest]

Hi Girls

How are we all doing??

Had my consultant appointment yesterday and thankfully all is looking well!! Fingers crossed.

Have to see him again on 25th for another scan and Anti-D injection, then I am booked in for the 2nd of June when all being well I will be almost 36 weeks..........can you believe it?? Although as you know I am paranoid to think ahead!! At the 36 week appointment he will talk about the birth plan etc...........oh god I can't wait.......just want to meet this precious bundle sooooo much!

On a more ridiculous note..........midwife mentioned wearing something loose and comfortable in labour.............I feel right now that i actually don't have very much to wear............going to have to buy PJs for hospital.....as only have one pair that fits. Want to be cool (temperature!) in labour and comfy but at the same time not look slightly glamourous!!?? Obviously my PJs are out as I don't want baby appearing out of a trouser leg................but also don't want my a*se showing either!!

Going to book an appointment for highlights now...........9 months later........as at the beginning my consultant said not to.........now I really really neeeeed them!

Sorry for waffling on about nothing!

Hope you all have a fab weekend

Jenfxx

[valpas]

Hi Gals,
I went for the sugar test. It tutrned out that I got gestational diabetes. It was so high, they did not bother to do the glucose tolerance test(fasting and then give glucose and test again). I went to a endocronologist. He put me for a week testing. After this week he'll decide whether to go for the insulin or not. But I think I need insulin as my test results are on the higher side only. Todday I have an appointment with the dietician.
I am scared now. I was told about the complications about the gestational diabetes.
Please pray for me.
Hope everyone are doing fine.
Love Valli.

[sophiejane]

Wow, I've had 5 days in Spain and come back to loads of posts.
Valli .... I don't know anything about gestational diabetes, but I am sure it will all be OK. Some women do get it in pregnancy and that is why they screen for it all the time. What is your doctor saying about it?

Toni .... even though I've never met you I've now got images of you trying to get out of the bath and getting stuck!!! It must be lovely though being able to tell the babies apart already. Obviously carrying twins must be hard. I'm shattered so dread to think what you feel like!!

Jen ..... hope the highlights were a succcess. What was it like to see the baby at this stage on the scan? Can you see it really clearly? I have also ordered the Quinny Buzz and MaxiCosy cabrio car seat. The Buzz has arrived but we are waiting for the car seat. Its been delivered to my Mum-in-law's but I think I will take a trip to see her this weekend to push it about the garden!!!! (when no-one else is looking!! ) I love the look of the Buzz.
I am now stressing about what cot to get ... the Stokke one is lovely because its round but its £400.00.

Kim .... snap with the back ache ... can I borrow your husband for some back rubs. Mine is not very symapthetic or useful with his hands!!! By the way Thomas and Evelyn are lovely names. I have chosen Freya because it means love, and her sister Frey means fertility.

I must admit that even though I have some regular panics about baby not moving I am starting to love this pregnancy and I have so bonded with my baby girl already. It sometimes scares me how much I love her already because I still have some way to go ... but the weeks left are getting less and less (only 11 weeks to go now Yipee!!). I have started dreaming about cuddling my baby now.
She certainly enjoyed the sunbathing and swimming in Spain because she's been an active little thing since I've been back.
I finsihed my last degree unit. Hooray I just hope I don't get it given back to me to resubmit.

Jackie, Elizabeth ... hope you are both OK.

I AM GOING TO START US OFF A 3RD TRIMESTER THREAD ... 3rd Trimester Bumps. See you on that thread.
Love from Soph-J