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LauraLou
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Post by LauraLou »

Thank you all for your wondeful support! My doctor's office called today and moved my appointment from 10:30 to 9:30 on Monday. One hour less to wait is good for me!

I babysat for a friend today. Her baby is 7 weeks old. He is huge! He must weigh 15 pounds. It was fun to play with him, but it was a little sad.

I looked up beta levels for 23 days past EC and 850 is really, really low. So I am sure that this will turn out to be an ectopic. But both DH and I are really encouraged that this wasn't another miscarriage. He even mentioned that perhaps we should try another round of IVF. We had decided against it because it didn't seem to work for us, but we may have to rethink that.

Luckily I am working Sat and Sun nights, which will keep me busy. I am supposed to attend a conference out of town next Thursday and Friday, but I'm not sure what will happen if I do have an ectopic. Hopefully I will still be able to attend. It is a seminar on helping patients deal with miscarriages, still births and neonatal losses, which is a topic close to my heart.

Laura
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Post by CarolynB »

Happy Saturday

We are off to Oxford this afternoon. 8) It is a guy who I used to work with who has moved on from Reuters too. His wife is lovely. Their son, Zac, must be a couple of months now. Popped out this morning to get a little gift - a cute brown sleep suit with a monkey hood. Tried not to think about it too much as was concerned that I might lose it! Sometimes better just to get on with it than starting thinking why am I not buying for me.............

I hope that I can be cool and happy for them. They don;t know that we are trying - let alone the 2 ops and ivf. I wonder what they'll think when I don't drink. I just hope that they just let it go rather than it attracting comment.

Anyway..........

Jackie - so thrilled to hear all about your scan. :lol: It must have been so amazing for you & dh. Running round today doing chores before we zoom out of town so may be will look on photo bucket when we get back tomorrow evening. You must be so very very happy & starting to relax a little now. Reaching the point where I guess that you'll tell people - that will be so exciting!!! When are you planning to do that???

Em - hope that you are bearing up. The 2ww is very hard. You are just looking out for every single sign that your body gives you. I hope that your dh has been able to take your mind off the waiting over the weekend

Dr Vero - surely that combines Ems nickname with what you like to be called!!! I cannot believe the guy who said that. I am amazed that you did not go straight up to him and smack him around the face. Like you say, it would not have done any good. What narrow mindedness. How fab that you look so young - you'll have to let us know your tricks!! It is good that you'll get more money and less stress from Jan - sounds like a win-win for you. Now you just need 1 more win and that is the hat trick!!! :wink:

Dania - Hope you and little blue beanie are doing well

Laura - Thinking of you and hoping that their is a miracle for you. :D You deserve. The baby sitting made me think that if you can do this last night then I shall be able to manage tonight and tomorrow with our other friends - their second daughter must be around 4 months now. Wow. Cannot quite believe that you are thinking of going to the course later next week and what a subject. I am sure that it will be incredibly insightful for you & you'll meet some amazing ladies. But don't force yourself if you feel it is too hard either physically or emotionally for you. I think that you are wise to consider another cycle. You must have good eggs as you were successful both times in certain ways. I think that you found that you had that extra insurance $ so would that cover some of a third attempt? You must be encouraged if your dh is suggesting this to after his feelings that you were concerned about before. You should definitely talk to your consultant about it & see whether he recommends another cycle.

The book that you suggested I get about Fertility Signs finally arrived after a row with the seller on Amazon who told me it had come already!!! I have read about 70/80 pages already. It is very helpful and is giving me more signs to look for. I am into charting month 2 now and can see a lot of common signs between month 1 and month 2. Two phases look pretty clear on my temp chart too although I got a cold/flu right around ovulation in month 1 so hard to tell exactly when I ovulated. Sure that it will be clearer after a couple more months.

Will think of you over the weekend and on Monday too.

Hope that you all have good weekends. When I am back from Oxford tomorrow will only be 8/9 days to my appointment. It seems to have been an age since dh and I talked and agreed to try to go again pre-Xmas. We are going to see Keane in concert next Thursday so have that to look forward to. Plus am taking my 12 year old niece shopping next Friday so hope that will all help the time pass. I NEED A PLAN!!!!!!!!!!

Lots of Love to you all
Carolyn xxxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by Xrayem »

Hi guys,

Thanks for the info on when to start the 2ww. I agree with what you guys said about the count starting from EC but my doc wants me to take it from ET which makes it 16 days post EC. Thats why I was thinking I might do a HPT 14 days from EC.

Oh and I got my dates wrong (AGAIN). The 31st Oct will be 16 days post ET and so is my official blood test date. My unofficial test date (14 days post EC) will be the 29th Oct. I forgot that there's 31 days in October! :oops:

Laura - I'm glad you and DH are making noises about a 3rd IVF attempt. But I hope that your scan appointment tomorrow shows its not needed.

Jacqui - will head to the photobucket shortly.

Dr Vero and Carolyn - hope you both had lovely weekends!

I am completely recovered from the EC/ET which worries me a little. I have no pain, headaches or nausea. My Embies were fertilised 7 days ago and according to my books, implantation should have happened by now. I am worried for them.

Yesterday I had some very strange feelings which I was hoping some of you may shed some light on. I suddenly got this tingling in my hands and feet (like pins and needles, but burning). It lasted about 20 minutes. Then my hands started to shake uncontrollably. This lasted 30 mins and went when I had a gatorade drink. It came on again about 2 hours later and then I have had nothing since. Is this the after effects of the ET, the progesterone or am I just going crazy?

Thanks for being here,
Em

Back to work for me tomorrow. UUUURRRRRGGGGGHHHH!
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
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CarolynB
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Post by CarolynB »

Hi Everyone

Em - just to say that I read your post. I am sorry that I cannot help. I did not have any feelings like that so afraid that I cannot shed any light for you at all. We all react so differently. If you are uncertain then could be worth giving your clinic a call on Monday just to check it out - even if just to put your mind at rest. Hope work is ok for you. Try to take it as easy as possible for you & your little beanies

Laura - will be crossing everything for your check up tomorrow :lol:

Jackie, Dania and Dr Vero - Hope that you have all had nice weekends

We had fun with our friends out near Oxford. Their son was very cute and I felt suprisingly ok. Not sure if it is cause he is 14 weeks so looked quite grown up. Or that my friends did not ask us anything insensitive at all. Or it was just lovely to see them and their son. The thing that brought a lump to my throat was seeing dh play with him and make him chuckle. Anyway - we went and saw them so I feel good about making the effort.

Appointment now just over a week away.

Hope that you all have good weeks.
Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by LauraLou »

Em- What you are describing sounds like low blood sugar, especially since the Gatorade helped. Had you gone a while without eating? I never go long enough without eating to experience that personally :), but have seen it with patients.

Carolyn- I'm glad that your weekend went well. I can imagine it was sad to see DH playing with the baby. I can't wait until we all have our own babies to play with!

I should be sleeping right now as I worked last night, but I'm too nervous about tomorrow. I still have no pain or spotting. DH is going to take the morning off work and come with me for the ultrasound. I am afraid I am going to get really upset when/if they tell me it's an ectopic.

I will post tomorrow after my appointment.
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Post by CarolynB »

Hi Laura

I am sure that it was very hard for you to sleep at all last night.

Glad that dh is able to go with you. You need that support.

Keeping everything crossed for you sweetie.

Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by CarolynB »

Jackie

Cannot believe your scan photos. Just been to photo bucket. They are so amazingly clear.

WOW. This must have put your mind at rest.

So cool. Hope that Em, Laura, Dr Vero and I will be posting our photos there before too long.

Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by LauraLou »

Good new, bad news.

Good news- It looks like they were wrong again. I don't appear to have an ectopic. On the ultrasound we could see the gestational sac in the uterus and there is a yolk sac inside it! They couldn't see a fetal pole yet but it is a little early for that.

Bad news- The gestional sac is measuring a week behind. It is the size of a 5 week not a 6 week pregnancy.

They did lots of blood work. Unfortunately I won't get the results of the beta hcg until tomorrow.

We spoke with the doctor and he said he thinks this is an unhealthy pregnancy that will probably miscarry but he can't be sure yet. He said we will have to see what the beta level is and probably do another ultrasound next week. If there is to be any hope, we must see a heartbeat next week.

I have a little bit of spotting today but it is dark, like implantation bleeding. The vaginal ultrasound made it worse. I mentioned it to the doctor but he said only to be concerned with bright red bleeding.

I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens. The doctor wasn't optimistic but this baby has proven him wrong twice now.

Thank you all for your support. It's means so much to me!
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Post by CarolynB »

Oh Laura

Been looking out for your news. It was a v little embie to start so maybe it is just a little slow but a very strong fighter.

They have been wrong 2 times so they can be wrong again.

Will hope that bloods tomorrow bring good news for you and continue to think of you every day.

There may yet be a little miracle for you hun.

Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by jackoa21 »

Hello lovely laides

Laura oh honey I so very much hope and pray that your little fighter proves everyone wrong.. They have been proved wrong already. Dont give up honey.. So they will call tomorrow with the Beta results. I just have seen so many stories where they are wrong like this.. Hoping and praying your little just got off to a slower start....

Em
That must have been so scary with the hand shaking and the tingling. Did you ring the doc. I agree with Laura it sounds like maybe it was a sugar level. I use to get shaky if I had too much caffinee and no real substance in my belly..

Vero
It is so nice that you are all done with the stressful Thesis.. I am so jelous that you look so young. People have always thought I was a bit older than I am.. I wish I looked younger....I am glad AF is playing nicely

Carolyn
The little outfit you bought sounds so sweet. It must have been so hard to see your DH with the little one but just remember honey this dream will come true and you will get to see your DH hold your little one very soon. You are so strong and amazing I am glad your friends took care and did not ask anything insensative..

Dania
Thinking of you and your sweet bump...

Love and hugs to all
jackie
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Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
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Post by Xrayem »

Hi guys!

Laura - I'm gonna have to say it again......I TOLD YOU SO! I am so pleased for you that the sac is where it should be! And now I will turn my attentions to praying that your little fighter hangs on and has a miracle growth spurt for you!

I would agree that the shaky hands thing would be low blood sugar, but I had only eaten my normal breakfast 2 hours earlier. There was no real reason for it to be low. Didn't ring doc because I haven't had it again and I feel very normal.

Had an emotional day today. Spirits flagging a little. Will try to perk up. Anyway, have to go cook dinner for dh and house guests.

Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
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Em - Am thinking of you every day and sending super sticky vibes around the globe to you. I felt very emotional in the second week - it seems so close yet a life time away at the same time. Try to stay +ve for the little beanies. Will you do a HPT over the weekend?

Laura - Have my fingers crossed that bloods will bring you some good news & that they got it wrong again for you. The waiting must be so hard on you & dh. How are you bearing up?

Jackie - My friend baby looked so cute in the cheeky monkey outfit. It even had a little tail on the back. They loved it on him. So I felt good that I had been brave and strong and we had done the right thing by going to see them! Have you started telling people yet?

Dr Vero - are you keeping up with the acu? Just have not read you say that you had been for a few posts. I am going twice a month. I do hope that it is doing some good??

Dania - sending hugs to you & your bump

So am so happy to see my ticker is finally down to just 7 days. In a weeks time, I'll finally have been to see the consultant. Pretty certain that if he runs the same protocol as before then I'll not have time to cycle pre-Xmas. Different if he let's me start on Day 21 rather than Day 2 which I did last time. Guess the other option for me/us to think about is a FET. Have not raised this yet with dh. Will do so but nearer the appointment day. I must have time to do a FET pre-Xmas. Was planning to keep my snow babies but may be a way to do a cycle sooner rather than later as don't need all the dates/appointments for EC and ET which they don't like around Xmas when they close. Anyway I'll have a plan in a week. YIPPEEEE

Love to you all - especially Laura and Em.
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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They just called me and told me that my beta is now 5181. That means it has doubled every 2 days since the beta last Wednesday!!!

I am in a state of shock! I can't believe this is happening. They've gone from telling me I miscarried, to telling me I've got an ectopic, to telling me that I have an unhealthy pregnancy that will miscarry, to telling me there is some hope this baby will make it.

Em, Carolyn, Jackie, Dr V- God truly has heard our prayers, as the dr's office has never seen a cycle like this! Please, please keep praying for me!

I am going in tomorrow for another beta and we will see if it keeps doubling. I have another sono scheduled Monday 10/30 at 9:00. They canceled my follow up appointment to discuss our next cycle and replaced it with the sono.

Em- you are getting so close! I am praying for you and your embies. Maybe you'll have twins!

Carolyn- Thank you for all your support and kind words. I am hoping that they will tell you at your appointment that you can start cycling before Xmas.

Jackie- Your sono picture is wonderful. I can't believe how clear it is.

Dr Vero- Hope all is going well with you.
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Post by jackoa21 »

OMG Laura
That is the most amazing news ever.. OOOH you willl prove them wrong just watch.. What a story you will have to tell to your sweet little one some day.. You have a fighter on your hands honey...

Love and hugs
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
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Post by veronika »

Oh Laura,

just chekced in to see your news and I am so amazed. This is wonderful. I so hope and pray that your little one has made it. This would be the most wonderful thing to happen.
Just imagine that little figher fooling us all. I am thinking of you and won't stop cheering on your little beanie :!:

I hope you can make it through the rest of the day and night AND get some rest until you get your next beta tomorrow.

Many hugs, Vero
me: 31, DH: 43
TTC: 2.5 years
unexplained infertility
IVF#1 April/May 2006: BFN
endo-surgery July 2006, no endo after all
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