December-January Cycle Buddy's Our New beginnings

[Angie65]

Hi Sonya - just popping in to wish u all the best on the 2ww - stick little embies stick! I reckon talking to them is the go like Bec says. Next time I am going to name them and talk to them.

I hope you enjoy all the trashy mags and be up with all the celeb gossip - did you say those latest pics of Angie and Brad and their rainbow family - how cute are they?

Relax during your bed rest - I am actually quite jealous - cd do with some bedrest myself - I am so tired after my busy w/e!

Bye for now.

PS have a great holiday Carolyn - much deserved - I hope we can cycle again in the New Year.
A
XX

[sokru8]

Hey Everyone!!
Thanks for all the well wishes! Im still lying in bed chillin bored out of my face! I have read all the magazines I bought I cant believe how pathetic celebrties are! They act like marriage is so casual it makes me sick!

Angie: I didnt see the pic of angelina and brad but I did read they wouldnt get married until gay's were allowed to marry! What does one have to do with the other?

How are you holding up bec?

Any word on Jaby?
Sonya

[sassynlv]

Hey all...

sonya: Fantastic news!! 3 embies...very good. I imagine you will be able to give us all sorts of "dish" on celebrities...as i rarely have a chance to get caught up...i am looking forward to your updates!!!

Carolyn: think it is great you and dh are getting away...nice relaxing break. have a great vacation!!!

sophie: Hoping your ears are feeling better...

mia: I was on microdose lupron this cycle and had no problems w/it (maybe b/c it was a very low, diluted dose?). Hopefully you won't have any problems w/it this time. 25th, huh??? Cool. Just waiting for AF to come to get my schedule...will request the 25th if still available @ that point.

Fed: so glad AF arrived...stubborn little beatch she was!

TC: looking forward to find out what clinic says tomorrow... we will be waiting to hear. Hoping they are able to either use other pharmacy, or give you a boat load of meds!

As for me, just waiting for AF... due any day. Update on my cute niece... her younger sister offered me a "happy feet fruit snack" and i graciously took one...my 7yr old niece asked me if i should be eating that...said that probably wasn't good for someone trying to have a baby heeheehee. She is as obsessed w/me getting preg as i am

hoping you all had a great wkend!

[hopeful-in-LV]

ahh, I see. Lupron is the hotflash causing shot. Hmmm, looks as though my RE is trying something different with me. Maybe this will work for me this time. I hope so.

I think the Lupron shot I took with my trigger shot hit a blood vessel or something. That's why it stung so bad. Plus it was .80 ml. I'll be taking only .10 ml daily. I was hoping I wouldn't have to pay for any more meds this cycle. Has anyone had their health ins. pay for Lupron? I think someone mentioned that their Ins covered for it.

Sassy,
Cool that they let us pick our date. We have plenty of time to prepare. I don't know if I can wait. I'd try to spend more time gardening to keep my mind off the embies, but it is soooo cold out there!
Your neice is so smart. It must be so nice to know those little ones are looking out for you. Are you still at your sister's now?

[AMD]

Hi girls. Mind if I join in? I have been all over the place this fall, but I finally have a plan! I started my Lupron on Friday and my FET (two frosties) is scheduled for January 16.

[Shawn]

Hi Ladies,

AMD welcome to the group. You'll love it here.

Mia, my insurance company does cover the Lupron, and I believe I will be on the same dosage as you are. I think one vial is about a 14 day supply.

Shawn

[Sophia flamenca]

Good morning guys!

tee hee hee... look at that! the smileys all have Xmas hats now! How cute is that!

AMD: Welcome to the group! Of course we don't mind if you join in; the more, the merrier! I agree with Shawn, you'll love it here! Congrats on your new cycle and lots of baby dust to you!

Sassynlv: strangely enough, my ears do feel better this morning, go figure! Yesterday I did not feel so good and I hoped I wouldn't have an ear infection in addition to being horribly late in my cycle. But it seems it will clear up all by itself! Thanks for asking sweetie!

sokru8: Sorry to learn that you're bored to tears, but your energy still seems to be there and it's reassuring! Fame can represent a big change in one's life, and not everybody is able to adapt in healthy ways... keep us posted! will you go right back to work after your bed rest? You're very lucky that the holidays will start in a few days; that will give you extra rest I hope.

Today might be decisive for me. Yesterday evening during the sushi party, I had the big happy shock to find some spotting, plus pink-brownish when I wiped. I put a pad and assumed that things would just "get worse", so I assumed that my period had started. The thing is... this morning, other than light brown spotting, I found nothing else. I almost decided to call the clinic and tell them my period had started anyway, and begin taking the BCP tonight. I figure that the only reason they want me to wait for my period to start is because they want to make sure I'm not pregnant, and I know I'm not anyway.

But, after thinking about it, I decided to be 100% honest with them. I called and left a message; a nurse will call me back shortly. I'll tell her about my symptoms and let her decide whether I should start the BCP tonight or not. This is decisive because, as I explained, if I start taking it tonight, everything will happen a week earlier because of the way the clinic's protocol is scheduled. If I start it tomorrow or later, then everything will happen a week later (e.g., ER happening on Jan 20th instead of 27th).

This may sound silly to you, it's just a two weeks delay (with the 7 days of AF delay I already piled up). However, my husband and I were supposed to TTC in March 2006... since then, for many good reasons, the project has been postponed 5 times... I grieved it five times and now we're ready. Hence my being sick about getting delay after delay.

Anyway, I'll keep you posted about what the nurse says.

I'd also like to ask you guys about acupuncture. How many of you incorporated it to your IVF cycles? Have you told your doctor(s) about it? What were their comments, attitude? I started asking around and it seems like a significant addition to an IVF cycle/pregnancy. A friend gave me the phone number of an acupuncture specialist who specializes in IVF and even comes to the clinic with you on your ER and ET days to help with, respectively, the pain and increase the blood flow in your uterus. I also did a search on Medline, and I found two controlled studies specifically on IVF. The first one was on IVF-ICSI;`the sample was 225 patients (mean age = 36 years old) and they used acupuncture during the luteal phase (one group got placebo acupuncture, which increases the validity of the study). The placebo group got a 15.6% success rate, while the acupuncture group got an amazing 33.6%! In the other study, with a smaller sample (22) and simply a comparison group that did not receive acupuncture, the rates were 43% for the controls and 57% for the acupuncture group! This was IVF only and acupuncture was given all the way through the cycle.

After reading these studies, I find myself very inclined to give it a try, especially that it would be covered by our insurances. What do you guys think about acupuncture?

Have a great day!

Sophie

[lara312]

Hi ladies i hope your all ok so much is happening i wish you all luck whatever your in the 2ww or having et or ec
Welcome to amd has you can see it a great thread and very busy .
Becky great to hear from you i hope you have a fantastic christmas and new year .
Carolyn i hope you and dh have a great hoilday and come back ready for 2007 when you will get your BFP .
Jaby i hope that you have been out celebrating with dh and the rest of your family .
Aunty we have not got any storks on our board yet and i know that you will have a stash of them waiting its not long now for you is it .
Well still no af for me i have all the syptoms for well over a week or 2 even and still she hasnt shown her ugly head i just want to get things moving now .
Haylie hope you had a good weekend and feel relaxed and ready for christmas . hugs to everyone sorry to all those i have missed
love Rachel x x

[Sophia flamenca]

Hey,

Just an update... I got the call from the nurse, who seemed annoyed with me and all surprised that I had calculated estimate dates for the different stages of my IVF cycle. Duh! That's all one can do while waiting for the darn AF to show up!

She confirmed what I thought; there is no biological reason for me to wait one more day before I start BCP, other than making sure I'm not pregnant by seeing a heavy flow. Since I already know I'm not pregnant, it's extremely frustrating. I have to wait, just to prove *them* that I'm not pregnant. "But Madam, if your period starts today, even after dinner, you'll start taking Marvelon tomorrow night, you know!" YEAH, I KNOW! Is that supposed to cheer me up???? It adds no less than a week to my cycle; a nice 6 days of Lupron! I'm furious, and I'm disappointed, and I've been crying for the last fifteen minutes. I was lucky that my sweetie was in his office; I called him and he lifted me up. He seems to understand, but of course he can't 100% and he's also the type who always assume things will be complicated, so he's not so shocked at the delays. Lucky him; I wished I shared the feeling. And I'm quite ashamed to be that emotional. Gosh I don't like it!

I think I've had enough with my head and heart for now. I'm really getting sick of them. I'm sick of trying to scrape the last tiny bits of control I can have over this whole process and feed my patience; there's just no more left at this point (control, I mean). I want to throw the darn Procrea IVF calendar out the window and never look at it again. LOL I know it by heart anyway!

I think I'm just gonna shut my head and heart off for the next hours until I start seeing patients at 3:30pm till 9:00pm and forget about myself completely. I'll take my dog for a walk, it's beautifully sunny outside, and I'll let her loose on a football field not too far from our house. And I'll probably run with her, too. And when I come back, I'll just throw myself head first into Xmas gift wrapping, Xmas cards writing, and that's that. I've had enough with dates and what-am-I-gonna-find-on-my-pad-next-time-I-go-pee-and-what-does-that-mean-in-terms-of-cycle-stages-dates.

From what Lara said, I take it that Jaby got a BFP? I did not see the news anywhere on this thread. If it's the case, I'm really happy for her!

Take care guys, and I'll see you around,

Sophie

[amcsmith]

I started my estrogen pills with my nightly lupron shots. I go back on the 26th to schedule my FET. It should be the 4th or 5th.

[lara312]

Sophia i dont know that just me hoping thats why she has'nt posted that she got a BFP i really hope she has and thats she celebrating now has i had'nt seen a post either so i dont know sorry if i sounded like i knew dont want to cause confusion
sorry that your clinic is being like that i suppose its better to be sure .
love Rachel x x

[mcmillac]

Hey everyone,

Can I please join you? I jsut posted on the IVF part but this looks like a better please to be!

We had IVF/ICSI back in Oct but it was abandonded due to high risk of OHSS - we had 1st FET start of Dec and I just got my BFN. We will do FET again at end of Jan.

I really was hopeful as I experienced cramping and had bad stitch/sore abdomen the first 7 days and I thought this was the embryo implanting - has anyone else experienced this cramping and it has resulted in a BFN?

I am worried now that I may have implantation problems or something like natural killler cells that is preventing the embryos from implanting(yes, I am going crazy worrying about this!!!).

Also, I am concerned about the day our clinic done the transfer......I have a 28 day cycle and this was natural FET so we believe I ovulated on day 14. They put back 2 day fertilized embryos on day 15 of my cycle - should it not have been day 16 to coincide with the age of the embryos? Does a day really matter?

I know I am looking for answers that no-one can really answer but I was just wondering if anyone else had any thoughts on this

Kirstyxxx

[babyblue]

Just a quick post to say WELCOME to AMD and Kristy.

Still doing the AF dance for the few of you STILL waiting.

Those of you in the US, what is the cost of one accu visit? (average) I know insurance will not cover. Going to call the AccuLaser people today. The only draw back to AccuLaser is it cannot be done after starting stimms. They said something about electrical pulse stimmulatin could cause premature ovulation.

Jaby - I hope you had a BFP result this weekend.

[AuntyPebbles]

TESTING TODAY
Jaby...All our prayers with you

TWW
Ange...IVF Testing 20th4 Perfect Embies Snuggling in
Tex...IVF Testing 22nd2 Perfect Embies Snuggling in
Becleo...IVF Testing 24th2 Perfect Embies Snuggling in
SSalgado...FET Testing 24thand26th1 Perfect snow baby snuggling in
Sokru8...IVF Testing 29th3 Perfect Embies Snuggling in


JANUARY FET
Hopeful-in-LV...16 Perfect totsicles
Sassynlv...12 Perfect totsicles
Meg12...7 Perfect totsicles

IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD
Dory so sorry wishing you well in the future
Gbnut in our thoughts and prayers
Angie in our thoughts and prayers
Carolyn in our thoughts and prayers

STIMMING

Jordan...FET...21st December... Transfer
Julie2039...IVF...7th December... Stimming
Saxony...FET...17th December... Stimming

HAVING WARM MOMENTS
Shawn...IVF...21st December....... Start Lupron (On BC)
TCBalgord...IVF...24th December(On BC)Start Stimming
TransRN...FET...26th December....... Start stimms(On Lupron)12th Jan pos ET)
BabyBlue...IVF...3rd January(On BC)Start Lupron
amcsmith...FET...4th/5th January....... Transfer (On Lupron)(26th schedule FET)
Vickie...IVF...15th December....... Down Regging
Fed...IVF...4th January....... (On BC) Start Lupron(20th Dec Np Meeting)
Hopeful-in-LV...FET...25th January....... (On Lupron) Transfer
Sanny...IVF...??.......

COUNT DOWN
Sophie...IVF...??th December....... Start BC AF Jig
Ems1971...IVF...21st December....... start Buserelin
Macca...IVF...22nd December....... Start Down Reg
AMD...FET...22nd December.......Start Lupron(16th Jan transfer)
Lori...IVF...24th December....... Start Stimming
Lara312...FET...28th December.......AF Jig Start Downregging
JackieG...IVF...29th December....... Start Stimming
Haylie...FET...31st December.......Start Downregging
Mominwaiting...IVF...??th December....... Start Downregging
Aunty...IVF...2nd January....... Baseline
Paula...FET...10th January....... Possible Transfer?
Shantala...IVF...10th January....... Open Day at clinic
ArizonaKiwi...IVF...13th December....... ???
mcmillac...FET...??th January....... Transfer

WAITING FOR START DATES

Sully.....8th January....... Meeting with Dr
Jemima.....?? January.......New Cycle start
Tony.....?? January.......New Cycle start
Angie.....?? January.......New Cycle start
Michela.....?? January.......1st Cycle start
Nimble.....Jan/Feb....... Start new Cycle
Souris.....Jan/Feb....... Start new Cycle
Charity.....Jan/Feb....... Start new Cycle
BigWhiteHapyDog.....Jan/Feb....... Start new Cycle
Mrs M.......??? November ......waiting for app from new clinic
HelloKitty.....Dec/Jan ....... FET
Mom20 new IVF cycle march/april all our prayers for a baby belly for you

BABY DUST TO OUR FEBRUARY BUDDIES
Charity
Bigwhitehapydog

Birthday Count Down
JackieG..23rd December,Lori...28th December,Aunty....8th February,Nimble.....7th March,Shantala.....9th March,Angie.....20th March,Becleo.....3rd April

[becleo]

Damn Don't know where to begin..

Sonya- hope you are sitting with your feet up!!!! so funny little tid bit of celebrity gossip. Do you read any articles on Lance Bass the fellow n'sync memer that came out of the closet and is Dating Reichen Lehmkuhl from reality tv... WELL I dated Reichen (Rick) in High School. YUP my gay ex boyfriend is dating a former n'sync singer! NOW thats gossip hehehe.

Sassy- neices and nephews rock huh!!!!!!!!! any AF signs?

AMD WELCOME ABOARD!!!!!!!!!

Sophie- Hon you have the strength within to be ok with all these ups and downs... it is hard, we all know how the nurses and docs can be, BUT we have to remember to them it is their job, to us it is our LIVE, our EVERYTHING! there has been MANY setbacks for me on this road, bu each one you will amaze yourself at your strength. at your persiverance. you will get thru it. one thing my DH said to me when I was pushed back a MONTH was."Bec when our child is 18 will you think wow he/she could have been 18 and a month... it is so true. It is so easy to lose sight of the big picture, but try to focus on the big picture and it helps so much!!
As for Accupuncture. LOVE IT, been doing it for over a year and it has helped me with the IVF SO much I can't begin to tell you. I had it done before and after this last transfer so finges crossed I am one of the lucky ones. love ya!

Rachel- no AF yet. OK HERE IS MY OFFICE CHAIR AF DANCE FOR YA!!!!!!
erin said it worked for her! hehehe

Kirsty- hang in there, I had the test done to check about the implantation problem, they usually do that after 3 or 4 failed IVF/FET?IUI's if it a concern just ask the doc, they might do it, It is totally normal your fears, but it is so rare try not to be too worried!
I am so sorry for your BFN, it sucks, no other words for it, but hang in there all the ladies here are awesome cheerleaders!!!!

BabyBlue-
I pay 70$ per accu. it does suck that insurance does't cover it! but anything to help get the BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HI To All. PMA!
Bec