Susie ... It's really good to hear you sounding so positive. Well done to you. Going back to work will take your mind off things, but make sure you don't overdo it. Remember, you're the most important thing at the moment, not the work.
Take care
Sandra x
May 05 - 2ww
That's good Susie ... I'm mostly office based too, but I manage to get very stressed with all the incompetent people around (!), so I'm better off at home out of the way.
Hope all you 2wwers are feeling okay(-ish ?) today ?? I've had real bad AF pains through the night. They've subsided a bit this morning though, so fingers crossed it comes to nothing. I do remember having AF pains though from day 5-7 on the last 2 cycles. Today is day 7, so I'm hoping they'll disappear.
I've a friend coming round for lunch today, so that'll force me to get dressed ! I've been in my pyjamas since last Wed !! She's a celiac (sp?) so I need to get my brain into gear and decide what to rustle up ...
Sandra x
Hope all you 2wwers are feeling okay(-ish ?) today ?? I've had real bad AF pains through the night. They've subsided a bit this morning though, so fingers crossed it comes to nothing. I do remember having AF pains though from day 5-7 on the last 2 cycles. Today is day 7, so I'm hoping they'll disappear.
I've a friend coming round for lunch today, so that'll force me to get dressed ! I've been in my pyjamas since last Wed !! She's a celiac (sp?) so I need to get my brain into gear and decide what to rustle up ...
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Thanks Little P ... Rang my gp's surgery this morning, and they're going to ask the doctor to do me a sick note, without me needing to go down there, so that's good. As is the norm, I'm swinging from being optimistic to downright convinced it hasn't worked. Df's just got back from work. He's bought me the FHM joke book, so that shold keep me occupied for a while ! Bet they're all real blokey jokes though...
Sandra x
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Hi Sandra
hope your still feeling okay. I do yoga - I've always thought if I get to the 2ww I will just do the lying on your back thing thinking about soothing things - palm trees etc or not thinking at all. I find its very relaxing.
Yes even though all three previous cycles were Natural, I got an egg each time which is I believe is good in itself. I am pretty regular so I suppose that made it easier. The first two attempts we didn't have ICSI and both eggs were fertilised by more than one sperm, the third time we did have ICSI and it didn't fertilise! What can you do!
I believe the drugs do aid the maturation of the eggs - I'm not sure why. My consultant said that I should not think there was a problem with my eggs as in a hormonal cycle it would be very ususal for some not to fertilise but by the third attempt it was grating slightly - which is when I decided to have drugs & they said they would try Letrozole (your oestrogen level stays low with this).
There has been one letrozole baby born from the tests done in America - so far only two ladies from that trial have used their frozen embryos. So that's not a bad success rate! from a very tiny trial anyway!
Did your hospital discuss natural/hormonal FET or do they just decide what their protocol is? No one at my hospital (Hammersmith) mentioned that there are various ways of doing this - So I'm a bit confused about that.
I & am crossing all my fingers & toes that you can donate that bottle of Wine to the church fete. Take Care, Vickyx
hope your still feeling okay. I do yoga - I've always thought if I get to the 2ww I will just do the lying on your back thing thinking about soothing things - palm trees etc or not thinking at all. I find its very relaxing.
Yes even though all three previous cycles were Natural, I got an egg each time which is I believe is good in itself. I am pretty regular so I suppose that made it easier. The first two attempts we didn't have ICSI and both eggs were fertilised by more than one sperm, the third time we did have ICSI and it didn't fertilise! What can you do!
I believe the drugs do aid the maturation of the eggs - I'm not sure why. My consultant said that I should not think there was a problem with my eggs as in a hormonal cycle it would be very ususal for some not to fertilise but by the third attempt it was grating slightly - which is when I decided to have drugs & they said they would try Letrozole (your oestrogen level stays low with this).
There has been one letrozole baby born from the tests done in America - so far only two ladies from that trial have used their frozen embryos. So that's not a bad success rate! from a very tiny trial anyway!
Did your hospital discuss natural/hormonal FET or do they just decide what their protocol is? No one at my hospital (Hammersmith) mentioned that there are various ways of doing this - So I'm a bit confused about that.
I & am crossing all my fingers & toes that you can donate that bottle of Wine to the church fete. Take Care, Vickyx
lol ! Thanks Vicky ! I've never tried yoga, but it sure might be a good way of calming me down after a day's work. Maybe it's something I could look into ?
The Letrozole does seem to show a promising success rate at the moment. For the past year, my hospital (St Mary's, M/cr) have only done medicated FETs. They say this is mainly due to easier planning, less visits needed, fewer cycles needing to be cancelled, and H&S. I will be interested to compare this last 12 months results with other years.
This is my first FET and I've actually found it more stressful than a fresh cycle. Everyone else seems to find it easier, but I kind of felt a little out of it - as though it was just happening and I didn't have any input ... no daily bloods, no daily visits to the hospital, no scans etc ... kind of hard to explain, but it felt like it was just going on around me. Plus, the nightmare 24 hour thaw period. Anyway, hopefully this will be the last time !
Sandra x
The Letrozole does seem to show a promising success rate at the moment. For the past year, my hospital (St Mary's, M/cr) have only done medicated FETs. They say this is mainly due to easier planning, less visits needed, fewer cycles needing to be cancelled, and H&S. I will be interested to compare this last 12 months results with other years.
This is my first FET and I've actually found it more stressful than a fresh cycle. Everyone else seems to find it easier, but I kind of felt a little out of it - as though it was just happening and I didn't have any input ... no daily bloods, no daily visits to the hospital, no scans etc ... kind of hard to explain, but it felt like it was just going on around me. Plus, the nightmare 24 hour thaw period. Anyway, hopefully this will be the last time !
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Me again Sandra
I understand what you mean about not being a part of things with FET. I already feel a bit like that. I have had my clinic appt early so I can try and fit in a holiday before starting, so now I already have my prescription & I thought, quite complicated instructions to follow sometime mid July and won't actually see anyone till two weeks after I start injecting Buserelin.
It does seem weird after intensive scanning & blood tests etc, and what if you start on the wrong day or something? I'm sure I'll be ringing them again before I start to clarify things.
I definately think Yoga has helped me - I used to have very extreme panic attacks which resulted in me being prescribed anti-depressents & Valium for about 8 mths. Even after I stopped having the medication I felt like I might panic at any time (once you know the feeling you are constantly alert to it) - which means you are reluctant to go out. Since then I have had 3 months of acupuncture - not sure if that helped.
It was relaxing but then I'm not sure if that was the effect of the needles or having someone concentrate all their attention on me & how I felt.
I also did a Yoga class at the same time - extremely funny to start off with. I've never done a group class thing like that - so I'm afraid found the whole thing hilarious for the first couple of weeks. Excess nervous energy I expect.
Anyway I now do it on my own at least 3 times a wk (I bought a book) & I can honestly say I am a different person. I can recognise when I'm tense and I know what to do about it. I haven't had a panic attack at all for about 4mths. I would not recommend you do anything now of course apart from breathing & relaxation - I'm sure you wouldn't but don't do any bendy stuff!.
Sit cross legged on the floor (soothing music, relaxation tape if you've got it). Block one nostril & breath in 10 times, then the other & repeat 3 times each side, then breath in through both nostils 10 times. Do it slowly, with feeling!
Then Lie on your back, with your feet slightly apart, drop your chin forward slightly so your neck muscles are relaxed and just lie for 15 minutes (relax your face muscles), the yoga teacher said you should imagine your thoughts floating away in a bubble, you should try and eliminate any worries obviously whilst doing this. I found this very hard to start off with but eventually you look forward to it. It does relax you & takes your mind off things. It also puts things in perspective. Maybe give it a go this afternoon. I would say yoga is something that requires practice. It is not easy to immediately relax in a fast paced world but it does come & is very worthwhile. Okay I'm going to stop going on now as I believe you have a rather complicted lunch to conjure up! Love Vickyx
I understand what you mean about not being a part of things with FET. I already feel a bit like that. I have had my clinic appt early so I can try and fit in a holiday before starting, so now I already have my prescription & I thought, quite complicated instructions to follow sometime mid July and won't actually see anyone till two weeks after I start injecting Buserelin.
It does seem weird after intensive scanning & blood tests etc, and what if you start on the wrong day or something? I'm sure I'll be ringing them again before I start to clarify things.
I definately think Yoga has helped me - I used to have very extreme panic attacks which resulted in me being prescribed anti-depressents & Valium for about 8 mths. Even after I stopped having the medication I felt like I might panic at any time (once you know the feeling you are constantly alert to it) - which means you are reluctant to go out. Since then I have had 3 months of acupuncture - not sure if that helped.
It was relaxing but then I'm not sure if that was the effect of the needles or having someone concentrate all their attention on me & how I felt.
I also did a Yoga class at the same time - extremely funny to start off with. I've never done a group class thing like that - so I'm afraid found the whole thing hilarious for the first couple of weeks. Excess nervous energy I expect.
Anyway I now do it on my own at least 3 times a wk (I bought a book) & I can honestly say I am a different person. I can recognise when I'm tense and I know what to do about it. I haven't had a panic attack at all for about 4mths. I would not recommend you do anything now of course apart from breathing & relaxation - I'm sure you wouldn't but don't do any bendy stuff!.
Sit cross legged on the floor (soothing music, relaxation tape if you've got it). Block one nostril & breath in 10 times, then the other & repeat 3 times each side, then breath in through both nostils 10 times. Do it slowly, with feeling!
Then Lie on your back, with your feet slightly apart, drop your chin forward slightly so your neck muscles are relaxed and just lie for 15 minutes (relax your face muscles), the yoga teacher said you should imagine your thoughts floating away in a bubble, you should try and eliminate any worries obviously whilst doing this. I found this very hard to start off with but eventually you look forward to it. It does relax you & takes your mind off things. It also puts things in perspective. Maybe give it a go this afternoon. I would say yoga is something that requires practice. It is not easy to immediately relax in a fast paced world but it does come & is very worthwhile. Okay I'm going to stop going on now as I believe you have a rather complicted lunch to conjure up! Love Vickyx
I agree with Vickyp regarding yoga...I am now in my 4th week...after a -ive 1. IVF I wanted to do everything possible to make the 2. successful. I am an extremely high-strung person (and control freak and worry over everything! 
)..so I thought yoga would help me in everyday life anyway. A friend is a yoga instructor and the class is about 8 people. I really, really enjoy it! I prefer to go to class because I am afraid of doing something wrong and having injuries. I think the yoga will help tremendously with the ET..last time I really tensed up - next time I will practice my breathing exercises and relax.....
)..so I thought yoga would help me in everyday life anyway. A friend is a yoga instructor and the class is about 8 people. I really, really enjoy it! I prefer to go to class because I am afraid of doing something wrong and having injuries. I think the yoga will help tremendously with the ET..last time I really tensed up - next time I will practice my breathing exercises and relax.....Traci
me37,DH49
IUI 01/05:-
1. IVF - 04/05: -
2. IVF -cancelled -preg nat-m/c 5w3d
3. IVF -success
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me37,DH49
IUI 01/05:-
1. IVF - 04/05: -
2. IVF -cancelled -preg nat-m/c 5w3d
3. IVF -success
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Hello Tracii
just thought I would say hello really. I found it a real relief to find something that teaches you how to calm down. I am considering having acupuncture again - maybe a month or so before ET (if they defrost okay). Another thing I noticed was that I had been having 25/26 day cycles - then after 2 mths of yoga it was 28 days - which can only be a good thing. It's SO weird to me that exercise does actually effect things like that.
I mean I know that you always read about these things but until it happens I have a real difficulty connecting my brain to my body - if you see my meaning!
It is very encouraging to realise that there are other ways of life that can make you relaxed. I would never have believed it! Vickyx
just thought I would say hello really. I found it a real relief to find something that teaches you how to calm down. I am considering having acupuncture again - maybe a month or so before ET (if they defrost okay). Another thing I noticed was that I had been having 25/26 day cycles - then after 2 mths of yoga it was 28 days - which can only be a good thing. It's SO weird to me that exercise does actually effect things like that.
I mean I know that you always read about these things but until it happens I have a real difficulty connecting my brain to my body - if you see my meaning!
It is very encouraging to realise that there are other ways of life that can make you relaxed. I would never have believed it! Vickyx
Vicky ... Thank you for all the yoga advice !! I will give it a try ... maybe not this afternoon, but def. in the next couple of days. Will let you know how it goes !
Lunch went well ! It turned out she has been reintroducing other foods back into her diet and is coping well at the moment .. so we had cheese salad kebabs, which were just scrumptious even though I say it myself !
Make sure you're double clear on the medi instructions .... don't want you overdosing yourself, like I did a couple of weeks ago (I nearly had a fit !).
Sandra x
Lunch went well ! It turned out she has been reintroducing other foods back into her diet and is coping well at the moment .. so we had cheese salad kebabs, which were just scrumptious even though I say it myself !
Make sure you're double clear on the medi instructions .... don't want you overdosing yourself, like I did a couple of weeks ago (I nearly had a fit !).
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Hi Sandra and everyone
I had a bit of a scare this morning. I suddenley woke up to my womb contracting really hard. I don't know whether I had been coughing in my sleep or that I'd had some wild dream
(wish I could remeber it 
). Joking apart, I'm quite worried about my embies. I managed to calm it down with deep breathing excercises but i don't know if any damage has been done. How can I stop myself deaming 
I know I'm probably being stupid. Isn't the 2ww a pain in the bum. I've been through it a few times and it never gets any easier.
VickyP - I do lots of meditation and have accupuncture. Boy, have I needed it!
Suz x
I had a bit of a scare this morning. I suddenley woke up to my womb contracting really hard. I don't know whether I had been coughing in my sleep or that I'd had some wild dream
(wish I could remeber it ). Joking apart, I'm quite worried about my embies. I managed to calm it down with deep breathing excercises but i don't know if any damage has been done. How can I stop myself deaming I know I'm probably being stupid. Isn't the 2ww a pain in the bum. I've been through it a few times and it never gets any easier.VickyP - I do lots of meditation and have accupuncture. Boy, have I needed it!
Suz x
Me 40 DH 35 TTC=6years
Me-mild PCOS
4xIUI = failed
1xIVF(August'04)=failed
1xFET(Dec'04)=failed
1xFET(Feb'05) =failed
1xIVF(MAY'05= POSITIVE***
Me-mild PCOS
4xIUI = failed
1xIVF(August'04)=failed
1xFET(Dec'04)=failed
1xFET(Feb'05) =failed
1xIVF(MAY'05= POSITIVE***
Suz ... I'm sure you haven't done any damage ... Do we need to add this to the Dos and Don'ts List ... No Dreaming !! I can empathise with your feeling this way though ... every little twitch and twinge is over analysed... My worry for this afternoon is that my AF pains have gone - don't know why I'm worrying though !
Sandra x
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11