The Over 40 Crowd

CarolineP · Post by **CarolineP** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:31 am

OMG I cannot believe how much has happened in 10 days. There is so much pain and joy in these messages that it is a testement to life itself.

To those of you who are experiencing so much pain my heart goes out to you and I hope you find the strenghth to get through this and continue with your hopes for the future.

To those of you with joy in your heart, I wish you the very best of luck and may your joy continue to swell and grow and time moves forward.

For my part, I delivered a perfect beautiful girl on 30th November at 9.35am weighing 7lbs 2oz (3232). Ameila Leah is a very placid good natured baby who currently eats, sleeps, wees and poos at regular intervals. She only cries when Mummy cocks up her feeds and leaves her way tooooooo long. DH is marvellous and is working from home in December which is great support for us.

We have agreed that this is the end of our IVF journey and are thankful every day for the end result. We will try for another baby on our own in about 6 months but are realistic of our chances of a natural pregnancy - DH says at the end of the day it will be fun trying!

As this is a new era in our lives I have decided not to continue with these message boards, as any pearls of wisdom from me, regarding IVF, are tucked inside a message somewhere on these boards. I only hope I find another board for new mums which will be as informative and supportive as this one.

I just want you to remember and any new WWW that it is possible to have a perfectly healthy baby when you are over 40 - keep up the PMA.

CarolineP

dancola · Post by **dancola** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:49 am

Caroline, many congratulations on the birth of your daughter. It’s a great achievement and inspiration to the rest of us. I personally think you are totally correct in giving up these boards and move on so totally understand your decision.

Good luck with everything,

Nicola

Jeni Babes · Post by **Jeni Babes** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:01 am

Congratulations Caroline....thank you for all your wisdom and input ...enjoy your life with Amelia

little sweetie...bless her...and good luck with trying for another

x X

Kat- i keep thinking of you and what a nightmare you are going through...sendng hugs and prayers for you and DH.. x x

Big J- wonderful news...again congratulations. Hoping Monday brings a full on hcg ammount and therefore A mega BFP...how many?? we will need to wait until the scan i presume

...I am so happy for you...enjoy your time in Kiev and stay away from the food markets!!!!

love to everyone
jen
xxxx

lara · Post by **lara** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:35 pm

Hi Everyone,

Kat, I hope you're coping, have you m/c'd yet or will you have to go for D&C, let us know, worrying about you.xxx

Congratulation to Caroline, it's encouragement to all of us, how lovely to imagine you with your baby daughter! Give her a hug from us and don't let anyone tell you how to be a mum - it's all rubbish and people get quite bossy! Your own way is the best.

Jules, so so so cool to hear your news. I know you've got to take it a step at time, small steps, to get through each hurdle, and that's very sensible, but I have a good feeling about this for you - for what it's worth!

Lots of love,

Lara

randa2006 · Post by **randa2006** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:18 pm

Ladies,
Still in Cuba. Quick note to say I miss you.
I'll be in touch next week.
Anxious to catch up and see how everyone is doing.
Hard to find interet here and very expensive when I do.
Love,
Randa

AMck · Post by **AMck** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:44 am

Hi Ladies
Thank you Caroline for your wonderful message. You are an inspiration to us all. Much love to you and yours.

Kat, are you OK today? Still thinking of you.

Jen, how are you? What a positive determined gal you are! I keep reading your posts on other threads. Even in the midst of your sad news you are still sending messages of hope and good luck to others. Fab, fab, fab!

Randa, good to see you post. Have missed you!

Big J , what great news. When are you back from Kiev?

Have a good weekend all. PMA all round
Bye for now
Anna x

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:13 am

Julie - sorry I haven't replied 'til now to congratulate you on your bfp, I really hope everything works out for you, you deserve to have your dream come true.
Caroline - congratulations on the birth of Amelia, you are our inspiration.

To everyone else - thank you for all your kind messages - I am still around and will keep my eye on all of you - forgive me if I don't post much for a bit

Kat xx

taylorjools · Post by **taylorjools** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:26 pm

Hi girls

just wanted to say congratulations to Caroline, and thank you for all the support over the year. You are a true inspiration.

Kat - take your time, you know where we are..have you been to the lost ones forum on this board?? DeniseM, Princess and I all m/c'd in June this year, and found that very spiritual and helpful.

Anna - I was only 10 days in Kiev - now I am back in Germany although I must say I would have loved to stay there for the whole pregnancy they are so fantastic at the ISIDA hospital!

Nice to know you are still there Randa - enjoy Cuba!

How are you doing Lara???

Jeni - thanks for all the +ve vibes, hugs to you too

I did another test this morning just to make sure

still BFP...just biting my nails til the beta result Monday

Love to all

bigJ

erjumper · Post by **erjumper** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:11 pm

Hi everyone. I had to step away from this board and all things related to infertility and babies after my last and 3rd miscarriage. We are out of insurance assistance and near broke from the 3 year endeavor but we were just accepted into a research study using donor eggs so i'm cautiously optimistic that my miscarriage days are over since our donor is young and healthy. I've tried to catch up on everyone's progress but there is so much to comment on.
Kat, I KNOW your pain! Reading your post brought it all flooding back. Looking at that US machine and seeing that tiny person with no cardiac activity. It's taken me so long not to think about it every day and since my SIL delivered in October it's been baby baby baby!! MIL talks about nothing else but what the baby did that day. I love him, he's absolutely adorable, but i'd like to talk about something else sometimes. I wish there was something any one of us could say that would help you feel even just a bit better but we all know there isn't. But we understand like no one else can and we hurt with you. My thoughts are with you.
Caroline,
CONGRATULATIONS! I desperately needed to see some happy news. I just hope that in 10 months i'll be here telling you all about by delivery. The roller coaster ride starts again just after Christmas. Thank god I won't be hormonal yet at Christmas. At least I can get through the holidays without crying every day. Give your sweet princess kisses and hugs from all of us!
It was nice to be away for awhile but it's comforting to be back to the only place where people really understand.

Lisa

AMck · Post by **AMck** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:24 pm

Hi ladies, can I ask a question?

When we started our tmt we were asked to choose between IUI, IVF and ICSI. We were advised not to go for IUI as I was over 40!???
Now I read that some girls have undergone ER and had some eggs IVF'd and others ICSI'd. Is this common? Has anyone here done this? It sounds like a good idea to me... but you wise women may know more than me.
Any advise? Thanks

BigJ , hang in there. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Kat, thinking of you

PMA to all
Anna x

lara · Post by **lara** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:03 pm

Hi Lovely Over-40 Strong Women,

Anna,
My (limited) understanding is this:
- ICSI vs IVF : If the sperm are 'normal' then usually ICSI isn't going to help - for example, my DP's sperm are good in all areas (including motility) so we've never had an issue with fertilisation, and never needed ICSI. So between straight IVF and ICSI, we would obviously choose IVF. If you need help with fertilisation because of sperm problems, then it's worth paying the extra for the ICSI.
- IUI vs IVF : If there are any tubal problems (identified by X-Ray or laparoscopy) then IUI isn't going to work so have IVF. If there are NO tubal problems then IVF might still be better if, for example, there's a chance your vaginal fluids or uterine fluids are too acidic or non-supportive to sperm, which is difficult to diagnose. So sometimes people are just told to go straight for IVF because it cuts out diagnosing tubal problems or other problems with sperm getting up to the tubes. However, as you get older, IVF success rates decrease at a faster rate than IUI success rates, so if you know you can conceive naturally, or if you know that your tubes are okay, it's worth trying IUI. One reason is that young embryos do better in-vivo than they do in-vitro because the environment is perfect instead of synthetically created in the lab.
Complicated eh?
I've done IVF x 3, got pg x 2.
IUI x 1, don't know result yet 2ww.
Clear as mud?

Hi Jules,
nice of you to ask - I'm on 2ww after my last cycle only produced 2/3 follicles so converted it to IUI on the spur of the moment, rather than blow all my money on a very slim chance of success. Very excited about your news! Hope it's going well.

Love to Jeni, Love to Kat, thinking of you both and sending you the force!
Also Lisa, glad you 're getting another go.

Lara xxx

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:10 pm

hi all
just to quickly jump in to let you all know that tomorrow is our big day. we go to clinic at 10.00a.m. we are hoping to have 3 to put back in, and then it will be the dreaded 2ww.
i havent been very well lately, resulting with a night in hospital due to severe headaches and very high b.p, which was 200/133, had to have e.c.g and bloods and drips e.t.c, needless to say we got a fright and very nearly pulled out of this whole thing, but....im too close now to turn my back on this, i could never live with the what ifs...
i am very nervous about the thaw and i just dont know how im going to sleep tonight, i have done sooo much cleaning, just to keep busy..
sorry for the rambling, i will post tomorrow
love jackie xxx

JackieG · Post by **JackieG** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:25 pm

Jackie,

Wow.. you have had some scare!! I hope you are feeling well now.

Good luck tomorrow. With everything that you have put into this, I'm sure it will be BFP!!!

Sending Baby dust and everything crossed

Jackie

erjumper · Post by **erjumper** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:26 am

Jackie,
Best of luck tomorrow! I'll be thinking healthy embryos for you!
Lisa

Jeni Babes · Post by **Jeni Babes** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:07 am

jackie T 10am Tommorrow we will be thinking of you...then holding your hand through the 2ww...

try and chill the rest of the day

if you can!!!!

Lana-Good luck on this 2ww...hope you get a BFP this time Sweetheart

every chance is slim! lets hope Mother Nature does her stuff

Jules- Hope all is good at your BETA test today???hugs and sticky dust...hope those embies are well embedded now

Hang in there

anna- how are you? good luck for your meeting this week (tues?) hope you get all the answeres you need.

erjumper- That's good news being accepted on to research study...good luck with that? have you a start date?

kat- thinking of you swetheart..how are you doing?

Randa good to here from you...keep enjoying Cuba

I am feeling more positive this week after last weeks BFN...it sure does take time to work through the grief. Christmas can either help or hinder and at the moment it is helping. While watching my nephew and nieces last week i enjoyed seeing the youngest happily visiting santa and getting excited over which baby Annabelle she wants! The older ones are all excited about the school christmas Dance

Make up on with a trowel for the girls, boys are drowned in hair gel and body spray

Kids eh....anyway guys I am thinking of you all

take care love jen
xxxx

The Over 40 Crowd

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