Looking for a good clinic in Sacramento area, please help!!!

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Alicia ~
75% is amazing. You are very lucky. I did call Health Net today to confirm that they only cover 50% of some of our meds. Unfortunately Kaiser or Health Net doesn't cover any part of my IVF procedures. I am a teacher with San Juan and don't have great benefits through them. With all the budget cuts and rising health care costs they keep taking parts away. When I first started my IUIs at Kaiser they were free and towards the end San Juan changed the plan and only covered 50%. It was frustrating. I am going to call my district and find out if I switch to their HMO if it would change at all. Our son goes to a Kaiser pediatrician in Davis whom we love. He is great. Are you seeing one at Sutter?
I hope you are resting and taking it easy. I know it is the longest wait ever. Dr Z is very laid back. I was also sad he didn't recommend the aspirin. I had to learn about some of the suggestions off of this board. Although sometimes I think at the end of the day he is right - it doesn't matter what you do - it just doesn't always work. It is so hard to not look back and question what you did during that 2ww.
I can't wait to hear your good news. I know it will be great. When do you do your blood draw?

Amy
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Hi, Amy. Our pedi is actually with UC Davis; we chose him b/c he also treats kids with disabilities, and my dss has CP. It's so sad that ins. is so expensive that employers are cutting back. The 2ww is definately a terrible time and I really don't want to feel like I've done anything wrong, but deep down I know that it'll take if it's meant to be. I did stay off my feet for most of the day yesterday and today; I actually hid in the bedroom while dh was hanging out with him at the other end of the house. I felt so bad; I heard him asking where I was and dh kept saying I went to the "gym" which he's used to. It was a pretty big deal for me to be away from him for 5-6 hours, so once I heard him melting-down, I suddenly came home from the gym :wink:
My beta is on Dec. 18, and although I'm trying to stay calm, I'm pretty internally uptight.

Thanks, again, for your well-wishes.

Alicia
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Alicia ~

Have you also considered acupuncture? I did do some with my last FET and found it quite relaxing. I went to a lady by the name of Joan Plastino and she was amazing. So soothing and calming - I fell asleep through most of my treatments. She is located over by me off of Arden by Morse Ave and also works at a few other clinics. Her specialty is womens issues. I think I have all her info if you are interested. She also partners with Dr. Cherry if you have heard of him.
I hope you had a relaxing weekend. It is hard to still be a mom while working so hard to relax and take it easy! Kind of an oxymoron. Can't wait to hear about your results.

Sincerely,
Amy
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Post by Enrico's Mommy »

Hi, Amy. I actually went to Dr. Cherry for one of my cycles. I absolutely believe in and love acupuncture, it's just expensive. I'm a SAHM, so it definately makes it difficult to add anything additional to the budget, especially at Christmas time. The cycle I did acu didn't work, but I think it's b/c I was stressed at work, and rushing all over town to the clinic/acu/work was a big mess. I remember rushing down Sunrise at lunchtime trying to make it to Dr. Cherry's so I could get back to work ASAP. Stupid! Anyway, thanks for the info. Enjoy the rainy days.

Alicia
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Amy and Alicia,

I've been off the board for a little while, but found it interesting reading your posts as I have Kaiser and am NCFMC and live in Fair Oaks. I did acupuncture this last cycle with Dr Cherry, although Joan Plastino did my day of transfer. I'm trying to decide if I am going to do it for my upcoming frozen cycle. I may just do it for the day of transfer. I just had my follow up appt with Dr Murray today. We haven't decided for sure what to do if the frozen doesn't work, but did talk about donor eggs. I just don't want to waste all our money on my eggs if they could be the problem. It's hard to know because on paper, my cycles have looked good. I have also just started to research adoption as there are so many different ways to go about it, I want to be prepared if we end up doing that. I think we may do one more fresh but not sure if it will be donor eggs or not. We will stay at NCFMC though. I know I had a hard time leaving Kaiser since I had been going through them for so long and love Dr Klooster, but I have got used to NCFMC and everyone has been very nice there. Good luck Alicia on your 2WW and Amy with deciding what to do.

Kelly
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DH 37 low counts
3 1/2 year old daughter conceived after 3 IUI's
8 failed IUI's since
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Oct/nov ET 11/6
August IVF 3 8cell BFN
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Hey Kelly and Alicia-

It is such a small world. I did love Joan. She was great and yes Alicia I only did a few due to the budget. I wish money wasn't an object in all this but unfortunately it is the biggest factor. DH and I just had a discussion on it tonight. I had mistakenly made the promise when we decided to do IVF that we would only do one cycle and then I would be done. Of course I just assumed it would work as we had always been ruled male factor. Now, that the fresh and frozen cycles didn't work and I had that APA test come back positive I am dying to try again while using the heparin and baby aspirin. DH rolls his eyes as it is so hard to dump another 8-10K on another round of heartache. What do you girls think... should I try a few cheap IUIs on heparin and see if that takes?? I am so desperate I am trying to think of ways to make money including taking our tax return to Tahoe. I think I might be losing it. I have also thought about selling random finds on ebay. I might be 40 by the time I save enough! Help ME!!

Amy
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Amy,

I know where your at right now. They thought I was a shoe in with the IVF since I got pregnant right away with my daughter with IUI's (I don't ovulate is supposedely the only reason why I need fertility treatments), but then when we started trying again, they noticed my husbands sperm counts were on the low side. So, we thought it would happen first time with IVF. Then when we had horrible results our first IVF -2 bad quality eggs only, I lost complete hope and ready to go to donor eggs. Then another Dr told me he thought I just had a bad protocol and too suppressed, so did it again, and got way better results and still a negative. So, did it one more time, with even a little better results and another negative. I almost wish I had still had bad results because it would be easier to quit!!! I had in my mind 2 tries would be the limit, I'm kind of justifying another attempt (other than my upcoming frozen cycle) with the tax money we will get back that I never factored in. It's almost like a free cycle in my mind. Although donor eggs are more expensive if we go that route.

I talked to my Dr, and think we will only do the accupuncture for the day of transfer this time, mainly due to money issues.

Keep me posted on how things go.

Kelly
ME 34 ovulation issues
DH 37 low counts
3 1/2 year old daughter conceived after 3 IUI's
8 failed IUI's since
first IVF May 2006 BFN
Oct/nov ET 11/6
August IVF 3 8cell BFN
Nov IVF BFN
FET 2 blasts 1/18-BFP due 10/6/07
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Post by Enrico's Mommy »

Hi Amy and Kelly. It really is a small world when you can meet multiple people with so much in common online who are almost your neighbors.


Amy: I would probably try the IUIs, also, just b/c it's cheaper. Did you not use baby aspirin at NCFMC? I did with my three cycles there, and I even did it this time, even though my current RE didn't have it on the protocol; I just felt more comfortable with the same drugs as our last cycle. Ebay is always a way to go, as well; I started selling random things around the house last year and have made enough to buy normal household items and Christmas gifts, which is really nice.

Kelly: I had two cycle with horrible egg quality and my last two had much better quality, so I do think there are tweaks that can be made to get the job done. I was also convinced that my first cycle would work and it took 4. Blah. I'm sure the acupuncture helps!

I'm doing okay in the 2ww. I have a really good feeling about this, as I'm getting little symptoms and just feel like it worked. I'll give you guys details after my beta on Monday.

Alicia
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It is such a small world. It gives me such comfort that there are others out there with the same feelings and emotions that I am living with. It is just a nice form of validation... especially when most of my friends and family have NO idea what all this feels like or how it takes a toll on you both physically and emotionally.

I have been continuing in my quest for what we should do next and was given the name of a clinic in Los Gatos - it is Dr. Allan Beer - I believe he specializes in immunology and genetics. I am looking into it as they say he gets your body "healthy" for a better chance at conceiving. It of course is also not cheap but some swear that you don't need an IVF with his work. I think I might approach Kaiser and see if they will put me on heparin and aspirin and do a few IUIs. I figure it really can't hurt at this point and is worth a shot. I have never been told to use the baby aspirin before so I think it is worth a shot.

Alicia ~

I can't wait to hear your beta results tomorrow. Katrina will hopefully call you right after lunch... Will you please post as soon as you hear? I am waiting on pins and needles. I really hope you get the best holiday present ever. What a way to go into the new year.

Kelly ~

You and I should come up with something to do or sell to make some money for our IVFs. I keep thinking I should hold a bake sell or sell scrapped goods like cards or ready made pages as I am not too talented at much else. My husband thinks I am crazy and just laughs... but I am going to come up with something. I just hate that money is the one thing that keeps me from continuing. I just don't want to look back and have any regrets. I hear what you are saying with each time it getting a little better. It really makes it harder to quit. You become an addict! Just one more try and maybe that will work... or try this drug and it will improve your chances. I too only did one acupuncture session prior to treatment and two the day of due to money. Joan Plastino was so sweet that she threw in a complimentary one a few days later just cause she wanted me to have as many as I could. I did appreciate it. When is your next cycle starting?? Beginning of January? Are you excited??
amy
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Hi, guys, I did get a +++ today at 11dp3dt and the number was 152, which seems pretty normal. I'm very excited and afraid and really hope Wed's numbers continue to double. I hope the both of you follow suit ASAP! I have to run, as we just got home from a 4 day weekend and I need to unpack.

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Post by amy »

CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is so wonderful. You said you had some inclination... so your instincts were obviously right. I can't wait to hear about your next number. I bet Katrina or Dr Z was thrilled to deliver that result.

All the best,

Amy
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Amy,

Well, I'm not even creative enough to sell anything unfortunately. It doesn't help that my husband just got a new job and had to take a pay decrease, but in the longrun it'll be better for retirement. Everything we are doing is going on our home equity line of credit. Have been able to pay some of it on our own, but not much. Luckily we didn't have much on it to begin with. I just started the estrogen shots (tuesday and fridays) and estrogen suppositories for the frozen cycle. The transfer is tentatively scheduled for Jan 4, but if my lining isn't up next week (trying to get it up to 10), then we will delay it a week. I decided to go ahead and do a couple of acupuncture treatments before transfer, so just had one last night with Dr Cherry. He is off next week but they are having a "Jennifer" from his Sacramento office come in on friday to do anyone who really needs it. Have you heard of her? Good luck with your decision on what to do. Hopefully you can come up with something for the money.


Alicia,

Yeah, congrats!!!! I'm very excited for you. Gives me hope. Let us know how your next beta is. How are you feeling?

Kelly
ME 34 ovulation issues
DH 37 low counts
3 1/2 year old daughter conceived after 3 IUI's
8 failed IUI's since
first IVF May 2006 BFN
Oct/nov ET 11/6
August IVF 3 8cell BFN
Nov IVF BFN
FET 2 blasts 1/18-BFP due 10/6/07
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Hi, guys.

Amy: Thanks for the congrats...I'm on pins and needles, it's really hard getting back to normal life after getting the good news, especially since my mind is only on the u/s which isn't until Jan. 9th. So many things could change b/t now and then....scary.

Kelly: I'm so happy you're on your way! I was so much more relaxed with my FET than with a fresh; I really hope the acu helps. I wouldn't worry about Jennifer, although I don't know her, I'm sure if she's got Dr. C's vote, she's good. Keep us updated...I'll cross my fingers for you and hope you get a nice thick lining soon.

My second beta was 366, which the nurse said was on the "high" end, but I don't seem to see any data that says it's very high. The next two weeks will be tougher than the 2ww. If I don't "talk" to you guys before, have a Merry Christmas!

Alicia
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Alicia ~
366 does seem high. So no more testing until the 9th? That is such a long time to wait. Lets talk them into one more blood draw to find out if it is still so high that it could be twins. Would twins be a nightmare for you? I always thought twins would be so great as our first is already 5 going on 6 and then they would at least have each other as playmates. I am just so thrilled for you. You must just think positively and expect the best news on the 9th! You have to be thinking that 2007 is going to be a fantastic year for your family.

Kelly~
I agree with Alicia - the FET is so much more relaxed than the fresh cycle. Especially since in your mind you already know there is a chance it won't work. For whatever reason that just made it less stressful. I know that sounds crazy. My frozen one worked for a bit so I am going for a positive result on yours. If you both are pregnant that would give me so much hope to try again! As for my strange financial planning... I have come up with a few things for ebay and my girlfriend is pushing me to sell the cards I make. I love being "scrappy" but don't want to spend my weekends at strange craft fairs so I think I might have my husband build me a website. We shall see where that goes. We were also using equity at first, but we sold our house to move to Arden Park so our son could go to the better schools over here... We kept out some money, but with the more expensive home, we are still trying to get used to the payment. YIKES! We are also awaiting that stupid property tax bill that makes you pay the difference between the seller's purchase price and ours... BIG DIFFERENCE in price... so it might be large. Enough of my crazy finances. Sorry for going on and on... I just feel like you girls are right there with me and understand the difficulties of this whole process - both physically and financially. As for your lining - I have heard that certain teas, yes herbal teas, increase the lining. I have also read on this board that baby aspirin does as well. I think with the acupuncture that should help also. That is supposed to increase the blood flow so lets cross our fingers on that. I can't wait to hear about your findings. At this point - I would try anything to get the job done.

Hope you both have a wonderful Christmas and a fertile New Year.
amy
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IVF w/ ICSI October 05 -ive
FET July 31st 06- Chemical
IVF w/ ICSI July 07 - BFN
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Amy: I'd love to have twins; it would be a real challenge, b/c we have a 15 yo (my stepson) who's disabled and in a wheelchair + my little guy who is a handful on his own. You should see us in action, we're quite the spectacle (sp?). I'm sure it would be a trying year, but I'm up for it. I've always wanted 3 kids, but don't think I want to go through another pregnancy after this...it just takes such a toll on your body. I also would love to have a brother for Enrico and a girl for daddy, so b/g twins would be perfect. Can't I just place my order? I shouldn't say anything even remotely negative about pregnancy/baby-making because of how long it took me to get here...I don't want to sound like a butt...I totally appreciate everything that's been given to me, especially since I went though so much. I thought I'd never be a mommy.

Kelly: Amy's right about the asprin and the herbal tea. I've done both with both my bfps. I was drinking red rasberry leaf tea right until the ET, b/c it's supposed to even out the "female" system and help the uterus function properly. It's not bad tasting and I think the brand was "Yogi Tea" or something similar.

Alicia
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