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Post by shantala »

fed - oh its good that it was only a 24hour thing. :D its good that they let you do them any time but i would be the same as you, if they tell me to do them at 2am in the morning i would get up and do that! :lol: downregging is where they shut your body down compared to stimming where they stimulate your body and make your follicles grow. i can never figure our which one lupron is used for.

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Erin isn't that 24 hour thing great?!?!?!?! Been going around the whole country and it's horrible. Word of advice, disinfect the whole house. I had it right before xmas and then I just got it again the other day. Thankfully my whole family is finally done with it, so I cleaned the whole house as I heard that is the only way to control this thing.
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Hello ladies! :D

How is everybody doing? I figure that many of you went back to work today! Aaaaah... I share your pain! ;)

I went to the clinic this morning for my first Lupron shot and to pay for the procedure. I had been counting the days, almost! I showed my husband many times that I was impatient to be there! And once I found myself in the waiting room... hehehehe I was not so sure I was even happy to be there! I was nervous because in a few minutes I was going to inject myself for the very first time. And I was reminded once more that I belonged to the infertile crowd. And I was happy because that appointment meant I was well into my cycle. And I was anxious to see the nurse count our money on the desk because I was telling myself, "well, this better work, because that's a lot of money!"

Aaahhh the roller coaster ride! ;)

The self-injection was a piece of cake, really, but right before I did it... I was scared. My hands were shaking! I just could not push the needle in! It seemed so long against my skin and I did not know if the piercing of the skin would hurt! And I had to push it all the way through! I did not know if the needle would burn, if the meds would burn, and so on. I tried twice, then took the needle away from my skin and said, "I'm unable to do this!", then tried again, and bingo! Went right in effortlessly and it did not even hurt. The meds burned a little bit, but about a minute after I had removed the needle, so it's no big deal at all. I don't even feel anxious about my next self-injection tomorrow, and let me tell you I'll fuss much less. ;)

Nevertheless, when my husband saw that I hesitated twice before being able to do the injection, he offered me to do the injections himself. He just wanted to help, but with the emotions I felt at the moment, it ruffled my feathers a little bit because I saw it as if he saw me incapable of doing it myself, as a sign of weakness. hehehe he was just trying to help, poor thing, and we did not quarrel at all! but HA! I'll show him tomorrow that I can do it in three seconds and a half! 8)

... and earlier today I rewarded myself with low fat chocolate milk and a cranberry muffin. Life is sweet!

And about the down regging - Lupron confusion... I think one of the sources of confusion, at least for me at the beginning, is that Aunty's list is labelled "having warm moments" for the down regging part. Not that it's Aunty's fault per se, but when I tried to figure out the term, I checked the list...

Lupron creates the mini-menopause, so it's down regging. In my case, Puregon will do the stimming, or stimulation, part.

...hehehe I keep doing a little check every hour or so to assess if I feel irritable or hot... lol nothing so far! ;) I guess it will take a few days... beware!

I asked a few questions about the 2ww. The nurse insisted on the fact that implantation will happen within 3-5 days after ET. She said it was important to take it easy during that time, avoid intercourse until the blood test, violent sports and lifting things over 10 pounds, but she said the clinic did not recommend bed rest at all. She laughed when I told her other clinics told their patients to avoid taking baths. She said the clinic would give me a paper to miss work if I really wanted to, but said that it's really not needed of me to miss more than one day of work (e.g., the ET day), especially if I mostly work in a sitting position. Just thought I'd share that; the clinic's stats are very high so I guess they know that they're talking about.

I believe even more in what that lovely woman from Australia wrote on the Do's and Don't sticky thread about how doing too much can be as bad as doing too little, that the most important was to continue living and enjoy life as much as possible during those two weeks. I understand the "I want to do everything possible to avoid feeling guilty later on" argument... but given what the nurse said, I don't think I'll miss more than one work day... I'll stop flamenco until the blood test because of the jumps and shocks involved, but I'll take baths as planned; I think it will help me relax a great deal. After the nurse's reaction, I don't see why I would deprive myself of that.

Charlie Thanks for clarifying the dates with me. After my appointment this morning, I have a more precise idea. I have an appointment on the 18th for a blood test to see if my ovaries are shut down properly. I bet it will be the case; I'll be on Lupron for 16 days! I'll start Puregon, or egg food or stimulation, on the 19th. Then on the 23rd, I'll have another blood test and be scheduled for an ultrasound on the 25th or 26th. They will check my follicles; the nurse told me that in 11 years, only one woman got the trigger shot after that first u/s. I'll be scheduled for another u/s two days later, so on the 27th or 28th. Usually, people have the trigger shot that same night, some others need a third u/s. Given my age, I might not need to extend the stimming period to a third ultrasound. So my ER should be around Jan 29-30th and my ET, 3 to 6 days later. Either way, my pregnancy blood test will be 16 days after my ER, so either on Valentine's Day or the day after.

...wouldn't it be cute to have a BFP on Valentine's Day? :D

So anyway... according to my dates, do you think we'll still be quite close in our cycles?

Haylie hehehehe thanks for your empathy! But my coming back to work was not that bad after all. I'll finish really early and because of the appointment, tadaaaaa, I kept the car so I won't waste time in public transportation. I'll be home in about 40 minutes. Joy!

Ange Thanks for your empathy, too, and I laughed at your attention span! ;) I understand that you must be scared and excited at the same time... but try to focus on all the precious info that your last cycle gave you and your doctors. They have a pretty good idea of what happened, and it's better than to be left in the dark and give it another try. They will know how to shape your next cycle even better. I think that knowledge would help me a little bit... but, like you, I would be cautious. *hugs*

Jackie Yes, by all means, you can PM me about accu and femoral massage! I asked the nurse today about the clinic's view of accupuncture. They'll let me have an acupuncturist at the clinic with me, no problem... "But as far as recommending it... no," she added, with a face... lol it really looked like, "well, if you want to reassure yourself with that, fine, but in my opinion, bringing your Teddy Bear would have the same effect!" ;)

TansRN Glad you enjoyed your honeymoon in Europe! It's such a lovely place... I'm really looking forward to explore it even more. I've been to France, Belgium, England, North of Italy, Switzerland, Luxembourg and right through Germany so far. Hehehehe... and now that I think of it... I saw a lovely couple of storks in flight near the highway while we were driving! ;)

Shantala, Aunty, thanks for noticing about me starting Lupron today! :) A sweet attention!

And Aunty YAY for AF's visit! Whoohoo!!! I'm sure it was the Disco jig... sure of it! Even without the smiley, I just KNOW! ;)

Take care ladies! Have a great day!

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Post by Vickie »

Hey all!
I really cannot keep up with this thread it really is so busy!!

Just a quick one as i have the worst headahce ever - Aunty would you please be able to update your stunning list as i started stimming today!

I will try and catch up 2moro night!

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Post by AuntyPebbles »

Woohoo Vickie way to go on astarting the egg food....come on follies grow

Sophie thanks for the cheers as for the list it did used to say down regging but someone didnt like the term and asked that it be changed so i did (i dont like the term surpression)and as lots of times down regging causes mini menopause like symptoms i thought it appropriate it would be much to difficult for me to list each persons meds and impossible to keep up with everyones different cycles that way so im sorry for the confusion i do my best it still amazes me how we all take different drugs in different amounts to get to the same result....

still as long as we all know what we are taking and when and we all end up with a big baby belly im good with that....

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Vicky Congrats on starting the egg food! You're getting close! Go girl! Sorry about the headache, though... :(

Aunty Hello dear! Don't worry; as I wrote in my previous post, I was not suggesting that your list is wrong! It's already amazing that you make one and keep it updated! :D It's just that, when you're not familiar with the net-ivf-forum-speech, your list is the first place someone will look at because it's right there and it's easy to see. Hence, as I wrote, my initial confusion. Of course it would be horrible to list everyone's meds, and the list would be even more confusing then. I don't take Menopur, for example, and I've only heard of Suprefact... so I would be confused if you used that method!

Why was that person uncomfortable with the "down regging" term?

Would "ovarian vacation" be an acceptable alternative? :lol: It's rather self-explanatory and I find it has that "sunny-beach-away-from-work" twist that feels particularly great in January... no?

Okay, off to dinner prep!

Have a great evening!

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Post by Angie65 »

woo hoo ! aunty - you are on your way at last. It seems like an eternity that we were on our 2ww back in June. New Year, new beginnings :D

Your list is definitely the best on the board without a doubt!

PS - now I am ready to move up to the "waiting for AF" section - because no matter what I will have in the next couple of weeks, be it natural or artifical and then I will be back on track too.

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Aunty: oooo, now i will have to figure out how to paste the "Saturday Night Fever' smiley so we can whip out the John Travolta whenever needed. i knew not even the evil AF beotch could resist disco! Whatever the reason...wooohoo for your AF!!! Finally you get to start! Yipee!! As for the fab list.... we all appreciate it (yes, i am being presumptive enough to speak for everyone...how do you think i got the nickname sassy???:wink: )

Sophie: glad you are feeling more confident now on self-injection tomorrow. Exciting that you are moving along now!

Angie: glad to see you are moving to "waiting for AF". good sign!!!
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So, I went to the DR today for BW and US and I now have 14 follies and they up'd my dosage again to 300mg.

My E2 dropped to 872 but they were glad because they thought it was too high yesterday at 1200. I go back on Friday to see how its going and they will probably let me know if ER is monday or not.

My LH dropped and they said that it was a good sign meaning I didnt ovulate. :D

Auntie, So glad AG showed!! Lets get this party started :D

Sophie, so glad you were able to give your self the shot. It get easier I promise!!

Vickie, Congrats on starting stimming!! Follies, Follies!!

Rachel, Glad your felling better. Good for you to have such a great DH!!

Take care all,

Its getting late and I have to go rub my bloated belly!! :oops:

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Auntie,

What is AG??? :oops: Oops!! I meant AF!!
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I wanted to say hello to everyone and wishes of BFPs, for everyone. I have started Lupron today (the 3rd) and I have been trying to pretend that it is life as usual, but I am so excited!!! I stop the BCP on the 5th and I start Follistim on the 10th.

My new years resolution was to not be sad or angry about insensitive pregnant moms or random strangers who just "are not ready for a child" by their statements, but are pregnant.

I am so proud of myself, (sadly), today I met a pregnant woman (for work) and congratualted her and really meant it. I think 07 will be a great year!

I have decided not to take the herbs with the acupuncuture and I have to say, I see Dr Mark Fields in Sacramento and I think he is great!

Hopes and hugs for all!

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Post by shantala »

morning ladies

sophie - thanks for the link you posted about 3 pages ago...i managed to have a look at it yesterday and its quite useful. its also raised some more questions for me that i want to ask at the open eve. your post was really useful too about your experience at the clinic with your first injection. as its my first ivf i'm worried about that too and what you were feeling sounds very much how i imagine my first shot. and the paying thing - its so much money and so much depends on it. thanks for sorting out the lupron confusion - i thought it was downregging but wasnt sure, especially as i still dont know which meds i will be on. interesting to hear also about what your clinic said about the 2ww. i havent decided what i'm going to do yet but did think i would probably just take a couple of days off (especially as i sit mainly at work) but i think i'll see what my clinic suggest. oh, you made me laugh about the "ovarian vacation"!!! :lol:

vickie - congrats for starting stimming!! woohoo! bring it on!

aunty - not long now, i'm so excited for you!!!

angie - i hope AF shows very soon!!!

jackie - 14 follies sounds great and i'm so pleased that your DR is pleased with your levels. not long now. make sure you let us know when your ER is...cant wait! AF stands for "Aunt Flow" which is your period.

cook - woohoo for starting lupron yesterday. one step closer to that BFP!!

bye for now ladies.

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Hi Ladies

Wow - I can't believe how much you miss out on when you don't log on for a day! This work thing really gets in the way!

HELP - I'm a bit confused again! Lupron is down regging and you inject that yourself over a period of days - is that right? Over here - I just have one bigger injection of something called Gonapeptyl and that's it - down regging started and AF expected about a week after.

Rachel - I hope your cough gets better soon - bless your DH for looking after you!

Sassy - good luck growing your 'pretty lining!'

Vickie - congratulations on starting stimming - one step closer to BFP!

Jackie - 14 follicles - that's great and maybe ER on Monday - that's so exciting. I hope menopur works as well for me!

Aunty - congratulations on AF arriving - good luck with your baseline.

Ange - keep going hun, am thinking about you! It must be so hard for you, lets hope that New Year is New beginning.

Denise - I thinks that's a great attitude, it is so hard to congratulate others when you are so wishing it was you. Congratulations on starting Lupron! One step closer!

Sophie - Well done for doing your 1st injection! I think we will be incredibly close on our dates! I didn't ask how long after ET I would find out about result. I think I was hoping it would be less than 16 days - that's soooooo long to wait! But a BFP on Valentines day would be wonderful!
I also asked what I should be doing in my 2ww, my clinic said go on as normal. They said that if it is a healthy pregnancy it will stay, if not it is natures way of telling you that it wasn't healthy and therefore not meant to be. I'm sure I will be a little cautious (as I am a PE teacher) but I do intend to go to work the next day.


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Hey ladies

How are you all today?

Well, just got back from the clinic and the scan shows my ovaries are nicely surpressed, just got to wait for blood results tomorrow and all being well hopefully I can start stims on Monday - woo hoo! I'm on 6 ampules of Menopur this time, compared to 4 last time - jeez, I'll have to get up at the crack of dawn to start mixing!!! :lol:

Take care all

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Hey Ems,

Thats great news hun - lol@having to get up at the crack of dawn to do the mixing :lol:
I was on 4 the last time and i remember too well about the mixing, so my sympathies are with u on that one - but hey, just think of all the lovely follies that will be growing nice and big for u with each prick (haha! prick of the needle i meant lol) :D You should get more eggs with the more menupor = hence better chances - good luck Ems, ur in my prayers, as is everyone else too :D

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