The Over 40 Crowd

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DianeC
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Post by DianeC »

Hi Everyone

Debra, the only side effects that I get from the Lupron is more like flu symptoms, runny eyes especially in the morning. Some days a fuzzy head as well, usually in the mornings. Pretty insignificant when I think about the later injections so not worth complaining about at this stage :) . Just that I had an exam this morning and wanted a clear head.

Lisa, this is our 4th visit to San Diego. We usually spend a little over two weeks at a time so manage to get some exploring in. Have visited San Diego and surrounding area's, Mexico, Solvang and surrounding area's and Julian. This time we are going to spend some time in Los Angeles. We really like the area as well. We almost feel local as we have special places and resturants to visit each time we are there.

Bev, the flight to Los Angeles is approx 12 to 13 hours from New Zealand. It is very difficult to get a non stop flight from Australia. They only leave on certain days which this time did not fit with us. The problem with flying is that we need to do the injections and it is not easy to find a place where we can do them. We usually have to get a staff member to get everyone out of a womens toilet block and stand guard whilts my DH gives my an injection. Not very pleasant at all. On one occassion one staff member (who was extremely unhelpful) suggested we do the injection almost in full view of the public - I had a problem exposing my behind in that sort of situation :lol: But SHE could not see the problem and really did not care at all about our situation - it was very stressful and DH was very angry, I thought he was going to get us arrested at Los Angeles airport! Hopefully all goes well this trip.

Look after yourself Debra and good luck with your upcoming scan.

Keep positive.

Di
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Post by erjumper »

Di,
Visions of you standing in a fully loaded 757 with your butt hanging out are truly thought provoking. hehehehe I had to do my injections on the plane when we went to Vegas but I do them myself so it was easy to slip into the disgusting pee all over the floor and walls bathroom and try to inject myself without touching anything. Hope you have better luck this time. Make sure you visit the Gaslamp District down by the naval base. There are some great restaurants there. If you like Italian and a nice ambiance there's a place called Croce's. As in Jim Croce.
Lisa
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IVF's
#1 m/c 5 wks
#2 BFN
#3 m/c 9 wks
#4 m/c 8 wks
#5 m/c 5 wks donor eggs
#6 FET BFN
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Post by DianeC »

Hi Lisa

We have driven down the Gaslamp district but thought it was a bit scary after dark - but will think about trying out that resturant. We generally visit Hillcrest as it has some great bookshops and places to eat - usually of a daytime.

I probaby could do the injections myself but I think it is great that DH can be involved. He is such a expert at it now, so why change :) .

Cheers Di
Jo1962
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Post by Jo1962 »

Hi all

Amazing to read everyone's (quite different) stories on here - and very comforting too - was feeling quite alone with all this before I stumbled upon this forum. Thanks everyone :D Feel so lucky to even have got as far as I have with my own eggs at this age...

Not feeling very positive about the outcome though, despite lots of implantation type pains a week after the transfer... my boobs, even though they are still mammoth, have even stopped hurting so much. But maybe that's just because I had my last pregnyl injection a week ago today... I just don't know. Who knows... and still another 5 days to wait until my HPT.

Kat - I still think Mr Riddle is quite lovely! You can keep your Dr Olivares. There's no accounting for taste is there!!! :wink: Still I wonder how come you have been on their list for such a long time? They told me their waiting list was now up to 9 months. I had to wait 7 months. Good luck with the TB next week, the things they can do now... amazing.

Debra - (my lucky star) how are you doing today? I bet you are still on cloud nine...

Anna & Tammy - how's it going ? Any sign of AF yet?

Bev - are there any league tables for ED you could check out to help you make up your mind?

Di - how are you getting on with your injections? Agreed so much better to let DH do them and feel involved! All we have to do then is lie back and think about anything else... How was your exam yesterday?

Good morning and very big hugs also to Caz, Lisa, Randa, Sandra, Lara, Caroline, Jules, Diane, and any other of us 40+s I've missed out.
Jo - 43; DH - 37 (Toy Boy!)

Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
teachertam
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Hello Ladies:

Debra: Great news!!!!!!! I knew one of us would have to join Jules soon.

Jo: I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. AF is on its way. I just hope it holds off for a few days. I have to go to Chicago on Thursday and Friday for a funeral of a good friend's mother. If AF comes today, I may have to wait until next cycle, unless I can visit my doctor on the way to Chicago tomorrow morning. :(

Diane: Have a nice time in San Diego. I enjoyed my last visit there also. The weather is fabulous.

Lisa: Your post made me laugh. I am trying to get my drugs ordered for this cycle.

I was told by my online drug company, Freedom Drugs, that they were starting a new program. If you do 3 IVF's in an 18 month period, then the drugs from Serano are free for IVF #3 !! I use 2 of the Serano products, Gonal-f and Cetrotide. Gonal-f is by far my most expensive drug. It alone cost me $2280 last IVF cycle. If you use Serano products, you may want to check with your pharmacy. My problem is that they just started the program and will not count my Dec. IVF as #1. I really doubt if I will do 3 more IVF's, but you never know. It was not my intention to go for IVF#2 either.

Have a nice day,
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Post by DebraP »

Must stop spending all day on here...

Beta is 84 which is nicely over the 50 they look for but not twin-type high.

Back later...
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Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
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Post by teachertam »

Debra: GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When is your next test?

AF is coming!! I hope it gets delayed a couple of days.


Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Jo1962
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Post by Jo1962 »

What is Beta??
Jo - 43; DH - 37 (Toy Boy!)

Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
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Post by taylorjools »

D well done on that result - sounds nice and comfortable to me!

Jo beta is Beta HCG (www.betabase.info for tables)

hugs to all

bigJ 8)
POF+autoimmune+dh antibodies,5.05 DIVF IM M/c 7.5 wks, DIVF+TESE at ISIDA - son 08/06
FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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Post by DebraP »

Jo, it's the blood test that some clinics do on test days. Others either ask you to do an hpt or do one at the clinic.

I get a bit confused with the readings as they seem to be measured differently across the world, but here, they look for HCG to above 50 to be a viable pregnancy. Although there are stories on here every month of a low number that slowly climbs and results in a healthy pgy.

I asked for another beta today as I want to know how the numbers are progressing. If doubling every 48hrs, like they are supposed to, we can relax. If they're slow then we might be looking at an other ectopic, which is our concern given the pains I have.

Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
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Post by taylorjools »

D

try and relax, I know it's hard, this must be your turn, you are in my prayers

love bigJ
POF+autoimmune+dh antibodies,5.05 DIVF IM M/c 7.5 wks, DIVF+TESE at ISIDA - son 08/06
FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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Post by Kat »

Hello all

Debra - hope you're doing OK - would you get pain this early on if it was another ectopic? Sorry, I don't know as I haven't been through it, maybe that's a stupid question. Understand you're worried - can the clinic scan early just for position of the sac rather than heartbeat if you asked?

Hi Jools - nice to hear from you - can't believe how time is flying (and obviously trying not to think how far along I would be by now) are you expanding by the minute?

Went to GP today for smear test and got upset talking about being pg - just goes to show I'm not as 'over it' as I thought. The doc was funny with me again about going to Spain - they just don't understand so I shouldn't be too hard on her. She insisted on giving me the name of a new clinic set up by a gynae she knows & suggested I try there. Didn't have the energy to remind her I had donor eggs, although I had mentioned it about 5 mins beforehand, she obviously just was not listening to a word I was saying.

Apart from that, am enjoying being a lady of leisure this week. Went shopping today and it was so quiet compared to the weekend when I normally go, I could get used to this life! Back to work Monday though, to my new desk.... DH back Sunday :D , very quiet here without him.

Can you believe it's snowing? Doesn't happen often here. That'll upset the cat. Made cups of tea earlier for a couple of boys digging a hole in the road as they looked so cold.

Enough of this rambling
Hi to everyone else too
Lots of love
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
AMck
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Post by AMck »

Hi Ladies, happy Thursday

Our list
New 40+ Mommies:
Alette (own eggs). Son Nov 05
Jude - twins (DE) 05
Joy - twins (DE) 05
CarolineP - Daughter Nov 05
Squew - twins 05

Ladies in waiting
Debbieed - own eggs, BFP August 05. EDD - April 06?
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 - EDD 15/08/06 praying hard
DPerry (Donna). DE. BFP July 05
Debra - BFP 20 Feb. Scan 10th March.

2ww:
Jo - Test 27th Feb

On meds/about to start:
Anna - Waiting for AF to start short protocol
Diane - start meds 28th Feb.
Kat - Going to Spain 2nd March for testicular biopsy for new DE tmt
Lara - Scan 14th Feb
Tammy- SIS 9th Feb, IVF 2 March
Zippy -?

Preparing:
Amfy - FET March/April
Bev- Visit to IM 16th Feb re DE tmt, considering options
Gail - planning March IVF
Jane- visit to Spain 24th Jan to decide next step
Jen - Taking time out then, next IVF in May...
Michelle - blood test Tues 14th Feb for 2nd cycle
Robyn - 2nd IVF cycle in March

Recent cyclers:
Lisa - BFP Feb but sadly lost at 5 weeks after DE
Caroline - natural FET cancelled Feb, failed thaw.
Sandra - (honorary 40+ member) BFN, hugs
Randa - BFN hugs
Caz - BFN hugs

Jo, how are you holding up? Not long to go now. Fingers crossed x

Kat, are you packed yet? Not long before you head off on your travels again. The weather here has been horrible hasn't it? Feel like hibernating! What was up with your dr today? Doesn't sound very sympathetic or helpful!

Debra hope you are OK today. Are you still having pains? Asking for an early scan may be the answer to put your mind at rest. PMA to you.

Anyway, please could I ask all you kind ladies to stop jigging for me! (I'm sure that will be a relief for you!) I am absolutely convinced AF will arrive this weekend :( Slight spotting and AF cramps are on their way in and PMA is on the way out. Looks like another month of waiting for me. Ah well, hopefully my patience will be rewarded. Thanks to you all for your support and for listening to me whinge on and on and on about AF :oops:

Hi to all
Bye for now
Anna x
Me 44, DP 42 ttc 3yrs
7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
Matthew born 23/3/07
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Post by donna99 »

hi Tammy,

I sent you a personal message.......Hope you dont mind!....not sure if you received it.....

Im hopefully being referred for immune tests soon and my blood gets sent to the US.......it goes to the FUHS/The Chicago Medical School....
Just wondering if this is the clinic where you go as i see you mentioned Chicago....and could give me any advice about it?

Or if anyone else could maybe who uses this thread?

Thanks so much girls & enjoy your day!

Lol Donna99 XXXXXXXXXX
Me31 minor endo,DH34,TTC 4.5yrs,
2 -tive iui's, 4 -tive IVFs & 3 cancelled cycles & 1 natural miscarriage.
#5th IVF May'06.BFP .Baby boy born 3/2/07.then nat preg little brother 4 first born, baby boy born 10/3/08!!!!!! WOW! & NOW VERY BUSY!!!
Jo1962
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Post by Jo1962 »

bad news :( :( :( :(

no need to wait until my Monday test date. AF started late last night. Is definitely AF. Many tears...

Now have to wait a clear cycle in order to start again. Feel so much less than hopeful...
Jo - 43; DH - 37 (Toy Boy!)

Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
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