March/April 2010 Cycle Group

[lycase]

debbie - yes sounds to me like implantation symptoms that is great signs. Hope you get your BFP.

amanda - your family sounds so supportive... funny how people who have no infert problem don't know this

Angela - yes I just reversed my name. I mentionned it a few weeks ago I wanted to do that but the board owner was busy and didn't see my request until now

I am sure everything will be fine on Monday dear. I am still praying for you don't you worry.

mkd - remember dear sometimes the BFP doesn't show until Beta... remember that and keep the faith. I know it's hard but you have to hang on... sorry again for your BNF so far and I hope it changes for the Beta even low beta is good. When is your Beta again? Don't worry dear we will be here for you whenever you are ok. Hugs... will continu praying for you girl.

Lauren1171 - No it's me I am doing good I think my boobs are starting to notice I am pg?? I am praying for you too dear... I know it's hard until you see the hb I will feel the same way until w12 I think.

oh Tammy - I was so anxious to see how you were doing? Oh dear I am so sorry Beta is going down... that is terrible. Loosing your lo is so devastating. I am so sorry.

I did have to deal with mc to happend. My baby died at 8.5w and I felt pain and a little blood at 12w. So went for an u/s and they saw it was dead and so I had to wait to mc. I was at the office working late and it happened then. You should have seen the mess I made in the public bathroom. But I saw my little baby and kept him/her. I berried it in a beautiful silver coffret and we still have it here. The kids saw it too. He was so cute.... hands and everything... just like the pictures. After I found it and was able to keep it with us I felt so much better. I just didn't want to loose it in the toilet you know.

So sorry you have to wait I hope you don't have to wait long dear. Hugs.

Sorry about your computer troubles. I guess I should count myself lucky the kids only dropped juice on my laptop. So you can come back now?

about your sickness maybe it's because your cervix is open and infection could get in?? No it's not normal I had no fever when I mc before or after??

Thanks for coming to say goodbye though we are going to be waiting for you return to let us know what you decide to do ok Hugs.

AFM - the long busy weekend is starting... will have fun lets hope everything goes good... with my mom and daughter around I think it's going to be stressful

Helene

[angelaezra]

Hi girls. I am still waiting to miscarry. This has been one of the worse 2 weeks of my life. Everything that could go wrong has.

I went for another beta on Tuesday ...just in case of a lab error. No such luck. Beta was down to 453. It was 515 on Monday and then today it is down to 360. It is coming down very slowly. I also had an ultrasound on Tuesday...and they are guessing that my baby died last Thursday or Friday. Problem is they couldnt find my baby on ultrasound and havent ruled out an ectopic pregnancy yet. The baby was just sooo small/early and by the time an ultrasound happened...it wasnt really big enough to show up anymore. Apparantly it shrinks as time goes on?

Anyhow...I have still had no bleeding at all. Not one drop. We are flying out Sunday morning for vacation...with the luck that I am having...it will likely happen as we are boarding. The docs arent too happy that I am still going...but honestly, we need this trip right now. They had me look up where the nearest hospital is to the hotel....just in case it is ectopic. I am just sooo frustrated at this point...that I am still walking around just waiting for "it" to happen. Has anyone else had to deal with waiting like this? The doc said he would give me some meds to basically induce labor if it hasnt happened when we get back next week. Why am I not surprised that I am not miscarrying. It is much like the process of labor from what I understand...and I spent 4 days being induced with Zach without any luck. Isnt this kinda like the same thing? Water breaking and cervix opening? It feels like my body just doesnt know what to do.

To make matters worse ...Zach learned how to unlock and open my laptop while I was in the shower the other day. He ripped off every key on my keyboard. Yeah, no kidding. I could read the posts, but couldnt type. In order to buy a new keyboard...we needed the part number off the back of the old one...and in the process the old one broke completely off of the motherboard....destroying my whole computer. I went out and bought a new computer today. I have a fridge lock on this computer now...he better not learn how to unlock it.

Oh and I have a question. Last night I had "severe" cramping, low back pain, chills, and fever for a good hour. I thought it was happening...but i fell asleep with a heating pad...and nada. I've been fine all day today...except some off and on again "minor" low back pain, fever, and cramping....which I've had all week. The IVF doc doesnt think it is related to the upcoming miscarriage. He thinks it is something left over from having strep and maybe a kidney infection now....and told me to call my family doc. I have been on penicillin for 10 days now for the strep and family doc doesnt think it is anything to worry about and did not have me go into his office for more antibiotics either. I'm guessing it is not a kidney infection since the penicillin I was on would've taken care of it...had it been the case. My fever has been lingering around 100.4 for over a week now (right now it is 101.3)...everytime I have checked it. I never as a rule even get a fever...it is never over 99...even with the flu. I dont feel sick..other than the back pain/cramps. Any thoughts? I think it is all related to the miscarriage personally. I hate to ask these questions to you girls...especially since it is such a sensitive subject, but I dont know what to think here. Is this normal?

This was our last chance. We have no more frozen embryos and we originally agreed to not go back again since my embryos will be from age 42 not 39 now...though this is now up for reconsideration at this point. If we do try again ...it wont be till July at the earliest...so we have alot to think about now.

Anyhow, I just wanted to say thanks for all of your kind words, thoughts, prayers and private messages. We are doing okay, and I am still around rooting you all on. Thanks again.

Sorry about the lack of personals...it's the middle of the night...and I am ready to try and sleep again now.

Congrats to all the BFP's, ER's and successful ET's. For those of you who got a BFN...know that I am thinking about you and keeping you in my prayers.

I also posted this on our other chat forum but I will post it here in case you don’t see it.

Tammy – I can’t tell you how sorry I am to hear you are still just waiting to miscarry.

In regards to your back pain, it depends where the pain is located. Is your pain located in your upper right or left area, right below your scapula (shoulder blades)? If so, that could be your kidneys but if it is lower back then that is you trying to miscarry. As far as the fever it could be the side effects from the Penicillin, left over from your strep, or your body’s way of protecting itself because your baby is releasing toxins. I think you need to go ahead and take the medications to help you miscarry. I wonder if they will give you Methotrexate. I wouldn’t think it would be anything stronger but you never know. I know they say most of the time your body will miscarry on it’s on but sometimes you need some assistance.

When lost Ashley at 21 weeks, I was further along than you but they told me the same thing that I would start to miscarry on my own but after a week I didn’t. So I was admitted to the OB delivery unit and given Pitocin and Cytotec to induce labor. It took 12 hours of labor and then I delivered her. But, remember this was because I was so far along. The medication they give you shouldn’t be that involved. I do know that you shouldn’t wait too long as your baby is releasing toxins, which can make you sick if your immune system doesn’t fight the toxins off. So as soon as you get back, please get some assistance from your doctor to move things along.

Once again, I am so very sorry. We are here if you ever want to just chat, ok?

BTW, I think Zach is just so very cute! It sounds like he is at that age where he is into everything which I am sure keeps you very busy!

Angela

[lycase]

Acutally see mine was 8.5w when he died and I mc at 12w. So it took almost 4 weeks for my body to realise my baby had died so it can be long yes. But I think I was farther along then you too.

Hang in there girl.

Helene

[nicliz]

tammy, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Will pray for you during this difficult time. Have you actually seen your doctor for a check-up. A temp of 101.3 worries me. Im not trying to over analzye it for you, but if you continue to have fever/chills without an apparent source, I would at least go in for a check up take care of yourself!

[natakia1108]

Natakia - So sorry, I forgot to ask how you are feeling today. I am sure you and your DH and are the top of the world!!!! Once again, I am so very happy for you ... Congratulations!

Angela

Hi Angela,

I am doing great!!! We are happy. I'm sooo tired though... not only does being pregnant make you tired. But I was up at 5am today shopping. Belk (dept. store) had a charity day sale...so me & some of my friends shopped from 6am-10am. Now I'm ready for bed. Doing things as normal, (just not too much) really helps me not worry about what my next beta (Monday) will be. The only problem today was I wasn't fitting the clothes & I thought man I'm not even showing yet...have no excuse!!!

[natakia1108]

ok......i did POAS and its negative
dont even want to go for my beta. but i guess i wll have to.
life seems so pathetic suddenly. anyways, i guess i will cry for a while, and get up and going.......what other choice do i have?
well, thanks ladies, you have been so helpful....and loving and kind.
now will i go on another group?? i feel bad to leave y'all
overall, im depressed. and i hate life at the moment. i just feel like there should be a localised earthquake, and i shd get swallowed up inside the earth.

Hi Mkd,

I'm so sorry to hear about the negative cycle. But PLEASE don't give up!!! My husband's primary care doctor said it took them 5 fresh cycles to get pregnant & they ended up with healthy triplets

And please don't leave the group, we know each others stories, it doesn't matter where you are at in the process we on this board are praying for and want to continue to be of help and support to you.

Natakia

[natakia1108]

ok......i did POAS and its negative
dont even want to go for my beta. but i guess i wll have to.
life seems so pathetic suddenly. anyways, i guess i will cry for a while, and get up and going.......what other choice do i have?
well, thanks ladies, you have been so helpful....and loving and kind.
now will i go on another group?? i feel bad to leave y'all
overall, im depressed. and i hate life at the moment. i just feel like there should be a localised earthquake, and i shd get swallowed up inside the earth.

Hi Mkd,

I'm so sorry to hear about the negative cycle. But PLEASE don't give up!!! My husband's primary care doctor said it took them 5 fresh cycles to get pregnant & they ended up with healthy triplets

And please don't leave the group, we know each others stories, it doesn't matter where you are at in the process we on this board are praying for and want to continue to be of help and support to you.

Natakia

[natakia1108]

MKD - I am so sorry! When is your beta? I hate to say you never know for sure til the beta, because that always drives me crazy. But it's true. Any symptoms of AF? Every negative cycle I had, I got AF 2 days before beta.

Helene - I thought you were new also, until I read Angela's post! How are you feeling?

Angela - Thanks! I am so happy now that it set in that it more than tripled. I was hoping for something in the 100's but it's still ok. I am hoping to get at least a 190 on Monday.

AFM - I don't feel pregnant and I don't think it will set in until I see an ultrasound and hear a heartbeat. I am a little worried because I am leaving for Vegas Thursday and I am nervous about miscarriage now happening while away. My f/u is Wednesday so I am going to see what RE has to say then. My mom knows I did FET and I know she us waiting for me to tell her results. I don't want to tell her and get her all excited for nothing, so I have been holding off. I know she is going to start asking any time now! My numbers looked alright based on betabase.info so I am just praying every day!

Lauren,

I say go to Vegas & enjoy yourself. Don't do anything crazy but LIVE! I had a MC @ almost 9wks the wk of my wedding in 2007. And you know what, I've gone on ahead & shared our good news. I'm not going to live by fear. I'm claiming this victory that God has blessed me with. I'm not going to worry about MC. I mean I still get nervous before beta tests, but that's natural. I do believe God said it's my time now & I TOTALLY believe it. Have fun with your DH in Vegas!!

[natakia1108]

Tammy,

I'm so SORRY!!

But Tammy & Helene, I've NEVER heard of waiting to MC. when I went in for my 1st U/S the week of my wedding (remember it like yesterday) 3/12/07, I saw the sac but the baby had died & didn't have a heartbeat I remember the DR. saying they could take it out on Thursday I demanded they take it out that day, Monday & they did. I healed over the next few days & got married on Saturday.

I don't understand, now Tammy I do recall you saying they didn't see it on the U/S...again I'm so sorry.

But Helene, why did they make you wait? I was at the same time period and had a DNC. And they gave me the pills to make sure my uterus contracted.

Tammy I'm praying for you.

[nicliz]

just got the news that 14/16 eggs retrieved were mature and 8 fertilized, now praying those embies keep growing! praying for all you ladies

[angelaezra]

just got the news that 14/16 eggs retrieved were mature and 8 fertilized, now praying those embies keep growing! praying for all you ladies

That is great ... 8 fertilized! Are you going for a 3 day or 5 day transfer?

Angela

[nicliz]

thx angela!! i started crying when i heard the message, it's so surreal to think i have 8 embies trying to grow right now. im doing a 5 day transfer on wednesday may 5th. beta is scheduled for may 14th (9 days post transfer). should i attempt HPTs or just wait for beta?

[angelaezra]

thx angela!! i started crying when i heard the message, it's so surreal to think i have 8 embies trying to grow right now. im doing a 5 day transfer on wednesday may 5th. beta is scheduled for may 14th (9 days post transfer). should i attempt HPTs or just wait for beta?

I am a little biased because I always have to know what is going on w/ me medically & I am nosey ... lol. No, really I had to prepare myself mentally so I originally tested to know when my Ovidrel trigger was out of my system and then I started testing 6pdt5dt because that is when HCG should start to be secreted.

It really is a personal decision whether to test or not to because some people don’t want the added stress of reading negative HPT’s before they get their positive but I think it helps the time pass quickly. But, we will be here for you cheering you on …


Angela

[lycase]

But Helene, why did they make you wait? I was at the same time period and had a DNC. And they gave me the pills to make sure my uterus contracted.

Tammy I'm praying for you.

Well the first reason is nobody knew the baby died at 8.5 weeks. It's only when I started cramping and spotting that at the u/s it confirmed that. I was already at 12w. So I was not waiting to mc I didn't even know my baby had died. ANd I guess my body neither. And then lost it after spotting that evening.

Helene

[lycase]

thx angela!! i started crying when i heard the message, it's so surreal to think i have 8 embies trying to grow right now. im doing a 5 day transfer on wednesday may 5th. beta is scheduled for may 14th (9 days post transfer). should i attempt HPTs or just wait for beta?

nicliz - wow 8 is amazing. I am sure everything will go just fine. Congrats.

Helene