OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

[karenvancouverisland]

hi all,
lynnie- i'm so sorry for what you're going through with the cvs results.. i don't quite understand what it all means- if you're into providing some explanation, i wouldn't mind knowing more, but if that's not helpful for you, it's ok. i get the bottom line though- it's not good.

kas, i hate that lady who was so rude to you! i hope she goes to some special place in hell for insensitive people. how are things going with your decision process?

pixelgirl- so great to hear from you! i'm glad you dropped in.

chris- how's everything with your cycle?

hi jdc, gina, babyhope, elida, and everyone else.

wonder- that cracks me up. 'what momma wants, momma gets' ... i'm going to tell my husband and hope it's contagious.

so i went maternity shopping today and felt like an IMPOSTER! i kept looking over my shoulder to see if someone was going to tell me i must be in the wrong store! this has been such a long time coming, that now that it's here, it's all so weird. my belly has popped, i announced my pregnancy on facebook, which will make it easier for me to do an announcement at work on monday. i chickened out again all week at work while wearing bulky sweaters.

love to all,karen

[to_have_fun08]

Hi Everyone,
Hope you all had a good weekend. I guess some of us are probably still on their weekend since today is a holiday.


Karen - Congrats on finally getting yourself out of the closet and letting people know you are PG. I really think things will be a little less stressful now that everyone knows. I don't see why you feel like an "IMPOSTER" your are defiantly PG. Just try and relax and enjoy that little baby growing inside of you.

Pixel - It was nice to hear from you. Glad things are going good with you. I know how you feel about living vicariously through all of the girls that are PG. I still cyber stalk a lot of the gals that I cycled with before.

Kas - I feel for you lady, I know this must be hard and a that ignorant nurse wasn't much help. Just know that we are all thinking about you and that you and your little babies are in our prayers.

Lynniecat - I was devastated when I read you news. Keeping my fingers crossed that everything turns out OK with your amino.

Ny4thtry - I miss you. I know you are keeping away from the boards a bit. Hope you are OK. Keep us posted on your next step.

Hi to Gina, Wonderance, babyhope and everyone else I missed.

I can't believe this board is still hanging on. I am so happy for all of you ladies that are PG. Glad to see that this works for some of us. I still have 1 more week in my 2ww. The only symptoms I have had is some cramping and sore boobs but that happens to me all the time before AF visits. I am going to try an hold out POAS till Friday or Saturday.


Chris

[Kas101]

Hey Ladies,

I am also glad this board is hanging on as i dont know where else i would even consider posting right now..... Seems like we are all in tough places right now, and thats part of this rollercoaster i guess...

I dont have much to post right now as we are still in limbo and as you can imagine its tough. We are leaning towards going for all 4, but reconsider all the time, so for now i am sitting back, reading all your posts and will keep checking in daily to see how you all are and will update as and when i have something to tell you!!!

NY - i miss you too!!!, To Have Fun - I am so hoping you get your BFP more than anything, Karen - I totally get you on the imposter feeling, i feel like i'm faking it! Lynnie - hope this turns out to be a false result - i read what the girls on the over 40 board wrote and sounds like this could all end well, i really hope so Pixel- love hearing from you

To everyone else, keep well and keep posting, XX Oh, and i just deleted my ticker, will update it when we know!!

[lynniecat]

Hi Karen-

So here is what most likely happened. The embryo was completely normal at first. Then at some point during a cell division as the little one was growing, the chromosomes appeared to do divide incorrectly. Some how a little piece was duplicated or created or something. Instead of that cell dying off, it survived and kept making more of itself and the little piece continued to get carried along (it was obviously replicating and passing copies of itself on to all the new cells derived from the original cells).

So its like a contaminant...the cells that came from that original cell that messed up have it and the other cells do not.


The real question is when did this happen? If it happen after the embryo divided into baby and placenta, that is great as its happened in placental cells and the baby is not affected. If it happened before the division, then its in the baby too. And it could be just in say the brain cells or the liver cells or the skin cells or all of them.

Since its a weird abnormal piece of chromosome, it will likely be making inappropriate genes at the wrong time. That can obviously cause bad things to happen such as structural problems or brain problems, etc.
So, now I sit and wait for more information.

I hope that explanation made sense!

[wonderce]

Lynnie, it sounds like you're very well informed which is great. Your explanation definitely helped me to better understand how chromosome issues can arise. Did you go ahead and schedule your amnio? I'm wishing the best for you and baby and hoping it's just in the placental cells as you mentioned.

Kas, good to hear from you. I'm sure this really has been a roller coaster for you. I often wonder why some women get pregnant so easy and sail right through with no problems, and others have to struggle with different obstacles. I think the past several years have made me stronger, so I guess I can at least say I gained something from all of these experiences. Keep us posted!

Chris, so you might do an HPT near the end of the week? I'm keeping all 10 of my fingers crossed for you! I want you to bring another IUI success story to this board.

Karen, so how did everyone at work react after hearing your news today? Maybe some of them saw your news on facebook and didn't make it too uncomfortable. I can also relate to your feeling of being an imposter. One of my co-workers brought in some of her maternity clothes for me last week, and another gave me a used bassinet, books, bath seat, etc. I appreciate their thoughtfulness, but I almost felt like it was going to jinx things for me. I even had a hard time with my husband starting on the nursery, but figured I need to get over my reservations and enjoy more. How is your nursery coming along?

Hi Pixel, Babyhope, Gina! NY, it looks like we are all missing you. Hope to hear from you soon!

[gina1234]

hey ladies sorry i havent been on in awhile i now will only get to be on after i get out of work because my computer @ work is having issues so i will send pm to u all soon...hope u are all doing well big hugs to u all & i posted a new pic of my belly chat with u soon

[karenvancouverisland]

hi everyone, thanks for the info lynnie, helpsme understand what you're dealing with... i can only imagine how hard this is....i'm thinking lots about you

kas, sounds like your'e not overstressing about this...i'd lean towards keeping all too.

chris= i'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you girl !! can't wait for your results.

wonder- yes it's weird to move through this and believe it's going to be ok. our nursery is at a standstill, as it's still our only guest room til our basement is finished, and my FIL is back working on the basement and sleeping in the soon-to-be nursery. i'm excited to finish it though. it's most comfortable for me to let my excitement out when i'm home or with close friends. i have a harder time with stuff like your coworker bringing you that stuff. that's when the 'imposter' feeling happens. so what's happening with your nursery?

so i announced in our team meeting this morning my pregnancy. glad to get it over with. it's funny though how i respond to questions like about names, birthing plans, length of maternity leave- as i've only allowed myself to think a bit about these things, nothing solid, as i guess i don't trust i'll get there.

BUT i think i felt the baby move saturday night- it was crazy! a light 'thump' right in my uterus, then 2 more in adjacent spots. it wasn't gas.

karen
gina- your belly pic looks great.

[Kas101]

Gina, Loved the pic!! Heres mine. I am scared by how big already, not quite 13 weeks yet

(took out big belly pic!!!!)

[to_have_fun08]

Love both your baby bumps, well maybe just a bit more then a bump

Kas - Of course you are a little big. Like your Dr said your uterus is the size of a 20 week singleton pregnancy. I think you are going to feel like you have several watermelons in your stomach by the time your done.


Chris

[Kas101]

To Have Fun - Yes, i know you are right....I think i might take the photo down in a few days when we have all had a look as i just hate how a) i have totally lost my tan, i dont even use fake tan as i'm scared of 'poisoning' the babies b) i have noticed big veins on my stomach i never saw before (maybe covered by a tan????) and c) i STILL have some feint bruises from the lovenox shots....

I have decided to stop moping for now and get on with it, whatever we decide.... I have wanted to be pg for so long and now i am all i'm doing is worrying and crying, so i am determined to try and enjoy this some !!!

Love to you all, i think about you ladies all the time and cant wait till we ALL have a baby (or more) in our arms

[karenvancouverisland]

wow kas, i love your belly .... mine is growing too- it's awesome, i'm finally really feeling and believing i'm pregnant .. it's nice to be here. i'm enjoying the excitement of my work friends too.

chris- when is your beta? or do you just POAS? i know you said you'd wait til fri or sat- but when does your RE say to do it? still keeping fingers and toes crossed for you.

so i had a very annoying night here at home. my FIL is here and it's driving me nuts. some moments getting the basement finished doesn't seem worth it. i just want to be in 'nest' mode and relax, but find some of his habits too annoying and it's work having a house guest. some i hid out in our bedroom tonight which upset my DH as he knows i'm avoiding his dad. yuck. this is not fun, and my tolerance level is dropping by the moment. so, in looking at the bright side- maybe i'll go to the gym more in the evenings and reconnect with some girlfriends, go for evening walks ect.

hi wonder, gina, lynnie, NY (hope you're still out there watching us), elida, and whoever else i forgot. much love to all, karen

[jandc33]

Hi Ladies-

Haven't been on in a long time but still checking back to see how everyone is doing and it seems great!!!

Lynnie-Wishing you luck on your amnio!!!

Karen, Wonder, Babyhope, Gina, and any other prego ladies that I forgot to mention-I am so thrilled for you all & I am glad to hear you are all progressing along nicely. Enjoy these 9 months-YOU DESERVE IT!

KAS-WOWSERS!!!! I had to pass that news along to my husband-so exciting, Im sure alot of stress involved but so many miracles have happened along this cycle for you that Im sure someone up there is looking out for you and what is meant to be will be.

As for me...So much drama was involved once we found out the beta was dropping because then it turned around and came up and down for the following 2 weeks. So the Dr's decided to give me the Methotrexate shot. About a week later I had pain shooting through my lower abdomen so a coupel of days later ended up back in the office with the blocked tube grossly enlarged with blood. (ER visit and all). To make a long story short, we've decided to move forth with removing the tube that is blocked (hydrosalpinx) because it increases future chances for IVF. I feel like its kind of a loss though-I guess that realization that we will never conceive naturally with no tubes. Has anyone else had the surgery for removal??? Mine is scheduled March 16. Otherwise, we are ready to move forward with IVF. We went for a 2nd opinion and I will likely switch clinics at this point. The Dr.s are optimistic that we were able to get pregnant but using donor eggs is always in the back of my mind based on the issues we have had by day 5 with our embryos. Fortunatley my sister has offered to donate her eggs to us. I guess we will see but I am eager to move forward at this point, although I still shed a tear here and there about our loss. I feel like in a way, if it was a miscarriage without fertility issues it may have been easier to handle because then you could just keep trying naturally, but unfortunatley that is not the situation.

I am glad to see you ladies are still posting and I really wish you the best of luck with everything!!!!!


PS-To Have Fun-FINGERS CROSSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a good feeling!

[Kas101]

JandC - So good to hear from you, i'm glad you came back to us!!!! I wanted to say thanks for the good wishes and let you know i also had hydrosalpinx and had my tubes removed last July. They wouldnt do IVF til i had them out as it greatly reduces the chances of success. I wont lie to you, it did floor me physically for a while, i found it harder to recover than i thought (although other ladies who have had this done say it was fine, so i guess its individual) and i also found it hard emotionally as i had just 'lost' my chances of ever conceiveing without IVF and it did affect me quite deeply for a while.

As far as eggs go, i had a bad IVF #1. I did an antagonist protocol and they kept increasing my meds as i struggled to get just 3 embryos for a 3 day transfer. they diagnosed me as a poor responder and a dimished ovarian reserve (although i had an FSH of 6.9) and after my BFN i was devastated. I changed clinics and my new RE thought my FSH was great, and that the last protocol just didnt suit me and i would be fine this time. I took DHEA (can increase egg number and quality) for nearly 3 months, some other meds, known to aid egg production (like magnesuim) and tried the flare protocol... well i couldnt believe i had all those follies on the ultrasound, and i made 9 eggs, had 8 great embryos and had 7 grade 1-2!! So i even have some in the deep freeze!! I'm just telling you all this because i want to show you that sometimes a fresh approach can give such different results...

If you want to know ANYTHING about the salpingectomy (removal of tubes) please ask .....

[lynniecat]

I love the belly bumps! SO cute.

Kas, that is one big bell! Has to be with 4 in there! Keep us posted as to what you do. If you keep em all, I will have you in my thoughts that they all do wonderfully well. And seriously, make sure you take it easy if that is the case!

It seems you and I both have a lot weighing on our minds these days!

JanDC -- thanks for the wishes on the amnio. I am sorry to here about your tube. Such and awful trauma, but if losing it means an IVF will have a better chance, then its what you had to do. I know "ending" something for good (like conceiving naturally) can be traumatic, but once you have your baby, you won't care anymore and I hope that is SOON.

Good luck on recovery and I hope you feel better and get passed the pain soon (both emotional and physical)!

Karen --Know what you mean about the FIL. My MIL and FIL are both coming on march 14th...right around when I will be getting my news on amnio. Great...I might want some privacy right then!

As for me, I just sit and wait...

[turtlesonastump]

Sorry for crashing but I cycled with many of you before. Want to say congrats to Karen, Kas and Lynnie. I am so happy for you guys. :D:D

Chris, I am crossing my fingers and toes for you. Not to much longer to wait. I really hope this is the time for you.

JandC - you were asking about others who had their tubes removed. I had my left tube removed a couple of years ago and the surgery was no problem. I lost my right tube last year after it ruptured from an ectopic and that was very traumatic because of losing the baby, losing my last tube and was just very painful. It took months to recover. So even though it is sad to lose the only natural way to have a baby, you don't want the risks of an ectopic if you have tubal problems. Hope this helps and good luck to you.

Veronica