OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

[to_have_fun08]

Turtles - Thanks for check up on all of us. How is everything going with you and your little baby. Is your little one a boy or a girl?


Karen - My official POAS date is Monday Feb 23.


I don't have any PMA and don't think it work. I know it is too early since I am only 10dpo but I have POAS and it is negative. I will still keep peeing till Monday. I used to have this calmness that this was going to work but now that is out the door.

Tomorrow is Friday. YEAH!!! This has been a really long week. We are taking my MIL to see the Smuckers on Ice show tomorrow so that should be fun and something new to do.

Thinking about all of you.


Chris

[babyhope1]

Chris, but didn't you mention that your bbs hurt? 10 days is early, but negative proves the HCG is out of your system, any positive after is a real one you know? They say its like 1 day for every 1,000 units so if your HCG shot was 10,000 (most are) then you may be between implantation and a BFP!! I will pray for you.

jandc33-I am so sorry to hear about your trials. It just makes me mad to hear people on television that are like, we decided to get prego and the next month we were...blah blah blah. I too had poor egg quality during IVF, 1A-, 1B and the others C. I didn't conceive. I tried one pill of DHEA daily for two weeks (pre ovulation) and apparently it helped me also. My doc said either I needed androgens or I needed none and they were trying both one month to the next. The first was trying them...Menapur has it and DHEA has it. I needed it! All my best with your surgery, it is a big deal.

[Kas101]

Lynnie I know you are still just waiting and i know it must be so hard.... I'm glad there is a strong posibility that this extra chromosome may have nothing at all to do with your little girl and i will be so hoping this is the case. Thinking about u

Turtles Great to hear from you!!! So pleased everything is going so well and i cant believe how far along you are... Has it really been that long since we cycled??? wow time flies!!! Hope you will keep us updated

To Have Fun Dont lose the pma... most clinics wont even test till 14dpo as its too early. My clinic doesnt test till 17dpo and thats still a week away!!! I know you are a POAS addict but dont let the negs get you down, just think, ok maybe tomorrow.....

Babyhope How are you feeling???? Are you getting any bigger yet??? pLease tell me i am not alone in the supersize club....

So ladies, i changed my ticker from all the little babies!!! Now it a little elephant (Me, he he )

[turtlesonastump]

Chris- I am having a little girl. We decided to name her Victoria Leigh. Everything is going well. I have done well and only gained 14 pounds. I really have to watch how much I gain because of my prosthetic. If I gain too much too quickly I won't be able to wear it. I have started using a cane because my balance is off. Try to keep your PMA even though I know how hard that is. Hopefully the show will keep your mind off it for awhile. I am jealous, they never have any good skating shows down here

Kas- It has been a long time. I can't believe I have less than 3 months to get ready. I haven't bought much of anything. I better get with it soon. At least a car seat. I was shocked when I read your news of going from 3 to 4. That is crazy that they missed the 4th. I am sorry it has been so rough for you and I hope you can really enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. Take care.

[to_have_fun08]

I don't think it is a good sign. Had some spotting last night. I know it could just be a little one snuggling in but I seriously doubt it. I didn't even POAS this morning because I am pretty sure it didn't work. So now I am ready to get my next cycle on the road. This time will be doing the flare. YEAH, lots of drugs to make my body go crazy and mind go crazy.


Hope everyone has a good weekend.



Chris

[wonderce]

Happy Friday! It's cold here today and we're supposed to go to an outside oyster roast tomorrow. I'm not sure how much fun that's going to be. Is everyone else staying warm?

Chris, I'm hoping your spotting was the implantation and you hold out at least until your test day Monday. It sounds like either way you have the next step in place so there won't be any questions. Hopefully you'll get a positive test though! Will you POAS again or wait for Monday? Enjoy the ice show, that sounds like fun.

Kas and Gina, I loved your bump photos. I've been wanting to take pictures each week but have been slack and only taken a couple of pics so far. I hope to start doing weekly once I hit the halfway point. Kas, I like your new ticker.

Karen, sorry your FIL is driving you nuts. Maybe you should try to get out more and enjoy some time away from the house with your friends like you said. I'm the worst one to give advice on this though. I am a self-claimed homebody and it seems to be getting worse as weeks go by. I don't know if the "nesting" instinct has set in yet, but I just enjoy my time at home I guess. Hopefully your basement will be finished soon and will look great, not to mention you'll have your quiet house back until baby arrives.

Jan, so good to hear from you! Sorry you've been having to deal with all of the up's and down's and now upcoming surgery. It sounds like some other girls have had similar surgeries though and I'm wishing you the best at a speedy recovery and fresh new cycle once you are healed. I hope you'll come back and keep us posted.

Lynnie, still thinking about you and hope you are doing okay. I know you said you'd be getting amnio results around mid-March, but can't remember when you actually have it done?

Hi Veronica, congrats on your baby girl!

Babyhope, how are you feeling? Have you gotten a bump yet? When is your next u/s?

[babyhope1]

Hummm, negatives so far, sore bbs and now spotting 11 DPO. The symptoms sound fishy Chris. The timing sounds right also...I will keep praying, someone is up there listening.

I am doing great ladies, thanks for asking. I had my first OB appt with my regular doc and almost cried my pee sample looked like (TMI warning) Gatoraide or Mountain Dew! BRIGHT put on your shades it can't be human! Then I realized several days later, it was due to the prenatal vits. Phew!

[lynniecat]

to_have_fun --

11 DPO is too early to get depressed. I will remind you I had spotting with my BFPs from 9-11 DPO and with this last one 13-19 DPO! I have to say, you gotta ignore the spotting.

First time, mine was pink with red flecks, second time it was brown and had lots of little clots! So, you just can not go by that. Spotting could be good, bad or not matter at all!

Also, I am a testing fool. Love the tests, and will do many a day of different brands! So, first BFP came at 12 DPO. I was so down on with the BFNs and although I had symptoms, I was very bummed out!


Second BFP came at 13 DPO. I was sure I was not pg as I had not one single sign and I always have had signs before. Thus, I KNEW in my heart of hearts it did not work. I just knew. I told DH it did not work and I was sure. Well I was WRONG! I like to tell people this since its so grueling to have PMA after that BFN. I almost stopped testing too.

I like to believe it was just that my beta was only 34 at 14 DPO and so that is why I has no symptoms...maybe or maybe every pg is different. My morning sickness is so mild compared to last time, which rocks. So I was convinced it was a boy! ALSO WRONG! Anyway, goes to show that even though we are sure we know, we don't!

So hang in there, I am sending vibes your way!





So here is my update --

I have been aggravated with my ob practice since I called to ask for a scan after I found out about my CVS result. I was told when I called that I could not have one till I was 18 weeks pregnant. I talked to second nurse (she called me yesterday). This nurse was totally apologetic and could not believe the first nurse I talked to the week before did not immediately bring me in for a U/S scan! She was shocked! In fact she was calling me cause she was reviewing my chart and saw the first's nurse's note about my phone call (apparently it was very unclear). Anyway, I hope that first lady gets talked to about her comment "its not our standard of care to bring you in for an earlier ultrasound". I told the second nurse who called me that she had said this to me and this nurse said "the standard of care changes with an abnormal CVS result". She offered to set me up with an ultrasound on Monday, but I said no as I was going out for the amnio on Thursday. I fly to MD in order to use the same lab and doctor who did my CVS. A little complicated since I live in CA, but I moved here after I had already scheduled the CVS in MD (long story).
Anyway, I did have my OB appt today. We heard the heartbeat on the doppler and it sounded great.

I also talked to the genetic counselor finally ( I called her for the 4th time and she finally answered her phone). She was sorry for not getting back to me early ( I left three messages), but said she was covering another person. I do think someone quit, but seriously, they need to get someone else in quickly. Waiting on call backs is awful after getting an abnormal result.

She told me that DH does not have the chromsome marker, but my results were not in yet, so I still do not know if its in me, but as I said, its highly unlikely since this piece of chromosome is huge.

I also found out it has banding, ie its got DNA on it that will produce gene products. There was a hope it was just "filler DNA" and would not do anything and most likely be harmless if its in the baby, but alas that is not the case. She does believe that considering the size and the banding, that it will be very harmful to the baby. So we need it to NOT be in the baby. They are still trying to identify which chromosomes this piece came from....its likely more than one and involves some rearrangements of chromosome pieces. The worse part is unless they can completely identify it and even if they can, we will not know how or when it will express itself. IE, how bad will it be and when will it hit the baby. I worry about the baby being in pain and suffering, though I hope given a normal heart rate right now, she is not currently feeling any pain. Sounds kind of weird, I know, but I hope that if she does have this abnormal maker chromosome, that she does not suffer. I can only imagine how hard it is to watch your child in pain!

On the up side, I think I can feel her moving, a bit of a flutter now and again! I hope she is trying to tell me she is fine and that all this stress will be for nothing!

Anway, tick tock tick tock as I wait!

[to_have_fun08]

Lynnie - I am praying that your little one is OK. I would also shoot that stupid nurse for not listening or caring enough about your situation.

Thanks so much for the words of encouragement. I keep telling myself that tons of ladies have had spotting and gotten and BFP and it is still early. It doesn't help that i have never seen 2 lines on an HPT and it seems like deja vu because I go through the same things every month. Each month that I have TTC for the past 4 years, I will start to spot and tell myself that that is normal. Then I will take and HPT and it will be a BFn and I will tell myself it is too early. I never actually get it in my brain that I am not PG until AF is fully here. I tested again today 11 dpo and it is still a BFN. I still have a slight glimmer of hope.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Karen- when will your basement be done so your FIL will be out and you can have your space back?

Kas - I love your little elephant.


Chris

[Kas101]

Lynnie I dont know why people who are not at all compassionate or caring chose a career in the medical field at all...let alone one where sensitivity and compassion are really needed... it never ceases to amaze how many rude/ignorant or couldn't-care-less so called 'care-givers' there are in the IF/OB world... Goes without saying nurse one gets the B**** of the week award this week!

I know waiting must be so hard and i cant imagine what hoops your mind must be jumping through right now, and we all hope your little one is going to be just fine... So glad you got to hear a good strong heartbeat - what a great indicator that all is well, and sounds like she is starting to make her presence felt as well

Chris I too had spotting (brown) was it day 11 or 12??? i dont remember exactly but i do remember posting saying that i thought it was the start of AF, not implantation bleeding and everyone wrote back telling me it could well be implantation, as as we know it was.... Please keep the hope alive, how many times have we seen ladies say its all over they just know it didnt work, and then, lo and behold, its a BFP

Babyhope, Wonderce Glad you ladies are both doing so well, baby, you made me laugh about the flourescent pee!!

As for me, nothing much, i am stressing about the move, i am trying to take it easy.... My OB said at 20 weeks my uterus should be the size of a full term singleton . I will be nearly 18 weeks when i move so should be fun!!!! ALso, Lynnie i know i am only 13 weeks but i SWEAR i can feel movement, like fish swimming and turning round (wierd decription i know) I also bent down yesterday and felt a 'thump' inside??? Isnt it too early??

[karenvancouverisland]

hi all,

kas, i've been feeling the thumps since last week, they're getting stronger now, although i'm ahead of you- i believe it's your babies- crazy hey, my dh felt them last night too, he couldn't believe it. with multiples, it just seems like milestones happen earlier for you. i'm so excited about you having multiples...have you made your final decision yet on how many?

lynnie, well i'm encouraged by your update...i'm desperately hoping that everything willl be fine for you...i think it's entirely possible. that nurse is a total hag and i want to hang people like that for making things so much more difficult than they need to be.

chris..you're almost there! i had so few symptoms early on, other than fatigue (which could be chalked up to stress), my bbs are still rarely sore and have only enlarged slightly! if my belly wasn't starting to protrude- i'd think i'd lost the baby, as i have few other signs. so please dont' lose hope and know that you have an amazing cheering squad with all of us

babyhope- i have the neon pee sometimes too! and here's the crazy part- i wasn't even questioning why.. glad to hear you're doing so well.

wonder, have fun with your oyster roast..the weather's been beautiful here- which on vancouver island in february means sunshine, frosty mornings, and tulips just starting to emerge..we're lucky when the temperature gets up to 47-50 F.

hi turtles, i love your baby girl name, it's beautfiul...and i like your ticker too congratulations

and jan, it's so nice to have you back. i hope your stick around. i'm excited for your next cycle.

so progress in our basement is slow but sure, my dh just started a new job and is only able to help his dad on weekends and some evenings. i'm dying for it to be done, but it's 1100 SF, and lots to do. i'm in total nesting mode and just want to set up the baby room, but can't as it's our only guest room. i think it'll be another month while he's here...then we can take over and do paint, trim and laminate flooring on our own. the 2 bedrooms are drywalled, but still need sanding ect.

i'm trying to be tolerant and patient, but its hard. i will get out of the house more because of it and look on the bright side. i'm so excited about my u/s that's in about 10 days!!! and it's nice to more excited than anxious these days. karen

[Kas101]

Chris I know today is official POAS day... Will be thinking about you and visualizing two pink lines for you

[to_have_fun08]

Kas - Nope, no 2 pink lines. Just called the RE to see what the next step will be. I know that I will be doing the flare protocol. AF is officially here so I am hoping that I might get to start ASAP. Will keep ya posted.


Chris

[Kas101]

chris sorry no BFP but glad that you are already starting your next cycle. The flare was the protocol that worked for me so obviously i love that protocol!!!

[karenvancouverisland]

hi guys,, chris i'm so sorry it didn't work this time.. i hope your next step with the flare will be what does it. the flare has worked 2x for me now (despite m/c the first time- i still got pg).

so i'm very sad and quite affected by news on another thread, a lady that i was on the sept thread with (even though i postponed starting in sept), just lost her baby at 20 weeks. i just feel shocked and so sad for her. and frankly, scared for me.

i guess we make it so far and can feel as reassured as possible. but then anything can happen and life is always tenuous. i wish i could make it better for her and all of us.

on a happier note, my belly is getting quite large! it kinda freaked me out today. i had my 'first' experience of being questioned about being pregnant based on how my belly looks. i could tell she was kinda nervous that maybe i was just getting chubby, but she asked anyways. it delighted me ..

hope everyone out there is doing well. karen