JAN/FEB/MAR 2009 Ladies!!! :arrow:

[Sisi1]

Hi all,

This tread is now officially my candy (as I am dutyfully obstaining from it on the advise of my AP). Speaking of whom said my tounge is looking a lot better (less swelling/stress on my digestive system/ internal organs) (who knew I could stress out my organs?). She is making me feel good about myself and it's working! I have even started looking at baby stuff again.....

So the lupron side effect settled right down again, I am still a bit bloated but nothing else. I have B/U on Monday and then its just the wait for AF before staring the stimming party I just can't wait....

Superfertility hugs to y'all!

[JennLB25]

I also wanted to add Fish Oil to my suppliments... what do you think about that?

Lady_J
This is what I found about using fish oil.....

Omega-3 and Pregnancy
Pregnant women are often told to take fish oil capsules but must be careful to get the best quality, instead of cheap, generic stuff. The cheap fish oil may come from fish with contamination and may not be free of pollutants. Women should be careful about the types of fish and fish oil they consume when they are pregnant, nursing, or even when experiencing pregnancy symptoms.

Flaxseed oil does have omega-3 in it and is preferred by some people however some doctors say flaxseed oil should not be taken by pregnant women.

The reason is that flax seed, like soy or even more so, seems to have an effect on estrogen and hormones and might interfere with your body during pregnancy. Ask your doctor.

One study on this was: Brooks JD, Ward WE, Lewis JE, et al. Supplementation with flaxseed alters estrogen metabolism in postmenopausal women to a greater extent than does supplementation with an equal amount of soy. Am J Clin Nutr 2004;Feb, 79(2):318-325.
Also, flaxseed oil does not have as high an amount of DHA as fish oil, so fish oil is just better anyway at giving you the DHA you want.

Meanwhile, fish oil has been found in some studies to greatly support pregnancy and healthy baby development, and may even help prevent miscarriage. This is very, very important.

One such study was: Rossi E, Costa M., Fish oil derivatives as a prophylaxis of recurrent miscarriage associated with antiphospholipid antibodies (APL): a pilot study. Lupus 1993;2:319-23.

Conclusion: Pregnant women should talk to their doctors about avoiding flaxseed oil and also taking the most pure fish oil pills on the market.
Our most highly recommended and trusted brand, that we found after evaluating dozens of different kinds, is explained at the end of this article. Nothing else even comes close to its quality. And it is higher in beneficial nutrients so you get more for your money too.

If you want the best fish oil you should buy single-source fish oil, such as hoki fish oil capsules. And you should look for a pharmaceutical grade product that comes from healthy fish caught in pristine clean waters, then is quickly processed for purity and packaged under strict pharmaceutical conditions.

What you do not want is some cheap oil from a motley collection of "mystery fish" caught in the polluted waters of some industrialized area, that has sat in unrefrigerated tanker ships and trucks while it traveled some long distances in the heat, then was packaged in less than pharmaceutical conditions. Can you say "Burp?" Don't go near that stuff.
Our personal favorite fish oil capsules are made by X-tend Life Natural Products in New Zealand. They are fanatical about the purity of their fish oil, and they exert control over the entire process from the moment the fish is caught until the pure oil is bottled and packaged.

If you want all the benefits of omega-3 fish oil without the worries... get this pure fish oil.



I don't know anything about this company and the quality of its fish oil and can't guarantee a good product, but thought I'd share this with you from this site: womens-health-questions.com/omega-3.html

I hope all of this info helps.

I'm a little nervous to start fish oil without talking to RE or OB/GYN. I think you should do the same.

[robin611]

Hi guys,

Sorry I've been MIA for a bit. Hope everyone had a Happy New Year! Anyway, just wanted to keep you in the loop. So, my HCG went down to 45 last week and 11.2 this week - still not under 5 yet but close. We are meeting with the RE next week to begin next cycle but in the meantime he called me today with the results of the D&C.

It turns out that there was an extra chromosome (22) which was the reason for the m/c but we are hopeful that it was an unusual occurrence. Also, I found out that our little bean was a girl - I had a feeling. Still so sad.

I lost it on New Year's Eve. We were out to dinner with friends when they announced that they were pregnant. I knew that they had been trying for a while but it didn't make it any easier. I went to the bathroom and just cried. I knew I should be happy for them but I was having a really difficult time with that. I found out later that evening that she had miscarried before this one also but she is also due about the time that I would have been due and it was just too much to take. Am I awful? Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Thanks,
Robin

[JennLB25]

Robin611

I'm so sorry for your loss. I haven't experienced the same thing, but wanted to say I'm sorry and to say good luck on your next cycle. I can't believe you're trying again. You are a very brave and strong woman.

God Bless.

Baby dust being sent your way.

[prayin4BFP]

Robin...I am sorry about the m/c. I can understand why you were so upset on New Years. I cant say I have had a similar experience although during Christmas it was hard for me to see babies and baby stuff. I was shopping fro DH neice and there was these tshirts that were so soft and I just stood there holding them and tearing up. It was hard.

as for me only 6 more bcps...woo hoo!! It seems like forever. I havent had any cramping for 2 days now and I guess I am going to attribute it too working out too much. I have been trying to exercise as much as I can before stimming again when I wont be able to do anything...well maybe just walking on the treadmill. I didnt do any exercise last cycle but I thought I could catch up between cycles especially since I have been eating my disappointment since my last ER and cancelled ET.

I am not sure who asked about Bravelle but I was on Menapur and Bravelle last time and will be again as my protocol will not be changing. Although I was a little bloated I still fit into my jeans. I didnt have any cramping or discomfort until after ER and thats when i looked like I swollowed a basketball!
The pineapple thing is interesting but I am not sure if I will try it. Folic acid...I am on prenatals with an additional DHEA capsule. I am not taking any additional folic acid.

i am off...just put some banana bread in the oven...mmmmmm! We are having a snow and ice storm tonight (it already started snowing) and I am getting snuggled down with my comfy clothes and my knitting!

[kcraven]

Well gals I got sick this morning (throwing up). I took my first birth control pill and antibiotic last night. I talked to my nurse to see if it could have been that. Unfortuanately there is a bug going around the office as well. Not sure what has caused it. I'm feeling much better now but just feel week. I was told to still take the bcp tonight but to not take the anitbiotic until I was feeling better. : ( Has this happened to anyone else??

[Lady_J]

Hello again ladies...

kcraven... sorry that u r not feeling well. I was fine while I was taking BCPs... I did have an allergy-cold last cycle that wouldn't go away. I got around the time that I started Lupron and it didn't go away until after I got my BFN According to my RE, our immune system sort of shuts down while we r on all these meds so that may be the reason why I was so sick. And I wonder sometimes if that was part of the reason why my embies didnt stick... cuz I was always sneezing and coughing, I may have forced my embies out at one point. But I will never know. As for the antibiotics... why do they have u on antibiotics now? The only time I was told to do antibiotics was during ER. I had started them the night before for about a week.

prayin4BFP... I understand your sadness & disappointment. I did the same and ate my sadness away after test. It is very hard having to deal with other women's pregnancies. My DH, has a big family... he is the oldest of 6. And for 15 years that I have been with him and have only been able to have 1 child... I always felt worthless to him cuz I know he loves children and if we could we would have had at least 10 by now... but he never held it against me and that is one of the many reasons I love him. I get completely jealous when his other siblings end up pg with no problem when they want... let's see, his oldest sister is 31 and has 6 of her own, 2nd eldest has 2, 3rd sis has 1 NB, one bro in jail so no kids yet, and his last brother who is 21 has 2 and one on the way. So now it's us who have been married the longest and only 1 DD. For 15 years I have gone thru nothing but dissaointments, but now it shall be my time... sorry, I'm just ranting.

Robin611... I am glad that u r remaining strong even though it is so hard for what u r going thru words can not express. But our turn will come, you'll see.

JennLB25... Thanks for the research. I guess fishoil is out of the question for me. I dont want to take any chances. Thanks again.

Sisi1... So you r addicted to this tread huh? I am too!! Well, then it is almost time for your stims... around when is your AF due?

to_have_fun... About the pineapple thingy, I guess the IVF is just a chance thing then.

I cant wait to start BCPs already... so that at least I can start Lupron right after. This waiting for my AF is driving me crazy now. I hope it doesnt play the game on me where I end up being like 1 week late and then I end up having to take a PG test again and then BFN. Aaaaarrrr I usually get naseaus right before AF. I havent had nausea but I did notice I had some creamy CM today and yesterday and the day before, so I guess AF should follow. Sorry, tmi. At least I have my RE appointment in 3 days now. So the clock is ticking now in my head... tick tock tick tock.

[espinozal23]

Good Evening Ladies

Well I have taking my last shot of Lupron and Bravelle tonight and the very last shot will be my trigger shot tomorrow at 10 p.m. and I have to be at clinic at 8:30 Friday morning

I guess that its my ovaries that are so swollen because I feel like I am about 6 months pregnant I am so swollen and I know TMI but its like I cant get enough of my husband Is that normal he says that i am killing him

Anyone with any info please give it to me

Also I talked to nurse today at clinic and I ask her the size of my follicles and she said that on Monday they measured anywhere from 11mm to 13mm is that a good thing? Someone please let me know

[kcraven]

Lady J: I'm not exactly sure why they have me on antibiotics. They put my dh on them as well. According to their check list this is what they put everyone through. I'm hoping my sickness was just a bug. I am feeling much better now.

[espinozal23]

Hey Ladies

I have been reading up on the whole insurance deal with IVF and I need some help if anyone out there knows anything about it My insurance states that they have no coverage for IVF but if I was reading correctly just a few minutes ago it is based on where your companies home headquarters is and if that state has a mandate law I currently live in Kentucky but the company that I work for headquarters is in Dallas Texas and I am just wondering if I should start to persue the HR department at my work abou this to see if they should really be covering some if not all of this seeing as how we are paying out of pocket for everything IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW

[CT_Michele]

espinozal- I think it is if the insurance company is based in a state that mandates coverage, not the employer...but still definitely worth looking into.

[waiting for 4]

Hi girls... its been a while since I posted- I was in Arizona watching my horns beat the buckeyes Anyways, just wanted to catch up...

I take my last BCP on Thursday and will hopefully start stims a week from Sat. I do get to go to New York this Sat for 4 nights. It is my 2nd anniversary with DH and we are so excited to be able to take such an awesome trip- neither of us have been before.

Robin- my SIL is pregnant w/o even wanting to be and I can't bring myself to talk to her. We're not even close in the first place but ever since I lost my baby 3 weeks ago, I haven't even been able to think about her without getting so mad it makes me sick. Our situation is a funny one... I don't think we would ever wish harm or bad situations on others but hearing about any of them definitely makes living through this crap harder. My cousin had his first daughter 3 days after my m/c and it was HARD on me. Horrible really, but I took comfort in knowing that they now had this beautiful little girl after losing their first daughter at 25 weeks. Our day will come, I promise.

[TKat]

espinozal23 – I too have been feeling very full and crampy. It sounds like you haven’t had an ultrasound since Monday unless I’m missing something. They must know what they’re doing if they haven’t had you back in there. My ER is on Friday morning too. I had another ultrasound this morning and on my right ovary I had 7 follicles ranging in size from 15mm to 20mm and 6 less than 12mm….on the left ovary I had 9 follicles ranging from 14mm to 25mm and only a couple less than 12mm. They said I’m ready to go so I take my trigger shot tonight. I have to go in tomorrow morning for more blood work and another ultrasound. They like to do one last check before the day of the ER. On Monday my follicles were about the same size as yours were (around 11mm to 14mm) so I imagine you’re on the right track. I’m excited that we’re having our ERs on the same day! I don’t know if my ET will be on Monday or Wednesday. It all depends on how they grow. If there are several good ones to choose from on day 3 then they hold out to day 5 to see which ones make it to the blast stage. Last time they told us to plan for a day 5 ET because we had so many eggs removed and fertilized, however, it ended up being a day 3 ET because they already knew which ones were the best on that day.

Robin – I’m very sorry to hear about your miscarriage. That had to be a very hard thing to go through. Its great that you are trying again! I never had a miscarriage but I still have a rough time hearing about people getting pregnant. Life just doesn’t seem fair at times. We will get our BFPs soon though!!

Lady_J – Interesting information about how the meds lower our immune systems. My RE puts me on a steroid after the RE to help boost my immune system. Apparently its supposed to help with implantation. Although it didn’t seem to work last cycle. Does your RE put you on steroids as well?

Hope everyone has a great day!

TKat

[to_have_fun08]

espinozal23 - I have heard that sometimes when a company is headquarterd in one state and you are employed in another, that the company will go by the state mandate that it is currently located. Though I think it is up to the if it wants to offer this coverage. I don't know if Texas has mandatory coverage. For some reason I believe I have heard that they don't.


kcraven - My RE also puts DH and I on antibiotics. They want to kill off anything that might reduce the odds of fertilization or implantation. I hate the antibiotics. They make me feel like crap.

Lady_J - Is AF here yet? I thought mine was here on Sat, I had a lot of spotting but wasn't really heavy. Well it pretty much stopped Sun and Mon. Really weird but thought I was done. Nope, she came full force yesterday. I started taking BCP's again on Monday so I hope it doesn't screw anything up. I think for my protocol I can start BCP's anywhere between days 1 thru 5. So technically if they want to say Tuesday was day 1, I started taking BCP's 1 day early. O'well, I am not going to worry about it.


Robin - I would have lost it to on New Years if that news was given to me. Heck I can't even walk through the baby department at any store without wanting to cry. That must have been hard. Keep your chin up, you got PG once so that is a plus. This time your little one won't have an extra chromosome and will stick for all 9 months.

waiting for 4 - Happy belated 2nd Anniversary. Glad you got to leave town and enjoy yourselves. I can't believe you will already be stimming next week. So are they changing your protocol at all this time?

prayin4BFP - How was your banana bread? That sounds so yummy. It has been awhile since I have made some, maybe I will put that on my list to do next weekend.


Chris

[Lady_J]

Hi Ladies... Happy Hump Day .... Sorry no earlier response. I am so busy at work trying to get some records out that are overdue. Yikes!!! Oh well. So I have today and tomorrow cuz I am off on Friday so I can go see my RE. Yipee!!! Time for my personals...

Chris... Nope, no sign of AF yet. No spotting, no cramping, no nothing. Maybe tonight I will start spotting... as of today I am on CD31. I am not to concerned yet since my AF ranges, but since taking Metformin, my AF has been regularized to 30 days. But same as last time, my AF is playing tricks on me again, driving me up the wall. Hopefully I will get it by Friday if not then I guess U have to wait for it. As for your AF... hmmmmmm I wonder what happened. I don’t think it would matter if u were already taking BCPs for a month prior, so basically u r just following the pill schedule? Check with the RE too jic.

Tkat... As for steriods... No, my RE didn’t put me on them. Hmmmm to that as well. As for your ER... yipee, hun u r finally there. AT least you can be on the same ride as Espinozal23. How exciting. I wish u so much luck tonight with your trigger shot... make sure u get the correct amount of juice in there so all your eggies can mature in time for ER & I wish u so much Luck on Friday with your ER. My thoughts & prayers will be with you that day. So, have u decided how many embryos u will be putting back, depending?

Waitinfor4... So how was it in AZ? Bet the weather was beautiful compared to Chicago (where I am at). And now NY... oooh u r such a lucky girl. I wish I can go somewhere, but no, I’m stuck here. Lol..j/k. Well congrats on your Anniv. And stims for you is just around the corner.

Espinozal23... Hey girly. I also wish u so much luck tonight & Friday for your ER. Hope u make a lot of eggies as well. My thoughts & prayers are going to be with u. As for the Insurance... I don’t know how it all works. Every state mandates... for example, my insurance covers procedures until I have a successful live PG. I only have to pay co-pays and freezing. For all my meds from the first cycle, which included metformin and Prenatal Vitamins... I only paid $126 out of my pocket. Freezing his sperm was $123 for 3 months and a counseling session I had to go to which was $100 for 1 hour. I think other states will only cover 1 cycle and some will cover none. But I would check with my HR dept or even your RE office may be able to check for you if they are not to lazy. Good Luck. As for you poor poor DH... tell him he better take what he can cuz he is going to be out of luck for a few weeks from this point on. LOL. I am the same way... Since day 1 my DH & I are good in that Dept. I can never get too much of him. I guess u can say it is normal, especially with the stims... I guess it is stimming more than just your ovaraies. LOL. Have Fun!!

kcraven.. I am glad u r feeling better now. The sickness may also have been from the meds or antibiotics, especially if u stopped them and now u r feeling better. U may want to check it out.

Well ladies, I am off to lunch. I made BBQ ribs tips with mash potato and corn last night and brought leftovers for lunch.. Yummy. I be back later.