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good for you suga! Kholtan gave you EXCELLENT advice....I bet by the end of the weekend, your girls will be doing much better!

Kholtan--I hear ya....I always feel like I NEED everything....RIGHT NOW! :lol: I wish we all lived closer. We could have some awesome playdates for sure! It's beautiful here today too. The kids got to play outside at daycare. When they wake from their nap, we're headed to the park....and then we'll take the dog for a nice stroll....I jogged with him today, and I thought the dog was going to DIE....he needs to get in better shape! :wink:
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buckeye: I have to laugh because I can just picture me dying if I ran with you panting! haha!

Well ladies, Mackenzie never woke up! I do not know if it is a fluke or she got the hint! Brooke still woke up at like 4 or 5AM and cried for 2 minutes then back to sleep! She woke up off and on after that but nothing to where I could not sleep through it! So tonight I will do the same...no attention! Hopefully Brooke will get the hint here soon! Brooke REALLY needs the 10 PM feed but here soon Kenzie will not. She is hard to wake her up to eat it!

Anyways, I can hear Brooke pooping in her crib (I just laid them down for a nap) I better go clean her before she falls asleep!
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Machelle...HIP HIP HOORAY!!!! It is only up from here!!! I know you must be so relieved.

We had our two month checkup and shots yesterday, Paxton weighed 11lbs4oz, and Kellen 9lbs12oz...they are huge. I asked the pedi about them sleeping through the night. He said because of their size and the fact they are up to 6 oz per feeding, to try and let them sleep through the night. So, we tried last night...and they made it!!! Paxton cried between 4:17-4:39, and Kellen cried 5:39-5:59. But they did it, and were starving this morning! Did I let them cry too long?? I feel so mean, BUT not that mean;-)!!!! I think I got less sleep than usual because I was cheering them on from my bedroom, counting the minutes!!

He also said that he likes to have them sleeping two big naps a day by 4 mths. Is that were you guys were at 4 mths? And did you let them direct when they wanted to drop a nap or did you force the issue? 4 mth seems so soon!!! Back to the Babywise book I go...
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Suga--GREAT JOB! Sounds like things are going very well....and you made me laugh about the panting part! :lol: My dog has boundless energy when he's with other dogs, but when he jogs with me....whole other story! LOL.

Courtney--Great check up! They are getting big. And, WOW! Great night for you too last night! I don't remember exactly when we dropped our 3rd nap, but I think it was around or before 6 months? I don't think I forced it...it sort of naturally started to become apparent.

We have a playdate today! Back to cleaning for me. :wink:
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Courtney: I wrote on your blog that I am jealous! haha! Congrats on sleeping through!! Do you still do the "dream feed" or no? I am contemplating drooping that as well. Brooke is still at only 5 oz a feed though so she may not be ready. Also, mine still take 3 naps a day. A very short morning nap and 2, 2 hour naps in the afternoon. So mine are 6 months and still at 3 but they are almost ready to drop that morning one, not yet though. I say if they are still needing that other nap let them have it. Esp. if they are sleeping through the night.
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Machelle- Yes, I do a 10 pm feeding. And will not drop that for a while, I dont want to mess anything up right now!!! ANd i posted on your blog not to forget the boys were born at 38 weeks, dont have reflux like your girls, and mine are chubbies that eat 6oz, 7 times a day!! So hopefully they can stand to drop back to 6 feedings moving forward. And by the looks of Paxton's fat rolls...he can drop a feeding!!! J/K!!!
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6 oz 7 times a day! wow! lol. CHUNKERS! haha, jk! Ours are down to 5 bottles a day now. Now they eat 6 oz at a feed, finally! I am so happy their reflux is so much better! I mean it is there, but something finally snapped and they can eat more! I agree, I will not drop our 10PM feed until I know for sure they are settled with sleeping through from then on out.
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Twinmommy and Courtney -- congratulations on sleeping through the night! That is wonderful! Sounds like your little ones have adopted very well to the new schedule.

As for me, Alyson's still fighting sleep in the afternoon and I have been keeping her up lately instead of letting her cry. Tried soothing her and everything but it's just not happening. She's not cranky or anything and she does not act tired so I am just going with the flow.

Since, Alyson's up all the time I don't have much time to post but I am keeping up with the posts and will be checking in!

Take care!
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tolbee: Well, if she is not tired or cranky then you are right, go with the flow! No sense fighting it. Maybe you can give her "quiet time" alone in her room to play, read a book, etc. So you can get some things done?

Ok ladies I need your help! I do not know if I am PMSing or hormones or what. But my husband is annoying me, more than usual, lately. He is tired and cranky because of work and school and not napping this week and I think that just blew me over the edge. Next week he is taking naps again! I am making him! lol. But I just do not feel connected to him any more as I did before? I mean, I still love him and such but something is different? I do not know how to put this into words. I mean he is my rock and I would never want to leave him or anything like that but I just feel distant now. I do not know if it is because we get no time together or what. Have/did you ever feel this when your twins were younger? Or ever really. I think it is also because there is no effort on either of our part. He is not romantic any more...the girls are so needy...there is no time in the day...etc. I know we need to spend more quality time together but with no money we can not go out. I mean we watch movies on the weekend but we do not even eat dinner together because he is in bed. From 7PM till I go to bed I am alone. Which may not be the best thing because it gets me to thinking!

Anyways, time to clean up from our days activities!
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Suga~ First of all. . . GREAT NIGHT!!! You will be sailing through loads of sleep in no time! On the man issue. . . . Everyone has their own opinion about his sort of thing and I can understand all sides but I am a marriage first, kids second gal. (Let religion fit in where your own family decides.) Even throughout IVF, it was so important that Dh was still feeling just as desired as any children would be and after they finally came home that standard is our rule. Not every day is perfect and there are days when he is on the auction block but my relationship with him is first and foremost here. So when we have an issue, the kids aren't cast aside by any means but they may miss an activity so we can talk or just spend more time together. You and dh have a busy job. . . BUT I would suggest anything that allows the two of you to reconnect again. Even walks with the girls in the stroller will keep them at bay and busy while you two can talk and it's free!
Having said all of that. . . :? I can also tell you that once your children are better sleepers things get better as well. People always ask us why we never get sitters and go out and it's seriously because from 7pm on every night we can do ANYTHING we want together and we love that time together. Also, we know they aren't getting up until 7 am so if we get up a bit early we know about how much time we have to wake up just the two of us. This may bring one to the dreaded topic of. . . duh, duh, duh. . . INTIMACY! :shock: All I will say is that I have to always remind myself that it makes him feel fabulous about himself if I initiate the "Whoopy" scenes every now and then. I don't feel sexy or smokin' hot at 5 months pg BUT if doesn't entirely matter if he still has wants and needs that I can meet.
I'm no shrink (and I don't mean to sound like it) but I have great sympathy for what all of us women, mothers (of twins), and committed partners go through every now and then. It sounds like you have a fabulous man and the two of you just need to put your relationship on the front burner for a while and steam things back up emotionally, physically, and reconnect. Try different things and don't stop talking to one another about it until you BOTH feel a reconnect. HUGS and I hope my novel helps even a tiny bit!

Kimi~ I hope Alyson figures out a little nap for herself somewhere. If not for her, for you! What can you do though? I haven't had anyone I know have this issue so early. Good luck! Still, nap or no nap, she sure is sweet!

Coutney~ Sleeping through! WHOOHOO! I forgot you made it to 38 weeks. Still impressive when I hear it! The new pics are adorable and they have great weights as well. As for naps and my kids, we were at three nice naps a day until our first B-day. Then we went to two and now we waiver between one or two. Today they needed two after a busy afternoon but yesterday it was only one. Before a year my kids couldn't go more than 3 hours awake w/o a nap. Naps were always 1 hour and the afternoon one was often 1-2. That was us but all babies seem so different for sure. Good luck and I hope it's another sleepy night for the boys!

Kim~ you dog sounds like me! :shock: :lol: If I ran a few miles I would surely end up in the same state! I wish I was more into the "E" word but I simply hate it. Love all sports but the thought of running. . . :roll: Although I would love the legs!

My cousin had her baby last night. . . after 30 hours of labor she delivered him NATURALLY! no drugs at all and being a Dr. and all I would have thought she would know how to get a hold of some good ones! :wink: Westin is him name. . .love new family members!
Other than that I am super tired today. I keep thinking I will only read for an hour and the next thing I know. . . time escapes me. So, I'm off to bed to read for an hour. . .
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Suga~ First of all. . . GREAT NIGHT!!! You will be sailing through loads of sleep in no time! On the man issue. . . . Everyone has their own opinion about his sort of thing and I can understand all sides but I am a marriage first, kids second gal. (Let religion fit in where your own family decides.) Even throughout IVF, it was so important that Dh was still feeling just as desired as any children would be and after they finally came home that standard is our rule. Not every day is perfect and there are days when he is on the auction block but my relationship with him is first and foremost here. So when we have an issue, the kids aren't cast aside by any means but they may miss an activity so we can talk or just spend more time together. You and dh have a busy job. . . BUT I would suggest anything that allows the two of you to reconnect again. Even walks with the girls in the stroller will keep them at bay and busy while you two can talk and it's free!
Having said all of that. . . :? I can also tell you that once your children are better sleepers things get better as well. People always ask us why we never get sitters and go out and it's seriously because from 7pm on every night we can do ANYTHING we want together and we love that time together. Also, we know they aren't getting up until 7 am so if we get up a bit early we know about how much time we have to wake up just the two of us. This may bring one to the dreaded topic of. . . duh, duh, duh. . . INTIMACY! :shock: All I will say is that I have to always remind myself that it makes him feel fabulous about himself if I initiate the "Whoopy" scenes every now and then. I don't feel sexy or smokin' hot at 5 months pg BUT if doesn't entirely matter if he still has wants and needs that I can meet.
I'm no shrink (and I don't mean to sound like it) but I have great sympathy for what all of us women, mothers (of twins), and committed partners go through every now and then. It sounds like you have a fabulous man and the two of you just need to put your relationship on the front burner for a while and steam things back up emotionally, physically, and reconnect. Try different things and don't stop talking to one another about it until you BOTH feel a reconnect. HUGS and I hope my novel helps even a tiny bit!

Kimi~ I hope Alyson figures out a little nap for herself somewhere. If not for her, for you! What can you do though? I haven't had anyone I know have this issue so early. Good luck! Still, nap or no nap, she sure is sweet!

Coutney~ Sleeping through! WHOOHOO! I forgot you made it to 38 weeks. Still impressive when I hear it! The new pics are adorable and they have great weights as well. As for naps and my kids, we were at three nice naps a day until our first B-day. Then we went to two and now we waiver between one or two. Today they needed two after a busy afternoon but yesterday it was only one. Before a year my kids couldn't go more than 3 hours awake w/o a nap. Naps were always 1 hour and the afternoon one was often 1-2. That was us but all babies seem so different for sure. Good luck and I hope it's another sleepy night for the boys!

Kim~ your dog sounds like me! :shock: :lol: If I ran a few miles I would surely end up in the same state! I wish I was more into the "E" word but I simply hate it. Love all sports but the thought of running. . . :roll: Although I would love the legs!

My cousin had her baby last night. . . after 30 hours of labor she delivered him NATURALLY! no drugs at all and being a Dr. and all I would have thought she would know how to get a hold of some good ones! :wink: Westin is him name. . .love new family members!
Other than that I am super tired today. I keep thinking I will only read for an hour and the next thing I know. . . time escapes me. So, I'm off to bed to read for an hour. . .
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Thanks kholtan. Yes we are open that we need to spend more time together and we openly state we need to talk more often. We are just always "passing" each other in our busy days. Once he is done with midterm exams then he will not go to bed at 7PM so he will be able to stay up with me and spend time with me. Another thing is I have such poor self esteem because of my twin skin and extra weight that I have a hard time initiating "whoopy" as you put it haha. Plus he has such a low libido he does not want it all the dang time. I want it more than him! You are right, I do need to put him first a little more often. I will work on that. He is taking a nap today so we can have a date night in our living room and watch a movie...

I think it is also hard because I am the type of person who needs to go to church every week to get that weekly spirit dosage but we have not been able to go lately because of the girls. Every time we would go they would get sick. So once cold/flu season is over we will go. End of March most likely. I think that will help us out as well. I mean we still have family prayer, scripture study, etc so that helps a little.

OTHER THAN THAT downer, THE GIRLS SLEPT!!! THE WHOLE NIGHT!!! Well, Mackenzie woke up at like 3am and talked but went back to bed. She sucked on her thumb off and on the whole night too lol. But Brooke, not a peep!!! So one more night of them separated then I will put them back together. Also, I had a hard time waking them up at 10PM to eat. When do you think I should drop that feed? I am afraid to right now...I do not want to mess up a good thing!!!

Kholtan: Congrats on the new baby!! I can not believe she went natural...no thank you!

Well, off to give the girls their nap!
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First of all, let me say, Mrs Kholtan...you are my personal hero!!!! Five months pregnant, and still concerned with DH needs. When I was 5 mths pregnant, the last thing...I mean the very last thing I was worried about was DH needs. I know, pretty terrible, but it is the truth!!! You tell your hubby tonight he is pretty darn lucky!!!!!

Suga...we are pretty much in the same stage with all this twin business, and it is not easy. I read on your blog that you are moving back into the same room after a year, that will help tremendously. When we are sleep deprived, aggitated, irritable and all those wonderful adjectives it is so easy to let our relationship suffer. I am certainly guilty. My aunt and grandmother came in town this weekend and we went out with friends Friday night and a romantic dinner Saturday night. It was nice just to be out as myself and not bottle feeder, burper, and diaper changer!!!

And congrats on another successful night! you made it longer than us!! Kellen started crying off and on at 5:30, we got up and fed them at 6:45. But better than 3 am !!!!
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You girls crack me up! You make me laugh pretty darn hard as well! :lol: Hopefully I didn't make it sound like I was perfect at doing everything I believe I need to. . . ask dh there!! :shock: For example, last night, as porr little hubby thought he would roll over for some 5 am lovin'. . .uh-huh I said 5!!!!!. . . I just pretended to be so deep in sleep that only a bomb would wake me up! :lol: Not every attempt is a success for sure but I honestly think that when we are aware of what we see falling apart a we just need to pick up our own needle and thread. A little mending. We have been together for over 21 years so at this poing we are getting it down. We seperated for a few years while I was in college but have been high school sweethearts since the 9th grade. My first real boyfriend. Awhhh! Just kidding! :wink:

Courtney and suga~ NICE nights of sleep! WOW! You girls will be writing your own book in no time. I may need to refer back to you guys in a few months for sure. Congrats mommies!

Suga~ Don't be too down on yourself about wieght and all that. . . No matter what happens or how fast it does or doesn't come off, your dh has a wonderful mother, wife and spirtual leader that I'm sure outweighs any extra lbs. I had gained 10 lbs out of nowhere before I got pg again and I hated it but my dh didn't care at all. Not that I shouldn't because he doesn't but it's hard to focus on why our dh's love us and it's far more than what we read on the scale. You'll get back into shape in no time. Just tackle it like the sleep issue! :D

Errands galore today! Better run!
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Suga--(and Courtney!) Yeah for another great night! That's great! I wouldn't mess with the 10 pm feed yet....something's working, so keep at it. They will eventually not need that 10 pm feed, but they've just gone through a BIG change themselves, so dropping another feed so soon might be too hard. Try again in a few weeks, maybe? JMO.

As for the marriage thing. Kholtan is sooooo smart! Seriously, K, you are superwoman! When I read your words, I know you are right on the money. But, Suga....I admit, it is VERY HARD to balance everything. For any mommy. Once you and DH get some sleep, I do think you'll notice a difference. While I agree with Kim's theory on "marriage first", I admit, that out of habit, I tend to be more "kids first". Probably due to my career---kid oriented person--I know what to do with kids, I feel I can control that part of my life better, so I tackle that first, you know? DH and I do what we can, but it is hard. Plus, sometimes I resent him because I feel like I do SO MUCH for our family. I know he runs his own business, but somedays he could help out more and doesn't. I know I need to let go of that resentment, but it's hard. As for 5 AM sessions? NOT THIS GIRL! :lol: I am NOT a good sport about being woken up for sex. Never have. Never will. I am more the late night gal! :wink: I know our marriage has our ups and downs, but just keep communicating and being open with each other about your feelings/frustrations. Chances are, he's feeling some of the same things you are. It can get better, if you put some effort into it. Date nights help a ton, but aren't necessary either. Good luck! I think most of us would admit that we all have weeks or months where we feel discouraged. Now, Kholtan's DH is a hottie... :lol: :lol: So, that's probably why she's more inclined for those morning sessions! :wink: Just kidding Kim! (Not about the hot DH though!)

Oh, new development over here...my kiddos are having nightmares again I think? Can't imagine what about...they never see anything scary (not that I know of or could think of). But, I've been woken up 3 nights in a row by a baby crying in their sleep! They're still asleep...but I'm not! :roll:
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