Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[riogirl71]

Lyd- I am so sorry dear, so sorry, hug your baby and hopefully you can try again.

Margi - oh I can't wait to move you with five smiley babies to the other side....

[kynlee]

Lyd10- So sorry and you are right we go through so much and then something like this happens... I am saying lots of prayers for you on your next FET.... (hugeHugs)

Katie- i been watching so many good movies, Watch Convicted, Also Morning Glory (with Diane Keetan and Harrison Ford)... ill keep you posted on some good movies thats all I wil be doing this weekend if I get my fresh cycle... Good Luck tomorrow

Leora- So excited for you two heartbeats and a beautiful picture of the twins

Margi- My Ovaries are now officially tired lol I have already bought stock of Gatorade and the cashier said you must really like gatorade lol... Congrats on the awesome beta number

Greekchick- sounds like you are right where you are suppose to be for your cycle... how many follies do you have and did you write the measurements down???

DJBJ- Congrats

Anton- awesome fert report Funny I am also making Lasagna

Lou- your so cute you were our poas diva now you will be our H/B diva, I will have to invest in a fetal doppler once I am preggers :)That sounds awesome Now you can save money on sticks and listen to your beautiful baby inside

AFM- so i dont know if I should be concerned on my fert report, all advice is wanted Out of 22- 19 made it to icsi, out of the 19, 4 didnt make it over night, 9 are going strong 6 are lingering behind... They said they wouldnt know till tomorrow on cell counts...They said dh sperm was worse this cycle... I have no clue why since I started him on all the vitamins I thought that would have made things better... My Dr only wants me to transfer 2 I think I should transfer 3, any thoughts??? I am holding onto hope, and if I can at least get enough for transfer that would make me happy...

[LYD10]

Thank you very much, you guys! everyone is so nice with their support. you guys are the greatest! i had a couple of good cries already and spoke with the doc again after i got my head on straight. looks like he wants to wait a cycle before FET. so probably another 6 weeks before i can get started. part of me wishes i never did a fresh transfer - but i only had 2 data points - one fresh that didnt work and one fet that did. now i have 3 data points - 2 fresh that didnt work and one fet that did - so i dont think i'll ever do a fresh transfer again. we'll probably transfer 3 on the fet. i have 3 that the embryologist considers good. and another 6 that are slow or late fertilizers. hopefully the fet will just work and i wont have to think about the other 6.

the doc keeps saying that unfortunately its a numbers game for us. unfortunately there is no way of telling which one of my DH's sperm is going to do the job and we just have to keep on trying. but he says that he sees people with 0% morphology get pregnant! he's got a lady pregnant right now with 0% morphology - and it happened naturally for her. hey maybe during my rest cycle we will get lucky!

kynlee - my HB's sperm was also worse on this round! and he was also taking the vitamins up to the last minute. so no to the vitamins for my next time! urghhhh. such a guessing game this is.

i so want to give a sibling to my DS. i grew up as an only child and would LOVE a big family. i would absolutely LOVE 3 kids, but i know i have to be grateful for the one i already have, and i will be extremely happy if i could just get one more!

[amanda1979]

Margi- CONGRATULATIONS!!! X 3 LOL

Leiora- Congrats on 2 heartbeats. So exciting.

[katieb1231]

Margi - WOOHOO!!!! Awesomre first BETA....I am praying for all good things from here on out! Congratulations you must be over the moon.....

LYD - So sorry I felt like you BETA was rising slowly but appropriately so I am saddened to hear this has happened.....some people do much better on a frozen cycle....hoping that is me this time!

Kynlee - For the last fresh cycle we had 17 to start & ended up with 8 that made it to 5 day. I think that you are right on track with 9 that are going strong & 6 lingering all it take is one good one and I bet you will have way more than that! The other 6 could catch up then you would have 15.....ET is tomorrow for you right? I predict you will have some excellent ones to transfer and some more to freeze...you are on the right track...I think as far as transferring 3 it depends on quality on day of transfer & what the RE will allow I think because of your age (you are young) they discourage transferring more than two.

Lauren - Thanks for kind words. Your pup is ADORABLE! Glad she is feeling better....I just want to snuggle her!

AFM - Out of 6 frosties the first 2 they thawed made it perfectly....PHEW! The Embryologist was thrilled with the looks of them....at first to me they looked like a ball of cells and totally fragmented but then he said when he showed me the video right before transfer he almost yelled with joy at the looks of them...I was pretty out of it but he was extremely happy and said they look near perfect so he was extremely optimistic....one of the little guys didn't actually want to get out of the catheter and they all commented this was good sign that, that one was sticky! So my babies are home so the wait begins....5dpo today so I think I will start POAS on Monday which will be 10dpo....or maybe sooner! BETA is the 28th (17 dpo) but if I test positive on HPT then then they will let me go sooner. I am zonked from all the valium so another nap for me.....catch up more later

[MamaBoo]

I usually post on Feb/March thread, please, pardon the intrusion. I have a question, would POAS be too early on Fri 3/18 if I had FET of 5 day blasts on last Fri 3/11? I'm going a bit nuts right now, I know who isn't. However, I do not know how much more I can take. Thank you all for your input. By the way, I do read your thread everyday and cheer you all on!

[Kerri_789]

Hi ladies,
I come back to say hello and report what I am doing.

Margi, Congratulations on your beta. I always like to hear good news from the form; it gives me plenty of hopes.

LYD10, I am sorry for the negative news. If the doctor said that the FET for you then it is yours. Cheer up!

Leorira, nice photo! Thank you for sharing. They look perfect, just like textbook.

And a lot of other people, my best wishes!

Let me briefly repeat me story. I had 3 unsuccessful IVFs at the same clinic and am now consulting for 2nd opinion. I had my first consultation a couple of weeks in the new clinic. The new doctor suggested remove BCP from my antagonist protocol or try to stimulate the oozes longer. Blood was drained for routeing tests. A new appointment will be next month. I went back to my old doctor today to discuss my previous results and my only frosty. That’s what she would do: (1) instead of 2 day ET, she would do 3 day ET though this will depend on the number of embryos survive. (2) Since I haven’t had a successful implant so far, she will order an MRI scan for my uterus to check the interlayer structure. (3) The majority of my eggs were immature so she wants to stimulate the oozes longer next time. She will change the antagonist protocol to the agonist protocol. No idea why it work. Did someone have experience in this: changing the antagonist protocol to the agonist protocol and it worked? The quality of the frosty was not really good: 2 cells after 2-day growth. She suggested to transfer with other embryos. I agreed.

About BCP, I have done some research and found out the purpose of BCP is more than the timing control as the doctor from the new clinic told me. BCPs seem play a role in the suppression of endogenous LH and the promotion of regular turnover of the endometrial cells. This reminds me about something the doctor said in the consultation: my LH level was low during the stimulation. This is the reason I got a new protocol in my last IVF, adding a gonadotropin containing both FSH and LH activities. Now I am thinking, if I haven’t had taken BCP before the stimulation, would my LH level be normal? One of BCP function is to suppress endogenous LH….. A lot of question marks!

[katieb1231]

Mamaboo - I usually start POSA'ing at 10dpo which I think with what you said would be today which is 10dpo or tomorrow is 11dpo but that is just me I am a addict! Good Luck, I frequent that board too and I am praying for your BFP....

Kerri - I know that my RE has me take BCP's to get me on his schedule but I stopped taking them about a month before I start my cycle so before you would even get to stim's it should be totally out of your system...I did a FET this time & took them again but again stopped taking them about a month ago....I would think maybe they would affect you if you took them much longer? But I don't know just venturing a guess....good luck

[margi26]

Lyd: Oh, my. I am so sorry. Sometimes there are answers, and sometimes not. Regardless, I am sad for you...grieve....and, I agree, I'm glad that you did this before DS’s birthday. ((((HUGS)))) Take care of yourself and hold DS tight. You will get a sibling for DS...I know it!! I hear really great things about FET cycles having higher success rates...that is where DS came from, right? Hoping that the period comes soon and isn’t too hard on you.

[margi26]

DJ-BJ: Congratulations!! A boy and girl...so perfect!!

Leora: Yippee for two heartbeats!!!! I am sure all is well with the measurements, and yes dear...find an OB!! Love the photo...I think they look like David. (I know...I am hysterically funny)--and yes, I finally am brave enough to change my ticker!

Anton: Woohoo!! Excellent fertilization report....7 embies!! Getting closer to PUPO on Saturday...

Kbillsy: Good luck with ET tomorrow!!!

Greekchick: Try not to stress...yes, this process is confusing and certainly stress inducing, but try to trust your RE and get as much rest and relaxation as possible. Do you do acupuncture? I find it very helpful with reducing stress, but it is suggested that it can help improve pregnancy rates with IVF. My beta was pretty high...could just mean an early implanted and “strong” embie, or it could mean multiples. Average is about 50-70 for the dpo that I am.

Tiger: You will be starting soon....hang in there!

Kynlee: 9 going strong is great... I wouldn’t be worried. Are you doing a 3dt or a 5dt? How many to transfer is a personal decision, but at your age, I would think 2 if they look good regarding fragmentation, etc. But it is so hard to know what is best. What does RE recommend?

Lou: Thank you! Doppler sounds cool...

Katie: Congratulations to you!! Yipee...sounds like transfer went “perfectly” and you are PUPO!!!!!! Rest up and let those embies stick!!

Amanda79: Thanks....3...OMG...we shall see. Maybe just one “strong” embie.

Chris: I know...so crazy for an “old chick”

Indigofire: Thank you for the Celebratory message!!


Rio: OMG.....who knows....but as long as one healthy bean I will be happy!!

Lauren: Thank you!!! And thanks for sharing poor pup’s photo. Very adorable.


Carol: If there are more than 3...holy-moley!!! May need to send me to the nut house! But you aren't gonna need any of mine...you have several of your own cooking in there.

Amanda/klinger: Thank you!! Let’s hope for a good rise tomorrow.

Ryann: Thank you...I am overwhelmed!! But very happy.

Mellow: I am so psyched!! Thank you.

Mamaboo: If I did my calculations correctly you are currently 10dpo? That is a bit early. I got my first positive line at 11dpo (6dp5dt)...but that was early too. A lot depends on how your body metabolizes the hcg and how much is in your system. I was testing away at 10dpo....but you need to be realistic. Get happy if you get a positive, but if it is negative, remind yourself that women can get negative HPT the day of beta and still get a positive beta. Best of luck to you!!


Kerri: Thank you for the congratulations...sorry I don’t understand a lot of what you are asking. I do think adding a stim with FSH & LH (Menopur) works nicely. Best of luck in your decision.


Ashley: Thank you! Wow, you are almost 9 weeks now...so amazing! Hope you are feeling well.

AFM: I am OVER THE MOON!! And so is DH...he keeps smiling and rubbing his head (he is trying to figure out how many are really cooking...he is a numbers guy--so he is calculating odds, etc. I told him, betas aren't the most reliable measure, but he is stuck on the "average" of 170 for triplets)....let's hope for a good healthy doubling tomorrow....and then find some way to make time go by in this next 2ww for u/s!! I can't believe this is really happening. Thank you ladies so much for all of your support....I've said it before, but I'll say it again--I couldn't have done this without you all!!

Oh, and not to worry--I WILL BE calling the lab before 5 PST to make sure that the results are faxed with time for me to get them tomorrow. GOTTA KNOW!!

Sleep well ladies...I am zonked! But really still feeling good...and just so elated that all "seems" healthy.

[mom4sure]

Margi26 I am crashing from the April/May cycle board. I must admit i've been following your story from the beginning and i cannot tell you how happy I am that you are PREGNANT . I swear i could have called the lab myself yesterday . I just want to give my heartfelt CONGRATULATIONS and ENJOY YOUR PREGNANCY. YOU DESERVE IT!!!





ME 39 (Tubal)
2 Natural pgs, both ectopic, resulting in one ruptured tube and one repaired tube
IVF # 1 – Ectopic
IVF # 2 – Chemical
IVF # 3 – April 2011 BFP

[kynlee]

Margi- If I had a guess I say you got triplets cooking How exciting cant wait to hear your Beta today As fro my RE she ony recomends 2 for transfer but I am worried they wont stick... I had two FETS and both didnt work so it makes me nervous for this cycle, the only thing I got going is that this will be a fresh cycle...

Lyd10- I am thinking the same thing about the Vitamins for my DH I feel if they are what made things worse why bother with them...

Katieb1231- No if I have a 3day transfer it would be Friday... Hope my babies make it till then... CONGRATS PUPO, I will be right behind you and we can endure this long 2ww together

AFM- woke up today feeling 90% from ER... Cant wait to get my Fert report today Hope they are progressing like last cycle... Need lots of prayers

Baby dust to all

[Kerri_789]

mom4sure, like your PMA: IVF # 3 – April 2011 BFP

After re-read my previous message, I feel embarrassed with so many wrong spelling and missing words…. Hope this one is better.

My specific questions:
1. My doctor tended to replace my previous antagonist protocols with the agonist protocol because I obtained largely immature eggs. Her theory is that we need to stimulate the follicles a bit longer and the agonist protocol is longer than the antagonist protocol so it a good choice for this reason. The doctor in the new clinic made the same suggestion as well. I wonder whether the medicine world is so simple; one protocol gave immature eggs so let’s try a longer protocol to allow the eggs to mature. My question here is: has someone tried the agonist protocol because the antagonist protocol failed? What was the main reason your doctor suggest this change?
2. About BCPs, it seems more complicated than I thought after reading Katie’s message. I had a 5 day break before starting FSH (+LH) injection, while Katie had a month break before the stimulation. I think I should do more research on it.

Kerri

[greekchick]

hi ladies hope ur all well id just thought id tell you my measurments of my follicles on the last ultra sound i did yesterday on the right i have 14.5,14,13,13,9 and on the left i have 15.5,14,12.5,11,7,7 and y blood is 512.74 im goin again tomorrow to the doctors for another ultrasound and hopefully tell me what day to go for my er on...i must be gettin close surely,so when i go in for my er my hubby should be in the other room doing his bit that correct?
thanks ladies i think ur all great and been a big help to me on thisxxx
anton-ti kanies ?x

[anton]

Hi everyone!



Longtimerivf- Thank you for thinking of me and wishing me luck! I wish things move along super for you this time!

Kynlee- So, it was lasagna night!mmmm super yummmyyyy!!!! So, the way I see it with 9 going strong and 6 lingering behind things are not even close to bad at all girl! My DH was in vitamins etc for around 6 months but like my RE told us, don't expect miracles from taking vitamins. Vitamins are good for the sperm but they can't make a dramatic change on them. We must always hope for the best and give our best shot! About how many to transfer this is really up to you and your DH. Personally, I see that this is your 3rd attempt and your age is fine so I wouldn't transfer more than 2. But whatever you decide is going to work! I know it! Don't worry! My thoughts are with you! All the best to you my friend!

LYD- I wish only the best for you from now on dear! There's a significant # of cases that had success by doing FET. My RE told me at the beginning of this cycle that if we have "extra" embies after the ET we are definatelly going to freeze them b/c science in FET has developed a lot lately! So this might be IT for you! Be strong and you will see your family growing soon! Everything will be OK! ((hugs))

Katieb- Congratulations pupo woman!!!! I am so happy for you that everything went well! You take a good rest now!!

Mamaboo- Well if I am correct then today you are 11dpo and tomorrow Friday you'll be 12dpo...I am not a POAS fun...but hey! If you want to POAS then I don't see why you shouldn't! But be carefull and emotional prepared that if you get a negative it doesn't mean its a negative! Wait until you get your beta. when is that anyway! Good luck to you!

Kerri- Well, I had 4 unsuccessful IVF's with the same clinic and I've been using BCP's on all protocols. Now, on my 5th IVF I've chosen another clinic and my RE recomended the antagonist protocol and also NO BCP's. I have started Folistim on the 3/4 , the second day after my getting my period and I had my ER 11 days later on the 3/14. Now I am waiting for my 5 day ET to happen on Saturday 3/19 and so far everything is looking good. So, BCP or no BCP things are moving along...for me. This is me speaking on my personal experience though. I don't know if my own example helped. Don't forget that it depents on the history of the "patient" its self. there are no fix procedures for everyone....Good luck dear!

Margi- Of course and you are over the moon silly!! Who wouldn't!! I wish you a super doubling beta today! Can't wait to hear your #!!! ...That's so nice of you to say that we all pitch in for you to get your BFP! and I believe you! There's nothing better than to have the right people next to you cheering for you while going thru IVF! Hey! I am right behind you! Would you please sent me some baby dust of yours!!!

Leorira- Don't you think is time to find that OB!!

Greekchick- Looks like you've got a good # of eggs growing there girl! Keep up the good work! It also looks like you need a few more days to get to ER. Remember that in order to ER the leading egg should be approx 19-20mm big. so I hope your RE will tell you tomorrow when to ER. Its looking good for you dear! Don't worry! and YES its the day when your DH is going to do his daddy part! I wish you all the best!!! xx

AFM- Well, I called again today to check on my embies growth and here it goes: Yesterday we had 7 fertilized and 5 of them excellent Grade 1( 4 cell) embies. Today we still have 5 excellent Grade 1 (8 cell) embies (right the max size they should be on 3dpo said the embryologyst! ) 1 embie 6 cell and 1 that doesn't look is going to make it. Well, the embryologyst told me that they don't look at them on day 4po so she will know if they make it to blastocyst on day 5 that is Saturday morning! And again she told me she can't promise me anything b/c no one knows what might happen but from the way they are growing she doesn't see any reason why not make it. I called my nurse after that to arrange for the time of the ET and again she told me that with the blastocyst transfers they can't tell you exactly what time they are going to perform it as they need to see the embies in the morning of day 5. she said if everything goes fine then is going to happen between 10am and 12 in the morning. she will call me again tomorrow and confirm the time. So we are again on the waiting and this waiting is killing me!! But I still have a good feeling about this and I am just anxious to get PUPO!! But so far so good!

Baby dust to all and I hope this is a lucky day for all of us !!!

anton