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Hopeful2007
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Post by Hopeful2007 »

Hi Nicky, so sorry to hear the news. My heart goes out to you and your DH. Like you said your health is more important right now, so take it easy sweetie.

I believe that everything happens for a reason and maybe it is a sign from your body that you need a break and time to heal. And your time will come.

Re acupunture, not sure if you have tried Chinese Medicine. Before IVF we thought it was a male factor too and this chinese lady gave us herbal medicine for my DH that strenghens and increases sperm count. Well it did not work for us, as it was more female prob than male. But it is worth trying, my DH was taking it few days before EC, since it is herbal he said it coudnt hurt to try. Something to think about ....

Thinking of you .... BIG HUG
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Post by nicolamark »

hi all.....

Much the same here, had my drip y'day, still feel bloated ad like shit.... off work now till when ever this get better.....

3-4 wks ive been told..... no improvemnet yet......

:cry:

Back again 2moro, for bloods and scan, praying that ovaries have reduced a little and estrogen is lower.....

Love to ya all, thx for support. Boy hve i needed it! x
IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
FET negative 2011
ADOPTED DAUGHTER 2014
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Post by CarolynB »

Dear Nicky

Just read all of this thread and am so sorry to hear about this s*** that you are going through. The first thing for them to sort out is of course your health. Sorry that you are feeling so poorly. Huge hugs

I am sure that it is hard to think about what next now. Try to focus if you can on getting better. The next path will come clear to you - but not straight away

As others have say, nobody gets this unless they have been there themselves. That is why we need each other so much.

Love and hugs
Carolyn
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Post by AMck »

Hi Nicky, so sorry to read your news. I hope the meds are working and you are feeling better today.

Having had many cycles cancelled myself I know exactly how you are feeling. It just takes time to get the medication right, everyone responds differently to the drugs. It all sounds so simple, down reg, stims, then EC etc.... The reality is that it is much more complicated. When/if you try again the clinic will have a better idea of how much to give you and will probably monitor you more closely.

Please look after yourself and DH, PMA to you in buckets

Hang in there,
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Anna x
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7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
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Post by Macca8 »

Nicky,

Sorry to read your news honey. I nearly had my 4th cycle cancelled as my oestrogen excelled to 20,000 on the day before EC. But because I had no obvious signs they went ahead.

I know no words will make you feel better but I wish you a better cycle next time. Remember they are not always the same. My 5 were all different.

Lisa XXX
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Post by nicolamark »

my estrogen was 36000+

I am so scared, to try IVF again, this has totally freaked me, I really dont know how some of you girls keep going. where do u get your strength from??

Again, thx for the support. x x
IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
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Post by charlie78 »

Nic - I really feel for you, my heart goes out to you. You need to concentrate on getting yourself better instead of worrying about starting again.
I'm sure you will find the strength to go again when the time is right.
The next time - they will know so much more about your body and how you react that they should be able to avoid all of this.

For now - concentrate on rebuilding your strength - I know you must be very scared but you will get through this. Give yourself time. You are a strong lady and in time you will be able to face this again.

Big hugs

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Post by Macca8 »

Nicky,

You know what's weird, people do find the strength again. Like any form of grief/sadness you feel at the time it's all over and never again. But somehow you get there again with renewed strength. Your doctors now know how your body works and they will be able to adapt the next set of meds to suit you.

My 3rd cycle was the worst by far. I had EC with 10 eggs, then only 3 fertilised which was a huge shock and then those 3 died before I got to ET (I was on the way to the hospital when the call came). At the time my heart was completely shattered. I could not stop crying for days and days. I remember saying to my husband, I can't do this anymore, it's too hard. But then I found the strength to go again but unfortunately with a BFN but then finally no 5 was the charm. I could have given up and boy am I glad I didn't. But I always left 6 months between cycles to grieve and get my body back to normal.

I know you will do it Nicky. I know you feel so poorly at the moment and sad but if you get yourself better and concentrate on that, you will find the strength again and you will succeed. I am sure of it.

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Post by jen babes »

Nicki Honey

I am just back from my wedding party...and found these posts
much love and hugs to you and Mark...you ain't had it easy have you.

Praying that you recover soon

loving hugs
jen
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Post by Kate21 »

Hey!

Just sending you loads of love and hugs for you and Mark. Nothing I can say will make this any easier but time does heal and you will come back stronger. I emailed you on you private email address, but just thought I'd let you know I'm thinking of you :D

Take care

kate
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Post by Dagny »

Hi Nicky

I have just managed to find a moment to log on and reply to you. I am so so sorry your EC has had to be cancelled - it's such a ***** when nature and meds mess things up for you.

I just want to tell you about my 1st IVF. I hyperstimmed BIG TIME and ended up with severe OHSS and on deaths door. I begged them to go ahead with my EC even with levels of 48,000 and 30+ follies and then in between my EC and ET I bloated so much I looked 8 months PG and was so ill. I insisted on ET and it was touch and go as to whether they would do it but they did - I walked out of the clinic in London in 100 degree heat and promptly collapsed. DH was getting the car and found me in an office being cooled down and given fluids by some lovely people who found me on the floor.

I was immediately admitted to hospital where I stayed for two very long and painful weeks. I don't remember the 1st week. I was on drips, catheter, oxygen, morphine pump and stomach drain. I couldn't breath and had fluid on my lungs. The nursing staff were really worried about me as were my IVF team. I had no idea how bad I was until afterwards.

To add insult to injury it was a BFN!!

I'm not trying to scare you but to show you how bad it can get and that cancelling was really the best thing for you believe me. I wished now that they had cancelled mine but I made such a fuss they went ahead and look what happened. I didn't know about OHSS until I got it!

I went on to have OHSS badly when I got PG with Katelyn and with the twins it was horriffic once again. I was passing out everytime I stood up and ended up having my stomach drained for the 3rd time. With the twins I had 40+ follicles!

With Chloë I had 40+ follies again and 27 eggs collected.

With each of my 7 IVF's my meds have had to be dropped each time. The older I've got the less I've had to take which is the opposite of what should normally happen - I'm not normal obviously lol :lol: I was on 75iu of Puregon by the end and was on 250iu at the beginning on my 1st tmt.

Your fertility doc will be so aware of how you respond now that next time they can keep and eye on you much more closely and coast you if need be before EC. I was monitored almost daily from my 3rd tmt onwards and it does work hun. I know money and time off is an issue but please don't throw in the towel - look how well you respond. It's better to over respond than not respond at all.

Take it from an IVF veteran and someone who wouldn't give up - ME!!

Lots of love and hugs and hope you feel better and less bloated soon.

Love Dagny xxx
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1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Post by nicolamark »

Dagny, honey!!! Thanks for youe posting! YOur story is one of true inspiration. Yes, i am glad they canc. my cycle i HATE being ill, i couldnt have done what u done! This is why i think i am so weak!!! I never know where i will find the strength!

Today, i feel much the same. It's nasty!! tomorrow i am back in for scan's and bloods. god i hope the estrogens down now!!
I am stumbling along like i'm 90!! I hate it!!!

I am still on synerol, this is stopping mr from ovulation, but eventually, when ovaries have settled i'll have to release theeggs, it's gonna be a pain, im not looking fwd to, and OMG!!! what a waste!!! All those days spent growing my eggs, and now NOTHING!!!

Anyway, once again, thanks for allthe support and love. YOu guys are great!! x x
IUI using donor in 2005
1st IVF cancelled OHSS 2006
2nd IVF 4 eggs all failed to fertilise 2009
3rd IVF successful 2010 pregnant Miscarried early
FET negative 2011
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Post by Smita »

Nicki,
Sending wishes your way for all to be going well at your scan tomorrow( as well as it possibly can given the situation) and hoping that your estrogen levels have dropped..

hugs,
smita
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Post by joanna »

Hi Nicki

Just logged on and saw your news.

What a nightmare! you have been through so much i was convinced all would be ok, dont give up babe i would never advise that,the doctors will know better next time,it will all be worth it when you are holding your baby in your arms.
There are women on here which have been through so much like Dagny,it makes me feel so guilty that i concieved so quickly,but i guess we are the ones to keep you all going as we know the joy that can come out of IVF,IT WILL WORK!! just give it time you are still young.

Maybe be a christmas baby!!

Lots of love Jo xxx
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TTC 4+ YEARS
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Post by arizonakiwi »

Hi,

I just wanted to reassure you it does get better. I had the same thing happen to me a couple of months ago. Everything was fine, I was on 150iu Puregon and my first blood test showed everything thing was fine and then it just started go up and up. Even with out the stimms my estergon level kept rising - they tried coasting me for 5 days but it kept rising. When it reached 30000 they cancelled they cycle (it had to be 15000 for them to let me trigger). I was devestated went through a rough few weeks horribly bloated and other symptoms. I also felt cheated that I didn't have a change to at least get to ET and know we had a chance. I wondered if I could put myself through this again - I just wanted to feel normal again then one morning I woke up and felt better. It was such a good feeling to feel normal again.

You will feel better again, it will take a little time but give yourself time out and permission to feel sad, upset and frustrated.
(Feel free to PM me if you want to talk to someone).

Take care, sending you lots of Hugs
Angela
Me 37 DH 54
3rd IVF/ICSI Nov 07 BFN
March 08 FET BFN
June & Aug 09 DI BFN
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