Dec/Jan 08 Cycle Buddies

[LB]

Sorry to be out of touch - but things have not been going so well and DH and I are just trying to keep in good spirits. We could not do the transfer on Saturday - our little guy stopped growing. I had a feeling when it was only at 2 cells on Friday so we showed up Saturday morning and had a candid talk with RE - he agreed it was very slow and recommended against transfer. They watched it through the weekend and it stopped completely, which is better they didn't put it in because it would have stopped growing in me as well and I would have been taking needless meds and shots.

RE thinks I have an underlying egg issue (on top of tubal blockage and PCOS). He is going to try again with different meds and slower stim next cycle - late Jan or early Feb, so we don't overstimulate and so he can trigger with hcg (we had to trigger with gnrh - Lupron this time to avoid OHSS). If that doesn't work and I get lots of follicles and no eggs again, we will likely move on to donor eggs. One step at a time, I guess, but it has been very rough for DH and I - we took the day off yesterday so we didn't have to deal with work and the real world!

Best wishes to all about to do ER/ET and those in the 2ww! I won't have any news for a while, so may not post but will be thinking of all of you!

[Pummalaemma]

Lisa: i am so sorry to hear about your news. you are in my prayers. i have been thinking about donor eggs as well, if this cycle does not work out. let's keep in touch.

Pumma

[Pummalaemma]

Amy: i am so happy you may be starting your treatment in january; i'll keep my fingers crossed for you. christmas in the us is quite different from germany, but i actually really like all the lights on the houses and having the xmas tree early, i do miss the "christkindlmarkt" though. we are going to get together with a whole bunch of germans on the weekend to sing christmas carols in german and have the kids play, eat homemade cookies and talk, talk, talk. we did that last year, and it was quite emotional, since we also play instruments, like the flute, guitar and "geige", can't think of the english word right now. so i am looking forward to that very much. what about you?

Keisha: i actually used to knit a little when i was growing up and yes, i actually did knit a scarf and a sweater, so i think knitting a scarf in a happy warm color would be a great idea to keep you busy. i am just going to work and keeping busy that way. not doing much else.

Tali: i love your phrase: you are pregnant until proven otherwise. yeah, that made my day. thank you so much!!!!

my husband just came home and i need to get my progesterone shot right now, sorry to cut it short. talk to all of you later.

many hugs,

Pumma

[Mrs. G]

to mrs. G - welcome and all the best to you on your 2ww - hoping this is your time. PMA= positive mental attitude - and you've certainly got that. thanks for all of your support and advice. when do you test?

Why hello Amy! Thank you for clarifying, I love the PMA, I think positive attitude could help towards achieving positive results! Its no problem, I love to help out and share any info that I may know of. This has been along journey and I know how overwhelming it all can be. I spent many sleepless nights researching the ends of the internet just to be sure I knew of any lingo that may be thrown at me and understand a little better. Im due for my beta the 28th but I might possibly take a test the 24th. Im going to play it as I go and see if i get anymore symptoms. I just ordered 5 sensitive HCG tests from the internet. (a friend of mine recommended from exp) and waiting on their arrival.

[Mrs. G]

Mrs G - You nailed the needle thing! And PMA means Positive Mental Attitude, which we have an abundance on this thread. Thanks for letting me know the ins and outs of FET, it is my backup plan. Prayinf for much success for you!

Hi hellokitty! Im so glad to help when I can, Im glad my information was helpful to you if you ever have any questions be sure to let me know. I know some clinics do things a little differently but the basics are the same. Its great to have a backup plan and hopefully you won't even need it!! Thank you very much, I have a good feeling about this time and hope I am right!! ::Stickydust::

[Mrs. G]

Lisa,
My heart goes out to you, I am so sorry. As if all of this isn't hard enough I can't imagine what your going through. I am so sorry. I really hope things take a turn for you and your RE can help you achieve your dream. Don't give up!

Pumma,
I'm wishing you the best of luck on this 4th IVF, I really hope this is it for you! Your very strong to go through so much and I hope your journey is over soon!

[MLB]

Hi Ladies,

I had my ET today and it went much easier than the retrieval at least. I was a little bummed to learn that 2 of the 5 embryos arrested at the 2 cell stage , but at least the other 3 had quite a few cells. I did not ask for the 'quality or grade' of them because, what does it really matter? I didn't want to hear that they were poor!! So, none to freeze. After hearing on Saturday that they got 25 eggs, I certainly thought we would have a few to freeze.

It is so wonderful that everyone is typing away with new posts. When I need to kill time I read up and it is wonderful to see how everyone is doing.

hellokitty - guess we are waiting together! I really think this will be a longer wait than I anticipated even with the holidays, but perhaps it will go quicker when the weekend comes and we start to visit family?? I also have a scrapbooking project that I have been meaning to do. It is just not as much fun all by myself. If I get on it, however, it will be a x-mas gift for my mom (pics of her when she was growing up), so I guess the clock is ticking.

washingtonda - I heard that shots in the abdomen absorb better than shots in the leg.

Josephine - don't worry about this stuff. You will be told what to take when. Soon you will feel like an expert - I am sure everyone that has been through one cycle feels like a wealth of knowledge by the time they comb the internet and read all the medicine package inserts and quiz the nurses.

CT-michelle - it is funny that you say DH has such a PMA because every husband that I have heard about reacts the same. They just take it as a given that it will work. Hopefully for us they will be right! I would take an 'I told you so' very well on this particular subject. PS - are you the third grad student on this thread?

Lisa - so sorry to hear about the cancellation. On the bright side (and I know it is hard to look there), it seems like the RE has at least a slight idea of what to explore next.

To all ladies in the 2ww - UGH and keep busy or something. No idea really. I am new to this waiting but was told to veg out today and I don't like vegging out. I can't wait for it to be time to go to sleep because tomorrow at least I can go to work. Wish it didn't get dark so early!

[esperanza]

Hey Everyone,

I am now 4dp my 3dt, and it is weird to say, my pma is shrinking a little. My dh and I have been very optimistic the entire way, it seems as though we had everything going for us. Right after et, I felt a lot of symptoms, but they seem to be going away. I had sore breasts and felt bloated constantly, but it seems to be going away. From what I had read, yesterday or today was suppose to be implantation which usually comes with bleeding and I have had no bleeding at all. Has anyone else had a bfp and did not have any bleeding? The only symptom that seems to be sticking is being emotional and a bit moody.

Hi Michele, I don't have much time to post now. I will respond to everyone else later today, however, I wanted to tell Michelle that "implantation bleeding" doesn't take place in all pregnancies. I had a natural pregnancy (unfortunately ended in m/c at 10 weeks) and did not have any sign of implantation bleeding. So, YES, you can get a BFP without it AND don't worry about signs, it varies from person to person. During IVF the signs are mostly due to the medications. For example, my breast are very sore right now, and I know it's because of the BCP. So, please hang in there AND keep the PMA, you can do this, and you have us here to support you. HUGSSSSSS!!!!!

[hellokitty]

Hi Girls,

Lisa _ I'm so sorry that your precious bean did not make it. Don't give up hope and we are here if you need us.

MLB - So glad that you have your embies back where they belong. And your right, it just doesn't seem right that we would not have more after all those eggies. But I'm hoping the three that we both put back is our miracle baby. I won't even know if the other 3 made it to blast, won't find out until Friday. I'm addicted to the scrapbooking!...having so much fun finding old photos of dh (he's a Jan 1 baby) and I hope he likes it.

Mrs G - Hoping that it is our time this go around. Like MLB, my husband thinks that it definitely worked. I pray so....

I'm off to the acupuncturist...my last time. I will miss it but I don't think I can keep going to her once it is officially announced that I'm preggo. It is so relaxing....I always end up asking her was I snoring!

Sticky vibes and baby dust to all.

Keisha

[CT_Michele]

Good Morning Ladies,

Not a lot of time right now, I am at work and I have a class coming in a few minutes. I just wanted to say hello. I went for my progesterone bw this morning. I will post with results later, since I will probably have no idea what they mean.

MLB- I am a grad student on this thread. I guess I am the 3rd. I know esperanza is one, and I am one...are you the 3rd? What are you in school for? I am so glad it is almost over this semester. My final went great last night, just one more paper due friday.

Esperanza- Thank you for the positive support, I really need it right now. I know I am just being crazy. I am trying to stay positive, it is just so hard! I am going nuts inside, I really didn't think the 2ww would affect me this way, but I guess it even gets to the best of us.

I will try and post some more personals later when I post results. Have a great day all!

[tali]

Lisa, I am so sorry hun. I know it is very difficult and disappointing when a cycle gets cancelled. But I also think it is great news that your RE already has a plan for the next time. Try to stay optimistic.

Keisha, let me know how the knitting goes. My mom is an avid knitter (she actually makes all my hats and scarves) and thought me years ago. It is pretty easy, but I don’t have the personality for it. I started a scarf years ago and never finish – I hope you do better. *Smile* - by the way, I love acupuncture too. I am going to miss it after this all done and I have my BFP!

Mrs. G - I don’t know if I could wait for the beta. My last cycle, I lasted until the morning of the beta and tested at home. It actually helped that I knew it would be BFN before going in for the blood test.

Melissa – Glad your ET went well – sending lots of sticky vibes your way! When is your Beta?

Angie – Where are you girl? How did the project at work go?

Pumma – Can’t wait for you to post your BPF!

As for me, I have my baseline appt on Friday and finally start stimming on 12/26. I am hoping I will have a much better response this time and actually make it to ER and ET.

Everyone else, hope you are doing well. Sending everybody lots of baby dust.

Xoxo

[CT_Michele]

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to post my bw results and get some feedback since I really do not know too much about the progesterone levels. Today is 5dp 3dt and my progesterone was 20. What were some other people's numbers? What does it mean? The office said that was good and to continue using the suppositories no matter what. Now I just have to make it until my beta, which is 12/26. Of course I will keep you updated on how the hpt's are going.

Have a good night!

[hellokitty]

Michele,

I have no clue what is a good number. Hopefully one of the other ladies will let us know. But from reaction of your RE, yours is where it should be. I know if I get a BFP, I have to take the PIO shots until the first trimester.

Yes, please keep us posted on the hpt and beta.

[Mrs. G]

Hellokitty,
I hope our gut feelings are right and this is our time!! Goodluck hun!

Tali,
I so wish I could do that and know for sure but I wouldn't. I have a history of having low HCG levels, my last pregnancy 4 years ago took until I was 7 weeks pregnant to show up on a HPT. I ended up miscarrying at 10weeks but other than that the baby was fine. They aren't sure what caused it so I had to have a D&C. So I bought some early pregnancy tests and I might try one out next week but i base it on my symptoms because when my symptoms increased in my last pregnancy thats when it showed up on a hpt.

[Neffi211]

Lisa-- I am sooo sooo sorry that the little one didnt make it! There are no words to heal your heart... You are in my thoughts!

Tali-- We start stimms on the same day! I'm a little nervous. I'll be better after my injection class.

My DH and I go for our trial transfer Friday morning. Is this easy? Any pain with the mock transfer??

Hope everyone is having a good week. My week is going fast....cant wait to have some time off work for Xmas. Injections start in a week!


PMA!!!!!