Good morning to everyone,
I have only just had a chance to read all the posts properly to see where everyone is at as we have had a house load of people for the last week.
Alicia
Happy belated birthday!!!
Jaye
Good news about your follies good luck for EC.
Jeanie
HPT''s are evil don't do them and don't pay ant attention to the one you have done. Just stay strong not long to go now.
Shannon
I was so worried for you as I know it is hard when things don't go to plan. Fantastic news though that your levels are rising it sounds as if you are back where you should be. I hope this is your only complication and the rest of your pregnancy goes smoothly.
Wendy
How are you today?I hope you are better and the bleeding is stopping.
Hope all of you still stimming are doing well and those of you on the 2ww aren't going to mad looking for signs and symptoms!!!
I am feeling a bit better now. Although I swore blind that this was my last IVF attempt ,I had been considering another go since I got the -ve result, I mentioned this to DH over the weekend and he said he also couldn't accept that was it. I have decided to give myself until christmas to decide what to do next. I have 14 month old twins from a previous sucessful tmt and don't want to miss a big chunk of them growing up by being obsessed with IVF. I hope by christmas I will have decided enough is enough because IVF is hard enough without having to coordinate 2 active toddlers. Especially as we told noone what we were doing.
Take care everyone.
Calling any August Cycle buddies
Hey everyone,
well, today's test was OK - they are going ahead for Thurs with EC, so I'm having trigger tonight. I'm happy to have got this far - they think there's probably only 5, but as you all said (and we all know), it only takes one, so crossed fingers. I think we're going to try ICSI as well - we had very low fertilisation last time, that's another $1000 on the bill but in for a penny... I'm a bit worried about higher incidence of birth defects I've heard about with ICSI - does anyone have any insights or thoughts??
Alicia, Staci, thanks for your thoughts.
Jeanie, leave those HPTs alone! (if you can - I of course won't be taking my own advice in 2 weeks
). Just hang on in there, not long to go now... you should do the test 14 days from EC, with EC as day 0 - EC is like ovulation, day 1 is when they fertilise (at least, that's what my clinic says) so they wait for you to be 2 days late - I don't know when you're counting from - does that help? and i have to ask, exactly what did you do with the cabbage when you bought it???? I'm intrigued...
Shannon - congrats!!!! sounds like everything's going great! Enjoy!
Take care all,
Jaye
well, today's test was OK - they are going ahead for Thurs with EC, so I'm having trigger tonight. I'm happy to have got this far - they think there's probably only 5, but as you all said (and we all know), it only takes one, so crossed fingers. I think we're going to try ICSI as well - we had very low fertilisation last time, that's another $1000 on the bill but in for a penny... I'm a bit worried about higher incidence of birth defects I've heard about with ICSI - does anyone have any insights or thoughts??
Alicia, Staci, thanks for your thoughts.
Jeanie, leave those HPTs alone! (if you can - I of course won't be taking my own advice in 2 weeks
). Just hang on in there, not long to go now... you should do the test 14 days from EC, with EC as day 0 - EC is like ovulation, day 1 is when they fertilise (at least, that's what my clinic says) so they wait for you to be 2 days late - I don't know when you're counting from - does that help? and i have to ask, exactly what did you do with the cabbage when you bought it???? I'm intrigued...Shannon - congrats!!!! sounds like everything's going great! Enjoy!
Take care all,
Jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
Jaye,
I read a lot on this topic since we were using ICSI.
I think that any studies which have shown a higher rate of birth defects when ICSI is used have only shown a very slight increase. One study I read showed a 1 in 4,000 occurrence of a rare birth defect which was slightly higher than the occurrence in the general population. Then, there are also some studies showing that, if the problem is male factor infertility, that same problem may be passed on to a son. I think the biggest questions come into play when there is a male factor component. One theory is that someone with a low sperm count or motility may have chromosomal abnormalities to begin with that leads to a greater incidence of birth defects; not that it is the procedure itself which is responsible. At any rate, my clinic actually uses ICSI for all of their patients; even when the problem is not male factor infertility. They have found that ICSI provides much better fertilization rates in all cases. Again, any studies that show an increase in birth defects show a very slight (like 1%) increase over the general population and, of course, that might be due to factors which brought the people in for treatment to begin with rather than being a direct result of the procedure. I wouldn't worry and I think you are doing the right thing by going with ICSI as it can only help.
Staci
I read a lot on this topic since we were using ICSI.
I think that any studies which have shown a higher rate of birth defects when ICSI is used have only shown a very slight increase. One study I read showed a 1 in 4,000 occurrence of a rare birth defect which was slightly higher than the occurrence in the general population. Then, there are also some studies showing that, if the problem is male factor infertility, that same problem may be passed on to a son. I think the biggest questions come into play when there is a male factor component. One theory is that someone with a low sperm count or motility may have chromosomal abnormalities to begin with that leads to a greater incidence of birth defects; not that it is the procedure itself which is responsible. At any rate, my clinic actually uses ICSI for all of their patients; even when the problem is not male factor infertility. They have found that ICSI provides much better fertilization rates in all cases. Again, any studies that show an increase in birth defects show a very slight (like 1%) increase over the general population and, of course, that might be due to factors which brought the people in for treatment to begin with rather than being a direct result of the procedure. I wouldn't worry and I think you are doing the right thing by going with ICSI as it can only help.
Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
Jaye,
That's great news! All the luck to you for Thursday! Hope all goes smoothly and easily and that you enjoy the day resting. May all the eggs fertilize! I think ICSI can help, though we've never been offered it at my clinic. I wonder if it is more common in the UK? One other reason that eggs can sometimes not fertilize, apparently, is because estrogen levels are too high from all the IVF meds. So I think ICSI helps for that.
Ellie,
I know what you mean about deciding this is the last go and then wanting to try again. I really feel that I cannot go through a fresh cycle again, but I'm not even telling this to DH. One never knows how one will feel about it later. I'm glad your DH feels the same as you do. I hope you both come to the right decision for you.
I had some brown spotting last night. I was convinced the whole thing was over, but nothing this morning. I've never had that before. Scary. AF is not due until Saturday.
Alicia
That's great news! All the luck to you for Thursday! Hope all goes smoothly and easily and that you enjoy the day resting. May all the eggs fertilize! I think ICSI can help, though we've never been offered it at my clinic. I wonder if it is more common in the UK? One other reason that eggs can sometimes not fertilize, apparently, is because estrogen levels are too high from all the IVF meds. So I think ICSI helps for that.
Ellie,
I know what you mean about deciding this is the last go and then wanting to try again. I really feel that I cannot go through a fresh cycle again, but I'm not even telling this to DH. One never knows how one will feel about it later. I'm glad your DH feels the same as you do. I hope you both come to the right decision for you.
I had some brown spotting last night. I was convinced the whole thing was over, but nothing this morning. I've never had that before. Scary. AF is not due until Saturday.
Alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
Hi there. Thanks for the hpt advice, you're all right, is not a good idea yet. Still feeling irritable and unsociable, for a change!
Shannon - you must both be over the moon.
So happy for you - congratulations. How does it feel to be officially pregnant? This is your first go as well, isn't it? Wow, excellent news. x
Candy - our hospital doesn't check prog levels. Seems a few different practices going on all over. It's good you know to take more now, bet you're glad they do check there. Not nice you have to inject. I prefer the pessaries - can be a bit messy afterwards but don't hurt! x
Alicia - glad you had a nice birthday. Do you have a new job? (Talk of clearing out suits). I've been wanting to change mine for a while (sec. school teacher) but on the other hand haven't wanted any major changes, plus not seen many I would want to upheave for. Hope you haven't had any more spotting. Remember, it doesn't mean anything and brown blood
is old blood. Stay calm, easier said, I know.........x
Staci - thanks for the advice, you keep me right!
Jaye - good to hear you're going ahead. The cabbage was for my sore nipples (heard from a friend it helps)! Is sitting in fridge as neither me nor DH like it, yuk! Good luck for thursday - I enjoyed the EC and feeling sedated!!
Ellie - sounds like a good idea to have a break from IVF and if you feel you want to try again in a few months, then go ahead. Why don't you just say to yourself 'we'll leave it for now but never say never' and you never know what could happen naturally in between. You are so lucky to have twins - enjoy them for a while. x
Bye for now, love Jeanie xxxxx
Shannon - you must both be over the moon.
So happy for you - congratulations. How does it feel to be officially pregnant? This is your first go as well, isn't it? Wow, excellent news. xCandy - our hospital doesn't check prog levels. Seems a few different practices going on all over. It's good you know to take more now, bet you're glad they do check there. Not nice you have to inject. I prefer the pessaries - can be a bit messy afterwards but don't hurt! x
Alicia - glad you had a nice birthday. Do you have a new job? (Talk of clearing out suits). I've been wanting to change mine for a while (sec. school teacher) but on the other hand haven't wanted any major changes, plus not seen many I would want to upheave for. Hope you haven't had any more spotting. Remember, it doesn't mean anything and brown blood
is old blood. Stay calm, easier said, I know.........x
Staci - thanks for the advice, you keep me right!
Jaye - good to hear you're going ahead. The cabbage was for my sore nipples (heard from a friend it helps)! Is sitting in fridge as neither me nor DH like it, yuk! Good luck for thursday - I enjoyed the EC and feeling sedated!!
Ellie - sounds like a good idea to have a break from IVF and if you feel you want to try again in a few months, then go ahead. Why don't you just say to yourself 'we'll leave it for now but never say never' and you never know what could happen naturally in between. You are so lucky to have twins - enjoy them for a while. x
Bye for now, love Jeanie xxxxx
Hi everyone, thanks for all your thoughts, especially alicia and staci for the thoughts on ICSI. If they use it routinely at your clinic, it can't be too risky, so I guess I'll give it a go. They think DH is fine, so I guess I shouldn't be too worried. I go in at 10 tomorrow, so i'll let you all know how I get on. Personally i hate EC - I felt really sh*te after the last time. So i'd better get some attention from DH after all this! I'll milk it for all it's worth
Jaye
Jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
Hi Girls
Well i made it through EC on monday it wasnt easy tho i was a mess i got there dp did his bit im sitting in the waiting room very close to tears as soon as he came back i burst out crying god what a wally i felt went into theartre signed the forms and stuff they knew i was scared as it was quite obvious i let them do the local aneasthetic then that was it i started crying all over the place i was in a right old state the docter and nurse were so lovely thou bless them. they took my blood pressure at one point it was 153 over 93 quite high this was me being scared so the stuck one of them things on my finger and my heart rate was all over the place my heart was beating very very fast any way after a while i calmed down enough and she started she stuck the needle in i didnt feel much really but i thought it wasnt in my ovary and then DP goes yes it is look there draining and im like oh ok that didnt really hurt think they thought i was a loonie i did keep making them laugh tho dont think they will forget me in a hurry the second ovary she did i felt a lot more as the local was starting to wear off but i was ok.
Anyway they got 21 eggs which i think surprised even them so im drinking the water all the time. the hospital called yesterday we have 2 embies by i.v.f they were 7 cell yesterday morning and we have 6 embies by icsi they are 8 cell we decided to do some as ivf as we had so many the embie person thought it would be worth trying we lost 13 somewhere not sure at what stage but i will find out more on ET which they are doing tomorrow morning (thursday) was going to be today but they wanted them to grow a bit more first especially the ivf ones.
god think i have gone on rather a lot here im not feeling to bad now i have spent the last 2 days on the sofa as i could hardly move but my stomach feels a lot easier today still sore but not to bad
Dolly let me know how your EC went hun i hope you are not feeling to rough ?
Alicia i hope you had a lovely birthday and were pampered well
Jaye you were wondering about icsi thats what we have had its very common we only decided to use some as ivf just to see what would happen we used 15 for icsi we have 6 embies we used 6 for ivf and we have 2 embies im not sure about the ones we lost or at what stage they were but i think the egg and sperm quality have a lot to do with icsi to start with the egg has to be strong enough to take the injection i will let you know more on where my lost 13 went tomorrw after ET
ok now i really have gone on long enough i hope you are all well and i so look forward to joining the 2 ww ers
loads of love and PMA
Ang xxx
Well i made it through EC on monday it wasnt easy tho i was a mess i got there dp did his bit im sitting in the waiting room very close to tears as soon as he came back i burst out crying god what a wally i felt went into theartre signed the forms and stuff they knew i was scared as it was quite obvious i let them do the local aneasthetic then that was it i started crying all over the place i was in a right old state the docter and nurse were so lovely thou bless them. they took my blood pressure at one point it was 153 over 93 quite high this was me being scared so the stuck one of them things on my finger and my heart rate was all over the place my heart was beating very very fast any way after a while i calmed down enough and she started she stuck the needle in i didnt feel much really but i thought it wasnt in my ovary and then DP goes yes it is look there draining and im like oh ok that didnt really hurt think they thought i was a loonie i did keep making them laugh tho dont think they will forget me in a hurry the second ovary she did i felt a lot more as the local was starting to wear off but i was ok.
Anyway they got 21 eggs which i think surprised even them so im drinking the water all the time. the hospital called yesterday we have 2 embies by i.v.f they were 7 cell yesterday morning and we have 6 embies by icsi they are 8 cell we decided to do some as ivf as we had so many the embie person thought it would be worth trying we lost 13 somewhere not sure at what stage but i will find out more on ET which they are doing tomorrow morning (thursday) was going to be today but they wanted them to grow a bit more first especially the ivf ones.
god think i have gone on rather a lot here im not feeling to bad now i have spent the last 2 days on the sofa as i could hardly move but my stomach feels a lot easier today still sore but not to bad
Dolly let me know how your EC went hun i hope you are not feeling to rough ?
Alicia i hope you had a lovely birthday and were pampered well
Jaye you were wondering about icsi thats what we have had its very common we only decided to use some as ivf just to see what would happen we used 15 for icsi we have 6 embies we used 6 for ivf and we have 2 embies im not sure about the ones we lost or at what stage they were but i think the egg and sperm quality have a lot to do with icsi to start with the egg has to be strong enough to take the injection i will let you know more on where my lost 13 went tomorrw after ET
ok now i really have gone on long enough i hope you are all well and i so look forward to joining the 2 ww ers
loads of love and PMA
Ang xxx
Our dream came true after 5 yrs ttc we know have 8month old twin boys Adam and Kieran and our gorgeous 9 yr old daughter.
Hang in there miracles really do happen
Hang in there miracles really do happen
Hi Ang
Good luck with the ET. It's the EC I'm dreading (I've only just done 1st down reg yesterday, so got another 3 weeks or so to go!). Needles and that area do not seem compatable to me! I don't blame you for your reaction.... they'll probably have to strap me down when they do mine!
I'll keep everything crossed for you!
xx
Good luck with the ET. It's the EC I'm dreading (I've only just done 1st down reg yesterday, so got another 3 weeks or so to go!). Needles and that area do not seem compatable to me! I don't blame you for your reaction.... they'll probably have to strap me down when they do mine!
I'll keep everything crossed for you!
xx
Me 31 (dodgy ovulation)
DH 39 (dodgy swimmers)
TTC 9 Years, 12 months on Clomid 6 yrs ago
1st IVF/ICSI Sept 04 +ve, m/c at 5 1/2 weeks
Couldn't face the pain again.....
DH 39 (dodgy swimmers)
TTC 9 Years, 12 months on Clomid 6 yrs ago
1st IVF/ICSI Sept 04 +ve, m/c at 5 1/2 weeks
Couldn't face the pain again.....
Hi Jools
Believe me hun it really isnt that bad i was so scared as i have never had any sort of operation before or anything i knew from the start i would get myself all worked up but honestly it really isnt that bad and if your having sedation you wont remember anything about it altho i am very glad i had local as i wanted to remember it and you get to see them taking the out the follies on the telly
good luck with it all hun it is hard but you will get there i never thought i would get this far but i have and it feels so good knowing that i was strong enough to get throu it i still have the ET and the 2ww but if i can get this far then the next 2 weeks will be fine
good luck and best wishes to you jools
Love Ang xx
Believe me hun it really isnt that bad i was so scared as i have never had any sort of operation before or anything i knew from the start i would get myself all worked up but honestly it really isnt that bad and if your having sedation you wont remember anything about it altho i am very glad i had local as i wanted to remember it and you get to see them taking the out the follies on the telly
good luck with it all hun it is hard but you will get there i never thought i would get this far but i have and it feels so good knowing that i was strong enough to get throu it i still have the ET and the 2ww but if i can get this far then the next 2 weeks will be fine
good luck and best wishes to you jools
Love Ang xx
Our dream came true after 5 yrs ttc we know have 8month old twin boys Adam and Kieran and our gorgeous 9 yr old daughter.
Hang in there miracles really do happen
Hang in there miracles really do happen
Jaye,
Good luck for EC tommorrow - I hope they get all the lovely eggs. And I especially hope one (or two) of them will be the "special" ones. Wishing you lots of fertilization, too. I hope you will have plenty of time to rest up afterwards.
Angela,
Wow, 22 eggs! That's great that you reacted so well to the medication. 8 embies is EXCELLENT! Some of the reasons you might not have the other 13 are estrogen levels too high (common in IVF), eggs immature or overly mature, or they did not grow fast enough to be counted. Sometimes the lab will expose them again to see if they fertilize on the second attempt. But really, 8 is an EXCELLENT number and you will likely get some frosties out of them.
I had a hard day yesterday. I became convinced that it hadn't worked and that I could never put myself through this again. The 2ww is the worst!!
And I definately think this second one is worse than the first one was. But I'm feeling much better today so far. I hope you others on the 2ww are doing okay, and staying more hopeful.
Alicia
Good luck for EC tommorrow - I hope they get all the lovely eggs. And I especially hope one (or two) of them will be the "special" ones. Wishing you lots of fertilization, too. I hope you will have plenty of time to rest up afterwards.
Angela,
Wow, 22 eggs! That's great that you reacted so well to the medication. 8 embies is EXCELLENT! Some of the reasons you might not have the other 13 are estrogen levels too high (common in IVF), eggs immature or overly mature, or they did not grow fast enough to be counted. Sometimes the lab will expose them again to see if they fertilize on the second attempt. But really, 8 is an EXCELLENT number and you will likely get some frosties out of them.
I had a hard day yesterday. I became convinced that it hadn't worked and that I could never put myself through this again. The 2ww is the worst!!
And I definately think this second one is worse than the first one was. But I'm feeling much better today so far. I hope you others on the 2ww are doing okay, and staying more hopeful.Alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
Hi Guys
Angela, wow 21 eggs that is amazing - and 8 embies is a fantastic number. Good luck with your ET tomorrow.
Jaye, good luck for our ET tomorrow - hope it all goes well for you.
Shannon, excellent news - I'm so pleased for you. Congratulations!
My EC went pretty well - one of my ovaries is a little difficult to get to - but other than that is was pretty straightforward. We only managed 6 eggs and 4 fertilised. I go back in on Friday for my ET. I was hoping for a few more eggs this time (they had upped my drugs) - it suddenly dawned on me this morning that this is my only option now.. in the past we always knew we could ttc naturally inbetween cycles... and I got a bit teary - but I'm back on track now and grateful for the 4 we have and praying that at least 2 make the grade on Friday.
Love to all of you and especially those on the 2ww.
Love
Dolly
Angela, wow 21 eggs that is amazing - and 8 embies is a fantastic number. Good luck with your ET tomorrow.
Jaye, good luck for our ET tomorrow - hope it all goes well for you.
Shannon, excellent news - I'm so pleased for you. Congratulations!
My EC went pretty well - one of my ovaries is a little difficult to get to - but other than that is was pretty straightforward. We only managed 6 eggs and 4 fertilised. I go back in on Friday for my ET. I was hoping for a few more eggs this time (they had upped my drugs) - it suddenly dawned on me this morning that this is my only option now.. in the past we always knew we could ttc naturally inbetween cycles... and I got a bit teary - but I'm back on track now and grateful for the 4 we have and praying that at least 2 make the grade on Friday.
Love to all of you and especially those on the 2ww.
Love
Dolly
Me 38 / DH 40. TTC 8 yrs
3 natural pg - 2 ectopics and 1 miscarriage
2nd IVF +ve but miscarried
1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th IVF all -ve
Moved to the ARGC.
Just started for the 7th time (!) Feb/March 2006.
3 natural pg - 2 ectopics and 1 miscarriage
2nd IVF +ve but miscarried
1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th IVF all -ve
Moved to the ARGC.
Just started for the 7th time (!) Feb/March 2006.
Good Evening Everybody .. !
Just caught up on all your news, and must say it's looking good
Jaye ... Good luck for EC tomorrow At last ! . going back to previous post, I've always counted 2ww from ET, not EC. If I counted from EC it would be 19 days rather than 17 !
Dolly - well done on your 6 eggs, and 4 fertilitised ! Wow, that's great news. I hope ET goes smoothly for you on Fri.
Alicia .. happy v. belated b'day Glad you had a good evening out. Taking the 2ww one day at a time is the only way ... you will be up one day and down the next ... but I'm glad today is an upper !!
Staci .. hope you're doing okay .. you're always full of good ideas and advice, which is very reassuring to everyone
Jeanie ... Hey, not long to go now ...!! you've nearly done it ... 3 more sleeps that's all Keep up the PMA PMA, that's my girl !!
Shannon ... I'm sooo pleased everything's okay for you. You now need to enjoy every minute of it
Wendy .. I'm really pleased to see your levels have risen so much and the bldg has stopped. You take it real easy now and make sure you get lots of rest.
Ellie .. I'm glad you're feeling a little better Ellie... you've had an awful time and I really feel for you.... you make sure you look after yourself.
Ang .. How many ?
Gosh, 21 ! No wonder you were bloated. Well done you ! I wish you an easy ET !
Candy ... I hope you're not going too nuts ? Keep up the positive thoughts and envisage those embies getting comfy.
Paige ... It's so good to see you doing so well ... I can tell you're buzzing from over here ..!
We didn't hear from Tracie did we, after her test on 17th ..? (unless I've missed it), ... I hope you're okay Tracie ...
Well ... wishing everyone lots and lots of positive thoughts and hope I haven't missed anyone ....
Sandra x
Just caught up on all your news, and must say it's looking good
Jaye ... Good luck for EC tomorrow
At last ! . going back to previous post, I've always counted 2ww from ET, not EC. If I counted from EC it would be 19 days rather than 17 ! Dolly - well done on your 6 eggs, and 4 fertilitised ! Wow, that's great news. I hope ET goes smoothly for you on Fri.
Alicia .. happy v. belated b'day
Glad you had a good evening out. Taking the 2ww one day at a time is the only way ... you will be up one day and down the next ... but I'm glad today is an upper !!Staci .. hope you're doing okay .. you're always full of good ideas and advice, which is very reassuring to everyone
Jeanie ... Hey, not long to go now ...!! you've nearly done it ... 3 more sleeps that's all
Keep up the PMA PMA, that's my girl !!Shannon ... I'm sooo pleased everything's okay for you. You now need to enjoy every minute of it
Wendy .. I'm really pleased to see your levels have risen so much and the bldg has stopped. You take it real easy now and make sure you get lots of rest.
Ellie .. I'm glad you're feeling a little better Ellie... you've had an awful time and I really feel for you.... you make sure you look after yourself.
Ang .. How many ?
Gosh, 21 ! No wonder you were bloated. Well done you ! I wish you an easy ET ! Candy ... I hope you're not going too nuts ? Keep up the positive thoughts and envisage those embies getting comfy.
Paige ... It's so good to see you doing so well ... I can tell you're buzzing from over here ..!
We didn't hear from Tracie did we, after her test on 17th ..? (unless I've missed it), ... I hope you're okay Tracie ...
Well ... wishing everyone lots and lots of positive thoughts
and hope I haven't missed anyone .... Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
See, pretending to be on top of things .. but really quite barking ! ...
Sorry girls, how could I forget you poor souls on 2ww, Mandy and Chubbs. I hope you're managing to keep fairly sane. 20 days Chubbs, it's just not fair is it ? ...mine was 19 .. plain
Caroline ... I hope you're now maybe starting to get over your ordeal, and feeling better.
Alison - hope your scan went okay and things are progressing.
Sandra x
Sorry girls, how could I forget you poor souls on 2ww, Mandy and Chubbs. I hope you're managing to keep fairly sane. 20 days Chubbs, it's just not fair is it ? ...mine was 19 .. plain
Caroline ... I hope you're now maybe starting to get over your ordeal, and feeling better.
Alison - hope your scan went okay and things are progressing.
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Sandra,
You really do win the prize for keeping best track of us. Thank you, it means so much to me and I'm sure to everyone else. Yes, we do seem to be missing Tracie. I sent her PM, but no reply. I hope she got a BFP and just doesn't need all of us IVFers anymore.
Dolly,
Good luck tommorrow. I don't understand your post. Did you have the tubes removed? We did that right at the start. I'm relieved that when people say to me "Oh, I know a couple who went through that whole IVF thing and finally afterwards they relaxed and got PG naturally." I can just say "That's nice for them but it won't happen to me, thank you."
Alicia
You really do win the prize for keeping best track of us. Thank you, it means so much to me and I'm sure to everyone else. Yes, we do seem to be missing Tracie. I sent her PM, but no reply. I hope she got a BFP and just doesn't need all of us IVFers anymore.
Dolly,
Good luck tommorrow. I don't understand your post. Did you have the tubes removed? We did that right at the start. I'm relieved that when people say to me "Oh, I know a couple who went through that whole IVF thing and finally afterwards they relaxed and got PG naturally." I can just say "That's nice for them but it won't happen to me, thank you."
Alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
Hi everyone,
Well EC went fine, much less traumatic than last time - not that anything much happened last time, but I remember being really sore and stuff - today I feel fine. And the Olympics are a bit better than day-time TV...
They got 9 eggs, probably only 5 mature. After a last chat with the embryologist, we are doing ICSI on all even though DH has no problems, to increase our chances. Thanks everyone for your thoughts on the topic - they were really useful. We'll find out tomorrow how many fertilised.
Seconding Alicia's thanks to Sandy for doing such a great job of keeping track - I'm afraid it's beyond me when there's so many. 19 days from EC seems like a lot - I wonder why it's that many? I think they generally count from EC coz that's like ovulation - they can put them back in at 2,3 or 5 days, so I think you count from EC coz that's always day 0. That's what I think, anyway, but maybe I'm wrong.
Dolly, I was a bit disappointed with my response, too. We are about the same. The dr upped my drugs but it didn't seem to make much difference. They are sending the batch we used back to have it tested to make sure there wasn't anything wrong with it, which I thought was really good. She also said they would use a different drug next time (I was using Gonal-F) - but of course there won't be a next time, will there - PMA PMA - we just need one.
Angela, you poor thing. Glad you made it through OK. Let's hope it's the last time you have to go through anything like it - until childbirth, that is 21 eggs is fantastic - really interested to hear what happened to the 13 - what stage did they lose them?
Come on Alicia, keep up the PMA. Last time I was convinced it hadn't worked - the +ve was the biggest shock of my life - I got the call in the middle of eating sushi as compensation for not being pg!
I think it's interesting hearing about those of you who are awake for the EC - they knock us out completely. DH got to watch this time, though - apparently it's really interesting, (he said i would have loved it!). We don't get a general, but it's only one step down from that. I wonder why.
Jools, it's not so bad. You'll be fine. Just trust that everyone's done it a million times, and you're in good hands. A few painkillers and you'll be fine - although I know it's pretty scary.
Now we start the wait to see how many of my little eggs turn into wonderful embies...
Take care all,
Jaye
Well EC went fine, much less traumatic than last time - not that anything much happened last time, but I remember being really sore and stuff - today I feel fine. And the Olympics are a bit better than day-time TV...
They got 9 eggs, probably only 5 mature. After a last chat with the embryologist, we are doing ICSI on all even though DH has no problems, to increase our chances. Thanks everyone for your thoughts on the topic - they were really useful. We'll find out tomorrow how many fertilised.
Seconding Alicia's thanks to Sandy for doing such a great job of keeping track - I'm afraid it's beyond me when there's so many. 19 days from EC seems like a lot - I wonder why it's that many? I think they generally count from EC coz that's like ovulation - they can put them back in at 2,3 or 5 days, so I think you count from EC coz that's always day 0. That's what I think, anyway, but maybe I'm wrong.
Dolly, I was a bit disappointed with my response, too. We are about the same. The dr upped my drugs but it didn't seem to make much difference. They are sending the batch we used back to have it tested to make sure there wasn't anything wrong with it, which I thought was really good. She also said they would use a different drug next time (I was using Gonal-F) - but of course there won't be a next time, will there - PMA PMA - we just need one.
Angela, you poor thing. Glad you made it through OK. Let's hope it's the last time you have to go through anything like it - until childbirth, that is
21 eggs is fantastic - really interested to hear what happened to the 13 - what stage did they lose them? Come on Alicia, keep up the PMA. Last time I was convinced it hadn't worked - the +ve was the biggest shock of my life - I got the call in the middle of eating sushi as compensation for not being pg!
I think it's interesting hearing about those of you who are awake for the EC - they knock us out completely. DH got to watch this time, though - apparently it's really interesting, (he said i would have loved it!). We don't get a general, but it's only one step down from that. I wonder why.
Jools, it's not so bad. You'll be fine. Just trust that everyone's done it a million times, and you're in good hands. A few painkillers and you'll be fine - although I know it's pretty scary.
Now we start the wait to see how many of my little eggs turn into wonderful embies...
Take care all,
Jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.