Anyone else trying for #2...

[kimmysq]

Joyanna:
Oh my gosh, I never expected this. Why does the Dr. think this happened?? I know you must be filled with grief. I am just so sorry and wish I could give you a big hug.
(((((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))))))))
Please know that my heart goes out to you.
Kim

[suzhan]

Joyanna - my heart pours out to you - I'm just so very sorry you've had this happen. I know it's hard, but if and when you're ready, you can try again. I've experienced two m/c's in the past two year, so let me know if I can help in any way. I saw your other post and I don't think there's really a right or wrong answer on whether to proceed to a d&c or wait for the natural route. I personally chose the d&c with both because I didn't want to experience the pain (both physically and emotionally) of the natural m/c. My RE had us wait 2 complete cycles with both m/c's before I could start another ivf cycle.

Take care.

[lauradc]

Joyanna- I'm so very sorry- I will continue to keep you and your family in my prayers and thoughts. Laura

[Melo_P]

Joyanna

So very sorry, to hear your heart breaking news. It is so much harder to loose when you have been so close. Hugs and thoughts are with you and your family.

Like suhzan if there is anything you want to talk through or ask any questions when you are ready - will readily lend an ear - having gone through a miscarriage for the first time myself earlier this year.

Hugs to your family. Please let us know how your doing in your own time - and know that we are here for you.

Mel

[alreadyblessed]

Hi Joyanna~ Just wanted to check on you and see how you are feeling. I have you and your DH in my prayers, and I hope that you are feeling better with each passing day.

Hello ladies~ wondering how everyone is doing. It's been pretty quiet. I am happy to say that my last episode of "hemmorhage-like" bleeding was 8 days ago and that's the longest I have gone between episodes, so I am remaining cautiously optomistic that the bleeding may be coming to an end. I have another sono on Friday and am remaining hopeful. I have to go for an ultrascreen on October 1st b/c I am over 35, so I am beginning the gammet of tests. Has anyone else had one? Is it just an intense sono?

Well, I hope everyone is doing well. Take care.

[joyanna]

Hello everyone

Thanks to you all for your kind words and prayers. I had a scan today and tg I have fully miscarried - so no d&c. The doc said that I should only have light bleeding for another 3-4 days. It has been a horrible week but what can you do. You just have to accept what you can't change. I am finding it very difficult to get back into the local mum and tots activities - I just seem to want to get away from the whole 'reproduction' scene!!!!

I had a quick chat with the doctor today and she has suggested that I try again in a few months (jan/feb 2009) and that I will be on additional meds - last time I was on asprin, progestrone (pessary am and injection pm) and estrogen (3 x 2mg daily). I might ask Ghost about them in a bit, I have the names of the 2 new meds that she mentioned and I would like to know if he has any knowledge about them. I have a proper consult with the doc in late October.

Suzhan and Melo_P - thanks for your words of support about the m/c - I was all set for booking the d&c today if I hadn't miscarried. I hope that you are keeping well. Do you have any plans for a next round of ivf?

Lauradc - hope you good and thanks for your mail.

Alreadyblessed - I am so happy that your bleeding has stopped. I can only imagine how scary it is for you but tg that your little one is doing great.

Kimmysq - how are your two little ones? Are you still having the m/s? I was wondering if you could tell me what meds etc you used for your last FET and if they were different from your previous fets. The doc mentioned about trying an FET next time (we have 2 frozen blasts from the ivf cycle when I had my dd) but after 3 failed fets I am reluctant to try again without really making a change to the meds.

I have my 40th bday party in a few weeks ........so I have some serious spending to do at my local beauticans to make myself look presentable!

Thats all for the moment and thanks again for all your support.

[kimmysq]

Joyanna:
Happy Birthday!!! Have fun at the beautician! I am 43...ugh!
I have had 4 total FETS...only the last one took. They finally changed my meds:
Estrace (started out once per day, then twice per day, then three times per day, then dropped down to twice per day)
Baby ASA-but only for about 2 weeks
PIO (this was the hardest change for me, they went 2 1cc twice per day). My RE said with FEt they really shut down all progesterone, more so than fresh IVF...so considering it was my last cycle he really wanted to make that change. After I was pg for a couple weeks, he let me switch over to either sup. or vaginal gel.
I am again so sorry about everything you have gone through.

As for me, I have had a really hard time. I have had terrible m/s. I hate to complain but it has been so bad, I have been neglecting my family and my job. I can't keep a pre natal down and I don't think a day has gone by where I don't throw up 3 times a day and dry heave about 20. I don't look the same and just feel terrible. I guess this is the price you pay, but my other pg was cake compared to this one...

Hugs to all,
Kim

[Melo_P]

Hey All

Joyanna - just a quick note to say glad that your working your way through this little by little. A blessing that you didn't have to go through the extra D and C too. Enjoy your party - and beautifying yourself a little! Hopefully (for both of us!) - next time answers our prayers! I would give those frosties a go when your ready - I even saw some posts that are showing the frosties are actually having better success rates than fresh in some clinics - so talk to ghost about this (His clinic is one that apparently is demonstrating this).

Kimmy - sorry to hear about that M/S - hopefully it won't last!

Hope everyone else well.

I'm expecting my AF on monday - and intend to start my next go of IVF then (arrrrrgggg!) don't feel ready at all - but then will I ever! Scared, excited and all the rest of it. Wish my luck and do lots of red shoe 3 X tapping for me!!

Best

M

[kimmysq]

Melo:
I hope AF starts soon and you can get started. I hope this cycle goes smoothly for you, and you get a BFP!! It just doesn't seem fair all you went through.
Hugs and Baby dust,
Kim

[Melo_P]

Hi All
A/F here today (day early!) so have started on the pill and need to call clinic tomorrow.

There have been so many up and downs and misadventures on this particular thread over the last 6 months - I think I need a bit of a dose of good inspiration!

Already Blessed and Kimmy - you already have at least one DD or DS right? How many times did you have to try again to get another positive?

I am just figuring how completely improbable it would be to have had the luck to have had the BFP that gave us our beautiful daughter followed by one failed FET . . but THEN another positive BFP (with the unfortunate m/c . . . but a BFP) . . . . I mean what is the likely hood of this being followed up by ANOTHER BFP on my next go!!!??? I am not a gambler - but if I was putting odds on this I'd say they are super unlikely! Right? Am already getting in a tiz obviously!!

M

[joyanna]

Hi everyone

Just popping in to say hello.

Alreadyblessed and Kimmysq - hope you are both keeping well. Alreadyblessed - has the bleeding stopped? Kimmysq - I hope that you are ok with the m/s and hope that it settles down soon.

Melo_p - I wish you all the luck in the world with this cycle. I can totally understand your need for inspiration. It takes guts to try again after what you have been through. My inspiring words are you have done it once, you can do it again!!!!!! I know people have lots of ivf tips and you'd go mad listening to it all but a friend of mine has had 5 ivf failures in a row and is starting her 6th and final ivf attempt. She lives in London and has been to the zita west clinic (www.zitawest.com). they provide nutritional advice and recommend acp and hypnotherapy for ivf support. Anyway, to cut a long story short, they have told her to invest in hypnotherapy cds to try and stop the 'panic and negative thoughts' from her past ivf failures. So she has a variety of cds .....really around relaxation, positive thinking and then there is a specific ivf one (this is a zita west one). I think I am going to try this for my next round of ivf because I was just so stressed out last time and it just cannot be good. So from now on all I am going to say to you is that YOU CAN DO IT! Big hugs and keep in touch.

[Melo_P]

Oh dear! Looks like we losing this thread - so just pulling it back up! I might have to find new peeps to go through IVF with!

Anyone out there? What are you guys upto?

I am starting down regulation drugs (I think??) on Monday - it is all going very fast already! Am trying to figure out the days exactly - and looks like my DD's 2nd birthday is going to be smack bang in middle of either collection and or transfer! Argh! Hopefully we will at least get that far. I have to remember there are heaps of hurdles to get through before even getting to egg collection - am getting a bit ahead of myself!
M

[zoegirl]

Hi there,
It's been a while since I've been on the boards, but I'd like to join this discussion! We have one IVF baby boy born October 2007, and are now starting the preliminary testing for a second baby. I had a surprise last week on my day 3 testing - my FSH was 15. I'm only 36! But I read that even women in their 20's can have low ovarian reserve. THey said it will possibly go down next month, but that it would have to go down closer to 10 again before they would do a cycle. with my eggs. We have no frozen embryos from teh last try, so we are starting from scratch. Hoping to start stimming in November.
An additional complication is the restless leg syndrome I developed at week 20 of my pregnancy - it never went away, and I am seeing a new doc about it . . . Anyway, this neurologist thinks he can resolve my problem with intravenous Iron, but I am waiting for the Iron results still before he can be sure. If it is not iron, then I have to decide if I want to take codeine during a first trimester in order to get some sleep. RLS is really evil and tends to get worse with each pregancy, so it is a concern . . . However, the drive to try to have another is very strong - I love having sisters and want to give my son a brother or sister if possible.

[suzhan]

Hi all - hope e1 is doing well.

Melo - best of luck with the down regging and then onto the stims! You'll be at ER/ET before you know it. Wishing you all the best in this cycle.

Zoe - welcome to the group. I bet you were shocked to get the fsh level but I really hope it will come down as they say. I've never heard of rls in pregnancy but I can only imagine how uncomfortable that would be. I hope your neurologist can help get that into order for you.

Joyanna - hope the 40th went splendidly and that you're doing well.

As for me, it took me until CD 27 to "O" post the ivf cycle last month - ugh - so I've got a least a couple more weeks until we can start bcp's/down regging again. And, I'm worried about how that will fall with the holidays and all - I really don't want to postpone much longer given my age....so, I'm keeping everything crossed the dates work out. Of course, I still hold out a shred of hope that this month we might have gotten 'lucky' and could possible get pg naturally, but I know that's a real long shot.

Take care e1 - -

[Melo_P]

Hi All

Welcome Zoe - great - it looks like we might almost be cycling together! The first year goes fast doesn't it! We started thinking about number two when our DD Maia was 7 months old - and before I know it she is almost 2! Well here is to hoping and praying hard that her brother or sister gets here before she is in school uniform!

Suzhan - great to see your trying again too. What is CD and 0? Hope you get to get started soon. I kind of wanted to wait a bit longer - but with the hols in all I figured if I didn't just get going this cycle - I'd have to wait until after hols too. Hopefully you'll start in next few weeks too then!

Have prep appointment at clinic tomorrow - where they remind me how to go about sticking needles into myself for the next wee while!

Am already trying not to get stressed that they have strongly recommended only one embryo going back - and the fact I am on practically the lowest dosage of drugs (same as last time - despite fact I am now 3 years old and definitely fatter and less healthy!!) Oh dramas! With the way I constantly question EVERYTHING they do at the clinic - am sure they probably tempted to put a harrassment order out on me!


How is everyone else?

M