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Update:

Situation seems to have changed. Went to the bathroom and found quite obvious spotting. Very dark brown. I usually get that before my period. I'll continue with the progesterone of course, but it doesn't look too bright right now.

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Sophie, sweetie, try not to get too down about the spotting, it could be just a thing, or just one of your embies. I've still got PMA for you honey. As far as your mind set, TRUST me I have been there and worse. I can't tell you how to push through it because I honestly don't know how I did, but just know you can lean on us.
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Oh Sophie im so sorry i hope it isnt what you think but we all know our own bodies ...like christine say's we are all here if you need us

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Post by ag817 »

Hi Everyone ..

I'm really not handling this negative too well.. i can't get myself together and to make matters worse it's my hubb's b-day .. i just tried to distract myself by baking him a cake but I keep loosing it.

Sophie -- hope things are ok for you ..

Hey to everyone else .. going to keep this short

Talk to everyone later

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Post by arizonakiwi »

Hi Sophie,

I'm sorry if I can't give you any advice to make the next couple of days any easier - I can only imagine how difficult the last week of the 2ww is.

You want to protect your self from any hurt and disappointment as well as keeping the PMA and excitement that this is the beginning of a new adventure.

You have been so strong and supportive to so many people here and it is ok to feel scared and afraid yourself - even just acknowledging it giving your self permission (like you did) to feel frightened is ok –

I am sure you are a strong and independent person and sometimes it is hard to let go and feel afraid and vulnerable sometimes. What we are all doing is something thing really big and life changing - do you remember waiting for exams results and hoping you were going to pass, there is no easy we to make the unknown any easier.

I hope this will help with the next couple of days and please forgive me if anything I say here isn't helpful - but for me waiting for the last 4 years I have tried to hold onto the thought that when we finally have our child we will not be able to imagine he/she being any other than who they are and if we had been able to have a child any earlier we wouldn't have the darling baby I hope we will eventually end up with.

If you get the BFP you are hoping for in a couple of days this was your child and your time - if it isn't - try to hold onto the thought there is a darling little baby that isn't quite ready to grow and develop and sometime over the next few months it may be the right time.

Also tonight share your fears with your sweetheart - this is the time you can depend on him, curling up and having a good cry with him, sharing your fears and your dreams.

This is something you really want - and is so hard not being able to do anything at this stage to change the outcome, write a letter to yourself about how you are feeling – just writing things down and reading things back can often make you feel able to understand how you are feeling.

Hang in there, sending you lots of hugs and I hope your cold eases soon also.

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Anita,

Sweetie, you have every right to feel this way, even on DH's b-day. The best advise I can offer, is wish him a happy b-day and then let him wrap his arms around you. Grieve together and celebrate his b-day on a different day. You need this time and I'm sure he is hurting too.

Hugs to honey, i hope your dreams do come true.
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Hi Anita

I am so sorry - hold onto the thought there is a darling little baby that isn't quite ready to grow and develop yet - your time will come.

tcbalgord's advice sounds good - be there for each other and it is ok to feel upset.

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Oh Anita im so sorry you are handling it, it takes time i do know how you feel my last BFN was on my hubby's 40th b'day we waited and went out with friends on the weekend afterwards still wasnt easy but id had a few days...please dont be hard on yourself you do need to grieve through this ...we will always be here to listen ...

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Hey guys,

Aunty, tcbalgord, ag, thanks for the sweet thoughts. *hugs*

I know that the spotting is not good, but not necessarily a sign that everything is over. I know that it could just be old blood dripping out for no particular reason. I'm probably not losing a twin, the blood is too dark for that. But in the eventuality that the bleeding intensifies tomorrow, it might just be that. Who knows? For the record, Aunty, I don't trust my body at all. With all the meds that are running through it, it just can't be trusted because its messages are bound to be misleading.

Arizonakiwi: sweetheart, sweet soul, you obviously took a long time to write that post and I really, really thank you for the time you devoted to it. *mwah* You are right, I am a strong and independent person, but I'm not the type who keeps things inside, however, or the type who hates crying. I do let my emotions out and let myself feel vulnerable. I just try to choose the people I'm vulnerable with. Not always possible, but eh.

I am not scared. If I'm losing my babies, I'm losing my babies. I'm angry. I'm angry because as this is happening and I'm preparing to have the confirmation of a BFN in two days, I think of that resident who empaled my uterus on a stick and robbed me of my fertility. Part of me forgave her long ago, part of me forgave her some more after my surgery... what's left will never be able to forgive I'm afraid.

Yeah, it's unfair for all of us to be in this situation. But "unfair" has a name in my case: it's Catherine.

And I hate her so much for what she's done to me!

As for my husband, when I told him about the spotting, he hugged me and kissed me, and kissed me some more, and after a couple of kisses I pushed him away gently. I don't need to be kissed right now. He's good at being a steady presence in difficult times but he's still struggling to master the art of active listening. He probably just feels very powerless and I really think he wants to wait till Sunday to make conclusions... and I guess that includes making me verbalize on what I'm going through. I'll wait, and if it doesn't come, so be it. I'll do active talking and he, passive listening. It's better than nothing. That is, if there is something to be said at that point.

I just wish this wouldn't drag over several days like that, having the sad news given to me little by little, sign after sign... I just wish I had my irrevocable confirmation right now, one way or the other.

But wishing won't change the situation. So I'll just clench my teeth and carry on with my life till Sunday morning. Even if it is a BFP, it will be a very bittersweet one. I have Catherine to thank for that.

Good night girls. You're the best. The spotting seems to have stopped for now. There is still a part of me that's hoping, don't worry.

Hugs,

Sophie
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oh sophie - hunny, it breaks my heart to hear you are struggling with this. as for your comment earlier about comments made by many of us about BFPs i can completely understand where you're coming from. so i'm sorry for any hurt we've caused...it must be so hard to find the right balance...staying positive but preparing yourself for the worst....anyway, we are all here for you hunny to vent any emotions you are feeling. i'm not surprised you are angry and i think you have every right to be...

prepare yourself for the worst but i have seen people writing on here that brown blood is better than red...i'm not trying to give you false hopes but just facts...anyway, we'll all be here tomorrow when you get your results...whether its good or bad...

big hugs and kisses!!!

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anita - i'm so sorry to hear you are struggling...it must be so difficult so please dont be too hard on yourself. i think tc has good advice - maybe you could celebrate dh's birthday on another day? big hugs and thinking of you!!

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Good morning guys,

First of all, I want to say THANK YOU for all of you who pmed me. I'll give personal replies in a bit, just let me prepare for work and I'll be all yours.

I slept well last night. After I sent my post I went to the bedroom and broke down in tears. My husband was there. He didn't say much, but he hugged and caressed, and it helped. As for me, I vented. I just wish I didn't have to go through that state again tomorrow. I think keeping my hopes low will protect me a little bit at least. Ironically, the headache came back full force! ;) It's gone this morning, thankfully! hehehe with that stuffy nose from the cold, intense crying doesn't help the sinuses! :D

This morning, still the same spotting. It's really old blood. And when I put the pressies in, sorry if TMI but, contrary to yesterday evening, well... it looked like it might not bleed anymore. But of course that's early to tell; I'll see how my panty liner looks during the day.

I made a quick search and found this on an ivf website. Thought I'd share:

I have spotted, and it is not time for my period. Was it implantation spotting?
Implantation spotting is the exception rather than the rule. Sometimes the procedures themselves can irritate the cervix and cause light brown spotting afterwards. Sometimes when the uterus shifts from being estrogen to progesterone dominant you will get a little bit of spotting. Light spotting can be normal, but contact your physician with any concerns.

My breasts are tender, or I have cramps, or am irritable, nauseated, or bloated, or, I am gaining a small amount of weight. It is not yet time for my pregnancy test. Could these be signs of pregnancy?
You are probably feeling the effects of the hormones you are taking. It's really too early to be feeling anything as a result of a pregnancy. Implantation normally takes place about 5-10 dpo, but even after that it takes a couple of days for the hCG (which is what causes pregnancy symptoms) to build up in the blood stream. The presence of these symptoms does not indicate pregnancy, and the absence of them does not indicate a failed cycle.

So, there ya go! Time to hop in the shower, get prepared, and have breakfast!

Take care ladies, and I wish you a wonderful weekend!

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and is it me or does the "how did you tell DH the good news" thread belongs in the "pregnant after treatment" section? Don't know for you, but I feel a little pang of pain each time I stumble on it. :?

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oh Sophie i thought that i didnt want to seem mean but ???? with so many of us trying to steady ourselves for our outcomes it pangs a bit yes

i kept you in my prayers, not sure if this helps but i have heard others that are on pesseries having bleeding and one lady was told the pesseries them selves can cause some bleeding...im not going to do all the usual like you say it doesnt really help but i am thinking of you and praying for your test

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