Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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Re: Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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CONGRATS Tammy!! I knew this was going to be a lucky board! So funny you saying Teresa is patient, but you didn't tell your husband this morning. After I got my BFP on a POAS I immediately shook my husband awake (at 4am) to show him! :) I only got a little creative with my in-laws since he was their first grandchild. When my husband's family was all together for MIL's birthday dinner I gave her a card "To Grandma" signed "Baby X - See you in November!" I'll have to think of some more creative ideas for this cycle. :D Did you do the calculation to figure out when your due date will be?
Me: 33
DH: 35 (CBAVD)

IVF #1 (1): BFN
FET #1 (2): BFN
IVF #2 (2): BFP!! DS born 10/24/09
FET #2 (2): BFN
FET #3 (2): 11/21/12 -- GO TEAM B!! :)

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good morning beautiful ladies!!

i'm gonna try to do some overdue personals....

tammy OMG OMG OMG!!! i cant believe you POAS so early, but i am so so soooooo happy you got your BFP!!!! wooooooooooooohooooooooooo!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D oh hun i am so happy for you! you've been through so much over the past 6 months...there is NO way you will be able to keep this a secret for 2 more days hahaha :lol:
i love all of your ideas about telling everyone the news, but i think you should tell bill first. let it be a private memory you will have forever. i've had my "how to tell DH i'm pregnant" plan for a million years...hopefully i can use it soon, but IVF kinda takes the surprise out of it all...i'm gonna do it anyway though, and if you like it you can use it too! I am going to make it a food thing...since DH loves food so much haha. i always planned on having it set up for when he got home from work, and have all sort of "baby" food ready...ya know...baby back ribs, baby corn, baby peas...well thats all i can think of right now, but then i'd make him figure out the theme! i played this moment over and over in my mind for years, but once IVF became so difficult for us i stopped thinking about it...it made me too sad. anyway...no time to be debbie downer...i'm too happy for YOU!!!! XOXOXOXO :D oh and i'm soooo glad you got your keyboard fixed...i missed you!!

ryann your RE is making me soooo mad!! anyway there really is nothing you can do about it now..its in the past, and we have to move on and focus on your BFP ok?? 4 embies is a hard number to figure out...i can understand why you are thinking about it so much. DH was just talking about it yesterday when we first thought we had 4 embies and not 5...he was like "what would we do? if we put back 3 what would we do with just one extra embie? what if it didnt make it to freeze? then we would just be killing it" and i said...but putting back 4 scares the bejesus outta me! you have some time to think about it, and i know you will do whats best for you. you have to learn from what happened, and become stronger and stand up for what you feel is right in all of this!! xoxo

wondercat i'm so sorry about DH missing his chance. i think its pretty rude for them to call and want to interview and just because he couldnt be there RIGHT NOW, to move on to someone else without even giving him the chance to interview. he didnt want to work for such a crappy business anyway!!
ya know...when you were telling us about your boss and co-worker i had evil envisions of me becoming that bitter from all of this IVF crap. i already turn green with envy anytime i see a happy family walk by me. last year there was this 18 year old girl that was pregnant at my work (of course it was an accident) and i couldnt even look at her without wanting to punch her in the face (this wasnt good since i was her boss)...she was horrible...she would chain smoke on her brakes...right out in the front of the building!! she didnt even try to hide it! then one of her friends would always come to pick her up, and she told me she was pregnant 3 times and had abortions (she was also 18)! they would always ask me why i didnt have kids at such an old age (i was 32!!!!) and i would say "i'm working on it...sometimes its not that easy" and the friend would always say that she would have a baby for me...ummmmmmm no THANK YOU!! so i'm sure to these lil girls i was a big ol annoying jealous *****. i'm not saying it gives them the right to be mean to you (especially since they know you had to go through IVF to have your DS) but that being said, you never really know what other people have been though. nobody knows how horrible this past year has been for me, and why ive changed so much so i'm sure people think i've lost my mind. dont take it personally (i know thats hard) but try to remember their attitudes are probably from years of pain.
as for bring DS to the clinic...well to be honest it would actually upset me. it wouldnt have a year ago going through my first cycle..back when i still liked people, but after a year of failed cycles the last place i want to see another "happy family" is when i'm pumped up on drugs and stressing out if i will get canceled each day. if you want to show off your DS to the nurses i would call ahead and go in during a slow part of the day.

chili ive been going crazy thinking of you all day yesterday....well i was going crazy for myself already so i just added thinking about you to my list of craziness! i hope you are doing well...i cant wait to hear how many eggs you got!! xoxo

tiger i think a break is the best idea for you...and what a trip you have planned!! being a travel writer, and in the hospitality business i love hearing about new exciting places. ive never been to costa rica, and like you and most of us, our big vacation trips have been put on hold for years now. our idea of vacations now are weekend getaways, and trips to our parents houses...soooo romantic right??? it will be soooooo nice to have something fun to google and plan that isnt about "spotting, success rates, and implantation charts" please stick around and tell me all about the plans you are making!! i am a travel dork, and want to hear about all the fun things you will be planning!! xoxo

katie claudia and gi thank you all for crashing in on me! i cant believe how close you all are to seeing your babies!! i'm so excited for you all! i miss you all tons, but i hope i'm not still over on this side by the time you are all ready for baby #2!! oh and i cant believe hazel is about to pop!! please send her my love on the other side ok?? i love you girls soooo much...you know that right???? :D :D

teresa how are you doing?? isnt the 2nd week so much worse then the first week during the 2ww?? it is killer for me. try to keep busy ok?? and i know tammy is crazy and poas, and wants you to join her, i say dont do it!!!!! haha love you tons sweetie!! xoxo

annashope, amanda, rio, kbillsy, lauren, lauren thank you all for woooohoooing for me and cheering me on!! you are all amazing, and you fill my heart with love and joy!! :D :D

everyone else (i know i'm still forgetting a bunch of you, i'm sorry) i am thinking of you all and cheering you on!! xoxo

afm i got the call this morning, and they are moving my ET to TOMORROW!!! i asked the nurse how the lil ones looked and she said they dont give her the updates. i said...but if they are moving me to tomorrow thats gotta be good right? and she said "thats always a great thing!" :D :D
they are going to call me after 3pm today with the time to go in tomorrow. i cant believe i am having a 3dt like a normal person!! i'm excited, but very calm...i think i'm still in shock, and its all just a crazy dream! grow embies grow!! last night i went outside in my backyard and looked up at the beautiful clear star filled sky, and talked to my embies! i said "mommy loves you all very much, and even though you are in a different sate right now, you will be home safe soon. i promise i will do everything i can to make a good home for you so you need to hang on and grow up strong so you can snuggle into your mama soon"! ok typing that out makes me sound like a crazy person!!
oh and BTW..these suppositories are GROSS!! how can i be getting all the meds i need when i feel like its all leaking out?? is it ok? do you think i'm getting enough of the meds absorbing in my system? oh and does anyone else feel crampy from them or is it still from the ER??
i will let you all know when i get the official time for my transfer tomorrow!
i hope you all have a beautiful day!

****much love always****
~ Franny
me-35- stage 4 endo
DH-30- perfect
TTC for 5 years
1+2 IVF 2009- both cxl
3rd IVF Jan. 2010- BFN
4th IVF April 2010- BFN
5th IVF July 2010-BFN
6TH IVF Sept 2010- BFN
moving on to donor embies
FET Feb 2012-BFN
FET Jun 2012- Here we go again!
TammyS
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Re: Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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Franny...Yayy for a 3dt!!! Woohooo!!! This is your time...FINALLY!!! Ask again this afternoon when they call back. You dont sound like a crazy person...either that or I'm crazy too...cause I talk to them too...and say almost exactly the same thing. lol :wink:
Very cute way of telling your DH, except that mine would never get it. lol We have Zach's 2 yr pics tonight...so eating out after, too.

Wondercat...Yeah, I cant believe that I have been able to keep it from him this long already. lol With sooo much going on in the next 2 days...it wont be too hard though...if I do wait. My due date would be my birthday May 30th...or right around that date anyways. However, since I have a vertical cut uterine incision...I will have to deliver no later than May 2nd...which is the day I lost my FET baby. Weird, huh?
Me~42/DH~48
3 IUI
IVF 1~1.28.08 Zach
IVF 2~4.5.10 M/C
IVF 3~8.6.10 BFN
IVF 4~9.5.10 M/C
IVF 5~10.30.10 BFN
IVF 6~11.29.10 M/C
IVF 7~2.3.11 M/C
IVF 8~Cancelled
End of the road

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Re: Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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Tammy - If it's not too personal, what is the difference with that kind of incision and why did you get that kind? Why is it so much riskier? I had a c-section - primarily because I had PROM and the OB on call is a major douchebag - and have been looking into the benefits vs. risks of VBAC.
Me: 33
DH: 35 (CBAVD)

IVF #1 (1): BFN
FET #1 (2): BFN
IVF #2 (2): BFP!! DS born 10/24/09
FET #2 (2): BFN
FET #3 (2): 11/21/12 -- GO TEAM B!! :)

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Uterine incisions are normally horizontal...why she cut me vertically was because Zach's heart rate was dropping and she was in a rush to get him out at 35 weeks. I was induced for 4 days...after having low amniotic fluid and being sent straight to the hospital from my high risk MFM...and everything was going fine...so they allowed an induction so I could avoid the c-section...but after 4 days they broke my water and gave me an epidural, and then his heart rate dropped. Anyhow, due to the vertical cut...any kind of contractions or pressure on my uterus could cause my uterus to rupture killing us both unless I can get to an operating table in under 18 minutes or so. Vbac with a regular horizontal cut is dangerous too...my friend from my local mommys board found out the hard way...they were already on the operating table when she ruptured and it still almost killed them both. The reason they wont let me go past 36 weeks...is to take the baby out before the weight of the baby gets too heavy and before there are any contractions. My pregnancy will be extremely high risk. Since I had low amniotic fluid before...it is likely I wont even make it to 36 weeks again. Also, I had GD sooo bad that I was on major amounts of insulin by 12 weeks...I tested a couple of days ago...and everything was perfect. Since I never had any BH or regular contractions with Zachary...and my body doesnt know how to go into labor even after 4 days of induced labor (pitocin at full strength, cervadil, cytotec)...I am confident that everything will be okay with the baby and me. Our nearest hospital is about 5-7 minutes away. Vertical cuts just dont heal as well and are weaker...and can rupture more easily than horizontal cuts. My incision on the outside is horizontal.
Me~42/DH~48
3 IUI
IVF 1~1.28.08 Zach
IVF 2~4.5.10 M/C
IVF 3~8.6.10 BFN
IVF 4~9.5.10 M/C
IVF 5~10.30.10 BFN
IVF 6~11.29.10 M/C
IVF 7~2.3.11 M/C
IVF 8~Cancelled
End of the road

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Wow, it sounds like you had a pretty difficult pregnancy. I had mega, painful BH for over 2 months - as in, they were as strong as my friend's were when she asked for an epidural! :shock: My body most definitely knows how to go into labor, and did so 3 weeks before my due date. I to this day don't believe my CS we necessary and have a lot of anger towards that doctor. First, I didn't like him because he dismissed me out of hand when I had a large, painful ovarian cyst. Poked my abdomen a couple times and said there was nothing there or he would have felt it. Two days later an u/s proved him wrong. Naturally he was the one on call when my water broke, home alone at midnight... And it took 2 hours and 2 phone calls before he bothered to call me back. Then the whole time I was in labor the nurses would rush in periodically because "the heart rate is dropping!" only to discover that the monitor had slipped and/or wasn't functioning properly. The doctor used scare tactics on my mother and husband, then basically told me he was refusing to help me deliver naturally. After I caved in, he very "generously" allowed me to push for an hour on the operating table, but only if I would agree to stop all of my pain medication. Interestingly enough with the different monitor in the OR Sean's heart rate didn't drop once during that entire hour. I found out later this doctor has given that same ultimatum to several other women, usually near the end of his shift ! And he was so delighted to tell me in my follow-up appointment how much easier it will be for me since at this hospital I now have to have a scheduled c-section for any subsequent deliveries. Never mind the fact that I now also have to worry more about uterine rupture during my entire pregnancy let alone the delivery, especially with a history of very strong BH contractions and PROM. Does it even need to get said that I am going to be looking into delivering at another hospital next time around?
Me: 33
DH: 35 (CBAVD)

IVF #1 (1): BFN
FET #1 (2): BFN
IVF #2 (2): BFP!! DS born 10/24/09
FET #2 (2): BFN
FET #3 (2): 11/21/12 -- GO TEAM B!! :)

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Tammy - OMG OMG OMG! I am so so very excited for you!!! I can't wait to hear how you tell everyone!

Franny - THIS IS IT! AND A DAY LATER!!!! WOOHOO! I can't wait for your BFP!!!!

Lots of love!
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Wondercat...I am sooo pist off at your doctor and hospital...that is just truely awful. I hope you filed a complaint...because it certainly justifies it.

Tiger...I just put Zach's Big Brother shirt on him as I was putting him down for a nap. When Bill gets home at 2pm...he'll be getting him up to get him ready for his 2 yrs old pictures...while I am getting ready. Sooo hopefully he'll notice the shirt...but you know how men can be. lol :roll: :wink:
Me~42/DH~48
3 IUI
IVF 1~1.28.08 Zach
IVF 2~4.5.10 M/C
IVF 3~8.6.10 BFN
IVF 4~9.5.10 M/C
IVF 5~10.30.10 BFN
IVF 6~11.29.10 M/C
IVF 7~2.3.11 M/C
IVF 8~Cancelled
End of the road

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Re: Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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Hi everyone,
I see some of you will cycle on november so I will join in, I did my first IVF on 2008 and now have twin boys, I went for a FET in august-september and just got my beta yesterday, it was only 14 (12dp5dt), I am so sad, I thought this time around was going to be easier, but it is very hard, although the kisses and hugs from my boys sure help a lot =)... the doctor still has me on meds and I have to repeat the beta tomorrow but I now my chances are slim. Is it possible that it is an ectopic, I am very scared of that. I think it is a chemical pregnancy since I tested 8dp5dt and got a faint positive.
I want to try again in november if this don´t work since I have snowbabies left, it will be very hard because I am from Costa Rica and can not do IVF here, so I will have to travel again to California, but this time we can not afford to take the babies, so 3 weeks without them will be soooo hard to do.
Hope everyone is doing great, I have read some good news lately, I have happy wishes for all of us,

Ana
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Tammy - I'm going to tell you on this thread too, but SO happy for you! I got my BFP at 8dp3dt also and it came up quickly, within a min. I took one everyday to see it get darker and it did. Sooo...who knows?? Could be multiples, could just be a strong beta, but either way, I'll be praying for a happy & healthy pregnancy!

Franny - 3DT!!!!! So happy for you!! Praying this is the one (or more)!
Me - 30
DH - 38
DS - 5 (adopted, Russia), DD 3 (adopted, Kyrgyzstan)
IVF 1-2: BFN
IVF 3: BFP!!
Beta 1: 905 14dp3dt, Beta 2: 1709 16dp3dt
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Congratulations! I could not be happier for you, that is incredible, twins? I think it is great you are telling Bill first! What a cute way of doing this! I can't wait for the number! 500s, 1000s? WOOOO HOOO now sprinkle me with some of that BFP dust girl!!!!!!!!!!!

Franny- how incredible to go to 3 day transfer - woohoo, are you transfering all? What protocol did you use? Grow babies - grow!!!!
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Franny- So happy that you get to do a 3dt this time it seems like you have had a perfect cycle this round. I dont think you are crazy for talking to your embies, because I hold my tummy (not that there is a bump to hold) and do the samething. I havent felt a whole lot different and what I do feel I think is just from the PIO. I've been very tired the last three days, I've had a couple of cramps, and have felt like crying all morning for no reason. I keep having dreams that I go to the bathroom and there is lots of blood and clots when I wipe or that I fall and land on my stomach. I guess I'm just still pretty scared that this cycle will result in a BFN from me again.

Tammy- Yay yay YAY for your BFP!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Its funny that you think I'm being patient and strong by not POAS. I was at the store last night and had to use all my self control not to buy some tests. The only way I kept myself from doing it is by saying that I would wait to see if you got a BFP today and if you did then I could buy some. So, now I will have to find another way to convence myself to wait. I think your idea to tell Bill is cute and since he has to change Zach I'm sure he will notice the shirt. I'm so happy for you guys!

Wondercat- Wow I cant believe that doctor was so forceful and made it seem like such an emergency that you needed a c-section. I recently watched a movie called "The Business of Being Born" and it talks about these same issues. I thought it was very informative and made me realize that me and my OB will have to be very clear on what I want in my birth plan or I will go to a midwife instead.

ana- I'm sorry that your fist beta came in so low but dont lose hope yet. Sometimes it just depends on when those little babies decided to implant. Plus since you had such great results with your first IVF (ps your sons are soooo cute) I'm sure you will be blessed again, if not this cycle then the next.

Chili- How are you doing? I'm thinking and praying about you!

Victoria- How are you feeling today? Wishing you much luck with your beta tomorrow
~TERESA
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2 IUIs-BFN
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tammy i'm so excited you're gonna tell bill today!! i knew you couldnt keep it in!! haha! i cant wait to hear all about his reaction, and i'd love to see a pic of zach in his big bro shirt!! :D

for those of you who asked me about what my protocol was this cycle i'm gonna tell you...but first i'm gonna share how it took me to get to this protocol..

ivf #1- long lupron protocol (this is the generic protocol most RE's start with)
cycle canceled due to over suppression.

ivf #2- lupron microflare cycle
cycle canceled due to a dominant follie that went from 12mm to 20mm over night leaving all the other follies too far behind to catch up. i have no idea why this happened, and nobody was ever able to tell me what caused this.

ivf #3- antagonist protocol with no BCP's
made it to ER, and got 1 egg. transferred back 1 perfect 4 cell 2 day embie....BFN

ivf #4- antagonist protocol after 7 weeks of non stop BCP's
made it to ER, and got 1 egg. transferred back 1 perfect 4 cell 2day embie....BFN

after this cycle my RE told me that i would need to go to donor eggs because there was nothing else they could do for me. DH didnt want to so we decided to find a new RE. when we met with the new RE in may they said we could start at the beginning of august because they needed us to get a bunch of new tests done that my old RE never needed, and then we were going out of town.
while getting all of the new labs and stuff done for the new RE, my old RE called and said that after talking it over with the other doctors in the clinic that they would let me try one more cycle with my own eggs so that i could have peace of mind knowing i did all i could so i could move on to donor....geee thanks! well we could do it right away so we decided to stay one last time with the old RE so we wouldnt be waiting around from may until august doing nothing...soooo..

ivf #5- antagonist protocol with BCP's (mostly just for timing because i was out of town in june for a wedding)
made it to ER, and got 2 eggs!! transferred back 2 perfect 4 cell day 2 embies...BFN

having 2 embies that cycle got our hopes up and we were destroyed when we got our BFN! none the less i called my new RE the day after our bad news and told them i was ready to start my cycle.

ivf #6- estrogen primming antagonist protocol without BCP's
on cycle day one in august i called my RE. i had to test for my LH surge and call them. when i got my surge i waited 10 days and then started estrogen patches and changed them every other day until i got AF. (the estrogen was going to trick my body into thinking it was young, so it would produce antral follies)
day 2 i started high doses of stims (follistim and menopur) as well as keeping my estrogen patch on.
i stimmed for 12 days and triggered.
made it to ER and got 7 eggs! 5 fertilized, and we are now doing a 3dt tomorrow!! how many we transfer, and our outcome...TBA!!

so thats been my year. one whole year of my life obsessed with IVF. i dont know what the outcome of this cycle will be, but it proves that you need to be your own advocate, and even though i stumbled every now and then, i never gave up hope on my dream to be a mom.
if this cycle doesnt work DH and i decided to move on to donor embies!
there are always options out there....never give up!!
i know there is noway i could've gotten this far without so many of you amazing woman. i am blessed to have you all in my life!

****much love always****
~ Franny
me-35- stage 4 endo
DH-30- perfect
TTC for 5 years
1+2 IVF 2009- both cxl
3rd IVF Jan. 2010- BFN
4th IVF April 2010- BFN
5th IVF July 2010-BFN
6TH IVF Sept 2010- BFN
moving on to donor embies
FET Feb 2012-BFN
FET Jun 2012- Here we go again!
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Re: Fall 2010 Cycle Group

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Teresa...I need your mailing address...I am going to personally send you some hpt's! LOL You crack me up! :lol:

Rio...sending you and everyone all of my BFP dust.

Babyluv...1 or 2 would be terrific!

Ana...Welcome to our board. I remember you. I am hoping and praying that you just had a late implanter. Please let us know when you get your beta tomorrow...we are pulling for you! Good Luck!

Franny...I'll have to take a picture later of him in his shirt. I am sooo hopeful for you this cycle...you have been through sooo much!

Well...
I changed my mind just a bit...still doing the shirt but I am also doing this...LOL.
I got some window markers the other day for the back door for each holiday...and I used a page from his Elmo birthday coloring book to trace it (I'm not that artistic, lol). He is having an Elmo party and we are having him color pages for his Thank You cards and then I'll write something on each one from him. Anyhow, I kinda like the way it came out...except that the cake had 3 candles on it and I only realized after I finished that I should have made it with only 2 candles. Duh! Kinda afraid to try to fix it now. So hopefully Bill will notice the back door when he comes home. lol The guests will notice on Saturday. What ya think?

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Me~42/DH~48
3 IUI
IVF 1~1.28.08 Zach
IVF 2~4.5.10 M/C
IVF 3~8.6.10 BFN
IVF 4~9.5.10 M/C
IVF 5~10.30.10 BFN
IVF 6~11.29.10 M/C
IVF 7~2.3.11 M/C
IVF 8~Cancelled
End of the road

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franny- thanks for sharing your portocol. Shows that persistance pays. I am too starting my cycle with a new RE and she wants an antagonist with no BCP but adding Femara so hopefully I will get lots of embibabies! are you going to be aggressive in transfering them all?

Tammy -love the door - you are very artistic just be prepared for Bill not to notice anything ;) men... :) I can't imagine how excited you must be right now and I can't wait to be in your shoes, this waiting is tough, I want my BFP!!! :) keep those multiples cozy!
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