May/June Cycle Buddies

[Literatriz]

Dear all,
I am a psychologist, too...
and a second language learner. My first language is Portuguese.
The last line of my previous message describes the nidification as the egg "buried" within the endometrius. This work doesn't translate well to English. It may signify my worries and fears, though. Because we are the ones hoping for life after having experienced it's absence somehow.

So, let me rephrase it: I am not sure if I come back the day after the possible transfer, carrying my precious floaties or if I get all pampered by mom until they are securely nested within a cradle of arteries....

One more thing: Dad has to come back - what do you thinK? He said he wants the best chances for the babies...doesnt' want to voice his preference. Do you think his presence would psychologically help?
Oh, I am confused...

Thanks for reading!!!! Be well!

[TansRN]

Hello Ladies.

Literatriz
I was just thinking the same thing. My boys and I planted some Marigolds in tiny containers and we put tons of seeds in the pot and only some of them sprouted. I did everything I could-place them in the light and water them and it is just like us. Funny we share the same thoughts.

Nimble
That is so awesome! WOW I can't believe it! Congratulations! I am so happy for you and i know that you must be on cloud nine!

Jovigal
I know what you mean about the house situation. I want everything in its place. I have been a little cranky lately. Must be all the hormones! LOL

Yeah Jenn
You ahve 6 ready to go! Woo Hoo. I think that it is awesome! Arent you so happy?

Sophie
I like it here as well. It is my safe haven to come and say what is on my mind and to get and give encouragement. We all can't be "on" every day ya know? It really helps.

Marsxp
That is so great. I am happy for you and your little souveniers sounds wonderful. I love having the photos of my em-babies! I really do. I look at them all the time in wonder.

[My2LnT]

Nimble - Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy belated mothers day.

[arizonakiwi]

Nimble – Wow congratulations, what an awesome surprise. You bought a huge smile to my face.

Sophie – Thank you for sending through all that info, I’m going to have a read through it once I’ve sent this.

Jovigal – Glad you are finding things to keep busy over the next week – the 7 days will pass before you know it

Steph – thanks for your kind words, I hope your day at work passed quickly

Jenn – isn’t it great to see your eggs in the scan – it makes it all a little more real

Marsxp – Congratulations on getting a picture, what a perfect start to your family album.

Literatriz – What a lovely story about your seeds, it put everything in perspective for me. I hope you have a lovely anniversary. A few extra days pampering with your mum sounds lovely and relaxing

Tanya – another day down…… 1 day closer….

My blood test today was a little high but still ok. I have another scan and blood test tomorrow morning, hopefully my little ones have been growing nicely and fingers crossed I’ll be able to trigger tomorrow night.

Love to you all

Angela

[TansRN]

Hey Guys
I know that this sounds crazy and all but I just did a POAS with the FRED and I got a faint faint positive!!! I have been checking jsut to see that the trigger has left the building but maybe it isnt anything but I did three tests and they are all faint positives. I thought maybe an evaporation line or something. Yesterdays test was so faint I thought it was just a shadow or something but then this AM it is still fairly faint but a second line in there! I am only 4dp5dt but I know what I am seeing. At least I think I do....Hum. Just more to ponder about. LOL I will go to Wal Mart and buy like 50 more tests to do tomorrow AM!!! It is unreal. I can't believe it. I am thinking all kinds of things at the moment but I wanted to share my deepest thoughts with you guys....my friends!

[nimble]

OMG Tanya that is fantastic news - praying hard that this a great BFP!!!
Keep us posted

nims xx

[PMApsy]

Good afternoon ladies!

How are you doing? I'm doing okay. I haven't had a headache in a while, so it looks like my body finally adapted to Lupron. Yay! And the flu, well, my thoat still aches and I have to blow my nose once in a while, but it's still very mild and it seems like it's going away. Yay again!

Really looking forward to starting that stimming now... counting the injections!

jenn: awwww you're SO sweet! Thank you so much for your comments! I'm really glad that the info I post is useful! That's what I'm hoping for, always! 6 follies, congratulations dear! It's a good number and I'm rooting for them! Grow follies, grow!!! Keep us posted dear!

marsxp: I'm so glad that the ET went well! You're SO LUCKY to have the petri dish cover and the pictuuuuures! Awwwww I wish I could have that! They don't do pics and never offered that petri dish cover... snif snif... Ah, well, I might end up hiding those things anyway. I read somewhere that some experts advise against telling IVF kids how hard it was to become pregnant with them. Some might react by rebelling or others feel extra pressure to be up to their parents' expectations because they were so wanted... still don't know what I'll do, but I might not tell them the whole story. One could indeed feel guilty, knowing what we go through... So after all, what did your doc say about bedrest? Isn't it great to know that those little treasures are in there? Awwww... I hope they settle for an 8 months nap!!!

Literatriz: no, unfortunately, there's nothing you can do to reduce the risk of developing cysts. My ovaries have regularly produced harmless cysts since I was 13 years old. It always goes away with AF. But when you add stimming drugs, it's another story! But I should be fine, like last time. About Lupron, you probably know already that it's a piece of cake. It does not hurt at all. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! So you're a psychologist, too, and in the psychoanalytic approach, according to the nature of your second post. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, dear... I wouldn't read too much into everything. Eh, but I rarely use the psychoanalytic or psychodynamic approach, so... I think your DH's will to cooperate is amazing, but he can't let you make all the decisions. It won't make a difference for the embryos if he's there or not, not at this time, but it will definitely make a difference for you. You will need comfort and support. Most people don't see a problem with mothers flying after ET. But you should ask your doctor, it's a must. It's always more reassuring to follow the advice of a specialist you trust. But I've heard all kinds of stories here... like people doing 1:30 of really bumpy public transportation, standing, right after their ET (coming home from the clinic) and they still got pregnant. And some have flown during their 2ww for work related reasons. Hope that helps.

arizonakiwi: Hello dearest! I'm really glad that the blood test gave you good news! A little high is still good enough! I'm keeping every possible thing crossed for you about triggering tomorrow, even my eyes, which makew itr harwd too tyope corrwectkly!

Tanya! LOL The POAS saga has officially begun it seems! Look... here is what my pharmacist told me when I asked him about HPTs and IVF, and he really knew what he's talking about. Maybe you know all that, but I still wanted to share it. HPTs measure HCG in your urine, of course. It needs to reach a certain level for you to be declared pregnant. Some HPTs will use lower levels, some higher. Some are more sensitive than others, too. However, the HCG is released by your uterus into your bloodstream, and then it is filtered by your kidneys and passes into your urine. So when you do an HPT, you're trying to find a sub-product of a sub-product or a sub-product. That's why so many women test negative at the beginning, because there are only too faint traces of HCG in their urine. The trigger shot (HCG) takes 7 days to be eliminated by your system. So during those 7 days, if you test positive, you must not trust it. He said, though, that if you test positive on an HPT after that 7 days window, then you're most probably pregnant. The reason why they discourage people to do it during their 2ww is because the traces are so faint at that time (if your embies didn't implant, you won't start producing your own HCG), people have much higher chances of a false negative, that is, a negative HPT when they are in fact pregnant. Hence why the blood test, because HCG is released in the bloodstream first. Bottom line is, it's easier to get a false negative than a false positive. Soooo if you keep testing positive, a real one, then you've got your BFP sweetie! You're well beyond that 7 days window now! And since you did ET after 5 days, they probably implanted within 24h. Please keep us posted, this is exciting! I'm keeping everything crossed for you, you professional peeer! LOL

jovigal: thanks for sharing that info with me. I'm not a physician, I'm a cognitive-behavioural psychologist. I do clinical and research work. Right now, I'm juggling with private practice and I work in a hospital in oncology. When my private practice clients are done with therapy, then I'll only work at the hospital. (I'm only starting full time in two weeks, hence the multiple jobs...)

Okay ladies, time for me to go! And update the list of course! Lots'o'love!

Sophie

[PMApsy]

Our proud moms-to-be
Nimble Positive HPT; everything points to a natural pregnancy! Congratulations!

Going through the 2ww

TansRN 2 perfect embies transferred on May 11th, beta May 24th (13dp5dt). Last HPTs showing a faint positive...!
Jovigal 2 perfect embies transferred on May 11th, beta May 21st (10dp3dt).
My2LnT 4 perfect little fighters transferred on May 12th, beta May 24th (12dp3dt).
marsxp 2 perfect embies transferred on May 14th, beta May 26th? (12dp3dt?).

Embryo transfer

gbnut, waiting for FET in a medicated cycle; FET should be around May 17th
mandeeq, waiting for FET in a natural cycle; lining scan on the 18th

Egg retrieval
arizonakiwi Possible EC on May 18th! Hormone levels behaving themselves, hang in there sweetie!

Ovarian stimulation

arizonakiwi started stimming May 3rd, hormone levels looking good, about 10 measurable follies so far, possible trigger on May 16th! Keeping everything crossed! Follies measuring about 13mm; come on eggies, one last effort, you're almost there!
Jenn started stimming May 9th, flare protocol, last scan showed 6 bigger follies, grow follies, grow! Next scan probably on May 16th?
PMApsy starts stimming May 18th(?), blood test May 22nd

Ovarian vacation
Jul1e.... injection on April 19th, scan May 16th
souris.... started downregging April 28th
PMApsy.... started Lupron May 2nd, blood test May 17th
mommytobe.... started Lupron May 8th, blood test May(?)
Literatriz.... started Lupron May 15th
hrobinson.... starts Lupron May 22nd
annag.... starts Lupron May 24th, FET cycle
daly.... short IVF cycle, waiting for LH surge (Lupron starts 7 days later)

Birth control pill
annag.... FET medicated cycle, 9 frosties
hrobinson.... Fresh cycle
lwalker25.... Fresh cycle(?)

Waiting for AF
ltaylor.... FET cycle
Jen779.... FET cycle starts May 16th or 17th
Literatriz.... fresh cycle, donor embies, starts Lupron on May 15th

Eagerly waiting for cycle to begin
Shantala.... Fresh ICSI cycle starts in May
Literatriz.... Fresh cycle started May 1st, donor embies); flying for Brazil on May 16th! Good luck sweetie!

In our thoughts and prayers
CarolynB, good luck for your postponed cycle in July 2006! And good luck in Dubai!

[arizonakiwi]

I’m really excited I’ve just got back from my scan and my eggs have been growing well. They wanted at least 3 at 19mm and I have 4 plus a few that aren’t far behind. Providing my estragon level isn’t too high when I get my blood test results back this afternoon I’ll finally get to trigger tonight!!!!

[My2LnT]

Tanya I do so hope that is a real BFP for you!!!!!!!!!

Arizona - So happy to hear your follies are growing nicely and Congrats on finally getting to trigger !!!!!!!

Sophie So glad your headaches are not bothering you..I hate when I get my miagraines shewwww.

Jenn- How are things your way? Hope they are going well.

Steph

[TansRN]

Well the nurse from the clinic called today and she told me that I have to start taking Estrogen tablets under my tongue twice a day, start taking the PIO every day instead of every other day, and go and get a special shot from the pharmacy-Ovidrel to help boost Estrogen levels. Still not real sure how that works right now but I will make the necessary changes....

Update on testing. I took some photos of my tests and they are coming back more and more positive! I took the digital today and it said positive. I went to the store and loaded up. I had to use them because the shot that I had to take this evening is HCG so that totally jacks up my plan to keep taking the HPT's!!!! So I dove into the arsenal and used them this afternoon. It was fun. I keep looking at them. Here are the results:

1) FRED-faint line
2) Equate-faint +
3) Answer-light pink line
4) Digital-PREGGO!!!!

I am so thrilled and I can't believe that I have to wait until next week to get my beta done!!!

The photos are on www.thejourneyforbaby.blogspot.com

Arizona
YEAH! your eggies are ready! i know how excited that you must be! I am happy for you. Isnt it great when it exceeds your expectation? Woo hoo...have fun with that shot!

Sophie
I love the information that you share...I am 12 days past HCG shot. Although I just had to do the Ovidrel this evening. I tested before that and they were darker than yesterday!!! By the way I loved reading your bed rest info. I am a believer in the fact that it really doesnt matter...Thanks for your support.

Time to make dinner but wanted to check in.....

[jenn]

Tanya- Looks good girl!!! I had to do the HCG booster too on my last cycle, it does mess up the tests. Bummer! But at least you got in your own tests before the booster! I had to do the estrace under the tongue tablets too. Not very tasty! I have everything crossed for you!

Arizona- I'm so excited for you! Hope the trigger goes well and the ER is good as well!

I have a scan tomorrow. Hopefully I will find out when I trigger. My calendar says ER will be Monday, but you never know for sure.

Good night ladies!

[PMApsy]

oops, weird double post!

[PMApsy]

Just a quick note before I go night-night!

Arizonakiwi: wooohoooooo girl! LOOKING GOOD! I'm SO happy that your hormones are behaving themselves and that your eggies have grown well! Trigger tonight? But that's amazing! WOOHOO! Keep us posted, please, I'm on pins and needles!!!!

TansRN: ah, bugger with the HCG shot! You won't be able to rely on the HPTs for 7 days, now! LOL I can't believe you took pictures of your tests! Wow, ah I guess it's the best way to compare and stick to the scientific data! It still looks good indeed! LOL how much did you spend in pregnancy tests so far, just out of curiosity? It's not cynical, I'm smiling with warmth right now. That ClearBlue test is worth a million bucks! And how do you feel? Glad the info was useful. I was also very relieved when we realized, at the beginning of this thread, that we shared the same opinion about bedrest. It's comforting indeed.

Jenn: keep us posted about EC and trigger... I want to know for the list! And I'm waiting with you and getting excited, too!

Okay, time to hop into that shower and into that bed!

Sophie

[arizonakiwi]

Tanya – I love all your test results, especially the pictures!!!!! It sounds like it is all going well. I am sure you will have your BFP confirmed in a few days and our May / June girls first BFP

Sophie – glad the headaches have eased, not long to go now

Jen- I hope the scan goes well, It is exciting seeing all the eggs in the scan. Trigger and EC isn’t far away

Unfortunately the news isn’t good for me after the scan this morning they were happy for me to trigger providing my estrogen level hadn’t risen again. Unfortunately when they called this afternoon the result wasn’t good it has gone up again so they won’t let me trigger tonight. I have another blood test tomorrow morning but I have been feeling really uncomfortable tonight – like I was last time so I have a horrible feeling that it is still going up. To add insult to injury I think I am getting a cold, I have been sneezing and my throat is really sore. Sorry for the whine – I’m trying to stay positive but I’m feeling a little scared that I may not make it to EC again

Hi to everyone else, I hope you are all doing well,
Have a good day tomorrow / today

Angela