My God MissMolly. That is devastating news. Did the clinic give you any clue as to what might have happened? Could they not have done ICSI to rescue some? How awful to have to go through all that cr*p for no result. I don't think there is anything I can say that is going to make you and DH feel better but as misery likes company you can rest assured that I feel really miserable for you. I agree with you about the acu as well, it doesn't seem to have made any difference...not that I know anything about it but you would have expected better results for all the time, money and effort you have put in.
Don't know what to say...this really sucks...just take it easy and try to find something to help take your mind off it all (if that is possible).
Take care and I hope you and DH feel better soon.
Heather
Aussies and Kiwis!
MissMolly,
I share Heathers response, I am shocked and devastated for you. How dissapointing. I can understand you feeling down at this point, but I think it's incredibly promising that you're thinking ahead to your next cycle. That's a really healthy response. Is ICSI an option for future cycles?, I understand it's more expensive (of course!), but associated with much higher fertilisation and therefore pregnancy rates..Something to chat to your clinic about at the next appointment. Keep thinking about the future, as you have two cycles behind you now the clinic should have excellent information about how you respond to their treatment regimes. Will mean better results in the not too distant future.
Take good care
Belinda
I share Heathers response, I am shocked and devastated for you. How dissapointing. I can understand you feeling down at this point, but I think it's incredibly promising that you're thinking ahead to your next cycle. That's a really healthy response. Is ICSI an option for future cycles?, I understand it's more expensive (of course!), but associated with much higher fertilisation and therefore pregnancy rates..Something to chat to your clinic about at the next appointment. Keep thinking about the future, as you have two cycles behind you now the clinic should have excellent information about how you respond to their treatment regimes. Will mean better results in the not too distant future.
Take good care
Belinda
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Missmolly,
I'm so so very sorry to hear your news. I'm crying again now. Big hug for you! I had the final phone call today to tell me my estrogen level is less than 70 so my tmt is cancelled. I feel so horrible right now. I don't know if i can stand this pain either. Doesn't help that dh is in China right now. Then to top it off he missed his plan home today and won't be back until mon. I'm angry, upset and everything all rolled into one. How could there be 9 follicles and no estrogen??? I just don't understand what's wrong with me. I talked to the nurse and she said I could go on birth control pills for a month to bring on af but I couldn't think when I talked to her so I didn't know what to say. I'll have to call them again tomorrow.
Anyways, sorry for being a pooper guys. Thanks for all your support through all of this. I really appreciate each and every one of you so much! Thank you!
Huggs
Paula
I'm so so very sorry to hear your news. I'm crying again now. Big hug for you! I had the final phone call today to tell me my estrogen level is less than 70 so my tmt is cancelled. I feel so horrible right now. I don't know if i can stand this pain either. Doesn't help that dh is in China right now. Then to top it off he missed his plan home today and won't be back until mon. I'm angry, upset and everything all rolled into one. How could there be 9 follicles and no estrogen??? I just don't understand what's wrong with me. I talked to the nurse and she said I could go on birth control pills for a month to bring on af but I couldn't think when I talked to her so I didn't know what to say. I'll have to call them again tomorrow.
Anyways, sorry for being a pooper guys. Thanks for all your support through all of this. I really appreciate each and every one of you so much! Thank you!
Huggs
Paula
Me 40 DH 46
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
Taking bc pills
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
Taking bc pills
How staggeringly awful for poor MissMolly and Paula. You both have my sympathy.
MissMolly, if giving up the acu makes you feel better, do it. You'll want to feel some degree of control again right now. I'm sorry it all went so wrong.
Paula, my little 40+ mate, DH will get home eventually, is there someone else who can give you a shoulder to cry on or an opportunity to rant and let it all out in the meantime? Are the clinic saying nothing or will they save it all for a debrief when the emotional upset has calmed and DH is there too? I so hope you get some answers.
hugs
Debra.
MissMolly, if giving up the acu makes you feel better, do it. You'll want to feel some degree of control again right now. I'm sorry it all went so wrong.
Paula, my little 40+ mate, DH will get home eventually, is there someone else who can give you a shoulder to cry on or an opportunity to rant and let it all out in the meantime? Are the clinic saying nothing or will they save it all for a debrief when the emotional upset has calmed and DH is there too? I so hope you get some answers.
hugs
Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Good morning Girls,
Well it's a new day. I'm feeling a bit blah, but feeling alot better than I was for the last two days. I think i'm empty of tears? Not sure but for some strange reason i'm feeling better, even feeling hopeful for the next time around. I've left a msg for the clinic to phone me back to get me going on the next step. I think they're going to put me on the pill for a month to make af arrive.
I'm still ticked off at dh, and wouldn't even answer the phone last night until he absolutely drove me crazy with rage because he wouldn't stop ringing
Anyways, we're all good, i'm still a bit cranky that he's not here and missed his flight but what can I do?
Wishing you all a beautiful day and I'll talk to you all soon. Thanks for your continued support and friendship.
Huggs to you all
Paula
Well it's a new day. I'm feeling a bit blah, but feeling alot better than I was for the last two days. I think i'm empty of tears? Not sure but for some strange reason i'm feeling better, even feeling hopeful for the next time around. I've left a msg for the clinic to phone me back to get me going on the next step. I think they're going to put me on the pill for a month to make af arrive.
I'm still ticked off at dh, and wouldn't even answer the phone last night until he absolutely drove me crazy with rage because he wouldn't stop ringing
Anyways, we're all good, i'm still a bit cranky that he's not here and missed his flight but what can I do? Wishing you all a beautiful day and I'll talk to you all soon. Thanks for your continued support and friendship.
Huggs to you all
Paula
Me 40 DH 46
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
Taking bc pills
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
Taking bc pills
Hey Paula,
You're allowed to feel blah, the IVF rollercoaster carries us on some wild highs and really low lows at times. When is dh back in Australia???, soon I hope. I found spending time with Johnie to be a real comfort when it all got too much. I'm at a loss re. the low oestrogen and nine follies presentation, seems quite odd hey??..when are you back to your doctor??..Am keen to hear how it all goes.
Keep that chin up Paula, and think positively of your next cycle. I really do believe that as cycles continue the clinics get more information as to how you as an individual respond to the treatment regimes, thereby leading to greater success. Means next time WILL be better.
Take good care and look after yourself.
B
You're allowed to feel blah, the IVF rollercoaster carries us on some wild highs and really low lows at times. When is dh back in Australia???, soon I hope. I found spending time with Johnie to be a real comfort when it all got too much. I'm at a loss re. the low oestrogen and nine follies presentation, seems quite odd hey??..when are you back to your doctor??..Am keen to hear how it all goes.
Keep that chin up Paula, and think positively of your next cycle. I really do believe that as cycles continue the clinics get more information as to how you as an individual respond to the treatment regimes, thereby leading to greater success. Means next time WILL be better.
Take good care and look after yourself.
B
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Hi everyone,
Feeling a little better today. We will demand ICSI for next time. We went shopping last night & that took my mind off it for about 2 seconds! Our nurse said she was not given any info as to why the fertilisation failed - she was also a little stunned. We will have to wait until the 27th September to find out (when we have our follow up). We are not going to start on another cycle until Jan next year. We feel we need a bit of a break - after all it is only 4 months away. So over the next few months DH & I are going to have lots of fun & focus on our holiday at the end of the year. Let me tell you, I will be cocktailing my way through the US now!!!!! Sophisticated cocktails for New York & big tacky ones for Las Vegas!!!!!
Paula - I am so sorry to hear your terrible news. The fact that DH is not with you is just the icing on the cake!!!! Do you know what you are going to do next?
Thanks everyone for you kind words & ongoing support.
Missmolly
Feeling a little better today. We will demand ICSI for next time. We went shopping last night & that took my mind off it for about 2 seconds! Our nurse said she was not given any info as to why the fertilisation failed - she was also a little stunned. We will have to wait until the 27th September to find out (when we have our follow up). We are not going to start on another cycle until Jan next year. We feel we need a bit of a break - after all it is only 4 months away. So over the next few months DH & I are going to have lots of fun & focus on our holiday at the end of the year. Let me tell you, I will be cocktailing my way through the US now!!!!! Sophisticated cocktails for New York & big tacky ones for Las Vegas!!!!!
Paula - I am so sorry to hear your terrible news. The fact that DH is not with you is just the icing on the cake!!!! Do you know what you are going to do next?
Thanks everyone for you kind words & ongoing support.
Missmolly
1st IVF 04/05 -ve
2nd IVF (FET) 06/05 -ve
FET July - cancelled as embryo did not survive
3rd IVF (stimulated cycle) - no embryos!
4th IVF 02/06 -ve
January 07 - went interstate to a new clinic and got BFP!!!!!!!
2nd IVF (FET) 06/05 -ve
FET July - cancelled as embryo did not survive
3rd IVF (stimulated cycle) - no embryos!
4th IVF 02/06 -ve
January 07 - went interstate to a new clinic and got BFP!!!!!!!
Oh my God Paula, I am so sorry to hear that your cycle has been cancelled. Do you have any idea why the E2 levels were so low when you had so many follies? Is there any tests they can do or is it just trial and error? Sorry for all the questions but I am so disappointed for you and can only imagine what you are going through. The first day of spring sucked! I can also understand your anger with DH, I hope he had a good reason for missing the plane...for his sake. Take is easy and I really hope that DH makes it home and that the clinic has some answers for you.
I am having a horrible Friday too. This morning I found some sausages stuffed with rat poison in my yard, obviously meant for my beloved dogs. The poor things have been at the vet this morning struggling through induced vomiting which was quite distressing for them and heartbreaking to watch. They are over the worst but are still obviously feeling very green. We won't know if they ingested any for a few days but they have been given Vitamin K injections to combat the poison and will be taking the same for a few weeks still. The police are conducting an investigation and we have walked the neighbourhood alerting people to what has happened as there are many dogs and many small children in the area. The local newspaper is also running a story in tomorrows paper which will hopefully help to raise awareness in the area. I feel absolutely gutted that somebody hates our dogs or us so much that they would go to such lengths to do this. Our dogs are old, 9 and 10, mostly quiet, mostly indoors and very well cared for. I feel like moving.
I hope the weekend is oh so much better for all of us.
Best wishes
Heather
PS I have just had a part for my fridge delivered (a shelf) that I ordered weeks ago and when I opened it it was broken. Trivial, I know, but I think I will just go back to bed until this day is over.
I am having a horrible Friday too. This morning I found some sausages stuffed with rat poison in my yard, obviously meant for my beloved dogs. The poor things have been at the vet this morning struggling through induced vomiting which was quite distressing for them and heartbreaking to watch. They are over the worst but are still obviously feeling very green. We won't know if they ingested any for a few days but they have been given Vitamin K injections to combat the poison and will be taking the same for a few weeks still. The police are conducting an investigation and we have walked the neighbourhood alerting people to what has happened as there are many dogs and many small children in the area. The local newspaper is also running a story in tomorrows paper which will hopefully help to raise awareness in the area. I feel absolutely gutted that somebody hates our dogs or us so much that they would go to such lengths to do this. Our dogs are old, 9 and 10, mostly quiet, mostly indoors and very well cared for. I feel like moving.
I hope the weekend is oh so much better for all of us.
Best wishes
Heather
PS I have just had a part for my fridge delivered (a shelf) that I ordered weeks ago and when I opened it it was broken. Trivial, I know, but I think I will just go back to bed until this day is over.
Me 39+4 DH 41
4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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Hi all,
MissMolly, sounds all very sensibe to me..I lurve the idea of cocktailing through the US, live it up!! (will be much harder to do once you are with child!!)
Heather, that's bloody awful. My dog ate some rat poison earlier this year. We did the induced vomitting thing as well as vitamin K injections and then tablets (3 per day for 30 days I think??)..When we got her tested at the end of this time her clotting factor was at a healthy level, so luckily no ill effects..I hope and pray that your old fella's will be OK..and that your day gets better generally.
Thank goodness its Friday!!, looks like a lovely weekend ahead weather wise in South East Qld and hopefully for the rest of Australia as well.
Take care all
B
MissMolly, sounds all very sensibe to me..I lurve the idea of cocktailing through the US, live it up!! (will be much harder to do once you are with child!!)
Heather, that's bloody awful. My dog ate some rat poison earlier this year. We did the induced vomitting thing as well as vitamin K injections and then tablets (3 per day for 30 days I think??)..When we got her tested at the end of this time her clotting factor was at a healthy level, so luckily no ill effects..I hope and pray that your old fella's will be OK..and that your day gets better generally.
Thank goodness its Friday!!, looks like a lovely weekend ahead weather wise in South East Qld and hopefully for the rest of Australia as well.
Take care all
B
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Hi all,
Not from here, but keep reading up..
Heather,
I just HAD to comment on some EVIL TWISTED mind doing this to your beauties..
They must be jailed!
Do you think it could be some screwed up teenage mind at work?
Anyway, i hope they feel better soon and I hope you find out who did this..
Paula and Misssolly, I'm really sorry it wasnt your time.I hope you feel better soon..
Cheers,
smita
Not from here, but keep reading up..
Heather,
I just HAD to comment on some EVIL TWISTED mind doing this to your beauties..
They must be jailed!
Do you think it could be some screwed up teenage mind at work?
Anyway, i hope they feel better soon and I hope you find out who did this..
Paula and Misssolly, I'm really sorry it wasnt your time.I hope you feel better soon..
Cheers,
smita
me-32, dh 40
ttc 4+ years
4 failed IUI's
1st ICSI +ve 17/6/05:)
Baby girl Dhruvaa born on 14/02/06
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ttc 4+ years
4 failed IUI's
1st ICSI +ve 17/6/05:)
Baby girl Dhruvaa born on 14/02/06
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Oh Paula i have just read your post i am so sorry. After them saying you had 7 follies on the left and the size seemed Ok I thought this was your time, life isn't fair at times. You cry and do do what you want to do. I'll be thinking of you and I hear if you need someone to rant at I understand.
Mismolly I am so sorry for what has happened to oyu, when will you find out why none of them fertilized? Look after yourself and take some time.
Heather i can't believe someone could be so evil to do something like that, i just don't understand how people can be so cruel. Hope your dogs are OK and are coming their ordeal.
Love,
Jane
Mismolly I am so sorry for what has happened to oyu, when will you find out why none of them fertilized? Look after yourself and take some time.
Heather i can't believe someone could be so evil to do something like that, i just don't understand how people can be so cruel. Hope your dogs are OK and are coming their ordeal.
Love,
Jane
Hello girls,
I've just popped over from the 40+ thread as I wanted to catch up with Paula. So disappointed for you Paula and so unfair to have your hopes raised with those follies last week - it sounded so promising. Did they increase your medication in this last week to help grow the follies. I just wonder whether the stimulating drugs were of the right level or whether they could have been higher towards the end. Would be interested to hear from you when you feel up to it. But big hugs to you right now. Thinking of you. x
Miss Molly I haven't spoken to you before as I tend to post on the 40+ thread but I had my last fresh IVF cycle in April and I too spent a fortune on acupunture over a 2 month period. My IVF failed in April but I did feel acu. was worth a try since I hadn't tried it before and there was a lot of positive feedback coming out of the research that had been carried out. But, nevertheless, so disappointing for you too. Both you and Paula need time away from all this now and re-charge the batteries. We had 2 frozen embryos out of this last cycle and at the time I had no intention of going through another treatment, even though FET is certainly less invasive than fresh, but it took us 3 months to decide and I am into the 2nd week of downregging with planned ET early Oct providing we get past the defrost stage. So good luck to you both in whatever decisions you come to.
Sharon x
I've just popped over from the 40+ thread as I wanted to catch up with Paula. So disappointed for you Paula and so unfair to have your hopes raised with those follies last week - it sounded so promising. Did they increase your medication in this last week to help grow the follies. I just wonder whether the stimulating drugs were of the right level or whether they could have been higher towards the end. Would be interested to hear from you when you feel up to it. But big hugs to you right now. Thinking of you. x
Miss Molly I haven't spoken to you before as I tend to post on the 40+ thread but I had my last fresh IVF cycle in April and I too spent a fortune on acupunture over a 2 month period. My IVF failed in April but I did feel acu. was worth a try since I hadn't tried it before and there was a lot of positive feedback coming out of the research that had been carried out. But, nevertheless, so disappointing for you too. Both you and Paula need time away from all this now and re-charge the batteries. We had 2 frozen embryos out of this last cycle and at the time I had no intention of going through another treatment, even though FET is certainly less invasive than fresh, but it took us 3 months to decide and I am into the 2nd week of downregging with planned ET early Oct providing we get past the defrost stage. So good luck to you both in whatever decisions you come to.
Sharon x
MissMolly I'm so sorry you haven't had good news this cycle. I can totally understand you saying you want to give up the acu. I started about 3 months ago and since then my AF cycles have totally gone to pot ... worse pains, length of cycle now totally unpredictable ... I too am contemplating packing it it ..
You are in my thoughts, and look forward to hearing your follow up consultaiton news ..
Sandra x
You are in my thoughts, and look forward to hearing your follow up consultaiton news ..
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Paula ... I don't know the answer Paula .. Why there should be the follies, but not the eostrogen ... it doesn't make sense to me .. I'm so sorry it's worked out this way. Are you hoping to have a consultation to work out what may have gone wrong / what may have not worked, before moving on to the next cycle ?
Take care
Sandra x
Take care
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Heather - OMG!!! That is so shocking & scary. What type of person would try to harm an innocent, beautiful animal? If they find out who did it, I hope a jail sentance follows. I hope your furry babies are ok.
I went out shopping again yesterday! I went with a close friend, who has also had a pretty rough year. We both decided that window shopping was what we were going to do. We both ended up buying beautiful shoes!!!! We had fun.
I am still on an emotional rollercoaster. I have been waking up in the middle of the night, after having dreams that it was all a big mistake. I just wish we knew what went so wrong. If it was just a bad luck type of thing, I think I would feel better. I really hope that my eggs were ok.
I forgot to cancel my acu session for last night. They called and said "you are having embryo transfer done tommorow, and are late for your appointment". This made me a little upset. I explained what had happened.
Paula - I hope you are doing ok. Do something to indulge yourself over the weekend - it helps!
Have a good weekened.
Missmolly
I went out shopping again yesterday! I went with a close friend, who has also had a pretty rough year. We both decided that window shopping was what we were going to do. We both ended up buying beautiful shoes!!!! We had fun.
I am still on an emotional rollercoaster. I have been waking up in the middle of the night, after having dreams that it was all a big mistake. I just wish we knew what went so wrong. If it was just a bad luck type of thing, I think I would feel better. I really hope that my eggs were ok.
I forgot to cancel my acu session for last night. They called and said "you are having embryo transfer done tommorow, and are late for your appointment". This made me a little upset. I explained what had happened.
Paula - I hope you are doing ok. Do something to indulge yourself over the weekend - it helps!
Have a good weekened.
Missmolly
1st IVF 04/05 -ve
2nd IVF (FET) 06/05 -ve
FET July - cancelled as embryo did not survive
3rd IVF (stimulated cycle) - no embryos!
4th IVF 02/06 -ve
January 07 - went interstate to a new clinic and got BFP!!!!!!!
2nd IVF (FET) 06/05 -ve
FET July - cancelled as embryo did not survive
3rd IVF (stimulated cycle) - no embryos!
4th IVF 02/06 -ve
January 07 - went interstate to a new clinic and got BFP!!!!!!!