Fall 2010 Cycle Group

[klinger13]

Lauren - Let us know how the appointment went to discuss your options! And I can't blame you for drinking the champagne right out of the bottle. I think I would have done the same.

Franny - Glad I can officially put you on the list and don't dare think of yourself as a jinx! This is going to be a thread full of BFPs and you, Tiger, & Lou are going to get the BFP party started for the rest of us. YAY for starting your ganirelix injections today!!!


-hopefullintime (Dee) - Oct
-klinger13 (Amanda) - Oct/Nov
-yingz - FET Sept
-annashope - Oct/Nov
-nbfun (Nancy) - Sept/Oct
-lauren319


-Wondercat - Sept/Oct
-BLang4d (Brandy) - Sept/Oct


-lou71 - start Lupron on 9.7/baseline appointment is on 9.17/FET w/ 2 frosties planned for 10.15)


-turtle0619 (Franny) – started estrogen/ganirelix, then waiting for AF to start stims


-Tiger04 (Femara then IUI 8/28-8/29)







on your journey

[Lauren319]

SO, I have a big decision on my hands and DH has basically stated that it's up to me. We could do FET with one or two of our frozen embabies....OR we could do IVF w PGD all over again and use fresh embryos (assuming they get through the process and don't have fragile x) and save our frozen ones for later. THe obvious pros to this choice is that our frozen embryos will still be from a 30 yr old and not from future Lauren. Also, if we have enough frozen embryos saves, I could perhaps do this all over again for my sister at a later date (she's almost 40 and a carrier and my little niece is gonna want a sibling) and give her my normal eggs for her DH's sperm..and then everyone gets a baby....after I breastfeed this one!! The upside to FET is that we'd have a baby sooner and I wouldn't have to go through all the stims and everything right now. UGH. DH and I know we dont want just one and assume we'll have to do it all at some point again. The RE basically told us that having another one in a couple of years is basically the same as now in terms of my egg reserve/quality, bt we maybe think it's easier to do it when I don't have kids or a job?! Ugh. I might go for doing it all over again now and doing the FET for the future. The hard part is I want a child and I want a child NOW. Any thoughts?

I'm totally copying this on the sumer group too btw. . . don't hate.

[annashope]

Lauren this is a tough one.. if there is no difference in your egg quality between now and a couple of years from now then I say do whichever promises faster results. I totally understand the "I WANT A BABY NOW" I am right there with you. I know you want to help your sister but you have to make yourself happy first right? whatever you decide will be the right decision for you and I am here to cheer you on either way

[lou71]

Lauren319- Do what your heart is telling you. RE is right, your eggs will be good for a long while. You went through so much stress with the fresh cycle... Worrying about how many "normal" embies you'd have. I honestly think that can contribute to BFN's. That's why I'm going to do everything possible to relax this cycle... Yoga, acupuncture, massage, etc. Since you're asking what others would do, I would go for the FET with both embies unless you are really opposed to twins. But, in my opinion, you can't really make a poor decision here. Good luck hun.

[amanda1979]

hello all

I guess I will be in the fall group too. We have an appointment with a new RE on Sept 8th. We still don't know if we are leaving the old RE, but it will be good to see what someone else has to say. The place we are going has been in business for like 20yrs and their main office is in Birmingham, AL. but they have 2 more offices and one is where we live. I have been trying to call the old RE business manager with no luck to get our $5000.00 they owe us. Anyways, we are in limbo for the time being.

[TammyS]

I'm hereeee!!! lol

Klinger...Thankyou for getting this board going. I'm ready to jump back in with both feet now and no turning back. So glad that your ovary is still there and doing okay! Whew!!! I hope this time goes quickly and you are BFP very soon.

Lauren319...I'm inclined to agree with Lou. I'd go for putting both of your little boys back and giving your body a break with the FET. I know how hard your last cycle was on you both emotionally and physically. However, that is sooo sweet of you to want to cycle again to get extra eggs to freeze to give to your sister as well...so I'm kinda torn. Ugh, such a tough decision. Good Luck.
I just love your attitude...jump right back in and keep trying! Yes, you are right ...this board has lucky vibes all over it! I'm actually excited now to try again.

Nancy...Soo glad to see you here and finally getting started! Yayy!

Amanda...Glad to see you over here, too. I hope you get your money back quickly and start again soon!

Hopefullintime...Ugh, I'm sooo sorry that the cysts are delaying your cycle! That just sucks big time.

Annashope...I'm so sorry for everything you have been through. I hope this nightmare ends for you soon. It stinks when everyone you know is pregnant. And your little sister is still in highschool too...ugh! My local mommys group...we have nearly 30 people out of 100 that are pregnant right now. It's crazy. Happy Anniversary to you and your DH yesterday!

Wondercat...Ugh, it always seems to be something doesnt it? I'm so sorry that you are delayed this month.

Lou...BCP's will keep you from having any cysts...so chin up! You'll be pregnant again soon...I just know it!

Franny...Yes, I agree. You are an inspiration to us all.

Yingz...Hi and Welcome! Any idea when your FET will be? (yeah, I havent read everything yet, lol)

Brandy...Hi and Welcome! Doing the AF dance for you!

AFM...AF came Tuesday night...and I had my baseline today (Thurs). Had another med issue, but it is all straightened out now and getting the rest of the order tomorrow. I start the lupron Friday night and the stims on Saturday. I'm skipping the bcp's!!! No cysts on my ovaries and my E2 was perfect at 24. ER approx Sept 10th and ET approx Sept 13th. So add me to the injectables list! I cant believe I'm skipping right ahead...it has gotta mean good things for me, right?! Our cycle is falling just 1 week before Zach's 2nd birthday and party on the 18th...my 2ww should go fast. lol

I'm so excited that we are heading out of town this weekend since Bill is finally done with overtime now. It's a crazy weird feeling to me when he walks in at 2pm now. lol The highschool is only 1 block away from our house...so he often stops in on breaks...so sometimes I'm still thinking that he is on break and not home for the day. lol He is still doing some side jobs that keep him busy in the afternoon...but it's sooo nice having him home more now. I'm thinking that it will help with the stress level during this cycle, too. I'm taking a different approach this cycle...more laid back...with whatever happens happens attitude. I dont even think I will bother with acupuncture...it was honestly more stressful for me to get ready, find a sitter, get poked, then it was just to skip it. Maybe. As a matter of a fact...with my nurses blessing...I'm having a few drinks while starting stims Saturday night. Heck, in Europe they hand you a brandy after ET!

We are going to Columbus Saturday morning (2 hr drive)...taking Zach to COSI Childrens Museum (I just bought a cheap $49 a yr membership...good at 250 museums...several within 2 hrs of us)...then heading to our hotel for dinner/drinks and swimming. We are staying at the Drury Inn and Suites. I got an awesome deal! $74.40 including taxes, free dinner/appetizers, 3 free cocktails of your choice per person, free popcorn/sodas all night, free internet service, 1 hour long distance calling (not that we need it), crib, microwave, fridge (for my meds), indoor/outdoor pool, hot tub, free deluxe hot breakfast, and the list goes on...it's crazy cool! On Sunday we are heading over to the Columbus Zoo (we have a zoo membership)...and then heading home again. Just what we needed right now to regroup and start again.

Went on a shopping spree today...did anyone else take advantage of the Gap Give and Get 30% off sale? I spent too much...and am hopefully taking some of it back in a few weeks to exchange for maternity clothes. lol

Well, it feels good to be back...and since it is the middle of the night...I'm heading back to bed now. Love to all! xoxo

[klinger13]

amanda1979 - Welcome to the fall group!! I'm so glad you & DH had a nice getaway and you're coming into your next cycle refreshed! I hope you get your money back soon and that your appt with the new RE goes well!

Tammy - So glad you joined us over here! I have a really good feeling about this cycle for you and we're all ready to cheer you on. Your weekend sounds like it's going to be a fun one so ENJOY!!!!

Lauren319 - Boy, you've got one tough decision there! Of course you'll need to do what your gut tells you, but if it were me I think I'd try the FET with 2 frosties.

Tiger - Any word on how your follies are doing? Are you still on tap for IUI this weekend? Wishing you lots and lots of good luck!!!


-hopefullintime (Dee) – Sept/Oct
-klinger13 (Amanda) – Oct/Nov
-yingz (FET Sept)
-annashope - October
-nbfun (Nancy) – Sept/Oct
-lauren319 – FET or fresh
-amanda1979 – meeting with new RE 9.8


-Wondercat – Sept/Oct
-BLang4d (Brandy) – Sept/Oct


-lou71 - start Lupron on 9.7/baseline appointment is on 9.17/FET w/ 2 frosties planned for 10.15)


-turtle0619 (Franny) – started estrogen/ganirelix, then waiting for AF to start stims
-TammyS – starts Lupron 8.27, ER approx 9.10 w/ ET approx 9.13


-Tiger04 (Femara then IUI 8.28-8.29)







on your journey

Hope everyone has a great Friday!
Amanda

[Wondercat]

You ladies are such active posters it's tough to keep up. I love it though!! It's neat so many of you have pics up, too. I need to figure out how to add one to my signature... Reading through I feel pretty bad complaining about my delay when I already have a baby. I think it's just such a miserable, stressful thing that when you are all geared up to do it you just want to DO IT. In no particular order:

Tammy - Yes, I plan on taking advantage of the Gap/Old Navy 30% off. I want to buy some pj's for Sean. I have everything but that from my 4-year-old nephew. When he was about 18 months old he very badly burned the palms of his hands on the glass of a gas fireplace so my sister had to cut the sleeves off of most of his sleepers/pj's to accommodate the surgical dressings. (PS - Anyone looking to give money to a good cause, please consider donating to the Shriner's burn centers. Those people are fantastic.) I firmly believe in the good kharma of buying clothes in the hopes of not needing it. If you buy something amazingly cute and cheap, you will not be able to wear it!

Lauren - I'm not clear on what your roll would be in helping out your sister. Would you just be donating eggs, or carrying the baby for her? I understand your concerns about the relative age of your embryos. I have four frosties who are "29" and my concern with trying for my second one sooner rather than later is that if those 2 tries don't work how old will I be by the time I am starting a fresh cycle? I am surprised your RE would say that there would be no difference in your eggs in a few years because from what I have read there is a major drop in quality between the ages of 30 and 35. I doubt that change just magically occurs the day you turn 35; every year that goes by your quantity and quality is decreasing. Honestly, while I think it's amazing that you're thinking of your sister in the midst of all of this, right now this is something that needs to be about you and your husband building your family. It sounds like you and your sister love each other very much, and if that is the case I'm sure she wouldn't want you putting your own dreams on hold for her. I agree with Lou and klinger - do an FET with 2 embies.

annashope - The hurry up and wait in this whole process reminds me of the beginning of Casablanca - "...and wait...and wait...and wait..." Or maybe I'm the only one who's dad LOVES that movie and so has seen it dozens of times? Oh, and happy anniversary! Ours is August 31, 8 years for us. Don't worry about being a downer. It's not good for you to be faking all the time, just let yourself be real here where we all understand.

So now I just need to readjust my brain to get excited about October...

[nbfun]

Dh had his sperm aspiration this morning. They were able to do it w/ the needle instead of making an incision. They were able to get 5 vials of sperm. The doctor was very pleased with that. The only negative is that motility is only 2%, I think he said. He said that is very common when you have MESA done but it is something he had to let us know that there is a chance they could thaw it and have none to use. He said it's uncommon for that to happen but he has to let us know. He did say since they did get so much sperm that we could have a vial thawed and see how it does so we know before we get into IVF cycle and retrieve my eggs and then have no sperm to use.

What would y'all do? Do you have any input?

Our IVF class is next week.

[Wondercat]

nbfun - Yes, that is very common that the motility is not good because they are usually not able to retrieve mature sperm through aspiration. That's great that they were able to get so much though! Since you were able to get enough with the less-invasive retrieval method it could be a good idea to thaw one out to see how they do. We didn't have that option with our first aspiration. I know that while our aspirated sperm survived getting thawed the quality was not good so we ended up up with many fewer high quality embryos, and ultimately none of the embryos from that cycle worked. Knowing what I do now about the difference the sperm quality can make, if I had a choice I would like to know if they will survive the thaw and in what condition so that we could decide if we should try for another extraction prior to my going through the IVF cycle.

I'm curious - what is an IVF class? We never even had one offered to us!

[nbfun]

Wondercat,

Thanks for your input. I certainly do appreciate it.

I don't really know what all they'll go over in the IVF class but I can tell you after next week. LOL It's a required class at our clinic. It's a 3 hour class and all of our pre-req stuff has to be done prior to class. That's really all I know.

[Lauren1171]

I guess I will be in the fall too! I am hoping my transfer will be the last week of September.

[lou71]

Tammy -- Hi!!!! Great to see you back here. You were missed. It's the Lupron I'm worried about. i stop BCP's on the 9th and am only on Lupron until I see RE on the 17th. I have developed a cyst and ovulated right through Lupron TWICE before. This time they're putting me on 20 units! That is up from 5 units my first try then 10 on my second. I sure hope 20 units does the trick! Wow!... No BCP's. You really get to jump right back in. I've heard that it's possible the BCP's can cause a bit of oversuppression in us older gals so you might get more eggs this time! I asked RE about it and he said that's true but that taking the BCP's can also help the follies be in the same size range. Last cycle he gave me a choice. If this works well for you, I may try it without BCP's if I need another fresh cycle. I'm really excited for you!

Tiger -- I'm thinking of you! I hope you've got some GREAT follies growing in there. It's almost time and you'll be PUPO very soon!

Amanda1979 -- Welcome back! Why does your RE owe you $5,000? They better get that back to you! It's a lot of $.

Nancy -- 5 vials sounds like a lot! Congrats! I think I would thaw one ahead of tme to see if it would be usable. I wouldn't want to find that out after ER. Good luck!

Lauren319 -- That's great that you lived in Manhattan for 10 years! I would love some suggestions from you. Can you give me some restaurant recommendations? Maybe one nicer place and some others that have great food and good prices. We aren't planning to be fancy. Any trendy nightclubs? Favorite shopping locales? Art museums (I've been to the Met and Guggenheim of course)? Any other "must sees" you would recommend. I'll be spending a lot of time at Flushing Meadows since we've got tickets for 3 sessions, but will definitely have time to fit some other things in as well. We like to do pretty much everything!

Wondercat -- I'm with ya... really trying to muster up some PMA. I've done 3 fresh cycles (2 3dt and 1 5dt) and 1 FET of only one so-so blast and had one BFP that ended in m/c at 12 weeks. I am getting pretty desperate for some good news.

klinger -- Great job with the list! How are you feeling since the surgery?

[Lauren1171]

Lou - I am going to be doing a FET. This is my 5th and
final paid for cycle, so I really hope it works!

[babyluv]

Hi Ladies! Just wanted to stop in and stalk some of my old friends

Lou and Tammy - Fingers crossed and lots of prayers for you both this go round!

Lauren319 - Your story caught my eye because I have a friend who is also a Fragile X carrier. She found out before TTC and they decided not to have bio kids. They adopted their first son from Russia, second out of foster care, and shortly after becoming his foster parents she ended up "oops" pregnant (I'm still not sure how oops happens, but whatever). Her son DOES have Fragile X, but is at the high functioning end. I wanted to say good luck on your journey. Have you decided on doing FET or Fresh for the next cycle? I can understand both. I personally would have done FET, but we also have two adopted children and would have adopted more. If you are wanting more biological kids in the future and you know those frozen do not carry Fragile X, I would think another fresh cycle would be the way to go. It will only take a month or so longer, right? But either way I'm sure you'll be fine. You are only 30 now...lots of time.