2nd trimester bumps!!

[Edi]

Hi Toni,

Sorry to hear you're not feeling so well. Sore throat is miserable. Try gargling a little salt dissolved in warm water. I know it sounds disgusting but it does work. Also a hot drink of lemon juice, honey and cloves even a shake of cinnamon will help.
Hope you start to feel better before the weekend and congrats on the driving test.
hugs,


Edi

[valpas]

Toni,
Poor you, I know how horrible the sore throat is. As Edi said doing the gargling of salt in warm water really helps. My physician told we can take sudafed for the sore throat. But try the gargling thing first, if it gets worse then go to to your physician. Take lots of rest.
Hey gals, I felt my baby movements last night. It's my first time I could really notice. Even hubby felt it too. It was so wonderful for both of us. We were laughing and smiling.
I have a question, can we travel? My husband needs to go to california
for fewdays in April. He also wants me to go with him, but both of us kind of
scared too whether it is safe or not? We live in VA. We need to switch two flights I beleive. Please any suggestions?
Love Valli

[Paige]

Valli:

Sorry for butting in on your 2nd trimester thread, but I lurk here pretty often to check up on everyone's wonderful progress. I had ET in July and went to Aruba in November of 2004, everything was fine...we flew from Chicago to Miami, then Maimi to Aruba. We had a wonderful time....I was not wild about the maternity swim suit part, but hey it was worth it !

I know Dr.'s don't like you flying much in your 3rd trimester, so hopefully you can go and enjoy your trip.

Paige

[valpas]

Paige,
Thank you. Hubby is going on April 1st. I will be 21 weeks by then. So hopefully Dr also will say yes.
Thanks,
Love Valli

[Jackie S]

Hi everybody

Hope you are all ok.

Had our 20 week scan on Thursday, unfortunately they couldn't get a good enough image to give everything the all clear so it is being repeated in 2 weeks. The doctor said what she could see she was happy with but the heart and other organs were not visable enough. 'Stitch' wasn't moving around very much so they said it is a very layed back baby -definitely takes after its dad!

It was our 5th wedding anniversary on Friday and I think I finally felt some kicking. It was like a prodding feeling but I can't feel it when I put my hand on my tum but I have felt it a few times since. Bestest present we could have!!!

Saw my GP on Friday about tiredness and lack of appetite, and tearfulness. She sent me off for a complete blood work-up so hopefully so hopefully the results will help. I am very overwelmed by the tiredness/ lack of sleep -I am getting less than 1 hour a day, I just can't cope anymore.

See consultant on Thursday so hopefully that will reassure me a bit. I am on 2 week blood pressure checks and it appears quite stable at the moment which is brilliant because I am classed 'high' risk for pre eclampsia.

Cleared the spare bedroom yesterday, and we are off to buy wallpaper this morning. Hubby's parents are going to wallpaper for us, she is a dog breeder and they are expecting puppies this month so they have to do it before they arrive or it will be 8 weeks until they can do it. They have a dog at Crufts this week, so are busy getting her ready.

Anyway, sorry no personals, just grabbed 5 minutes on the computer while I had the chance. How are your 'bumps'? I am really starting to show now -feel less fat and more pregnant at last. Brother-in-law is really making fun of me -keep telling him I will get my own back when the baby has a full nappy!!!!

Take care

Jackie

[Toni]

Hiya girls

very quiet on here again............... just wanted to check ina and see where you all are at - will post more soon - but for now I have got Flu (feeling v miserable ) so im gonna go back to bed!

Look after yourselves and your bumps....

love as always

Toni xx

[Guest]

Hi Girls

Toni - you poor love, you keep your feet up and chill! Use it as an excuse to watch all that rubbish on daytime TV!!

Jackie - sorry you are still feeling so crap.........but glad you felt the baby move........so fab isn't it!! I have to say I have been quite lucky in that I have not had much sickness........just a bit of nausea in the beginning.........but boy have I felt tired........permanently! I had a bit of a reprevieve between 16-21 weeks and am now back back as ever if not worse!! Good news about the B/P though!!

I have been going to pregnancy yoga.......have to say I find it thoroughly boring!! Sorry but I prefer a good 10k run any day.......unfortunately that is out for the time being........did jump on my cross trainer this morning for a quick 1/2 hour this morning!

Take care and keep in touch

Jenfx

Hi to everyone else.......Valli, Edi, Soph-J, Elizabeth......hows it going??

[eacole]

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd jump onthe computer while I had a moment. Had my 20 week scan yesterday-so relieved as everything looks to be exactly as it should. And it is a boy! They were pretty sure-I couldn't see at all how they could tell but never mind.

Jackie-I hope having your bloods taken can give you a better sense of what is happening and I hope that you will be feeling better soon. What you are going through sounds so dificult-I can't cope at all without sleep and can't imagine what you are going through.

Jen-I worry too! I had a day last week where I didn't feel movement for about 1/2 day and even though I kept telling myself that the baby was probably just sleeping, I started to almost panic. Fortunately I was able to hang in there until I got a good kick later on in the evening. Yeah, serves me right!!

SophieJ-You're scan is coming up next, I believe. Let us know how it goes, are you going to find out the sex? Hope you are feeling better these days-it takes courage to take stock of oneself emotionally and admit that things are not as wonderful as we would like them to be. For myself, I've had quite a few years of therapy and it has done me a world of good-life is so difficult and I think it is only natural that coping with IVF /infertility just makes it that much more so.

Edi and Valli-how are you both doing? It is wonderful isn't it to feel those first few movements. ?
Toni-I can empathise! So sorry to hear you have the flu, it's so crappy isn't it? I still wake up coughing, which hurts my belly, I really hate it. The gargling really does help, but as you know rest is the best thing. I found taking paracetamol plain and simple also very helpful as well as Vicks vaporub on my chest at night really helped with my cough-don't know if you have a cough?

All the best,
Elizabeth

[sophiejane]

Hi all,
I haven't been on here for a while, glad to see you are all doing well.
I had my 20 week scan last week .... its a girl. She is doing fine and everything was the right size and in the right place. I was so relieved. My bump is getting much bigger .. I am noticeably pregnant now .

I have not really felt the baby move yet so this is stressing me out because everyone keeps on asking me if I feel her move. My sister is making it worse saying that i should definitely feel it by now.
But the scan lady and my midwife tells me not to worry and that I may not feel it for another 2 weeks. At the scan it was moving all over the place, and just by feeling my tummy I can tell where about its positioned, and that it does move from side to side, but dont feel its actual movements or kicks yet. I thought I did once but haven't felt it since.
It seems like I get over one hurdle of worry only to get another worry ... if this makes sense. the sickness is abit better ... only every other day first thing in the morning. But apart from that I have definitely reached my blooming stage (well, not quite blooming but feeling much better).

I still have stomach pains ... is anyone else still getting these .... I am putting them down to trapped wind and stretching, as my doctor or midwife does not seem concerned. God I sound like a right old moaning minnie ... sorry . Maybe thats why I've stayed clear of the board for a while.
Toni- hope the flu is better and congrats on the theory driving test.
jackie - I can't believe you are only getting about an hours sleep ... what an absolute nightmare, and no wonder you dont feel like you are coping. I hope the consultants give you some help because this lack of sleep can't continue. are you able to get any sleep during the day ... do you work??
Elizabeth ... how exciting a litttle boy. have you got a name yet. Dh and I have come up with 2 names for our little girl, and I really want to choose which one this week.
Valli .. you will be fine to fly at 21 weeks. Normally they say you shouldn't fly after 30 weeks. Hope your headaches are better. Mine have certainly eased up and only suffering from about one a week. I was very worried at one stage that baby will be addicted to paracetomol as I was taking at least 4 a day for weeks.
Jen - you are lucky to not have put on much weight. I think I have put on too much .. over a stone. I have cellulite in placed I never thought you could get it. They say you put on a pund a week after 20 weeks so maybe you will notice an increase form now on.

Well better go. Got so much work to do, and here I am at nearly 11 am and haven't done any yet!!!!
Bye for now
From Soph-J

[eacole]

SophieJ,

Nice to hear from you. I thought I'd share this-I have had stomach pain since my 2 weeks. I have always understood it as the womb stretching and heavy congestion of blood in the womb area because of all of the considerable growth of the baby and the uterus stretching. To be honest though it is definatley uncomfortable, some days really uncomfortable, I find it rather reassuring because I know that things are progressing as it should. I have also had lots of wind, heartburn, you name it since as long as I can remmeber since getting pregnant! The wind can sometimes scare me as it doesn't feel that different from the pain I got when I miscarried, but though I initially feel a bit nervous when I get the wind pain, I do know the difference instinctively and that feeling passes very quickly.

I also get sharp twinges/pains in the groin area and I undertand this to be my round ligaments softening and stretching because my pregnancy book describes it exactly this way, as does a colleague who shares with me what it was like when she was pregnant. So if you are having those as well, no need to worry as it is normal and good. Are these symptoms close to what you are experiencing?

And hey, please don't stop posting because you think as if you sound like you are always whinging (is that the word you used?) I always look forward to your posts as we are so close in dates and it is nice to hear how youa re getting on, especially too because that is why we have this-to post our worries, complaints, the whole deal, isn't it?

I'm very muddled about names! We like Benjamin, my husband likes Zachariah (Zack for short as thats a mouthful), Daniel, but I seem to putter out here. I feel rather pressured to come up with something becaus eit is so important, I'm going to go out and get a name book!

Elizabeth

[sophiejane]

Elizabeth it was so nice to read your posts. The pains you describe are exactly like mine. This morning I had such a bad pain I thought I was miscarrying but as soon as I changed my position and sat on the loo i felt much better. The pains are worse when I sit down for a long time, and as soon as I re-position myself they go. The aches are also low down in my groin area. Thank god I am not the only one. I too have had them since the 2ww.
I had a dinner party at the weekend. three of the females have all been pregnant before and they all said they didn't experience any pain ... so together with that and not feeling the baby move yet just got me so worried. Dp keeps reminding me of the scan less than a week ago when we were told baby is absolutely fine and growing well. At the scan we were told her little feet were 3 and a half centimeters long. Thats quite big isn't it, and so bloomin cute!!!

All of your three names are lovely. I know what you mean though about it being so hard to decide, and my choice changes daily. I have three baby name books and look on the websites quite regularly. Our current names are Olivia or Freya. Knowing the sex has made me think about the other twin we lost, and whether that would have been a boy or girl. I still feel very sad when I see twins.

Well lunch break over .. thanks again for your post. And your right, if I had posted more often recently maybe it would have made me feel better.
All the best
from Soph-J

[eacole]

SophieJ,

Olivia and Freya are lovely names. I too think of the other twin and what might have been, and feel a twinge of sadness as well when I see twins.

Your pains sound just like mine-sitting on the loo definately helps at times! Try and tell yourself when you feel the pains that they are normal i.e wind, blood pooling (I think we have something like 40 percent higher rate of blood pumping thru our veins right now) when you sit down/lay down and that this congests your womb and causes discomfort, not to mention the uterus/baby pressing down on our bowel, which creates wind, I'm sure. I know, I know, we will still worry a bit regardless, but it will pass, meaning the worry. I really do experience discomfort almost all of the time, especially just after I wake up-ouch!. It is good to know that you are not the only one, I agree. There are probably others who have experienced the same, but we just don't know them! everyone really is different in pregnancy. When you first started mentioning stomach ache I thought you meant literally your stomach was hurting, like after you've eaten too much, but it suddenly ocured to me after your last post that you are experiencing much of what I am.

Take care,
ELizabeth

[Guest]

Hi Girls

Everyone is sounding good........which is great to hear!!

I like Sophie-J have been trying not to post as I feel I just whinge and panic people with my worries!!

But hey.....lets all whinge together!!

Sophie - as for movement.........believe me it only gets worse (for a worrier like me anyway!!) once it moves...........when it doesn't or isn't moving as much........I really start to panic! I have phoned my poor consultant twice.......he will probably induce me as soon as he can just to get rid of me!!

Sometimes I promise myself not to come on the web as I keep finding stories of people who have lost babies right through to 38 weeks........scares me rigid......keep thinking that I will never get a days peace! I have also banned DH from going anywhere overnight ........just in case!!

Aside from being a paranoid neurotic.........all is well with me. By the way I get pains too...........sometimes they wake me in the middle of the night.....and when I have a pee it is fine.......other times I get other tweaks........I think those round ligament jobbies are part of it too.........had a pain in my right side a few weeks back for a week! I suppose that it all makes sense and us IVF girls are probably a bit more sensitive to it all that the lucky ones as we are watching every little thing!

Take care my lovelies

Jenfx

[sophiejane]

Hee Hee Jen you sound more paranoid than me
What are we like. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a week more pg than I am. It was just before our 20w scan and I asked if she was nervous. She said "No, what have I got to be nervous about. Its growing as my bump is getting bigger and they told me at the 12 w scan that the baby was doing alright".
Wow, imagine not being nervous at all. Wouldn't that just be heaven.
I'm going to take Elizabeths advice and think of my pains as a positive sign.
Jen - I think my midwifes think I am completely mad. I don't go two weeks at the moment without having a scan or hearing the baby's heart beat. I desperatley want to buy my own doppler (about £100.00) but Carl wont let me, as he says it will panic me more if one one occasion I couldn't hear the heartbeat (or knowing me, thought it was going too fast or too slow etc).
But look at us, we are all still fantastically pg with beautiful babies / baby.
The percentage is so small for something to go wrong now. Sometimes that can be the down fall of these websites as we tend to pick up on the negatives rather than all the positives. people post the negative stuff more because thats what this board is for to offer advice and support.
There's a programme on tv tonight about ivf. I'm going to get comfy and watch it with a hot choc and most probably cry the whole way through it . I hope I'm not turning my baby into a depressive neurotic little girl !!!!

Speak soon.
From Soph-J

[Kim]

Hello peeps !!

I cycled with Jen F, Elizabeth and Jackie S last year and my baby is due 2 days after Jen's - hello girls !!!!
I haven't posted for ages but I feel as if I know all you other girls on this thread because I read the boards almost every day and have been keeping up with your progress.
So I hope you don't mind me joining your thread at this late date ??

It appears we are all a bunch of worriers - I think that's entirely understandable - but look how far we've come, we are soooooooo lucky.

Well I'm getting married on April 2nd ( will be 26 weeks pregnant by then !!! ) We booked the Registry Office on the 14th January so I've been really busy organising a meal for 22 people, bridesmaid dress for step-daughter ( age 13 ) which still hasn't arrived yet ( yiks !! ), paige boy outfits, flowers etc.. etc... So in two weeks time I'm going to be a fatty in a wedding dress and I'm so very happy I could almost burst.

I know we've all still got a long way to go but I also know that there were shed loads of PMA floating around when we were on our 2ww so we have got the strength to put our worries aside for a while and just enjoy the wonderfulness ( if there is such a word ) of being pregnant because we really do deserve it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big hugs all round

Kim