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Post by garfieldtracy »

Rhonda - just a quick reply. We did the amnio and it was no big deal (and it came back normal so I was able to not worry for the rest of the pregnancy). I am sure you will hear others who had problems, so it is up to you to do it if you want. For me the information it provided was worth the risk. I needed to know what to expect.
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Rhonda: I had both the 1st trimester (included the nuchal scan) and 2nd trimester screening with our DS. Those tests are not invasive. However, the results are not 100%, but we did not proceed with the amnio since our odds of downs were like 1:5300. We probably would have had the amnio if there was a high risk of downs or other genetic abnormality. There is a risk of miscarriage associated with both amnio and CVS. I think it is around 2%. My friend had a co-worker that had an amnio and then miscarried shortly thereafter. I would talk to your doctor about your options for genetic testing. We went to a genetics specialist to have our tests done.

I'm glad to hear that you are no longer bleeding.

Catharine: Thanks for thinking of me. I hope that I can get pregnant. Time will tell.

Hello to Yasmina and Tracy.

Take care all,
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Hi all,

Sorry that i havenot posted for a while. The little one actually is doing very well. He eats n sleeps on schedule already: every 3h per feeding in day time n evry 4h/feeding at night. He sleeps at least 2h between each feeding. He only gave us total of two nights difficulties at the beginning days of coming home from hospital. He always put on a big smile after each feeding n has not thrown up his milk yet (unlike our DD, she frequently threw up big quantity of milk before 8 weeks) n he has gained back his birth weight now. We are truly bleesed with another easy baby!

Unfortunately, I have started to go back to work part time today: 2h/morning n 2h/afternoon. My father n his wife are very helpful which allowed me a quick recovery. I have been off pain killer for a few days now n feeling quite ready.

Alright enough about me.

Rhonda,

Like Tammy, we didn't do any invasive exams for Downs or any other abnormalities. For our first pregnancy, we did nothing. Second one we did only 1st tri ultrascreen which involves a detailed U/S n some blood work. Both DH n I decided not to terminate the pregnancy even with possible Downs (at my age, 1/32). After the screening, the probability of having Dn baby decreased to 1/600 or something like that.

Tracy,

Thank you for sharing n for making things clearer. BTW, the same guy who had that "wise" statement has also 2 kids years before me! I guess we all fell in the same babyloving catagory. I have to say watching our kids grow is very joyful, even though I always feel also a little bit sad in the mean time. I feel inadequate sometimes.

Catharine,

Thank you so much for the kind comment about DD n DS. DD's sleep is back to normal few days before we brought DS home. She was not bothered by the new addition n slept through the night ever since. She kisses her brother often n sometimes insists to carry him. She does not realize the baby is too heavy for her! The funny thing is that she would be quite sad when she sees or hears her brother cry - she definitely will come n check out why he cries even when she is deeply invovled in u-tube songs! She is such an attentive n sweet sister.

Given my limited experience w 2 kids, I encourage you to try for the second. I cried few times when I felt that I didn't give enough "alone" time to our DD before our DS's arrival. But I am also sad for our DS b/c he was born to share the parents' love w his sister! I wish there are other solutions...

Tammy,

As always, I am think of you. It's nice to read from you. Hope you get pg soon!

Take care, everyone else!

Yasmina
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Yasmina:

I'm so glad to hear that you are doing well and that DS is an easy baby.
Thank you for your well wishes. I do hope that I get pregnant.

Rhonda: DH and I decided too that we would not abort if we got the increased odds of having downs with our DS. It is a very personal decision, but I think it depends on what you will do with the information you receive from the amnio. If you would not abort, why risk the potential miscarriage.

Take care all,
Tammy

PS: We are off to Disneyworld
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Hi Ladies :D
I just wanted to share a recent studied published on line in Fertility and Sterility by Takasaki et al. where they were looking to increaseing thinned endometria. It was published on line Feb 5. They had some intersting conclusions that I wanted to share. They were that both vitamin E and l-arginine can improve the thickness of the endometria and that they maybe useful for patients with thinned endometria. Why does this excite me? well, my clinic had me taking vitamin E but had no real sound reason why. Then I had read some place else about the l-arginine. Back a month ago I put both back into my daily routine of nutrient supplements. I'm feeling real positive about that decision. The study also demonstrated that sildenafil citrate is capable of increasing the thickness of the endometria. 11 of 12 patients receiving the tmt showed marked improvement and 50% conceived during the IVF cycle. Very promising study and results. The likely hood of us ladies getting a prescription for that is next to nill but our DHs will have no problem getting it :lol: just ask for viagra.

wishing all the best
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Post by santa »

Hello ladies, I have been following your stories for a long, long time but this is the first time I have posted on this board. I hope you don't mind if I join your journey - I feel I know some of you well already! I also posted on another over 40 board.

I am 42 and this is my second IVF. My first IVF resulted in 6 follies, 4 eggs, 2 embryos and sadly a pregnancy that ended in miscarriage at 6.5 weeks. I have low ovarian reserve (0.3 on the AMH test - if that means anything to you?). I am currently stimming on 450 Menopur a day and at day 10, have 5 follies - am absolutely on pins and needles to see how many follies I have at each scan.

I wish you all the best of luck and am thrilled to see so many of you pregnant, some with your second IVF babies !!

Children, I hope you don't mind my asking how many embryos you implanted each time you had IVF.

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Santa,

Welcome. I wrote you a long reply the other night but somehow it did not show.

The short answer to your question is that I transferred 4, 6, or 5 embryos for the 3 FETs that I did. Keep in mind though, those were my own 43 eggs derived embros not the ones from 20~30 yr old eggs which would give high rate of multiples. We only hoped less than 10% good eggs in our limited reserve.

I am sorry that you lost the pg at 6.5 weeks. You known that you CAN get pg! Did your RE check your blood clotting issues? Sometimes blood thinning medication helps to keep pg. Just a thought.

Good luck on this ongoing cycle and please keep us updated about your progress!

Yasmina
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IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
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Post by santa »

Thanks Yasmina.

I have been posting on another over 40 board recently, so sorry if you have already seen this info elsewhere.

I had my egg collection this morning - 5 eggs from 5 follies (better than my last cycle of 4 eggs from 6 follies), my lining was a bit thin (8.2 a couple of days before egg collection). I will be waiting for the call from the embryologist tomorrow !

I did get a full thrombosis screen to check for clotting issues, but it seems that I am fine on that issue, just plain old eggs I think.

I have been having a debate with my husband - he firmly wants me to implant just 2 embryos whereas I would like to put back 3 (if there are 3 to put back). My husband is terrified of triplets but I have tried to explain that at my age, we would be lucky to get even a singleton from 3 embryos. I think this is correct?

ps I found your story to be very inspiring on the board, and am amazed that you still find the time and energy to post even after having your adorable son.

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Post by Catharine »

Hey Santa-
Welcome :)
Sending you lots of baby dust.

Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
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1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
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Ladies, I hate PC, it lost my long post again! I never had such problems while using mac!

Santa,

In short, congrats to 5 eggs and hope you will get 5 embryos too. I would suggest transfer as many as your RE suggests because he/she knows more than any of us. My RE told me he had never multiples on >40 yr old embryos. I had a friend who got twin boys from her 43 old embyos by transferred 3. So, your DH has his reason to worry. The best way to convince him is to let your RE to decide the numbers.

Catharine,

I just found out that I underfed our DS which made me lost 2 nights of sleep! He wouldn't stay sleeping when hungry. I thought he just wanted to sleep on the breasts or in my arms until I found his poop turned from bright yellow to green! i never learn - I made the same mistake to my DD!

Tammy,

Having fun at Disney world?

Hi to everyone else here!

yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Post by santa »

Hello everyone, thanks Children for the response and Catharine for the warm welcome.

My fert report came back and I have 3 out of 5 eggs fertilised (apparently only 4 eggs were mature). I am going for ET on Monday. I finally convinced hubby we need to transfer 3 embies back, instead of 2, as the embryologist said that at my age, 42, the chance of multiples is only 3-4%.

I am a bit worried about my thin lining - it was only 8.2 a couple of days before transfer.

Did everyone give up exercise during the 2ww? I love going to spinning classes and Sculpt classes (basically, using weights, no cardio) - should I stop this? I find exercise helps my mood a lot and I don't find yoga or pilates very interesting.

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Santa: Welcome to our site. Congrats on your embies. Good decision on transferring 3 instead of 2. My RE and Embryologist said that for women our age, the chance of multiples is slim and then it is usually only twins. I transferred 5 embies during my last fresh cycle.

Yasmina: Thanks for asking about my vacation. It was nice but very tiring. I caught a cold the third day that we were there and that zapped my energy. Andrew got sick one day with a fever and runny nose. I gave him Tylenol for 1 day and he got over it. He has a healthy immune system! He really enjoyed seeing the characters and really took a liking to "Donald Duck"..............or Duck as Andrew calls him. We were in a gift shop and he saw a display of stuffed Donald Ducks. He said, "Duck" and took one off of the shelf and stuffed it into the stroller beside him. There was no way that I was going to get that duck away from him. Of course I had to buy it for him. The next day we were in another store and he saw a baseball with Donald Duck painted on it. He picked it up along with a Mickey Mouse baseball and stuffed one ball behind his left side and one behind his right side (in the stroller). DH and I laughed. It was like he was trying to shoplift. I pulled them out and told him that he could only have one of them. Of course he picked the "Duck" ball. We also bought him a Disney t-shirt. After we paid for both, he took them out of the shopping bag and stuffed one behind his left side and one behind his right side. He is too funny. Luckily he slept through most of the plane ride home. I'm glad to be home!!!!!

How is your little guy doing? I hope that you are feeling better and getting good sleep. How is Eloise doing with her brother?

Hello to Tracy, Catharine, Rhonda and anyone else that I may have missed.

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Tammy,

Welcome back. Is that you in the picture? You have lost a lot of weight and I can hardly recognize you in the pic! Glad that you had blast time in Disney land! Last time I went Orlando Disney land was 1994 and I was still single!

Thanks for asking. Eloise is very friendly to her brother, she always hisses him when she leaves the house to daycare and then kisses him the first thing when she comes back home. But she isn't happy if daddy holds him for too long. She only allows me to take care of Maxime and she often tells everyone else who holds him to give him back to me. Funny! She thinks her brother is my property. She knows that her brother is coming out of my belly b/c she comes to check out my belly and says "Di Di" (little brother in Chinese). The thing about her is that she has very strong personality and we cannot ask her to do anything if she does not want to. For example, she won't greet her teachers or anyone we meet if we ask her to do so. I hope she does not keep behaving this way for the rest of her life!

Santa,

Good luck on your transfer and hope to hear good news soon!

Catharine,

How are you doing? Does your DD start to sleep through the night?

DH and I got cold virus from DD (daycare!) and I am very worried about DS to get it also. I don't know how to deal with it if the virus gets a 3 weeker! He has good days and bad days in terms of eating and sleeping patterns, in general, he is a good boy. If I happen to be too tired or too lazy when he is having a bad day, I just put him in our bed and feed him while lying down and then fall in asleep myself...

Rhonda,

How are you doing with your pg?

Tracy,

When are you going to start your new cycle?

Hi to everyone else.

Yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Hello, everyone, I had my 3 day embryo transfer today - 2 8-cell Grade 1 and 1 6-cell Grade 2 (grade 1-5, 1 being the best). I am nervous and excited. I love this phase of the process because I feel it is the only time during this whole process when you can truly hope and be optimistic.

My husband is terrified of triplets or even twins, so it is causing some tension as he thinks it was "irresponsible" to transfer 3 embies. I tried to explain to him that at my age, 42, miscarriage is a bigger risk than multiples.

Yasmina, your children sound adorable, and I really appreciate you taking the time from what must be such a busy time to post on this board. I appreciate your experience and calm words !

By the way ladies, my RE said that there is absolutely no evidence that bedrest after ET is beneficial, and he said even stress makes no difference. I didn't even get to lie down for 5 minutes after the ET, as had to pee so badly, and then went straight back to work !

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Yasmina: Thanks for your kind words. Yes, that is me behind Andrew's stroller. My problem is not exercising. I need to firm up!

Santa: Good luck on your 2ww!

Hello to everyone else.

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