The Over 40 Crowd

[taylorjools]

Hi ladies,

just checking in to see how you are, I hope you don't mind, I don't want to leave you

D - you poor sweetie, yukky nasty stitches you are right, that last treatment was not blessed with luck except that you came through Ok at the other end and will be fit enough to carry on. Try and see the silver lining, I know it's tough, especially for we Aries types who are very polarised sometimes. You are having mega pooh weather you poor thing, we have 33 degrees for the last 3 days, maybe you should come and visit????? here's some sunshine for you sweetie . I think you need to either move south or get a light box

Randa - can see how you did that with the tmt, now I have to put 2 patches on each 4 days, in the 2ww I wrote it all down in my diary, I nearly missed a change this morning, we just have to keep our poor old waery brains concentrated don't we

Jill sorry they put off your EC, it's not because of the bl**dy bank holiday is it??? I do feel sorry for you girls that get scheduled around holidays and things. Sounds like the folly fairy can stop dancing and start singing your follies into maturity now

There is a new 40+, Kat, actually she's 40 next month and I have been talking to her on the donor egg forum, check out the thread "for taylorjools". She has her first appt with IM in Barcelona on 1st September I have encouraged her to join us here, maybe on of you should also try as she thinks she can't til she's 40..or maybe she just wants the big four oh birthday first???

anyway, we'll have to get some new recruits to keep the 40+ pg thread fed for years to come won't we???

Love and kisses to you all

bigJ

[DebraP]

Special Call for Kat..................hello?

Come join us please It will help take the edge of the birthday too! I started telling people I was 40 about 6m before just to practice saying it without grimacing Turns out, not an iota of change...

Welcome
Debra (41)

[DebraP]

Julie, I'd be upset if you didn't stay for just a little while. Maybe up to the scan? The weather is esp. poor right now. Just as the UK is having it's hottest May for 50 years, ours is the coldest - joy! I don't mind too much as I slather sun-block on even to snip a few twigs in the garden, but I have a fab collection of sandals that I insist on wearing now it's late May, despite the cold and get much derision!

Randa. I've not read that thread at all so missed your wedding news. I'll go and check it out a bit later. DF and I had booked to marry this coming Saturday but both went right off the idea in early January. Now, when I feel we could do with a lift, I wish we'd kept the booking - esp. as by coincidence my parents will be here. Never mind. I hope the arrangements are relatively stress-free? seems these things are always a tonne of work (hence our lack of drive).

I've slipped with meds many times. As you say, 2nd time+ you think you've remembered it all.

Jill - I hope you're getting out and enjoying the weekend, even with a clutch load of eggs in there!

Hi Kat (you'll pop over soon I'm sure!).

hugs
Debra

[Kat]

Hi all, Felt my ears burning and came to see why!
I think I'm in denial about turning 40 (July 8th) but as you've all been asking where I am....how did you know I was secretly reading this thread...?!
Quick history for those who don't know:
Tmt #1 2002 - cancelled poor response (was this an early indication of things to come?)
Tmt #2 - cancelled as DH broke his neck the weekend before EC (thankfully all OK now)
Tmt #3 - one egg collected, fertilised, negative
Tmt #4 - 4 eggs collected, 3 fertilised, 2 made it to ET, negative
Tmt #5 - cancelled poor reponse (spot a pattern emerging here?)
Tmt #6 - reached EC but no eggs collected

Clinic would not let me do another tmt and referred me to another clinic for DE (in UK) - still on waiting list. Hence decision to investigate Spain, especially after getting all info from Julie (for which I shall remain eternally grateful) ....As she says, my first appt is 1st Sept and I am so excited as well as being sh*t scared of having to deal with it all again.

Here's to success for all of us
Lots of love
Kat xx

[DebraP]

Hooray - you're here Kat! I didn't know you were reading but hoped you'd hear the call. We're very nice but a bit thin on the ground - there were loads of us but they all scarpered off to the pregnancy board now that's a sign of things to come

Have you read up on DHEA improving response in women our age? try googling it, very interesting. ChicagoKelly posted a message last year with a fascinating article attached.

I agree the downside of starting tmt is dealing with all the cr'p that sometimes comes with it. Let's be positive this time

DF is needling me about the pc, he needs to work apparently....sigh!

I'm glad you popped over!
Debra

[taylorjools]

Hi girls

Still here took yesterday off to be on the beach ALL DAY as it went down to 25 degrees which was manageable, Sat was 35 in the end, far too hot in spite of sea breezes. Back to normal now, rain, grey but at least we have 14 degrees.

Poor you D, yuk weather- doesn't make entertaining visitors easy either does it?? Still as long as they have their thermals with them dh and I got married with no visitors no fuss. I am glad we did it that way, as it was for us. very important, as in the months before the breakdown I started questioning our whole relationship, as I did in my first months of therapy. (It was dh who didn't want more kids, and only changed his mind in 2000 you know the rest of the story) so we worked it through in some couple sessions and alone, and getting married was the seal on a new level of love and partnership for us, with total honesty about feelings etc. I came out of the clinic ona "24hour pass" to do the deed and we did it on 31st December you might be right - it might be the right time to think about it again??

Kat, glad you've joined, welcome!!!
we have become really good friends all of us here, you'll feel really at home. Reading your history again - OMG you poor sweetie, especially with dh on tmt nr 2, it's just not credible that things like that can happen when you are going through this sh**t is it??? Glad dh is Ok though - phew!! After all of that, you can feel at least confident with IM that you'll get your donor eggs nice and plump and ready to go...

Randa - how you doin' girl???? busy with dh I guess ptracticing trying naturally or what???

Was a good girl today, worked through a do list of things that were worrying me and got all geared up to spend the afternoon on the phone to the UK (via Skype of course ) getting the houses sold and tax sorted and other mega yukky stuff, and after the 3rd answer phone worked out it was a bank holiday - now I have to gear up again tomorrow - I hate admin

I have been feeling full of doubt about this pg, I am convinced it will go away. I've even thoughtabout getting another Beta HCG to check progress, I just can't face getting to the scan and finding nothing there what do you girls think????? am I mad????

Love to you all, thinking of you

bigJ

[DebraP]

Julie.....we'll not get hitched yet. I'm not sure we ever will. Partnership/living together is formally recognised by the state and hence loads of people do it instead of marriage. It always sounds a little odd when some of my older students refer to their partner and I realise they've spent 40 years together but not signed the papers. Soon we'll have been engaged for 5 years, what's the point?

Re. your fears. I won't dismiss them but what are you suggesting, that one more test will be enough? or will you want to test regularly? I hate to say it but being pg, wonderful though it is, is also a time of anxiety for some people and that doesn't go away. You'll need to learn to relax into it otherwise your worries will ruin what should be a very happy time in your life. Each stage brings new expectations and equates to new worries. People can't wait to feel the baby move but as soon as it happens, they worry when it stops...you see what I'm getting at?

Relax. You've entered a brand new phase of your life. New experiences, new feelings - you'll need new methods of dealing with them.

double hugs
Debra

[randa2006]

BigJ,
Yes, you are mad! Sweetie, remember, nature made us for reproducing. It's what females do! Your body has been wanting to do this for years and you've got a mega-healthy embryo that came from a 20-something donor for goodness sake! I'll bet an earthquake couldn't shake that little leach loose!!! Relax! Enjoy your last few days in your regular clothes for God's sake!

Don't mind me, I'm just jealous.
God Bless!

[taylorjools]

Thank girls, you are so wonderful, you are right of course
It was insensitive of me to ask that here, sorry

Love and kisses

bigj

[DebraP]

Julie, no no no, it's not insensitive at all. Never apologise for your feelings and thoughts. If you can't post them here....where else is there?

Did you test again?

I feel completely adrift right now. Extremely untreatment-ish - Ha! what shocking English! I guess the very last of the hormones are out of my system. My stitches are on the mend, I drank 2 coffees today in a class where I usually drink a litre of skimmed milk - as if showing 2 fingers to it all. Preparing for a FET is so completely different from the full monty. Tomorrow, 1st June brings a new attitude (maybe, LOL!). Bit rambly this...

Randa, hope you're ready. Next week is a biggie....more good news I'm sure.

Julie. How are you feeling? bought any double DD bras yet I should chase around and look at your other posts.

Jill - good luck tomorrow with EC. I hope you've not been too uncomfortable?

Kat - how are you doing?

Anyone else joined us yet?

hugs
Debra

[JaneR]

Hi Ladies,

Well I think it is just about time for me to join you. Not forty yet but will be in just over months time and definately will be the next time I cycle. SO I might as well get used to saying those works ,I am 40 . So it you'll let me I'll post here.

Love,

Jane

[taylorjools]

Welcome sweetie, you will be well looked after here, this is a great thread of wise women

Love and kisses and a big {{{{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}}}}

bigJ

[DebraP]

Hi Jane....come on in, the water's lovely! Really, turning 40 is so not a biggie once you're here, honestly

Once it sounds OK in your head, trying saying out loud a few times. To older people at first, they'll think you're still very young and it's a nice way to start! I started telling some of my older students I was 40 when I was still 39, and they all laughed and said nice things, bless them!

Welcome to the thread. We're picking up numbers on here again which is lovely as people (aka BigJ/Julie) have a terrible habit of getting pg and will eventually leave us

hugs
Debra

[Kat]

Hi all, computer playing up so have only just got on
Hi Jane - when's your birthday? I am 8th July. It's nice to have people of the same age to talk to esp as I work with a lot of youngsters (21+) and I am one of the oldies (and they won't let me forget it either).
Been suffering from the voices in the head thing today - am due AF and I always have conversations with myself where one half says I could be pg (like there's about a million to one chance) and the other half says don't be so stupid. And they argue from about day 25 till AF comes. Every month. Is this just me? Am I going completely mad? Perhaps I shouldn't let on things like that....you'll all think I have finally lost it
Time I went to bed I think...
Kat xx

[randa2006]

Kat,
I'm so glad someone else talks in their head like that besides me! I often have the optimistic-Randa vs. pessimistic-Randa conversations going on. Maybe it's an over-40 thing? We know too much to be naive, yet we're too young to give up hope.

BigJ,
I hope you know I was just kidding around with you about the worrying. You never need to apologize here! I enjoy watching you go through all the stages that are (hopefully) just ahead of me - hee hee!

Debra,
You sound sooooooo back to your former self and I'm so glad! Roll on August! How many frozens do you have to work with?

My day-5 scan went fine. Ovaries feeling swollen. One week til EC!!

Welcome Jane! Look, you're the BABY in our group!