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Post by teachertam »

Catharine,

I am so sorry to hear your news. I know exactly how you feel :(.

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Hi everyone,
Catharine so sorry. It was this same time last year I got the bfn from IVF. I know how heartbreaking it is, but hang in there. Maybe you will get a bfp naturally next month like i did last year. Hope everyone else is doing good..

isabella is 3 months now. she is growing so fast. She is babbling and laughing and sleeping most through the night and through the night most of the time. she is a good baby. Hope you all had a nice Thanksgiving. take care. keep the heads up.

Rhonda
Mrs. Cutter-Me-44 DH35
clomind-6mth follistim-june/july-cancel iui-08
IVF Retrival nov 12th transfer Nov 15th
BFN!!! Nov 26th.
BFP!! Dec 30th Natural pregnancy
Isabella sophia born 9/1/09
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Post by Akua »

Greetings everyone,

Catharine I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I don't know what to say except that your BFP will happen soon. I feel it, so keep your head up and think POSITIVE. I will continue to pray for you.

As for me, my 1st BETA was around 250. I went to the clinic on the Monday after Thanksgiving and my 2nd BETA was 1030. I go back for a 3rd BETA reading on Dec. 11 which is DH birthday. I was told to discontinue all meds as my progesterone and estrogen are at great level without the pills. I feel pretty good except I will admit Im worrying about something going wrong but I try not to think about it.
My belly is tender and bloated and every now and again I feel pains that feel like uterine cramps and dull to sharp pains. They usually don't last long though but they don't help me in the worrying dept.
Ive only confided in a few friends and DH and I have decided to wait until after the New Year (end of January) to start telling people Im PG. I should be about 11-12 weeks by then. Please just keep praying for me.
Quick question: When I had my last child 15 yrs ago, I never felt any implantation pain, uterine cramps or any discomfort throughout the entire 9 months but now I am having all these. I would like some feedback on this. Am I feeling more because it's been so long since my body has been PG? Is my age a factor in the pain? Can it be because I had the abdominal Myomectomy this past June? Maybe the scars from the surgery are still healing and the preperation of my uterus for this pregnancy is stretching the incisions? Could it be side effects from the Menopur injections, estradoil, ect.? Also, my breast are getting very full and they hurt and I don't remember feeling any breast changes until much later in my last PG. When I go to the clinic on 12/11, I plan to ask the RE but I wanted input from you guys who are in the trenches with me (smiles).

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Post by Catharine »

Sunday Greetings Ladies! :D

I wanted to thank everyone for their kind and sensative words. I can not express how much it helps and means to me to have such lovely ladies there to support me. I'm slowly getting on. I know it hasn't been too long, just a week actually. AF arrived yesterday :( I had this little hope that maybe the clinic was wrong and I really was pregnant that the beta was below detection on the test date. Sadly :( not the case. We will have a followup consult in 10 days to see where we go from here. To tell you the truth, I've got mixed emotions on the process. I would really like another newborn in the house, a sibling for DD to grow with, to bond with, to chum around with. But then there is the cost associated with tmt that may be prohibitive for us trying ivf again [we've always paid out of pocket]. May be it's time to consider alternitive tmts. Other times I feel we are blessed to have DD and I should latch on to that and be the best mother to her that I can and stop worrying about her having a sibling. I realize this is normal given all the hormones I pumped into my system followed by the the huge let down. I keep thinking how sad for those high quality embryos :( Well, I've a big month this December, more work than I can handle with a huge deadline looming in mid January. I'm thankful for work being a distraction over my desire to give DD a little sibling.

Rhonda-glad to read about Isabella, would enjoy seeing more pix if you have some.

Akua-your beta values sound great. I'm so happy for you and DH. I remember being as worried as you have described. Remain positive. I wish ya'll the best.

Everyone take care and thank you again.

Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
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1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Post by teachertam »

Good Morning Ladies:

Catharine: I know what you mean about mixed emotions. My good friend who just had her 2nd baby early Nov. came over on Saturday. She was so exhausted with a newborn and a 3.5 yr old. It made me feel better about us having only one child. I don't know how she does it. She is 45 yrs old too.

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Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
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5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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hi catharine,

Sorry for your last cycle. it was a good cycle but surprising and disappointing outcome. Good that your work keeps you busy!

About siblings, I decided for us and persuaded my hubby to go along with this decision. Now, whenever I see our DD and DS laughing and playing together, I thought I was right. Whenever I see my DD needing me to be with her, but I am too busy with the DS, I think I was wrong...I have to be honest, I have missed a lot of my DD's growth stories. she is completely in her daddy's hand...

I remember that you had some frozen embies left, right? If so, why not give a frozen cycle a try?

Happy holidays, everyone here!

Yasmina
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IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Post by Catharine »

:( sadly no frozen embies. All previous cycles had poor embies and always transferred 4-5 with each cycle and the remainder were determined to be too poor of quality to survive the freeze/thaw and therefore discarded. :( All is not lost yet. :) We have the final consult this Wednesday with RE too discuss the outcome and future options. I may ask for hsg to make sure tubes are open and then perhaps use donor sperm with IUI. Just thoughts running through my head. Just a reminder, our infertility is most likely due to the unexplained low motility and poor morphology of DH sperm :( .

Wishing everyone well. Sending the PMA out :)

Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Post by CarolineP »

Hi Catherine

I think it is well documented on these boards my disappointed on not having a sibling for DD. It is hard deciding on whether to go for another child and then when you reach the decision you find it hard to fall pregnant again. It is an emotional minefield but my experience has taught me that not everyone gets what they want and you have to be grateful with with what you have. The grass seems always greener on the other side of the fence and in reality it is not always better.

Yasmina

Thank you for your insight into sharing 2 - a mothers guilt is always the hardest emotion to deal with.

AFM - DD has finally started asking why everyone else has another baby and why cant we have one as well!! Oh my, I was in bits the first time she asked the question. We are treating the question with caution and trying to answer as honestly as possible without making a 'big' thing of it. Christmas is fast approaching and hopefully that will take her mind of it for a while. We are a very happy family of 3 and as I approach the magic 50, I feel we made the right decision for us not to try for another one.

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Caroline P
Me 50 DH 57 - TTC 10 years
IVF July 04, Sept 04, Dec 04 all -ive
Mar 05 +ive - Amelia Leah born 30/11/05
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Post by ButterflyKiss »

Catharine I am so happy for you that you are seeking options and will meet with your RE this week :D I am hoping you have some encouraging news to share and with that, Christmas will still be an enjoyable holiday for you and your family although the cy was a -tive (((hugs)))

Hello and blessings to everyone else. May you each have a blessed Christmas and New Year in advance! :)

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Post by Catharine »

Greetings ladies! :D

How are each of you doing? Sending everyone some seasonal cheer! :D

Thanks again for all the thoughtful words. It is very comforting to have such support from women who know what you are going through.

I wanted to update ya'll. Yesterday DH and I had a consult with RE to discuss this past IVF cycle and what options are available moving forward. In short we've opted to move onto the low tech option of IUI. This is of a little concern based on DH sperm past quality. Interestingly, this past cycle DH had fairly good quality. He had a high count [and volume]. Although the morphology was still on the low side all it takes is one strong swimmer to fertilize. Based on this report, we decided to move to the IUI. DH will bank some samples before the procedure just in case he has some performance issues the day of. Tentative tmt will be January 2010. Fingers crossed. Of course, we will continue with the old fashion method, unassisted very low tech and least expensive method.

Wishing everyone all the best.
Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
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1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Post by ButterflyKiss »

Catharine that's great news! :D You must be excited! I hope and pray should your baby blessing not come au naturale that it shall by IUI! Woot !! :D

Merry Christmas!!!

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Post by children »

Catharine,

My take on this plan is that your RE is skilled in iui since he/she suggested this option to someone who is over 40 - I was not even given such an option based on curving tubes, my RE insisted that my tubes could not support sperms even though the dye went through...

Good luck in 2010!

Yasmina
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IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Post by mrscutter »

Hi everyone,
I just want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I hope all of your dreams come true. little Isabella is doing great. She is such a sweet baby. She is almost 4 months old now. can you believe that? i just turned 42 in nov. I didn't even consider having another, but DH is so in love with isabella that he would love to have another. After reading your post catharine i think we are gonna try. Remember I have a 21 year old and a 15 year old. we would like to have a sibling her age for her to grow up with. the older ones are spoilling her rotten, but i see how much fun my older two had together growing up, i want that for her as well.

Catharine or yasmina or anyone, did your body act weird after the baby was born? It took 3 months for my period to come and when it did, it was normal but now it should have come 2 weeks ago but it didnt. not preggo because i took a prego test. i hope im not in early menopause. Also having night sweats. What is up with this ole body. Insights anyone? Oh and we are not preventing a pregnancy. We will see what happens.

Good luck to all and I hope you get all you desire at this Christms season.

Rhonda
Mrs. Cutter-Me-44 DH35
clomind-6mth follistim-june/july-cancel iui-08
IVF Retrival nov 12th transfer Nov 15th
BFN!!! Nov 26th.
BFP!! Dec 30th Natural pregnancy
Isabella sophia born 9/1/09
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Post by ButterflyKiss »

Rhonda that is great news! :D I wish you and your hubby success as you ttc a sibling for sweet Isabella :D :D I hope you are not going through the change but just a change in hormones.

Hello to all!

Our consult is getting closer and I am getting nervous and excited all over again as we anticipate the start of IVF. Even though finances permit us from doing this earlier I have already narrowed down the costs of drugs by seeking out a good online pharmacy to get the meds we will need and they are way much cheaper than the clinic we will use too ;) Looking forward to this Christmas being our last without our baby blessing(s)! :D

Blessings and love to all and I hope you were all blessed with a lovely Christmas!!

Blessings.
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Post by Catharine »

Happy New Year :D

Here's to everyone's dreams coming true in 2010!

Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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