Winter Cycle Friends 2009/2010 - Everyone Welcome!

[angelaezra]

Hello Ladies,

I hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend. I have been sleeping the entire time … lol. It’s going to be Monday tomorrow and my nerves are starting to set in again. I just pray my HCG levels continue to rise like it’s supposed to from last Wednesday. I keep wondering if I will hear a HB during my u/s on Thursday even though I will only be 6 weeks and 1 day. I know w/ Ashley we heard it at 6 weeks 3 days so I might be shy a few days. But, I think once I hear the HB, I can start to think of the next step like contacting my high risk OB in Cincinnati. During this pregnancy, I think I am going to drive myself crazy because every few minutes I am saying to myself am I still feeling my pregnancy symptoms or have they faded. Since my loss so late during my last pregnancy, I will never relax until he/she is born.

How many weeks and days were you ladies when you saw your baby’s HB, sac, and fetal pole via vaginal u/s?

I love the pictures of everyone, maybe I will figure out how to upload some on my computer.

Angela

[lycase]

Angela, I was 6w3d when I saw my pole and the heartbeat. So I am sure you will see it unless he was a late implantation beany which is what I might think in your situation. Don't worry if you don't see it ok

HElene

[katie99]

Happy Sunday everyone -

Claudia I love,love,love Patriotic Pup!!! Labs are so agreeable arent they? And what a sweet face!

Steph I love your pics! What a good looking couple you two are! my favorite is the one doing push -ups (now go do the dishes heeheeh)
Ah, your poor DH having back problems - you know that cant be easy to go to PT at 0' dark thirty. I used to feel so lazy to still be in bed knowing that they were all at PT while it was still dark out. I know the feeling of having hardly any pics together - same here! terrible isnt it?

Babyluv Bravo to your parents! What a selfless way to spent the weekend! How are you feeling twin mama?

Helene Cant wait to hear the results on the gender predictor test kit. Do they say what % of accuracy they claim?

Angela I saw the gestational sac and a "dot" at 5w4d - then we got to see the HB at 6w3d. But we didnt get to actually hear it until 2 wks ago at the NT scan.

everyone There is a show airing on the WE network on May 1 called "the fertility chase" unfortunately it will be on at 8:30 AM ET - I've been dying to see this since its all about IVF and one of the girls I cycled with in Sept is in it. But why at 8:30 in the morning? seems like more of a PM subject to me.
Oh and by the way this is Natl Infertility Awareness Week from 4/24 to 5/1 - I didnt know until this morning - xoxo

[Stephanieford78]

Katie - Thank you! I look at photos I have somethimes and make little captions to go with it. I have one back when Andrew smoked that is pretty funny. Maybe I will post that... hope no one gets offended though since it has a cuss word in it. lol Yeah, he has had back issues for over 5 years now. They never did anything but x-ray him and told him he was fine. This last tour he came back and they finally ordered an MRI and found that he has buldging disks and osteoarthritis. They gave him a profile and burned 6 nerves in his back so he won't feel the pain. So he has to go to PT but only has to walk. Now, the burning of the nerves doesn't fix the problem of course, it only makes it so he can't feel the pain. However, you may know that pain is a way for your body to relay to you that something is wrong and if those nerves are blocked then your body will find another way to tell you. So he gets pain in other areas of his back and even his stomach. It's degenerative so he is pretty sure this will put him in a wheelchair someday. He is only 25 and has had this issue since he was 20 at least! So young to have such a problem. Anyway... I'm done with that book. Sometimes you just can't shut me up. Oh... about the show... I might have seen it on Discovery Health? Who was your cycle buddy? I will get up and watch it!

Angela - I was 5w5d when we saw a itty bitty sac and a dot inside on an ER abdominal scan. I didn't get to see the heartbeat till another ER visit where I thought I was miscarrying at 6w6d, they only saw one baby with a heartbeat and a sac but no baby. They told me I was likely miscarrying a twin because of the blood. Then again the following day at 7weeks when I had a good u/s and saw two heartbeats though they were measuring 6w3d and 6w5d so a bit behind. I bawled like a baby I was so happy to see those hearts beating! They are right on track for size now though.

Helene - Can't wait to hear the test results! If you are in the normal range for BMI then you are better off than me. lol Gaining 30 pounds put me over the top for my small frame. I carry it well I suppose, thankfully I am proprtioned... well not much anymore with the growing baby bump and my boobs as huge as they are now. lol

Babyluv - That's great of your mom to help out like that. I only wish I knew what that was like. Both your parents sound like great people. Mom getting up and helping the homeless! How kind hearted is that? Lots of energy spite their age it seems. Good for them!

So... this is day two where there is no sign of spotting, not even a teeny bit. I am hoping that it is gone for good! People think 5-7 days is bad, 5 weeks is worse! lol I am confident it won't be pack.

Here is another sticker I made with a pic of my dh when he came back from Iraq the second time. He doesn't smoke anymore so this was taken 3 years ago but I think it is funny and the caption fits! Hope no one is offended by my potty mouth caption. If so, let me know and I will edit and remove it. Have a happy Sunday!

[gi]

Hey girls

Just love all your pics and belly pics - my we have a bunch of good looking women around here may have to root out a decent one of meself when i finally get courage to put on up!!!

Steph your pics are so funny,love your captions dont remove it,it brought a smile to my face

Angela best of luck tomorrow i will have everything crossed for you, i know what you mean about not relaxing till you have your baby in your arms dont think i will either but its great we can let all our emotions and fears spill out here. I had a later scan so didnt see hb till 7 wks.

Only on for a quick visit i did do loads of personnels this morning but its gone!!! hate when that happens

gi xx

[claud662]

Hi Ladies! LOVE all the pics and look at all the blonde beauties!!

Katie-when your progesterone number dropped what did the RE do? I just found out that my number dropped from over 40 to 26 when stopping the shots and then to 13 when stopping the crinone. They just added another prometrium pill but my spotting which was away for 9 days came back and I'm freaked out!

Lou-SICK body! I have a thin frame but you have the nice skinny curves and boobs which makes me jealous!! Hehe:)

Stephanie-i love your captions! Very funny! I'm so sorry to hear about DH's back-that sucks

Babyluv-Yah for great parents to help out with the kids! Fam support is the best!

Helene-cant wait to hear the results of the gender test!

Afm-had a long weekend of working and about to go out to dinner with dh and grandma for my upcoming 30th birthday! Hope I'm not too stressed about my progesterone drop! I hate how I can never relax and enjoy the pregnancy:( xoxo

[angelaezra]

Hi Ladies! LOVE all the pics and look at all the blonde beauties!!

Katie-when your progesterone number dropped what did the RE do? I just found out that my number dropped from over 40 to 26 when stopping the shots and then to 13 when stopping the crinone. They just added another prometrium pill but my spotting which was away for 9 days came back and I'm freaked out!

Lou-SICK body! I have a thin frame but you have the nice skinny curves and boobs which makes me jealous!! Hehe:)

Stephanie-i love your captions! Very funny! I'm so sorry to hear about DH's back-that sucks

Babyluv-Yah for great parents to help out with the kids! Fam support is the best!

Helene-cant wait to hear the results of the gender test!

Afm-had a long weekend of working and about to go out to dinner with dh and grandma for my upcoming 30th birthday! Hope I'm not too stressed about my progesterone drop! I hate how I can never relax and enjoy the pregnancy:( xoxo

Claudia – when are they going to re-test your progesterone level again?

[babyluv]

Angela - I saw my twins at 6w5d - early for me because I was spotting. Baby A was closer, measuring right on target and they could easily get the hb. Baby B was 6w1d, further back, so the picture is a little more grainy. RE almost couldn't get the hb because of the location, but did and everything looked fine. Before he started the u/s, he was warning me it was early to see anything. I think at 6w you should see a sac, but not sure what else. Don't be discouraged if that's all they find. Praying for your beta tomorrow!

Katie - I am still feeling great, which OF COURSE, freaks me out some! I feel like I get more tired everyday, and I did feel a little sick today after waking up from a nap, but other than acting like a nutcase the last couple of days, I'm good . Just waiting for my next u/s in two weeks!

AFM - I was so proud of myself for not having crazy hormones...and then Thursday came. WOW! I ended up crying for about 45 min over basically NOTHING and I just couldn't stop! So, I guess something is happening!

[TammyS]

Hi girls!!! I am loving all the pictures! So awesome to put a face to your name. You are all such beautiful women! Keep the pics coming, I love them!

Forgive my being MIA lately...I am reading...it is just really hard to type...cause I left my laptop open and my son ripped a bunch of keys off. lol Ugh. It's sooo hard to type. I'm going to order a new keyboard off of ebay...if I can figure out which one I need for sure. Hopefully, DH can figure out how to install it.

Angela...Good luck today my 2ww/beta twin! I am hoping for big numbers for us both. My ultrasound is Friday...I am worried that it might be too early to see a hb...she warned me that it might be, but granted my wish to do it then. We just both need to keep that in mind, just in case....so we dont worry needlessly.

Ronda...how are you doing with the Fifths disease? How awful to have to deal with that right now.

Babyluv...glad to hear that all is well...except for the crazy hormones. I am right there with you. lol Your parents sound sooo awesome!

Claudia...such a rollercoaster for you...geesh! You deserve a break already. I'm glad that they check progesterone levels at your clinic...as I hear that most clinics dont. When will they test you again? Hugs and prayers to you. Happy early birthday! When is it? The big 30! I spent my 40th being pregnant and in bed with an ear infection...on vacation! It was awful, ended up going home early...to get treated. Hope you have a great one!

Helene...cant wait to hear the gender test results. It has me intriqued for sure. lol

Stephanie...so sorry to hear about your DH's back. I have degenerative disk and had back surgery 8 weeks before getting pregnant with Zach...and am virtually pain-free now. Has he considered doing the surgery? Best decision ever for me. Yayyy for no more spotting!

Lou...Holy Cow! Your trainer must be very proud. I hope to lose alot after this baby and get a boob reduction/lift and tummy tuck, too. Gonna start doing 5k's with some friends of mine after baby, too. I recently tried C25k, but had to stop for now. Soo funny that Lou is your cat. lol

Katie...remind us again about the show coming up, closer to the time. lol It sounds good. I tried to DVR it, but it is not on my guide list. It says paid program
(shopping). Could it be a different time for Ohio?

Hope...sorry your co-worker is such an idiot. My sister in law wants to have another baby sooo bad...but my brother and her have been done for years...yet people keep coming up to her to ask if she is pregnant due to her belly that never went away. Poor thing. I am hopeful though that my brother is coming around and they will be pregnant again soon. Their kids will be 9-20 yrs apart...but their baby will grow up with mine....so it's all good. lol

Sara...hope you are feeling better now. Good luck at your next doc appt. I dont love my OB, but they are the very best in maternal fetal medicine (high risk) for the state of Ohio. I am very lucky to have them sooo close to home. People travel quite far to see them. They are just sooo business like with no personality...but I know I am in good hands and that is all that matters.

Gi...We tell everyone about IVF. Maybe somehow we can help someone else pursue their dreams by giving advice, lending a shoulder, sharing leftover meds, etc. After we did IVF the first time...a few of the girls on my local mommy's group (wasnt a mommy's group at first, but is now) got up the courage to see an RE for help...and then ended up going through IVF and having a baby. It's nice to know that we arent alone and that there is nothing to be ashamed of...it is no different than needing help for diabetes...if you know what I mean. That being said, I completely understand feeling that it is a very private issue, too. It took me some time to get over that the fact that we needed some help.

For those I missed...sorry, but Zach's up already (way too early)...and I still need to post the pics that I just shrunk down to post. Hugs and prayers to all.

I couldnt decide which pics to post....so their is alot. I take sooo many these days. lol

Oh and c&p from the IVF (getting pregnant) side....

AFM...It's been a rough week here. Zach had surgery Tuesday as some of you know. I came down with strep throat on Tues/Wed and DH came down with it on Thursday. Took Zach to the pediatrician for a Sat morning appt...just had a feeling...and his ear and throat were red...so she decided to treat him with antibiotics, too. So we were all quarantined this week...and we missed our friends wedding. My husband introduced the bride/groom.

We started house hunting again...and are going to see a few houses tomorrow...even though I really think that we are going to wait till next Feb/Mar to move. I just happened to see a few new houses on the list that my real estate agent sends me by email every week...and now I want to see them...cause I'd hate to miss out on "the house". Ya know? lol

We're going on vacation next Sunday...just booked it today. We cant pass up this deal. From Ohio to Myrtle Beach they are offering $9.99 each way on select dates in May/June. It's a new service for them and a huge promotional gimmick. So for the 3 of us (Zach on our laps)...our total roundtrip including taxes for nonstop flights for all of us was $73.76!!! No kidding! I am now going to cancel and reschedule my first OB appt. maybe for this Friday instead. I will let you the new date...I just need to call them here in a bit. I am a little bit worried about going away, being so newly pregnant and all. However, I did just do this 2 yrs ago...and what is the difference if I'm sitting around home or laying on the beach? lol Besides my brothers family is going too...and they even pulled their kids out of school for it (I dont believe in that, but I'm not the parents). They figure they will never have another chance with 4 kids to take them on a plane...so it's now or never. My 14 yr old niece and sister in law...will be very helpful with Zach...and my DH is the type to do it all anyhow. Lucky me. I'm not lifting or carrying right now either for the most part.

So even though I am almost 42 and considered high risk...I should be okay...right?! The flight is only 1 hr and 40 minutes long...so I'll get up and stretch my legs, too. I have another beta today...and will find out on Friday...how many I have in there. I really feel that there is only 1...and think I will be scared to death to travel...if there is more than 1. Any tips that I havent thought of yet?

I'm sorry they are sooo big. I must not have shrunk them enough.

Easter and 18 month pics.


Christmas Pics 2009.




Fall 2009Family/1yr old pic.


Recent random photos.

[lycase]

Katie - thanks Katie I hope you are doing good today girl. Would it be possible to update the list for me for the baby's gender I would appreciate that and if it change at the 20w scan will let you know thanks. (the gender is in my AFM info)

Stephanie - well I think I got on the overweight side today cause we went to McDonald and had 3 meals all weekend. It always happends I am not proportionned. I have a big pregnant belly all the time. I hide it with my floppy shirts I was looking at it this weekend to take a bump picture but decided not too. I am way to huge already

but the way I love the picture with the smoke... how hillarious... he is so young and cool on that picture. I am so glad he is now back from there... was he injured at all?

Claud - so you say your progesterone dropped... So what did they say do you have to take a higher dosage? I think you only have 3 more weeks to do that right? I hope it gets higher and everything settles now. Hugs. You know we are at the exact same stage. you did your transfer on 3.10.10 so did I and so our pg are the exact time. Is your due date Nov 28 also?

babyluv - so you broke down dear I am so sorry. I did the other day too I guess it must be the hormones too... hang in there girl you are doing so good. You know you are at the eact same time as Claud and Me... I remember us doing our transfers at the eact same time I am so happy we all got our BFP and are here together...

Tammy - I am so sorry about your laptop. Mine the first day we got it the kids spilled juice on it but I had got the extended warranty so they fixed it for free lucky me. Not sure if they could have fixed a break the way yours is. Glad your dh is handy.

I hope you see the hb on Friday. Mine is on Thrusday. It will be my second U/S.

Tammy the pictures of Zach are so amazing... wow he is such a sweetheart. He seams to look more like dad am I right? Beautiful family protraits too.

AFM - Yes I finally got the Urobiologics Report and this is what they say:

Ms. Helene,

We just completed testing of your urine sample and the fetus appears to be a female. According to our experience so far, we are pretty confident that this result will hold good, without expressing or implying any warranty.

They say the results are 91% accurate but on the website they say 95% so they just try and protect themselves I think. But it's ok. We will be doing other fun test like the wedding ring and needle on a string which we already did and got a "Girl" answer and tonight I will try and do the Red Cabbage one with the kids for fun And next week i can do the "Tellmepinkorblue" blood one so with all of them togehther if they are all the same results it should be pretty good assurance.

Can't tell you how exited I am after my dh and I only have one girl together amongst 4 other boys. Not counting the teens of course witch are boy and girl. So my little girl will be so happy and exited. My dh today said so now this is going to be it right. You have your girl and the family is going to be completed... My goal was to have siblings but with our latest addition and all he requires that might have to be it. I am just so worried she is going to feel out of place if you know what I mean. Alone adopted as embryos... so for sure after a while I will see how things go... who knows. I really dout I would be able to convince him though?? What do you girls think? I still have 6 other embryos which are true siblings of my little one. They should be kept together right? Like I mean since they won't know who created them?? They at least need to know their siblings... Of course maybe nothing would come out of those 6 it could also be BNF so that way I could tell her that we tried but she was the only one... that would be better no??

But Valerie will be so exited. She was such a good sister/friend to a stranger little girl yesterday at McDonald. She was helping her climb and held her hand she was so good the little girl must have been like 15 months or so. I hope the gap between them is not going to be too much. She will be turning 6 in May. Of course I have been trying to give her a baby sister for the last 6 years, with mc, failled IVf and DS pregnancy and now Embryo Adoption. One friend of mine said this baby better be a girl cause the gap will be too much... She said her and her sister were 8 years difference and it was too much. They could not do anything together until they were adults. So the difference will be like 5 1/2 years?? Does any of you know a children with that gap playing together?? My Nick is 8 and Vance is 4 and they don't really play well together but maybe girls is different??

Anyways I guess my little baby will be happy to have a sister who will show him how to walk and talk and be potty trainned cause DS little people take double the time to do those things... Should be fun...

I hope everyone is having a good day. My ultrasound is Thrusday, I can't wait to make sure she is still alive and at the right stage...

Now I got to think of a name... while wanting to change my screen name I though of putting backwards which would give "Lycase" now how would that be pronounced? In french it's obvious but in English doesn't make too much sense right? I would like to find a special name that noone else would have like at school or daycare. If you know of a place I can take a look please let me know.

Hope everyone is having a good day.

Helene

[DrBoots]

Hi Ladeis,

Just wanted to let you know that I started bleeding yesterday. The nurse from the RE's office told me to stay in bed ALL day and moved my appt up this AM. We went in for the sono and saw the sac is still there and it finally has a yolk, but no fetal pole and hasn't grown much since last week. TheSCH (bleeding) is on top of the sac and the sac has detached most of itself from the uterine wall. The Dr said it's only 1/3-1/4 still attched and doesn't look good. I will keep you updated.

[lycase]

Hi Ladeis,

Just wanted to let you know that I started bleeding yesterday. The nurse from the RE's office told me to stay in bed ALL day and moved my appt up this AM. We went in for the sono and saw the sac is still there and it finally has a yolk, but no fetal pole and hasn't grown much since last week. TheSCH (bleeding) is on top of the sac and the sac has detached most of itself from the uterine wall. The Dr said it's only 1/3-1/4 still attched and doesn't look good. I will keep you updated.

Oh NO WAY!!! You know what. I read a story online about the same thing... And the baby continued to grow even with only a small attachment... it was born early but still she didn't mc... when will you know more dear. When are you going back? I will say extra prayers for you today dear... you are in my thoughts. Hugs...

helene

[claud662]

Ryan-I'm so sorry hon for this scare. how are they proceeding? when do you go back for another scan? I truly hope for the best outcome and I will say a prayer for you and your baby bean today.

Helene-congrats (95% congrats) on the gender test saying a girl! I know you wanted a baby girl so I'm happy for you!! I remember a little while back you saying that you might carry for a friend since she wasn't able to get pregnant. Is that still an option?

Tammy-how adorable is Zach?!?! he is a little clone of your DH!!! I love seeing all of the pics!! it is too much fun The big 30 is this Friday and we are having an 80's party at our house on Saturday for friends and family!! I have to find an outfit to cover my small baby bump and have a fake drink in my hands since none of my friends know yet!!!

Angela-I go back in Thursday (which I had already scheduled) for my last SnS! My RE emailed me back last night after a panicked email saying that my levels were still in good range even though they dropped and they added another prometrium pill just to be overly cautious. She offered for me to come in this morning for a scan but I figured if she wasn't nervous than I was going to stay calm. I also talked to a friend who is 25 weeks from IVF and she said the SAME thing happened to her and her obgyn said not to worry. SO I'M NOT FOR A CHANGE!!

Katie-my guide also doesn't show that show on WE. I will check that morning but I also remember the woman from September board saying she was on it! what was her name again?!?!

AFM...Trying to stay calm and take each day as it comes!! I go back in a few days and will post pics of Flick then!!! I will also update my belly pic on Wednesday since that seems to be the day I take my pics!!

xoxo

[lycase]

Helene-congrats (95% congrats) on the gender test saying a girl! I know you wanted a baby girl so I'm happy for you!! I remember a little while back you saying that you might carry for a friend since she wasn't able to get pregnant. Is that still an option?

Definitly is yes. I am just trying to think of her... how would she feel if her siblings were with my friend? Do you think she would be sad or feel lonely?

Helene

[katie99]

Hi everyone -

I spent most of yesterday late afternoon into nightime really crampy, but no spotting. This is making me nervous, some were pretty sharp too. I go for more b/w tomorrow AM, and please God let my progesterone levels have gone up. I seem to get the results on Wed AM since this b/w every 2 weeks has gone on since 6 weeks - I have their routine down by now. Anyone else still get crampy so far along? I dont mean the occasional twinge or two, I mean full on crampy for hours

Steph - oh how awful for Andrew! Did he have a back injury at a young age? Is is genetic? I cant thik of anything else that would present as Osteoarthritis at such a young age. Poor guy, how difficult to be in the service with recurrant back pain. He must be a very strong man. This show is suppossed to premier on may 1, and one the segments will feature an RE in Fla that is refusing to destry embies, so the topic of his episode will be embryo donation. I went to his website and thats where I got the airing dates from - http://www.dreamababy.com AND clicked on embie donation while I was there and I couldnt believe how much info other recipients get!!! OMG I got no info at all. And i thought of what you had said the other day, so now I get what you meant about DE info! It must go by state laws, I cant believe that my over protective RE would willingly withhold info from us. But WOW they even listed SAT scores! I'm thinking if we do decide to try this again that this sounds like the RE - plus a week in Fla is never a bad idea either, right?
- Oh, PS - The girl I cycled with her screen name is sancap and she is due in June! She is a wonderful girl!

Gi Ooooh, yes please find some pics

Claudia When will they test your P4 again? I dont see why they would wean you totally off so early when your diagnosis is low progesterone to begin with?
To answer your question, my RE didnt change anything when my P4 dropped to 20 after taking me off the PIO shots - he left me on Crinone 2x day. I go for b/w tom AM so I 'll know by Wed AM where I 'm at now. According to Ghost 6.5 is the the scary number - BUT he also says that since PIO goes systemic that your serum blood levels will be falsely lower when just on crinone since crinone goes directly to the uterus. My RE has been measuring my P4 every 2 weeks since I was 6 weeks, since my numbers never make him happy. So just because your P4 says 13 - its actually higher than that. BIG BIG HUG! her name is Sancap and she is due in June. I remember well b/c we had the same ET and beta day. If you remember her do you remember Kala too? She says the show contacted her and she will be on an episode also. She cycled in her DH's country of Serbia and was so sweet.

weeks 6 to 10 - no difference 25 once and 26 once
10w3d - finally measured >80 - stopped PIO and continue crinone 2x day
12w3d - P4 dropped to 20 - still on crinone 2x day
14w3d - I'll let you know on Wed AM


Babyluv So far I've only had 1 episode of "raging pg hormones" I yelled at DH then burst into tears, and the worst part was the whole time I was yelling at him - I knew I was wrong - but couldnt seem to stop myself. sigh - I did apologize later and he laughed at me! They need to remember that we arent in charge of our bodies anymore!

Tammy AAARRRGGHHH!!!! The same thing happened to my DVR! It says "paid programming" also! I got the airing date from the RE's website that will be featured on May 15 suppossedly. http://www.dreamababy.com. Now bear in mind that I've gone to WE tv's website too and it says nothing! I even tried putting "The Fertility Chase" into their search box and it came back as "0 results found" It wouldnt be the first time this show has changed dates - it originally was going to air in Jan, then was pushed to March, now to May. I figured since the date and time is on the Dr's website that this will be it - but I've set my DVR to tape whatevwer plays on 5/1 from 8:30 -9:00 am anyway - it also wouldnt be the first time the my local cable tv guide was wrong too - ugh I just want to see this show, why does everything have to be so complicated? I'll keep checking all week and keep you updated. OMG!!!! Zach is tooo cute for words!!! You have a beautiful family! And WHHOOO HOOO for a super bargain on plane tix!!!! - Enjoy your vaca!!!

Helene Congrats!!! Its a girl!!! I'll update the list as soon as i finish this. 90% accuracy is pretty high!

Ryan Oh, honey no. That is so scary! You stay on bed rest and try not to stress too much. Do you have an appt this AM? I'll keep you in my thoughts & prayers for good news later. BIG BIG HUG to you!!!